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Re: John White Sentence
Posted by krissy888
he deserves a lot more than 2-4 years! He shot a KID in the face for goodness sake. It seems from the news reports, his son is the one who started this whole thing. I personally think the wife is the one who started pulling the race card by using the term "lynch mob" hoping it would get her husband off. This is a terrible thing that happened and I can't believe this POS only got 2 years. if it were my son who was shot, I would have a hard time NOT retaliating. Obviously the law did absolutely nothing for this poor family who lost thier son in a horrible way. THis guy should be scared for his life and if something happens to him, oh well. He murdered a kid.
this is one of the most irresponsible and disgusting things I have EVER read on here...or even encountered in my life. I am actually shocked and floored. and that is NOT easy to do.  
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Re: John White Sentence
1.Al Sharpton gets involved because it's his job. He is an advocate for African Americans. I don't understand why people don't get that.
2. Aaron White didn't "start" this. The kids with whom he made "friends" after moving to LI did. They made a fake Myspace profile of him and used it to threaten raping a girl. Even after it was squashed, when they were all at the same party the girl started crying and saying she wanted Aaron to leave. He did. The rest of the mob got wasted and decided that Aaron need to be taught a lesson. Ummmm...you know what happened next.
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Re: John White Sentence
I agree. Repulsive.
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Re: John White Sentence
Posted by Snickers
1.Al Sharpton gets involved because it's his job. He is an advocate for African Americans. I don't understand why people don't get that.
Al Sharpton is probably the LAST person on EARTH I'd want in my corner...he has never done any more good than harm. He is a joke. a rabel rouser...not taken seriously b/c he is too quick to jump on a bandwagon.
just look at how Obama has steered clear of him.
Forget even Tawana Brawley...where was he when those two cops were MURDERED on STaten Island...he didn't say BOO b/c the perps was black even though the cop was too!
so I can understand why most people hate him. he ***** at his "job"
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| Posted 3/20/08 10:54 PM |
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Re: John White Sentence
Posted by Beth1210
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Would you want to be the parent of a murdered child b/c some grown man was trying to protect his child from your unarmed child?
Kiids do get in very mean, nasty fights and an adult should KNOW better about the RIGHT thing to do (call the cops and let them handle it).
I sure hope none of "our" children get into any mean, nasty fights ...if you think another adult has the right to try to bully or threaten them with a gun to "teach them a lesson".
ITA! seriously- I am shocked by some of the responses
2 to 4 years for killing an unarmed boy- if this was the NYPD shooting an unarmed 17 year old- there would be riots
2 to 4 is really 18 months to 3 years with good behavior - and some people get more then that for assault- with one dying
justice was NOT served at all here- shocking for suffolk
I agree with you Beth....
I cannot believe that people think it's a fair sentence...
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| Posted 3/20/08 10:55 PM |
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Re: John White Sentence
Posted by Stefanie
ITA! seriously- I am shocked by some of the responses
2 to 4 years for killing an unarmed boy- if this was the NYPD shooting an unarmed 17 year old- there would be riots
2 to 4 is really 18 months to 3 years with good behavior - and some people get more then that for assault- with one dying
justice was NOT served at all here- shocking for suffolk
I agree with you Beth....
I cannot believe that people think it's a fair sentence...
I think it's "fair" b.c I understand the law. it's plain and simple.
ETA: what would happen if it was the NYPD or anyone else CANNOT enter my mind.
it would be a HUGE injustice for me to think like that as well.
I think what is happening with the Sean Bell case is DISGUSTING.
but John White shouldn't pay for that also.
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Re: John White Sentence
I don't see how 2-4 years is enough. Maybe if they were in his house and running up the stairs to hurt his son I would be okay with it. But they were outside. I understand they were on his property - yes yelling, being obnoxious and what have you. But more could have been done, the cops could have been called. I don't know, this whole story just doesn't sit right with me.
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Re: John White Sentence
right... so we should just perpetuate the violence.
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| Posted 3/20/08 11:05 PM |
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Re: John White Sentence
Posted by Ophelia
Posted by Snickers
1.Al Sharpton gets involved because it's his job. He is an advocate for African Americans. I don't understand why people don't get that.
Al Sharpton is probably the LAST person on EARTH I'd want in my corner...he has never done any more good than harm. He is a joke. a rabel rouser...not taken seriously b/c he is too quick to jump on a bandwagon.
just look at how Obama has steered clear of him.
Forget even Tawana Brawley...where was he when those two cops were MURDERED on STaten Island...he didn't say BOO b/c the perps was black even though the cop was too!
so I can understand why most people hate him. he ***** at his "job"
I can call Al Sharpton a lot of things, but a joke is not one of them. If I were a black man in trouble for shooting a white kid, I would most certainly want AL Sharpton on my side. He provides a voice for a lot of people who can not speak--for whatever their reasons may be.
He didn't say BOO about the cops on Staten Island because it wasn't his job to. He doesn't advocate for the drug dealing cold blooded killers. I am sure he made some sort of statement about the murdered officer, but who wants to hear that? People are only interested in his "controversial" advocacies. And yes, Tawana tricked him....Twenty years ago.
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Ophelia
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Re: John White Sentence
Posted by Snickers
I can call Al Sharpton a lot of things, but a joke is not one of them. If I were a black man in trouble for shooting a white kid, I would most certainly want AL Sharpton on my side. He provides a voice for a lot of people who can not speak--for whatever their reasons may be.
He didn't say BOO about the cops on Staten Island because it wasn't his job to. He doesn't advocate for the drug dealing cold blooded killers. I am sure he made some sort of statement about the murdered officer, but who wants to hear that? People are only interested in his "controversial" advocacies. And yes, Tawana tricked him....Twenty years ago.
his voice is far louder than his cause. I am not a fan. I will NEVER be a fan. not when EVERY single police shooting is "unjustified" or EVERY single interaction between a black person and a white person is racial.
he has lined his pockets with the drama heartbreak and sadness of MANY people. he is living off the fat of the LAMBS that flock to him.
I understand WHY they do, but it's NIS interests, not the BEST interests that he is after. 
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Re: John White Sentence
Posted by Ophelia
Posted by Snickers
I can call Al Sharpton a lot of things, but a joke is not one of them. If I were a black man in trouble for shooting a white kid, I would most certainly want AL Sharpton on my side. He provides a voice for a lot of people who can not speak--for whatever their reasons may be.
He didn't say BOO about the cops on Staten Island because it wasn't his job to. He doesn't advocate for the drug dealing cold blooded killers. I am sure he made some sort of statement about the murdered officer, but who wants to hear that? People are only interested in his "controversial" advocacies. And yes, Tawana tricked him....Twenty years ago.
his voice is far louder than his cause. I am not a fan. I will NEVER be a fan. not when EVERY single police shooting is "unjustified" or EVERY single interaction between a black person and a white person is racial.
he has lined his pockets with the drama heartbreak and sadness of MANY people. he is living off the fat of the LAMBS that flock to him.
I understand WHY they do, but it's NIS interests, not the BEST interests that he is after.
I am not necessarily a fan myself, but I do understand why he is an important figure to a lot of people. And I also know that he does a lot more than cause trouble and heartbreak. He tries to educate the African American community on issues like gentrification, pay-day loans, subprime lending etc. He has a show on Sundays ( I can't remember which channel) that I used to TiVo. He's also an alumnus of Brooklyn College, which gives me a little soft spot for him.
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Re: John White Sentence
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I think it's "fair" b.c I understand the law. it's plain and simple.
this is almost funny- if you killed my cat and got 2 to 4 years I wouldn't think that was enough
I understand the law also- and killing an unarmed kid with an unlic fire arm normally equals alot more jail time in suffolk then 2 to 4
there is nothing fair about this- he killed someone child and is sleeping in his own bed tonight-
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Re: John White Sentence
Posted by Ophelia
Posted by Snickers
1.Al Sharpton gets involved because it's his job. He is an advocate for African Americans. I don't understand why people don't get that.
Al Sharpton is probably the LAST person on EARTH I'd want in my corner...he has never done any more good than harm. He is a joke. a rabel rouser...not taken seriously b/c he is too quick to jump on a bandwagon.
just look at how Obama has steered clear of him.
Forget even Tawana Brawley...where was he when those two cops were MURDERED on STaten Island...he didn't say BOO b/c the perps was black even though the cop was too!
so I can understand why most people hate him. he ***** at his "job"
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Re: John White Sentence
Posted by Beth1210
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I think it's "fair" b.c I understand the law. it's plain and simple.
this is almost funny- if you killed my cat and got 2 to 4 years I wouldn't think that was enough
I understand the law also- and killing an unarmed kid with an unlic fire arm normally equals alot more jail time in suffolk then 2 to 4
there is nothing fair about this- he killed someone child and is sleeping in his own bed tonight-
Beth, ITA
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Re: John White Sentence
Posted by Ophelia
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so who are people saying pulled the race card? if this testimony is true, it appears that had Cicciaro not be killed, he would have been charged with a hate crime had they called the police.
black person + white mob= too much terrible history to not take it seriously.
To much history Black/White. Where do we live in the deep south waving confederate flages? when's the last time you heard of a bunch of white KIDS threatening a black family in their home? This is Long Island not Alabama. And what's with the lynch mob thing? Its 2008 not 1908. Who the hell is lynching people.
And to the people who claim i dont know what i'd do if a bunch of KIDs were outside my house threatening my family. Its easy you stay inside and call the cops. You don't bring out an illegal loaded handgun and start waving it around. Kids coming to your house threatening to beat up your kid is more common then you think. Thank God the majority of people do the right thing, and dont go bringing a gun into it.
um, are you kidding me? there was just a thread the other day about people seeing more and more confederate flags on LI.
and have you ever heard of Yusef Hawkins...how about the work of Joey Fama?
this whole thread is ridiculous. this is not about quid pro quo. this is not about any kind of "he should get this b/c someone else would have gotten that"
EVERY SINGLE case should be taken for its INDIVIDUAL merits..NOT compared to any other crime when it comes to guilt.
NO ONE KNOWS how much time a white man would have gotten, so why don't we just stop all the arm chair judging.
The MAN was CHARGED with manslaughter. The DA didn't feel he was more culpable than that.and he was convicted of the crimes he was charged with..
what more do you want? will 2 more years for this man to serve really make you feel better??? and if so, why? b/c you feel things should be "equal" at face value? b/c it wouldn't really be equal. at all.
ETA: Al Sharpton is an a$$$$$$$hole. he is an opportunist and a paraiah. but don't let his involvment in this case sway you....it is still TRAGIC. and we all know the "good" Rev. only gets involved when there is a perceived benefit to him.
NO ONE has won in this case.
Yusef Hawkins that was like 20 yrs ago. and in my 30 yrs and cant remember once seeing a confederate flag. Again, this is Long Island not Deliverance.
I just read the article in the archives of the Yusef Hawkins case. and it was by a group of wanna be gangsters who ambushed Yusef. They didnt bust into his home and kill him. He didnt have time to call the police first
This case sets a precedent. And in this case the time doesnt reflect the crime. Like some people just mentioned, people get alot more time for less serious crap. A BOY was killed by an adult who should have known better.
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Re: John White Sentence
Posted by Beth1210
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I think it's "fair" b.c I understand the law. it's plain and simple.
this is almost funny- if you killed my cat and got 2 to 4 years I wouldn't think that was enough
I understand the law also- and killing an unarmed kid with an unlic fire arm normally equals alot more jail time in suffolk then 2 to 4
there is nothing fair about this- he killed someone child and is sleeping in his own bed tonight-
there is nothing funny about this Beth.
and to make such a ridiculous "comparison" is...well I just don't know what to call it.
People are acting like this man pulled out his gun and shot him point blank.
the kid jumped IN FRONT of a GUN...so brazen that he had NO FEAR of what *could* happen to him...and the ABSOLUTE WORST did.
do I think Mr. White should be home sleeping now? NO. he should do the time he was sentenced with.
you can sit there and sweep all the MITIGATING circumstances under the rug if you want. but the judge didn't.
whether or not John White spends 5 minutes or 5 years in jail...it makes no difference to any of you...HE has to live with his action for the rest of his life. the Cicciaro's have to live with the decision of their son for the rest of their lives. and someone is dead. it's terrible.
and Tommy2, as for precedent, think for a minute about the precedent set when those other boys were not charged with a HATE crime and trespassing for using the N word and angrily entering someone else's property. Suffolk County PD didn't address that...perhaps that was the Whites' fear the whole time...that it wouldn't be addressed, and they were proven right.
I just feel that more time or even less time wouldn't really change anything for any of these people.
I pray for all of them. 
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Re: John White Sentence
Kids coming to your house threatening to beat up your kid is more common then you think.
Must be a LI or suburban thing then...I've been living on the 'mean' streets of Brooklyn all my life...and I'll tell you what, we're much smarter than to go to someone's house and threaten them. And if we WERE dumb enough to do that, you'd better know who you're messing with.
I'm not saying that kid should've or had to die, but he made the biggest mistake when him and his drunken buddies got their 'beer muscles' on and decided it would be a good idea to go threaten someone.
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Re: John White Sentence
The bottom line is HE SHOT an unarmed person. I don't care if he is black, white, green or purple, he broke the law. He could have very well locked his house down called 911 and let the police do their job and none of us would be having this debate.
What about the people that started the whole rape rumor, that led to the events? I think they should be charged in some way. Look what their stupidity got them
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Re: John White Sentence
John White is a murderer. He had several choices all which could have prevented this horible tragedy. He could have called the police in the 25 minutes leading up to the kids even getting there, he could have stayed inside safely behind closed doors.
INSTEAD he chose to go to the end of his driveway with a loaded illegal handgun. Black, white, or purple the facts don't lie.
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Ophelia
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Re: John White Sentence
Posted by lullabella
John White is a murderer. He had several choices all which could have prevented this horible tragedy. He could have called the police in the 25 minutes leading up to the kids even getting there, he could have stayed inside safely behind closed doors.
INSTEAD he chose to go to the end of his driveway with a loaded illegal handgun. Black, white, or purple the facts don't lie.
and this is why he was charged with, and convicted of a crime.
manslaughter in the second degree. an appropriate charge and an appropriate conviction.
end of story.
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Re: John White Sentence
Posted by lullabella
John White is a murderer. He had several choices all which could have prevented this horible tragedy. He could have called the police in the 25 minutes leading up to the kids even getting there, he could have stayed inside safely behind closed doors.
INSTEAD he chose to go to the end of his driveway with a loaded illegal handgun. Black, white, or purple the facts don't lie.
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Re: John White Sentence
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Kids coming to your house threatening to beat up your kid is more common then you think.
Must be a LI or suburban thing then...I've been living on the 'mean' streets of Brooklyn all my life...and I'll tell you what, we're much smarter than to go to someone's house and threaten them. And if we WERE dumb enough to do that, you'd better know who you're messing with.
I'm not saying that kid should've or had to die, but he made the biggest mistake when him and his drunken buddies got their 'beer muscles' on and decided it would be a good idea to go threaten someone.
Let's hope none of "our" kids get beer muscles one day b/c then it would be ok if a grown man shot them when he could just lock the doors and call the cops instead???
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Re: John White Sentence
Posted by tommy2
To much history Black/White. Where do we live in the deep south waving confederate flages? when's the last time you heard of a bunch of white KIDS threatening a black family in their home? This is Long Island not Alabama. And what's with the lynch mob thing? Its 2008 not 1908. Who the hell is lynching people.
Do you really think that racial crimes and the KKK are only found in Alabama and not here? From what you wrote, I think you would be surprised to learn about the recent and not-so-recent history of hate organizations and crimes right here on our very own Long Island. I don't think we can ignore this history and how it may have been a factor in this very tragic case.
Burning Cross Left at Home of Interracial Couple on L.I.
Anyone remember the proposed KKK rally at Smithhaven Mall in 1997?
KKK on Long Island
Nazi organization in Yaphank
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Re: John White Sentence
Posted by Ophelia
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John White is a murderer. He had several choices all which could have prevented this horible tragedy. He could have called the police in the 25 minutes leading up to the kids even getting there, he could have stayed inside safely behind closed doors.
INSTEAD he chose to go to the end of his driveway with a loaded illegal handgun. Black, white, or purple the facts don't lie.
and this is why he was charged with, and convicted of a crime.
manslaughter in the second degree. an appropriate charge and an appropriate conviction.
end of story.
Agreed but an inappropriate sentence IMO. That however is out of the jury's hands.
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Re: John White Sentence
and Tommy2, as for precedent, think for a minute about the precedent set when those other boys were not charged with a HATE crime and trespassing for using the N word and angrily entering someone else's property. Suffolk County PD didn't address that...perhaps that was the Whites' fear the whole time...that it wouldn't be addressed, and they were proven right.
I just feel that more time or even less time wouldn't really change anything for any of these people.
I pray for all of them.
So White's sentenced should be reduced because the N word was used? Damn imagine the police used your logic. They are faced w/ REAL bad guys who want to hurt them. And are bombarded w/ racial slurs. Ive been slapped, punched, and kicked by people all while being called a white devil cracka
Do you think they get charged w/ a hate crime or just the crime they committed? If you picked the latter then u are correct.
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