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Re: I heard there is going to be protestors today
Posted by DaniRella
Posted by vegalady
First of all I think that is a very disrespectful of you to imply. He is a leader within the black community and there is nothing wrong with him wanting to promote change in our society. Why is it that you think he is not contributing to society? Is it just because he doesnt have a "real" job. There are plenty of people out here that dont do a 9-5pm and rather work toward helping people or promoting change. So is that not a "real" job? Please help me to understand because your comment doesnt make much sense.
see, the problem i have with him is that if he is a "leader" and wanting to bring about good things in a society then when he ridiculed, for example, the young men at duke university (BEFORE their trial took place) and stated that they had done what they were later acquitted of when the accuser stated what she had accused them of never actually happened - at that point, he should have come out and apologized for basically hanging these men before anything even went to trial - just on believing the accuser's story and not knowing the facts. that was unfair to those men and drastically changed their lives - and NOT for the good. he should have, as a "leader" who is responsible for his actions came out and basically said "you know what? i was wrong - i am sorry" and he NEVER did.
So what people say the wrong things all the time we are all human beings. I am sure he was sorry for pointing a finger so quickly. The President of this country ALWAYS says the wrong things and never takes responsibility for ANY of his actions. My point is is that he is a leader in the black community and there needs to be someone to help and motivate minorities to stand up for their rights as a human being in this society.
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Re: I heard there is going to be protestors today
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why doesn't Big Jerk Al take to the streets when a baby is traded for crack by its mom? Or how about when a gang banger shoots off his gun and a stray bullet hits an innocent by-stander? Nope--he sticks to the big ticket issues that give him the most amount of profit from a civil suit.
Right. I wasjust thinking this. How come we never hear him when a minority gets killed as an innocent bystander. Like that poor woman recently who was killed walking past a crowd, left behind 3 children. How come he doesn't speak up and use his power THEN?
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Re: I heard there is going to be protestors today
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to honor his memory..... the $$ she gets from the lawsuit will also help her to "honor" his memory
Right. Why not change it when you have two living children with his name, to honor him ?
Personally I think this should have been done before she had two kids......if it was not done than, why do it now?
Why do you care? Why does anyone care? She has the right to change her name to anything she wants. Why are you trying to smear her?
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Re: I heard there is going to be protestors today
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curious - do you see any connection between "police brutality" becoming more prevalent in minority communities and the fact that violence in general tends to be more prevalent in these communities?
it's kind of like statistics - if there are more instances of violence and crimes being committed than there are going to be more police activity, arrests,
disputes, fights, etc.
Whether violence in minority communities is more prevalent or not "police brutality" is WRONG. There have been cases of police brutality outside of minority neighborhoods against minorities . So where is the excuse in that?
With all due respect, you didn't answer the question posed.
You were asked if you see a connection between "police brutality" becoming more prevalent in minority communities and the fact that violence in general tends to be more prevalent in these communities?
I think we can all agree that police brutality is wrong wherever it happens.
Thank you. Yes, I agree too.
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Re: I heard there is going to be protestors today
Posted by vegalady
My point is is that he is a leader in the black community and there needs to be someone to help and motivate minorities to stand up for their rights as a human being in this society.
Then he should use his power to educate minorities on drugs, gun use, violence WITHIN their own communities.
Why not stand up when a gun toting minority kills an innocent child or mother (also minority)? WHy don't we hear his big mouth then? Not enough for him to capitalize on????
He is nothing but an opportunist, trouble maker for the minority community IMO.
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Re: I heard there is going to be protestors today
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Posted by vegalady
First of all I think that is a very disrespectful of you to imply. He is a leader within the black community and there is nothing wrong with him wanting to promote change in our society. Why is it that you think he is not contributing to society? Is it just because he doesnt have a "real" job. There are plenty of people out here that dont do a 9-5pm and rather work toward helping people or promoting change. So is that not a "real" job? Please help me to understand because your comment doesnt make much sense.
see, the problem i have with him is that if he is a "leader" and wanting to bring about good things in a society then when he ridiculed, for example, the young men at duke university (BEFORE their trial took place) and stated that they had done what they were later acquitted of when the accuser stated what she had accused them of never actually happened - at that point, he should have come out and apologized for basically hanging these men before anything even went to trial - just on believing the accuser's story and not knowing the facts. that was unfair to those men and drastically changed their lives - and NOT for the good. he should have, as a "leader" who is responsible for his actions came out and basically said "you know what? i was wrong - i am sorry" and he NEVER did.
And don't forget Tawana Brawley's lies that he never acknowledged.
I am not understanding why everyone is all over Al Sharpton he is not the one that got shot at. He is just speaking out for his people. Why is everyone staring so closely at his lies instead of some of the good things that he does? Well I hope what he is doing will bring about some positive change.
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Re: I heard there is going to be protestors today
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to honor his memory..... the $$ she gets from the lawsuit will also help her to "honor" his memory
Right. Why not change it when you have two living children with his name, to honor him ?
Personally I think this should have been done before she had two kids......if it was not done than, why do it now?
Why do you care? Why does anyone care? She has the right to change her name to anything she wants. Why are you trying to smear her?
ITA!!! This woman is hurting so badly let's not hurt her anymore. Alot of us will not understand the pain she's going through. She will not be the first or the last to have kids out of wedlock.
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Re: I heard there is going to be protestors today
Posted by vegalady
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Posted by vegalady
First of all I think that is a very disrespectful of you to imply. He is a leader within the black community and there is nothing wrong with him wanting to promote change in our society. Why is it that you think he is not contributing to society? Is it just because he doesnt have a "real" job. There are plenty of people out here that dont do a 9-5pm and rather work toward helping people or promoting change. So is that not a "real" job? Please help me to understand because your comment doesnt make much sense.
So what people say the wrong things all the time we are all human beings. I am sure he was sorry for pointing a finger so quickly. The President of this country ALWAYS says the wrong things and never takes responsibility for ANY of his actions. My point is is that he is a leader in the black community and there needs to be someone to help and motivate minorities to stand up for their rights as a human being in this society.
I agree VegaLady. I don't agree with everything he says or does, but I think that he is a very important leader in the black community.
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Re: I heard there is going to be protestors today
Posted by vegalady
Why is everyone staring so closely at his lies instead of some of the good things that he does? Well I hope what he is doing will bring about some positive change.
So please do tell, what good things has he done? 
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Re: I heard there is going to be protestors today
Posted by vegalady
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Posted by vegalady
First of all I think that is a very disrespectful of you to imply. He is a leader within the black community and there is nothing wrong with him wanting to promote change in our society. Why is it that you think he is not contributing to society? Is it just because he doesnt have a "real" job. There are plenty of people out here that dont do a 9-5pm and rather work toward helping people or promoting change. So is that not a "real" job? Please help me to understand because your comment doesnt make much sense.
see, the problem i have with him is that if he is a "leader" and wanting to bring about good things in a society then when he ridiculed, for example, the young men at duke university (BEFORE their trial took place) and stated that they had done what they were later acquitted of when the accuser stated what she had accused them of never actually happened - at that point, he should have come out and apologized for basically hanging these men before anything even went to trial - just on believing the accuser's story and not knowing the facts. that was unfair to those men and drastically changed their lives - and NOT for the good. he should have, as a "leader" who is responsible for his actions came out and basically said "you know what? i was wrong - i am sorry" and he NEVER did.
And don't forget Tawana Brawley's lies that he never acknowledged.
I am not understanding why everyone is all over Al Sharpton he is not the one that got shot at. He is just speaking out for his people. Why is everyone staring so closely at his lies instead of some of the good things that he does? Well I hope what he is doing will bring about some positive change.
Really do you think he does "good"
Are his actions always on the "good" note.. Why does he need to speak out for his people.. the COURTS and a jury made a decision and that is that.. why can't it be over with..
ahh I dont care what he does, I just want to get home to my Sofia Ava., 
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Re: I heard there is going to be protestors today
Posted by vegalady
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Posted by DaniRella
Posted by vegalady
First of all I think that is a very disrespectful of you to imply. He is a leader within the black community and there is nothing wrong with him wanting to promote change in our society. Why is it that you think he is not contributing to society? Is it just because he doesnt have a "real" job. There are plenty of people out here that dont do a 9-5pm and rather work toward helping people or promoting change. So is that not a "real" job? Please help me to understand because your comment doesnt make much sense.
see, the problem i have with him is that if he is a "leader" and wanting to bring about good things in a society then when he ridiculed, for example, the young men at duke university (BEFORE their trial took place) and stated that they had done what they were later acquitted of when the accuser stated what she had accused them of never actually happened - at that point, he should have come out and apologized for basically hanging these men before anything even went to trial - just on believing the accuser's story and not knowing the facts. that was unfair to those men and drastically changed their lives - and NOT for the good. he should have, as a "leader" who is responsible for his actions came out and basically said "you know what? i was wrong - i am sorry" and he NEVER did.
And don't forget Tawana Brawley's lies that he never acknowledged.
I am not understanding why everyone is all over Al Sharpton he is not the one that got shot at. He is just speaking out for his people. Why is everyone staring so closely at his lies instead of some of the good things that he does? Well I hope what he is doing will bring about some positive change.
Because this thread is about a protest he is putting together.
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Re: I heard there is going to be protestors today
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Posted by vegalady
My point is is that he is a leader in the black community and there needs to be someone to help and motivate minorities to stand up for their rights as a human being in this society.
Then he should use his power to educate minorities on drugs, gun use, violence WITHIN their own communities.
Why not stand up when a gun toting minority kills an innocent child or mother? WHy don't we hear his big mouth then? Not enough for him to capitalize on????
EXACTLY! 
my issue with Sharpton is that you only hear him in the news when something happens in the black community that he sees as an 'injustice' and it usually involves either the police (NYPD especially) or a 'race issue'. if he is such a prominent leader in the community and his voice carries weight---how about getting in there and stop BLAMING EVERYONE ELSE for community problems and start looking inward and just admit that a lot of issues are due to the community itself.
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Re: I heard there is going to be protestors today
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Posted by vegalady
I am not understanding why everyone is all over Al Sharpton he is not the one that got shot at. He is just speaking out for his people. Why is everyone staring so closely at his lies instead of some of the good things that he does? Well I hope what he is doing will bring about some positive change.
Because this thread is about a protest he is putting together.
I was just going to write that.
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Re: I heard there is going to be protestors today
Posted by vegalady
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Posted by vegalady
First of all I think that is a very disrespectful of you to imply. He is a leader within the black community and there is nothing wrong with him wanting to promote change in our society. Why is it that you think he is not contributing to society? Is it just because he doesnt have a "real" job. There are plenty of people out here that dont do a 9-5pm and rather work toward helping people or promoting change. So is that not a "real" job? Please help me to understand because your comment doesnt make much sense.
see, the problem i have with him is that if he is a "leader" and wanting to bring about good things in a society then when he ridiculed, for example, the young men at duke university (BEFORE their trial took place) and stated that they had done what they were later acquitted of when the accuser stated what she had accused them of never actually happened - at that point, he should have come out and apologized for basically hanging these men before anything even went to trial - just on believing the accuser's story and not knowing the facts. that was unfair to those men and drastically changed their lives - and NOT for the good. he should have, as a "leader" who is responsible for his actions came out and basically said "you know what? i was wrong - i am sorry" and he NEVER did.
So what people say the wrong things all the time we are all human beings. I am sure he was sorry for pointing a finger so quickly. The President of this country ALWAYS says the wrong things and never takes responsibility for ANY of his actions. My point is is that he is a leader in the black community and there needs to be someone to help and motivate minorities to stand up for their rights as a human being in this society.
ok you are straying from the topic - it is not about our president and it is not about someone just making a mistake that was an "ooops" and no big deal. he practically RUINED those young men's lives - how long do you think they are going to walk around with people thinking they DID what they did NOT do? they have their whole lives ahead of them and what al sharpton did was careless and reckless and that is not responsible as a leader.
all i am saying is that if he wants to be taken so seriously then he needs to hold himself personally responsible for what he says that was, in this case, NOT true that directly effected other people's lives.
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Re: I heard there is going to be protestors today
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why doesn't Big Jerk Al take to the streets when a baby is traded for crack by its mom? Or how about when a gang banger shoots off his gun and a stray bullet hits an innocent by-stander? Nope--he sticks to the big ticket issues that give him the most amount of profit from a civil suit.
Right. I wasjust thinking this. How come we never hear him when a minority gets killed as an innocent bystander. Like that poor woman recently who was killed walking past a crowd, left behind 3 children. How come he doesn't speak up and use his power THEN?
How come our PRESIDENT doesnt get involved in these issues? Or maybe even Mayor Bloomberg? Or any of the other politicians out there why cant they get involved? You really expect him to be involved in every issue out there? Do you really understand how many minority issues there are in every state, city or community. And you expect one person to answer them all?
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Re: I heard there is going to be protestors today
It's all the police's fault. That's why. It's easier to blame others.
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Re: I heard there is going to be protestors today
Posted by vegalady
You really expect him to be involved in every issue out there? Do you really understand how many minority issues there are in every state, city or community. And you expect one person to answer them all?
Right, so he picks and chooses which ones and those always involve whites/vs blacks or police/vs blacks. Never blacks vs blacks. Hmmm. Jumps on media related situations like a fly on crap.
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Re: I heard there is going to be protestors today
Posted by vegalady
How come our PRESIDENT doesnt get involved in these issues? Or maybe even Mayor Bloomberg? Or any of the other politicians out there why cant they get involved? You really expect him to be involved in every issue out there? Do you really understand how many minority issues there are in every state, city or community. And you expect one person to answer them all?
why do you keep bringing up OTHER people when we are asking what has AL SHARPTON done to help with these issues?? No one is talking about the President (whom i also can't stand) -- you say that he is a "respectful leader in the black community"...so PLEASE enlighten us on all the amazing things that YOU know of that he has done to help the community. because all i have seen him do is create a larger GAP between the black community and the police as well as point fingers of racism.
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Re: I heard there is going to be protestors today
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[why do you keep bringing up OTHER people when we are asking what has AL SHARPTON done to help with these issues?? No one is talking about the President (whom i also can't stand) -- you say that he is a "respectful leader in the black community"...so PLEASE enlighten us on all the amazing things that YOU know of that he has done to help the community. because all i have seen him do is create a larger GAP between the black community and the police as well as point fingers of racism.
Exactly. And WANTS this dissention to occur/continue by NOT apologizing or acknowledging when what he was spewing was a lie or wrong.
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Re: I heard there is going to be protestors today
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curious - do you see any connection between "police brutality" becoming more prevalent in minority communities and the fact that violence in general tends to be more prevalent in these communities?
it's kind of like statistics - if there are more instances of violence and crimes being committed than there are going to be more police activity, arrests,
disputes, fights, etc.
Whether violence in minority communities is more prevalent or not "police brutality" is WRONG. There have been cases of police brutality outside of minority neighborhoods against minorities . So where is the excuse in that?
With all due respect, you didn't answer the question posed.
You were asked if you see a connection between "police brutality" becoming more prevalent in minority communities and the fact that violence in general tends to be more prevalent in these communities?
I think we can all agree that police brutality is wrong wherever it happens.
Thank you. Yes, I agree too.
Yes I do think that violence is more prevalent in these communties. But is your question implying that it is right for "police brutality" to take place b/c there is more violence in minority communities? I think i can answer this question for you by stating that is exactly what you are thinking b/c otherwise you have not asked the previous question.
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Re: I heard there is going to be protestors today
Posted by vegalady
How come our PRESIDENT doesnt get involved in these issues? Or maybe even Mayor Bloomberg? Or any of the other politicians out there why cant they get involved?
What do you really expect these people to do? Change the constitution?
Sean Bell's family had their day in court. The cops were indicted... tried by a jury of their peers... and aquitted.
If you want to talk injustice, then discuss injustice if Sean Bell's family were denied their day in court. That's what you would call injustice.
In this case, justice WAS served. Whether you want to agree with the verdict or not, that's your opinion.
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Re: I heard there is going to be protestors today
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why do you keep bringing up OTHER people when we are asking what has AL SHARPTON done to help with these issues?? No one is talking about the President (whom i also can't stand) -- you say that he is a "respectful leader in the black community"...so PLEASE enlighten us on all the amazing things that YOU know of that he has done to help the community. because all i have seen him do is create a larger GAP between the black community and the police as well as point fingers of racism.
ITA... all I ever see him doing is turning everything into a race issue if a black person is invovled. What good does he do?
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Re: I heard there is going to be protestors today
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Why is everyone staring so closely at his lies instead of some of the good things that he does? Well I hope what he is doing will bring about some positive change.
So please do tell, what good things has he done?
Just by speaking out for his people is something GOOD. What does he have to give 1 billion dollars to a charity to be considered GOOD?
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Posted by vegalady
Yes I do think that violence is more prevalent in these communties. But is your question implying that it is right for "police brutality" to take place b/c there is more violence in minority communities? I think i can answer this question for you by stating that is exactly what you are thinking b/c otherwise you have not asked the previous question.
i don't think anyone is saying its okay to have police brutality issues in communities with high violence/minorities.....i think what the question was posing....if there is highly violent crimes/felonies happening in a community....it means the people are more dangerous and therefore the level of danger that the cops face is higher. therefore accusations of police brutality will come out as the police feel they need to use more force for their protection.....and yes it happens that sometimes the force is excessive, but i don't believe anyone was saying its "okay"
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Re: I heard there is going to be protestors today
Posted by vegalady
So what people say the wrong things all the time we are all human beings. I am sure he was sorry for pointing a finger so quickly. The President of this country ALWAYS says the wrong things and never takes responsibility for ANY of his actions. My point is is that he is a leader in the black community and there needs to be someone to help and motivate minorities to stand up for their rights as a human being in this society.
Vegalady I think it admirable you're trying to defend the guy, but seriously, like it or not, the president is ELECTED and Mr. Sharpton is SELF-APPOINTED.
Sharpton's a parasite, a profiteer, and a panderer, making a living off of the real or imagined suffering of others (as noted in the pope thread).
Whatever "good" he has done for the black community (and I don't have any knowledge of the facts supporting that), became irrelevant after 1991 and the Tawana Brawley fiasco. He's spent the past 17 years trying to regain the national stage he once had, to no avail, and he's not going away gracefully. Just my opinion....
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