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lucyloo
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Re: I heard there is going to be protestors today
I can't stand him.
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Re: I heard there is going to be protestors today
Posted by ave1024
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sorry you are aggrivated but it is a fundamental right
It's not a fundamental right. It's called breaking the law if you are disrupting traffic.
good thing there will be cops there
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Re: I heard there is going to be protestors today
excerise all your rights.................i just want to get home safe and sound and on time to my kids!
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Re: I heard there is going to be protestors today
Posted by ave1024
Posted by stephanief
sorry you are aggrivated but it is a fundamental right
It's not a fundamental right. It's called breaking the law if you are disrupting traffic.
I agree with this.
To cause such a scene and possibly put lives in danger, esp even more innocent lives, is a way to retaliate Sean Bell's death?
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Goobster
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Re: I heard there is going to be protestors today
Sheesh, we see the cause. All over the news.
I would like to know what this truly accomplishes. What will change b/c they stopped traffic for one day? Will that really change our minds? Will that really bring Sean Bell back? Most of us know where we stand and all the BULLYING and inconveniencing isn't going to change that.
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Re: I heard there is going to be protestors today
Posted by Shelly
And again, this is just showing me what a hard job the police have. Sharpton expects to get arrested, which leads me to beleive his plan does not involve peaceful civil disobedience. 
 I agree, just shows what a hard job the police have and Al and his crew are tring to do just that, make it harder.
Why punish US for what a judge decided?
B/c he loves to rally up attention for any cause he can make a scene about.
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Re: I heard there is going to be protestors today
Disclaimer: I happen to agree with the verdict in the case of Sean Bell's death. And...
I'm excited about the protests. I love chaos. I'm really happy to see that people still care about issues not revolving around themselves and their own insular worlds.
I think most people are "against" the protests because they dislike Al Sharpton or because they agree with the verdict or because they want to just float through life...la la la... Today's protests are about a perceived injustice. Let's face it, most of us here can never even imagine life "on the other side."
So big deal--your commute is messed up for one evening. I think our rights are WAY WAY WAY more important than your comfort for one evening. And who knows, you're all being so pessimistic, maybe everything will be ok--do you all drive into the city? I don't think they're planning on hijacking the trains and buses.
Anyway, let the protests begin!
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| Posted 5/7/08 2:35 PM |
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Like I said an another thread I dont really know much on this subject, I was wondering is this something that his family wanted? Is this for them or for Sharpton?
Its horrible that this man died, but protesting isnt going to bring him back, the cops didnt just get to go home and forget about it, they had their day in court. Not everyone will always agree with the verdict, but I dont see everyone protesting for money or whatever because they didnt get their way.
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Re: I heard there is going to be protestors today
you know what pissses me off? is that sharpton wants attention and protestors to be arrested for civil disobedience.........yet i bet he won't be the one to stand up and say "arrest me!" -- he'll let others take the fall first.
he's like a king sending his pawns out to do his dirty work.
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Re: I heard there is going to be protestors today
Posted by Snickers
Disclaimer: I happen to agree with the verdict in the case of Sean Bell's death. And...
I'm excited about the protests. I love chaos. I'm really happy to see that people still care about issues not revolving around themselves and their own insular worlds.
I think most people are "against" the protests because they dislike Al Sharpton or because they agree with the verdict or because they want to just float through life...la la la... Today's protests are about a perceived injustice. Let's face it, most of us here can never even imagine life "on the other side."
So big deal--your commute is messed up for one evening. I think our rights are WAY WAY WAY more important than your comfort for one evening. And who knows, you're all being so pessimistic, maybe everything will be ok--do you all drive into the city? I don't think they're planning on hijacking the trains and buses.
Anyway, let the protests begin!
very well said, you said what I was thinking 
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Re: I heard there is going to be protestors today
Posted by Theresa05
Does anyone know when this crap is starting? 
they said at 3 pm in Mnhattan, I know one of the places is around 60th street and 3rd ave, b/c my DH works around there and I am soooo worried, can't wait till he gets home.
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Re: I heard there is going to be protestors today
Posted by JenBenMen
thanks for the info...looks like no express bus home tonight
??? really? where do u live? my DH gets home on an express bus to Queens, I better find out what's going of for sure and tell him.
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Re: I heard there is going to be protestors today
Posted by stephanief
Posted by Snickers
Disclaimer: I happen to agree with the verdict in the case of Sean Bell's death. And...
I'm excited about the protests. I love chaos. I'm really happy to see that people still care about issues not revolving around themselves and their own insular worlds.
I think most people are "against" the protests because they dislike Al Sharpton or because they agree with the verdict or because they want to just float through life...la la la... Today's protests are about a perceived injustice. Let's face it, most of us here can never even imagine life "on the other side."
So big deal--your commute is messed up for one evening. I think our rights are WAY WAY WAY more important than your comfort for one evening. And who knows, you're all being so pessimistic, maybe everything will be ok--do you all drive into the city? I don't think they're planning on hijacking the trains and buses.
Anyway, let the protests begin!
very well said, you said what I was thinking
I agree that its super fantastic that people are standing up for what they believe in, and it is their right. It is nice to see people actually doing somehing instead of just standing back and letting it go.
On the flip side dont other people, who do not want to be involved in this have the right to get home to their children, and loved ones? I know this is extreme but what happens if a mom cant get home to get her kids off the bus, where do those kids go? Do they just sit outside and wait? What happens if this child is hurt? Can the mom blame Sharpton for what happened to her child? What about a woman who goes into labor, what if she gets stuck in all of this trying to get to the hospital, or the doctor who is supposed to be meeting her there, what if they cant get through?
I am all for practicing what you believe in, but purposely blocking traffic, may end up hurting more innocent people, more than it helps the cause.
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Re: I heard there is going to be protestors today
Posted by Maybeababyin08
On the flip side dont other people, who do not want to be involved in this have the right to get home to their children, and loved ones? I know this is extreme but what happens if a mom cant get home to get her kids off the bus, where do those kids go? Do they just sit outside and wait? What happens if this child is hurt? Can the mom blame Sharpton for what happened to her child? What about a woman who goes into labor, what if she gets stuck in all of this trying to get to the hospital, or the doctor who is supposed to be meeting her there, what if they cant get through?
I am all for practicing what you believe in, but purposely blocking traffic, may end up hurting more innocent people, more than it helps the cause.
Right.
What about ambulences and people needing to get to hospitals?
B/c Sean Bell died, others need to die? This is exactly the problem here. Sorry but other/innocents should not be punished b/c Sean Bell died. We did not cause that, we did not vote on that, etc. Why punish innocents? Will that really bring more attention or empathy to the matter? I think not.
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Re: I heard there is going to be protestors today
Posted by Maybeababyin08
Like I said an another thread I dont really know much on this subject, I was wondering is this something that his family wanted? Is this for them or for Sharpton?
Its horrible that this man died, but protesting isnt going to bring him back, the cops didnt just get to go home and forget about it, they had their day in court. Not everyone will always agree with the verdict, but I dont see everyone protesting for money or whatever because they didnt get their way.
i know his fiancee/mother of his children is planning on attending the protests (not sure which location). i don't know about the rest of his family, but i would assume they will be there too.
i would love to know if the friends he was with that night (i want to call them accomplices but i know i can't  ) will be protesting.
i am still not sure if i agree with the cops decision to shoot sean bell and his friends. i am seriously conflicted about the whole situation because all i really want to know is the truth about what happened that night - which of curse is impossible.
however, i 100% agree with the judge's decision and verdict because he followed the law (and yes, i read all 3 1/2 pages of his decision).
that being said, if Al and his cronies, along with sean bell's family and supporters, would like to protest, i am also 100% in support of that. i don't care if i agree with them or not - it's not MY place to judge them and say they shouldn't protest. if they get arrested, so what? a little traffic never hurt anyone - if everyone is safe, that's all that matters.
i can't imagine what would have happened if it was an undercover cop who got killed that night, and the judge passed down the same verdict because the rest of the officers presented unreliable and shaky testimony. you can bet your azz there would me more than protesting going on.
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pinkandblue
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Re: I heard there is going to be protestors today
Posted by Maybeababyin08
Posted by stephanief
Posted by Snickers
Disclaimer: I happen to agree with the verdict in the case of Sean Bell's death. And...
I'm excited about the protests. I love chaos. I'm really happy to see that people still care about issues not revolving around themselves and their own insular worlds.
I think most people are "against" the protests because they dislike Al Sharpton or because they agree with the verdict or because they want to just float through life...la la la... Today's protests are about a perceived injustice. Let's face it, most of us here can never even imagine life "on the other side."
So big deal--your commute is messed up for one evening. I think our rights are WAY WAY WAY more important than your comfort for one evening. And who knows, you're all being so pessimistic, maybe everything will be ok--do you all drive into the city? I don't think they're planning on hijacking the trains and buses.
Anyway, let the protests begin!
very well said, you said what I was thinking
I agree that its super fantastic that people are standing up for what they believe in, and it is their right. It is nice to see people actually doing somehing instead of just standing back and letting it go.
On the flip side dont other people, who do not want to be involved in this have the right to get home to their children, and loved ones? I know this is extreme but what happens if a mom cant get home to get her kids off the bus, where do those kids go? Do they just sit outside and wait? What happens if this child is hurt? Can the mom blame Sharpton for what happened to her child? What about a woman who goes into labor, what if she gets stuck in all of this trying to get to the hospital, or the doctor who is supposed to be meeting her there, what if they cant get through?
I am all for practicing what you believe in, but purposely blocking traffic, may end up hurting more innocent people, more than it helps the cause.
you bring up very valid points. I hope that the police will be able to prevent too much traffic interruption 
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Re: I heard there is going to be protestors today
Posted by Snickers
Disclaimer: I happen to agree with the verdict in the case of Sean Bell's death. And...
I'm excited about the protests. I love chaos. I'm really happy to see that people still care about issues not revolving around themselves and their own insular worlds.
I think most people are "against" the protests because they dislike Al Sharpton or because they agree with the verdict or because they want to just float through life...la la la... Today's protests are about a perceived injustice. Let's face it, most of us here can never even imagine life "on the other side."
So big deal--your commute is messed up for one evening. I think our rights are WAY WAY WAY more important than your comfort for one evening. And who knows, you're all being so pessimistic, maybe everything will be ok--do you all drive into the city? I don't think they're planning on hijacking the trains and buses.
Anyway, let the protests begin!
I've participated in numerous protests in my life (mainly centered around the death penalty and a couple of other issues). I'd never deny anyone their right to lawfully, peaceably assemble. I think CERTAIN INJUSTICES even justify civil disobedience. (I am making NO call as to whether I think this instance justifies civil disobedience, though...)
That said, the fact that people aren't constantly out holding up signs and taking to the streets en masse doesn't mean that people generally don't care. Sure, plenty of people don't -- but plenty of us are working in far more direct and effective ways to effectuate change in our world. Just b/c I'm not participating in sit-ins anymore doesn't mean that I am apathetic to what is going on in the world. I've just found better ways to do my part, as have many others.
Again, I agree that there are plenty of apathetic people in this country, but the lack of protesting alone doesn't prove that people are apathetic (though I am constantly seeing protests, so I'm not sure there's really a lack of protests...)
As for being annoyed that my evening commute might be effected, well - as a former protestor, I can say, that's part of the POINT of the protest. It gets them attention and forces people to think about the issue at least to some extent. If it didn't annoy people and get people's attention, they wouldn't plan it for rush hour. 
And I'm also fully capable of understanding that they have a right to be there, doing what they are doing when they are doing it, and still be annoyed that one day this week I'll get to leave my office before 8om, I'll have to find a way to get around protestors...
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Re: I heard there is going to be protestors today
Posted by Theresa05
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I think I heard they are started around 3pm and they hope to mess up rush hour. Got this from the channel 7 website.
The protests will be held at:
# One Police Plaza, with Sharpton, Nicole Paultre Bell, Joseph Guzman and Trent Benefield
# Varick and Houston Street, with Hazel Dukes, NAACP and labor leaders
# 125th Street and Third Avenue
# Third Avenue and 60th Street
# 34th Street and Park Avenue
# House of Lord Church, 415 Atlantic Avenue in Brooklyn
All of the locations are near major bridges and streets that are prone to traffic tie-ups even without a demonstration.
"We're trying to tie up the city on a moderate way," Sharpton said. "This is not the shutdown."
Honestly I just don't get it. I was surprised as anyone when the verdict came back on all counts not guilty. But they had a trial, they followed the justice system and they were acquited. It isn't as if they didn't charge them or tried to sweep it under the rug, they lost. Granted I don't think the prosecution proved their case, but again these demenstrations after the trial I think are pointless.
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ITA well said
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Re: I heard there is going to be protestors today
This is what I dont get..
What will do this do? It cant bring Sean Bell back. It cant change what happened. It cant change the judges verdict. So whats the point?
We know people are hurt and upset. We know people didnt agree with the outcome. I just dont understand what this will prove?
It just annoys me..and it annoys me that its always turned into a race issue with Sharpton. 2 of those polices officers were black! I just dont get it at all. I stand by my belief that its just ridiculous and has no meaning at all.
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Re: I heard there is going to be protestors today
Posted by CathyB
Nicole Paultre Bell
didn't he die before their wedding day?
why is her last name Bell if they were not married?
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Re: I heard there is going to be protestors today
She legally changed it
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Re: I heard there is going to be protestors today
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She legally changed it
even though they weren't married? 
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Re: I heard there is going to be protestors today
Posted by DaniRella
Posted by quasi3
She legally changed it
even though they weren't married?
yup i think because he died on the day they were suppoed to get married and she has two of his kids, the Court allowed it.
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Re: I heard there is going to be protestors today
Posted by DaniRella
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Nicole Paultre Bell
didn't he die before their wedding day?
why is her last name Bell if they were not married?
December 7, 2006, Nicole Paultre legally changed her name to Nicole Paultre-Bell to "honor the memory" of Sean Bell.[38] New York State laws require a couple to obtain a marriage license prior to a wedding, and "although the marriage license is issued immediately, the marriage ceremony may not take place within 24 hours from the exact time that the license was issued."[39] According to Nicole Paultre's attorney, a posthumous wedding was impossible since no marriage license had yet been signed
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Re: I heard there is going to be protestors today
to honor his memory..... the $$ she gets from the lawsuit will also help her to "honor" his memory
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