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Re: I heard there is going to be protestors today
Posted by MrsPJB2007
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Nicole Paultre Bell
didn't he die before their wedding day?
why is her last name Bell if they were not married? 
December 7, 2006, Nicole Paultre legally changed her name to Nicole Paultre-Bell to "honor the memory" of Sean Bell.[38] New York State laws require a couple to obtain a marriage license prior to a wedding, and "although the marriage license is issued immediately, the marriage ceremony may not take place within 24 hours from the exact time that the license was issued."[39] According to Nicole Paultre's attorney, a posthumous wedding was impossible since no marriage license had yet been signed
Let me get this straight -
They were planning on getting married the day after he died yet they had never even filed for or signed the marriage license? So, had he lived and they got married it wouldn't have been legitimate b/c there was no marriage license?
Am I reading that right??
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Re: I heard there is going to be protestors today
Posted by quasi3
to honor his memory..... the $$ she gets from the lawsuit will also help her to "honor" his memory
well *technicallly* i don't think she has a right to sue the city herself---as she was not his legal spouse. i think she has to file on behalf of the minor children and they would get the money in a trust.
at least that is my assumption
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Re: I heard there is going to be protestors today
Posted by quasi3
to honor his memory..... the $$ she gets from the lawsuit will also help her to "honor" his memory
Right. Why not change it when you have two living children with his name, to honor him ?
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Re: I heard there is going to be protestors today
Posted by DaniRella
Let me get this straight -
They were planning on getting married the day after he died yet they had never even filed for or signed the marriage license? So, had he lived and they got married it wouldn't have been legitimate b/c there was no marriage license?
Am I reading that right??
no--what they mean is that the marriage license wasn't SIGNED....in other words they could have gotten the license--and then it wasn't going to be signed until just before/after the ceremony.
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Re: I heard there is going to be protestors today
Posted by DaniRella
Posted by MrsPJB2007
Posted by DaniRella
Posted by CathyB
Nicole Paultre Bell
didn't he die before their wedding day?
why is her last name Bell if they were not married?
December 7, 2006, Nicole Paultre legally changed her name to Nicole Paultre-Bell to "honor the memory" of Sean Bell.[38] New York State laws require a couple to obtain a marriage license prior to a wedding, and "although the marriage license is issued immediately, the marriage ceremony may not take place within 24 hours from the exact time that the license was issued."[39] According to Nicole Paultre's attorney, a posthumous wedding was impossible since no marriage license had yet been signed
Let me get this straight -
They were planning on getting married the day after he died yet they had never even filed for or signed the marriage license? So, had he lived and they got married it wouldn't have been legitimate b/c there was no marriage license?
Am I reading that right??
wow... yes i think you are... very interesting. i wonder what happened.
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Re: I heard there is going to be protestors today
Posted by DaniRella
Posted by MrsPJB2007
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Posted by CathyB
Nicole Paultre Bell
didn't he die before their wedding day?
why is her last name Bell if they were not married?
December 7, 2006, Nicole Paultre legally changed her name to Nicole Paultre-Bell to "honor the memory" of Sean Bell.[38] New York State laws require a couple to obtain a marriage license prior to a wedding, and "although the marriage license is issued immediately, the marriage ceremony may not take place within 24 hours from the exact time that the license was issued."[39] According to Nicole Paultre's attorney, a posthumous wedding was impossible since no marriage license had yet been signed
Let me get this straight -
They were planning on getting married the day after he died yet they had never even filed for or signed the marriage license? So, had he lived and they got married it wouldn't have been legitimate b/c there was no marriage license?
Am I reading that right??
Yeah, I am confused now. Yes, you need to file for a marriage license before you get married.
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headoverheels
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Re: I heard there is going to be protestors today
Posted by MrsPJB2007
Posted by DaniRella
Let me get this straight -
They were planning on getting married the day after he died yet they had never even filed for or signed the marriage license? So, had he lived and they got married it wouldn't have been legitimate b/c there was no marriage license?
Am I reading that right??
no--what they mean is that the marriage license wasn't SIGNED....in other words they could have gotten the license--and then it wasn't going to be signed until just before/after the ceremony.
i am so confused.
what DH and i got our marriage license we both signed it and were told that we couldn't get married before 24 huors or after 60 days.
the way this is worded makes it seem like they never even applied for a marriage license.
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DaniJude
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Re: I heard there is going to be protestors today
Posted by MrsPJB2007
Posted by DaniRella
Let me get this straight -
They were planning on getting married the day after he died yet they had never even filed for or signed the marriage license? So, had he lived and they got married it wouldn't have been legitimate b/c there was no marriage license?
Am I reading that right??
no--what they mean is that the marriage license wasn't SIGNED....in other words they could have gotten the license--and then it wasn't going to be signed until just before/after the ceremony.
hmmmm - i see.
thanks for clearing that up!
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headoverheels
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Re: I heard there is going to be protestors today
Posted by DaniRella
Posted by MrsPJB2007
Posted by DaniRella
Let me get this straight -
They were planning on getting married the day after he died yet they had never even filed for or signed the marriage license? So, had he lived and they got married it wouldn't have been legitimate b/c there was no marriage license?
Am I reading that right??
no--what they mean is that the marriage license wasn't SIGNED....in other words they could have gotten the license--and then it wasn't going to be signed until just before/after the ceremony.
hmmmm - i see.
thanks for clearing that up!
oh never mind i get it now
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Re: I heard there is going to be protestors today
Posted by MrsPJB2007
Posted by DaniRella
Let me get this straight -
They were planning on getting married the day after he died yet they had never even filed for or signed the marriage license? So, had he lived and they got married it wouldn't have been legitimate b/c there was no marriage license?
Am I reading that right??
no--what they mean is that the marriage license wasn't SIGNED....in other words they could have gotten the license--and then it wasn't going to be signed until just before/after the ceremony.
So did they not file, or did they not sign it?
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Re: I heard there is going to be protestors today
I am glad he is doing the protest. It may not cause a big change in the way police brutality has seemed to become more prevalent in minority communities but maybe it will send a clear message that the injustice needs to end.
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Re: I heard there is going to be protestors today
Posted by Goobster
Posted by MrsPJB2007
Posted by DaniRella
Let me get this straight -
They were planning on getting married the day after he died yet they had never even filed for or signed the marriage license? So, had he lived and they got married it wouldn't have been legitimate b/c there was no marriage license?
Am I reading that right??
no--what they mean is that the marriage license wasn't SIGNED....in other words they could have gotten the license--and then it wasn't going to be signed until just before/after the ceremony.
So did they not file, or did they not sign it?
they didn't sign it - he would have had to sign it for there to be a posthumous wedding ceremony
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Re: I heard there is going to be protestors today
Posted by headoverheels
i am so confused.
what DH and i got our marriage license we both signed it and were told that we couldn't get married before 24 huors or after 60 days.
the way this is worded makes it seem like they never even applied for a marriage license.
well i think each office is different....i know for DH and i...we obtained the license but didn't sign it until just before the ceremony.
i mean -- i have no idea 100% if they had a license or not....but i know its possible to obtain the license and not sign it until you are about to get married or sometimes right after the ceremony.
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Re: I heard there is going to be protestors today
Posted by vegalady
I am glad he is doing the protest. It may not cause a big change in the way police brutality has seemed to become more prevalent in minority communities but maybe it will send a clear message that the injustice needs to end.
curious - do you see any connection between "police brutality" becoming more prevalent in minority communities and the fact that violence in general tends to be more prevalent in these communities?
it's kind of like statistics - if there are more instances of violence and crimes being committed than there are going to be more police activity, arrests, disputes, fights, etc.
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Re: I heard there is going to be protestors today
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I support the right to PEACEFULLY protest...hope things remain calm
That's all well and good, but when it means it takes me 3 hours to get home after working a 12 hour day .........it's slightly aggravating -
sorry you are aggrivated but it is a fundamental right, IMO, sorry if it inconveniences you. I cannot say I would not be annoyed if it affected my travel but I still support the right
I agree it is crap. Sorry, but I would want to get home safely and quickly too.
He does not have permits, he WANTS people to get arrested - I do NOT support the right to put cops' and other civilians' lives in danger.
Thank you! Maybe he should protest by getting a real job and actually contributing to society for once!
First of all I think that is a very disrespectful of you to imply. He is a leader within the black community and there is nothing wrong with him wanting to promote change in our society. Why is it that you think he is not contributing to society? Is it just because he doesnt have a "real" job. There are plenty of people out here that dont do a 9-5pm and rather work toward helping people or promoting change. So is that not a "real" job? Please help me to understand because your comment doesnt make much sense.
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Re: I heard there is going to be protestors today
Posted by Goobster
Posted by quasi3
to honor his memory..... the $$ she gets from the lawsuit will also help her to "honor" his memory
Right. Why not change it when you have two living children with his name, to honor him ?
Personally I think this should have been done before she had two kids......if it was not done than, why do it now?
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Re: I heard there is going to be protestors today
Posted by vegalady
I am glad he is doing the protest. It may not cause a big change in the way police brutality has seemed to become more prevalent in minority communities but maybe it will send a clear message that the injustice needs to end.
Police are human. Police are trying to protect others and do their job.
I am sorry, but the police are responding TO something, not CAUSING something. The cops wouldn't have started shooting if they didn't hear talk of fighting and gun possession, if a car wasn't being driven at them, motioning of a gun with a hand gesture, etc.
Civilians, minorities or whomever, need to take accountability for their actions. Staying out of places that breed trouble, drugs, crime is a start. The responsibillity goes both ways.
This is not about the police having the problem. It is about the police having to respond to the PROBLEM.
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Re: I heard there is going to be protestors today
Posted by DaniRella
Posted by vegalady
I am glad he is doing the protest. It may not cause a big change in the way police brutality has seemed to become more prevalent in minority communities but maybe it will send a clear message that the injustice needs to end.
curious - do you see any connection between "police brutality" becoming more prevalent in minority communities and the fact that violence in general tends to be more prevalent in these communities?
it's kind of like statistics - if there are more instances of violence and crimes being committed than there are going to be more police activity, arrests,
disputes, fights, etc.
Whether violence in minority communities is more prevalent or not "police brutality" is WRONG. There have been cases of police brutality outside of minority neighborhoods against minorities . So where is the excuse in that?
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Re: I heard there is going to be protestors today
Posted by vegalady
Posted by DaniRella
Posted by vegalady
I am glad he is doing the protest. It may not cause a big change in the way police brutality has seemed to become more prevalent in minority communities but maybe it will send a clear message that the injustice needs to end.
curious - do you see any connection between "police brutality" becoming more prevalent in minority communities and the fact that violence in general tends to be more prevalent in these communities?
it's kind of like statistics - if there are more instances of violence and crimes being committed than there are going to be more police activity, arrests,
disputes, fights, etc.
Whether violence in minority communities is more prevalent or not "police brutality" is WRONG. There have been cases of police brutality outside of minority neighborhoods against minorities . So where is the excuse in that?
That police are human and you cannot expect a human with emotions, adrenaline, etc, to act like a robot with precision in every adrenaline fueled dangerous situation they get into.
It is just not a realistic expectation. Extreme things will happen in extreme senarios. That's why.
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Re: I heard there is going to be protestors today
Posted by DaniRella
curious - do you see any connection between "police brutality" becoming more prevalent in minority communities and the fact that violence in general tends to be more prevalent in these communities?
it's kind of like statistics - if there are more instances of violence and crimes being committed than there are going to be more police activity, arrests, disputes, fights, etc.
ITA. It is always the police's fault. No one wants to take accountability for their own poor choice of actions.
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Re: I heard there is going to be protestors today
Posted by vegalady
First of all I think that is a very disrespectful of you to imply. He is a leader within the black community and there is nothing wrong with him wanting to promote change in our society. Why is it that you think he is not contributing to society? Is it just because he doesnt have a "real" job. There are plenty of people out here that dont do a 9-5pm and rather work toward helping people or promoting change. So is that not a "real" job? Please help me to understand because your comment doesnt make much sense.
see, the problem i have with him is that if he is a "leader" and wanting to bring about good things in a society then when he ridiculed, for example, the young men at duke university (BEFORE their trial took place) and stated that they had done what they were later acquitted of when the accuser stated what she had accused them of never actually happened - at that point, he should have come out and apologized for basically hanging these men before anything even went to trial - just on believing the accuser's story and not knowing the facts. that was unfair to those men and drastically changed their lives - and NOT for the good. he should have, as a "leader" who is responsible for his actions came out and basically said "you know what? i was wrong - i am sorry" and he NEVER did.
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Re: I heard there is going to be protestors today
Posted by DaniRella
Posted by vegalady
First of all I think that is a very disrespectful of you to imply. He is a leader within the black community and there is nothing wrong with him wanting to promote change in our society. Why is it that you think he is not contributing to society? Is it just because he doesnt have a "real" job. There are plenty of people out here that dont do a 9-5pm and rather work toward helping people or promoting change. So is that not a "real" job? Please help me to understand because your comment doesnt make much sense.
see, the problem i have with him is that if he is a "leader" and wanting to bring about good things in a society then when he ridiculed, for example, the young men at duke university (BEFORE their trial took place) and stated that they had done what they were later acquitted of when the accuser stated what she had accused them of never actually happened - at that point, he should have come out and apologized for basically hanging these men before anything even went to trial - just on believing the accuser's story and not knowing the facts. that was unfair to those men and drastically changed their lives - and NOT for the good. he should have, as a "leader" who is responsible for his actions came out and basically said "you know what? i was wrong - i am sorry" and he NEVER did.
And don't forget Tawana Brawley's lies that he never acknowledged.
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Re: I heard there is going to be protestors today
Posted by vegalady
Posted by DaniRella
curious - do you see any connection between "police brutality" becoming more prevalent in minority communities and the fact that violence in general tends to be more prevalent in these communities?
it's kind of like statistics - if there are more instances of violence and crimes being committed than there are going to be more police activity, arrests,
disputes, fights, etc.
Whether violence in minority communities is more prevalent or not "police brutality" is WRONG. There have been cases of police brutality outside of minority neighborhoods against minorities . So where is the excuse in that?
With all due respect, you didn't answer the question posed.
You were asked if you see a connection between "police brutality" becoming more prevalent in minority communities and the fact that violence in general tends to be more prevalent in these communities?
I think we can all agree that police brutality is wrong wherever it happens.
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Re: I heard there is going to be protestors today
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Posted by DaniRella
curious - do you see any connection between "police brutality" becoming more prevalent in minority communities and the fact that violence in general tends to be more prevalent in these communities?
it's kind of like statistics - if there are more instances of violence and crimes being committed than there are going to be more police activity, arrests, disputes, fights, etc.
ITA. It is always the police's fault. No one wants to take accountability for their own poor choice of actions.
absolutely.....i hate when it becomes all about the police....and not about the issues happening in an area. if crime & drug use is high in a neighborhood its going to lead to all kinds of community issues. why doesn't Big Jerk Al take to the streets when a baby is traded for crack by its mom? Or how about when a gang banger shoots off his gun and a stray bullet hits an innocent by-stander? Nope--he sticks to the big ticket issues that give him the most amount of profit from a civil suit.
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Re: I heard there is going to be protestors today
Posted by vegalady
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Posted by vegalady
I am glad he is doing the protest. It may not cause a big change in the way police brutality has seemed to become more prevalent in minority communities but maybe it will send a clear message that the injustice needs to end.
curious - do you see any connection between "police brutality" becoming more prevalent in minority communities and the fact that violence in general tends to be more prevalent in these communities?
it's kind of like statistics - if there are more instances of violence and crimes being committed than there are going to be more police activity, arrests,
disputes, fights, etc.
Whether violence in minority communities is more prevalent or not "police brutality" is WRONG. There have been cases of police brutality outside of minority neighborhoods against minorities . So where is the excuse in that?
I just feel like maybe there is a connection there - harsher crimes can tend to bring about harsher action. Then instances like this are more likely to take place.
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