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Seems someone finally called the cops on those panhandlers we were discussing!

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lvdolphins
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Re: Seems someone finally called the cops on those panhandlers we were discussing!

The cops may not have scared them away because I was at Target on Vets tonight around 6:00 and there was a family there!
I didn't get a close look at the family. I believe it was man, woman, and one child!

Posted 8/24/12 9:38 PM
 
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MrsKR88
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Re: Seems someone finally called the cops on those panhandlers we were discussing!

Saw them in the Best Buy parking lot today in Patchogue by Coldstone. So many people were giving them $$$ Chat Icon

Posted 8/25/12 3:04 PM
 

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Re: Seems someone finally called the cops on those panhandlers we were discussing!

I actually saw on a train one day 2 women with babies. Once they got on train one of the women were begging wit the baby....

Posted 8/25/12 4:52 PM
 

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Re: Seems someone finally called the cops on those panhandlers we were discussing!

Saw another family in the Kohls shopping center in Commack.
They're everywhere. Chat Icon

Posted 8/25/12 5:04 PM
 

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Re: Seems someone finally called the cops on those panhandlers we were discussing!

Posted by Bearcat

Posted by cncforever

Today the family I posted a pic of last time was by chilis today in setauket.

...with a different child...



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So...... Where are they getting these kids from????????Chat Icon

Posted 8/25/12 5:16 PM
 

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Re: Seems someone finally called the cops on those panhandlers we were discussing!

We have a father/mother/child trio that stands outside of stop and shop in Islip and the other day they moved to the best buy parking lot in bay shore. It's super strange that all of a sudden groups are popping up like this. I noticed it in the city a lot more too moms and the kids. Don't know how much is a scam and how much truth is in it but it makes me nervous. Dh said these people swap out kids to. What the hell is wrong with people.

Message edited 8/26/2012 7:04:58 AM.

Posted 8/26/12 7:02 AM
 

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Re: Seems someone finally called the cops on those panhandlers we were discussing!

Looks like it is most likely part of a gypsy scam. Here's a link from CA http://www.flickr.com/photos/lookdaphoto/5352545911/

Another from Canada
http://www.cireport.ca/2012/06/child-abuse-immigrant-family-with-child-panhandling-gypsy-style-in-felt-more-like-41c-temperature.html

London
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2051482/Child-beggars-young-making-100-000-year-gypsy-gangs.html

Queens blog
http://queenscrap.blogspot.com/2012/06/woodhaven-blvd-gypsy-beggar.html

Posted 8/26/12 8:30 AM
 

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Re: Seems someone finally called the cops on those panhandlers we were discussing!

This is crazy if it's a scam, which my gut is saying it probably is.

Having worked with people in need for years now, I can't picture them doing something like this. And to put young children out there like that?

That's just awful!

I think someone should send this to the media as well. Wouldn't be the first time on LIF.

If it's not a scam, maybe the people will get help that they need.

Or at the very least, some kids will be taken out of harms way.

Posted 8/26/12 8:35 AM
 

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Re: Seems someone finally called the cops on those panhandlers we were discussing!

I didn't see the original thread but I just noticed a couple, a toddler and a baby the other day on 110. DH and I commented that its sick that they make them sit outside all day. I know my preschooler and sometimes he is impulsive. God forbid if that kid got up and ran into the street or something!

Posted 8/26/12 8:51 AM
 

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Re: Seems someone finally called the cops on those panhandlers we were discussing!

Posted by LoriH

Looks like it is most likely part of a gypsy scam. Here's a link from CA http://www.flickr.com/photos/lookdaphoto/5352545911/

Another from Canada
http://www.cireport.ca/2012/06/child-abuse-immigrant-family-with-child-panhandling-gypsy-style-in-felt-more-like-41c-temperature.html

London
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2051482/Child-beggars-young-making-100-000-year-gypsy-gangs.html

Queens blog
http://queenscrap.blogspot.com/2012/06/woodhaven-blvd-gypsy-beggar.html



Well, as long as people keep feeling sorry for them and their kids, they will keep doing this and keep making money. Disgusting

Posted 8/26/12 9:54 AM
 

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Re: Seems someone finally called the cops on those panhandlers we were discussing!

Posted by Jacksmommy

I didn't see the original thread but I just noticed a couple, a toddler and a baby the other day on 110. DH and I commented that its sick that they make them sit outside all day. I know my preschooler and sometimes he is impulsive. God forbid if that kid got up and ran into the street or something!



I saw those people on Friday sitting in front of the BJ's parking lot.

Posted 8/26/12 9:58 AM
 

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Re: Seems someone finally called the cops on those panhandlers we were discussing!

I just tried to submit a tip to newsday with links to these threads but, you have to be a registered user. Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon There is a simple form and a tip tab on the top of the page.

Posted 8/26/12 10:02 AM
 

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Re: Seems someone finally called the cops on those panhandlers we were discussing!

In respect to "sharing" their children for this purpose, from the little I understand about their culture, everything is shared. Its almost like living on a commune but the things they get are not necessarily obtained in honest ways. Everything, including children, are utilized to max advantage to pull at your heartstrings.

I'm still shocked they're here but just wait till they brazenly stick their hand in your purse while you're talking to them. It's happened to me 4 times in Italy.

Posted 8/26/12 10:04 AM
 

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Re: Seems someone finally called the cops on those panhandlers we were discussing!

When I lived overseas I would see some of these "groups" (unsure of nationality) slap the children or squeeze the neck really hard so they would cry and be more likely to get more money when begging. very upsetting to see.
This was over there. I have no idea about these people.
Either way it is a terrible envoroment to grow up in...I thought panhandling was illegal here ?!

Posted 8/26/12 10:10 AM
 

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Seems someone finally called the cops on those panhandlers we were discussing!

I hope this doesn't seem like a stupid question- but if these people are genuinely homeless, doesn't that mean it's not a scam? Or do they have houses and they bring in THAT much money? It seems like they are panhandling as a full time job so they probably are unemployed. I get that borrowing other peoples' kids and pooling money makes it shady but is that proven? (BTW I don't condone this at all- my parents are getting older and I worry about them, especially my mom, who loves everyone and won't hesitate to give someone money.)

Posted 8/26/12 12:35 PM
 

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Re: Seems someone finally called the cops on those panhandlers we were discussing!

Posted by MrsProfessor

I hope this doesn't seem like a stupid question- but if these people are genuinely homeless, doesn't that mean it's not a scam? Or do they have houses and they bring in THAT much money? It seems like they are panhandling as a full time job so they probably are unemployed. I get that borrowing other peoples' kids and pooling money makes it shady but is that proven? (BTW I don't condone this at all- my parents are getting older and I worry about them, especially my mom, who loves everyone and won't hesitate to give someone money.)



They are probably on public assistance, disability, etc.

Posted 8/26/12 1:02 PM
 

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Seems someone finally called the cops on those panhandlers we were discussing!

Saw a group in Airport Plaza, today.

In other news, the old Borders is going to be a TJMaxx.

Posted 8/26/12 1:40 PM
 

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Seems someone finally called the cops on those panhandlers we were discussing!

omg i saw a man at the target in medford with a sign and the woman and two small children sitting in the grass me and my friend were sick over not being able to help them out..... I had no idea this was a scam people are sick :/

Posted 8/26/12 4:43 PM
 

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Re: Seems someone finally called the cops on those panhandlers we were discussing!

Posted by Ayne11

The only way they may stop is if the media gets involved. But the likelihood of that happening is slim to none.



Someone should report it to Newsday...... maybe it would get them off Long Island.

Posted 8/26/12 5:25 PM
 

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Re: Seems someone finally called the cops on those panhandlers we were discussing!

Posted by mosa77

omg i saw a man at the target in medford with a sign and the woman and two small children sitting in the grass me and my friend were sick over not being able to help them out..... I had no idea this was a scam people are sick :/



Yep.. they were there today! SAME man, woman and child as last weekend at the Setauket Target.. except this Sunday the woman didn't have a neck brace on! If they're traveling from place to place they must have a vehicle of some sort, otherwise they're making enough money off of people to be paying for a bus.

Posted 8/26/12 8:09 PM
 

sultana
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Re: Seems someone finally called the cops on those panhandlers we were discussing!

News12 is investagating
by the way on another forum they were in front of a King Kullen that was hiring
the store manager said that these pan handlers are a scam-always using different kids and a baby they keep out in extreme heat
they would NOT work in King Kullen because they make MORE money from all the cars lined up giving it away

Posted 8/26/12 8:21 PM
 

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Re: Seems someone finally called the cops on those panhandlers we were discussing!

Posted by LoriH

Looks like it is most likely part of a gypsy scam. Here's a link from CA http://www.flickr.com/photos/lookdaphoto/5352545911/

Another from Canada
http://www.cireport.ca/2012/06/child-abuse-immigrant-family-with-child-panhandling-gypsy-style-in-felt-more-like-41c-temperature.html

London
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2051482/Child-beggars-young-making-100-000-year-gypsy-gangs.html

Queens blog
http://queenscrap.blogspot.com/2012/06/woodhaven-blvd-gypsy-beggar.html



As soon as posters started writing about the switching out of children, my first thought was "gypsy scam"Chat Icon

Don't get me startedChat Icon I've heard WAY too much from my overseas relatives.

The media needs to see this now.
The cops need to do something, now!!
LI has enough problems with the downturn in the economy.

In the meantime, spread the word to everyone you know about this.
And yes, there are legitimate people who have fallen on really hard times (I have family who are among themChat Icon ) but this is just an illegal scam and needs to be stopped.

Why aren't the police at least ticketing them for loitering? Endangering the welfare of a minor?

Posted 8/26/12 8:23 PM
 

sultana
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Re: Seems someone finally called the cops on those panhandlers we were discussing!

Someone is actually filming them
12 men , 8 women, several children/babies
they have a minivan, iphones...
yes, all a scam

Posted 8/26/12 8:43 PM
 

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Re: Seems someone finally called the cops on those panhandlers we were discussing!

Posted by BargainMama

Posted by MrsProfessor

I hope this doesn't seem like a stupid question- but if these people are genuinely homeless, doesn't that mean it's not a scam? Or do they have houses and they bring in THAT much money? It seems like they are panhandling as a full time job so they probably are unemployed. I get that borrowing other peoples' kids and pooling money makes it shady but is that proven? (BTW I don't condone this at all- my parents are getting older and I worry about them, especially my mom, who loves everyone and won't hesitate to give someone money.)



They are probably on public assistance, disability, etc.



I would doubt it. First their immigrant status and second because, culturally, they are off the grid.

Posted 8/26/12 8:47 PM
 

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Re: Seems someone finally called the cops on those panhandlers we were discussing!

Posted by sultana

News12 is investagating
by the way on another forum they were in front of a King Kullen that was hiring
the store manager said that these pan handlers are a scam-always using different kids and a baby they keep out in extreme heat
they would NOT work in King Kullen because they make MORE money from all the cars lined up giving it away




I would doubt they are homeless. They are probably living in an RV so they can make a quick getaway when found out.

this is from another forum:
"This has irked myself and my wife for some time. At first I felt terrible for them but then I started noticing something. Many of these people where showing up all over the island. So I did what comes natural to me and started filming them. At first I was thinking about making a documentary on the hardships of people on the island but that soon changed. While looking over my footage I noticed something. Many of these people were showing up in different places around the island and places that were very far from each other. One man was filmed in the red robin parking lot in Carle Place and also in East Islip later in the week. While looking through the footage I also noticed that the "wife and baby" we're showing up frequently with different "husbands". At first I made an excuse for the children because they could have had more than one and I might have missed them on the day it was the other child's turn. However there is no mistaking the fact that the husband has changed many times. The husband or wife either have multiple partners or they are swapping out in their roles for the poor suckers giving them money.

I have footage of 12 different men and 8 different women. There are times the babies are with different parents all together and other times with the same mom. Every time they see me filming them they immediately drop the sign or turn it around. I am usually very blatant when filming them. Most times I pull right up to them to try and get a good image. Every time the sign drops and they turn from the camera as if on cue. It's very odd that all these different people have the same moves. You might think nothing of this but when viewed side by side the movements almost seem choreographed. As if someone is teaching them what to do. This is also apparent in the eating gesture and then pointing to the baby as if to say "please feed my baby".

Today We were in Northport when we saw them in a parking lot. We went to buy groceries and when we came out we watched them for a bit. I again filmed them and the man and woman were people I had filmed previously but not at this location. As we watched it was approaching 7pm when a late model minivan with no license plates pulled next to them. I saw the couple laughing and talking to them in a way that seemed familiar and not like someone giving them a hand out. I pulled my car into a better position and I saw two men, two women and two babies (not in car seats) inside the van. They were obviously there to pick up this trio and I had recognized the two men from previous footage I had. The one begging finally saw me filming and told the men in the minivan. The minivan guys got out and walked towards me and my wife. I got out of the car holding the camera as they approached and my wife called 852-cops. Maybe it was my size or lack of fear but they stopped about 40 feet from the car and starting filming me with, guess what, their iPhones. That's right people, the same ones begging for food for their daughters carry very expensive phones. The police said they are "VERY" aware of the problem and were sending out a patrol car. The woman on the phone told my wife that they are looking into the people behind these groups. Why would the woman say that unless the police already know that this is a scam.

Today I saw the man pocket (assuming each to be only a dollar) 25 dollars in about 30 minutes (yeah yeah I know I have no life LOL). Never once did they feed the baby or make an attempt to get the baby anything. I have shots of him kissing the money after the people drive away and at times I swore they thought they were on a parade float the way they waved and bowed to passing cars.

I will continue to film and I will also call the non emergency number for the police each time I witness these people. We need to stop feeding this machine and only then will it go away. If we allow this to continue it will get worse and worse. I think this bothers me so much because I know so many people affected by this economy and they have a legitimate need for help. These other people are capitalizing on the situation and the generosity of good people.

Read more: http://www.city-data.com/forum/long-island/1664627-panhandler-man-wife-tot-begging-money-6.html#ixzz24kO0huJv"

Link to forum

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Posted 8/27/12 7:54 AM
 
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