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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal? (includes Grand Jury Report)
Posted by HeathKernandez
Posted by KennysMommy
Thanks for posting - I just read all 23 pages. I am DISGUSTED!!!
But one question kept popping in my head: How and why were young boys allowed to be ALONE with this man? In his car? Sleeping over his house? In the locker room? That part still boggles my mind. I would NEVER let DS go ANYWHERE with a man alone. I don't care WHO he is! Why were they allowed? I'm not blaming parents, but I'm just shocked he was given that opportunity on so many occasions!
He founded a charity for underprivileged children.... Unfortunately these children probably didn't have anyone really caring for them to begin with... 
Which makes it even more sad!
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal? (includes Grand Jury Report)
Posted by mrsBLT
Posted by HeathKernandez
Posted by mrsBLT
i just rose even higher thanks to that invaluable degree 
I hate to say this, because I SYMPATHIZE with outraged students... but this is going to demolish Penn State's reputation if they find out more "higher ups" knew about this and didn't say anything.
Its the truth and I would NOT be calm... I'd be very upset.
if there's one thing i've learned in life thus far, it's to not be upset over things you can't control...and this i can't control so why waste my time being upset?
you're the one that wrote a novel about what a "WONDERFUL PERSON" Paterno was and how "WONDERFUL" Penn State is...
complete with chant....
and continued to argue with people about what a GREAT MAN Paterno was.
He WAS indirectly responsible. HE KNEW. HE KNEW AND DID NOTHING.
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal? (includes Grand Jury Report)
Posted by KennysMommy
Thanks for posting - I just read all 23 pages. I am DISGUSTED!!!
But one question kept popping in my head: How and why were young boys allowed to be ALONE with this man? In his car? Sleeping over his house? In the locker room? That part still boggles my mind. I would NEVER let DS go ANYWHERE with a man alone. I don't care WHO he is! Why were they allowed? I'm not blaming parents, but I'm just shocked he was given that opportunity on so many occasions!
I believe all the named victims were from his charity...these were disenfranchised boys. They had little to no support system. Some may have had no biological family. He preyed on boys that were in need of support and positive figures in their lives. To the mother fighting to keep her son from the streets and gangs - he would have been seen as a blessing. A positive male role model that was suppose to help her son grow in to a young man with some support and hope for the future. He choice his victims wisely.
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HeathKernandez
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal? (includes Grand Jury Report)
Posted by SpencersMommy
Posted by HeathKernandez
Posted by KennysMommy
Thanks for posting - I just read all 23 pages. I am DISGUSTED!!!
But one question kept popping in my head: How and why were young boys allowed to be ALONE with this man? In his car? Sleeping over his house? In the locker room? That part still boggles my mind. I would NEVER let DS go ANYWHERE with a man alone. I don't care WHO he is! Why were they allowed? I'm not blaming parents, but I'm just shocked he was given that opportunity on so many occasions!
He founded a charity for underprivileged children.... Unfortunately these children probably didn't have anyone really caring for them to begin with...
Which makes it even more sad!
SICK.... absolutely sick.
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal? (includes Grand Jury Report)
Posted by mrsBLT
Posted by KennysMommy
Thanks for posting - I just read all 23 pages. I am DISGUSTED!!!
But one question kept popping in my head: How and why were young boys allowed to be ALONE with this man? In his car? Sleeping over his house? In the locker room? That part still boggles my mind. I would NEVER let DS go ANYWHERE with a man alone. I don't care WHO he is! Why were they allowed? I'm not blaming parents, but I'm just shocked he was given that opportunity on so many occasions!
unfortunately, these were boys with troubled lives - boys with no fathers, parents who worked 3420498234 jobs and were hardly ever home, etc. so i don't think there was much (if any) parental supervision. i think the parents trusted him bc of the foundation. he abused his position and abused those poor boys 
Which is even more disgusting. He preyed upon the weak and vunerable.
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal? (includes Grand Jury Report)
Posted by HeathKernandez
Posted by mrsBLT
Posted by HeathKernandez
Posted by mrsBLT
i just rose even higher thanks to that invaluable degree
I hate to say this, because I SYMPATHIZE with outraged students... but this is going to demolish Penn State's reputation if they find out more "higher ups" knew about this and didn't say anything.
Its the truth and I would NOT be calm... I'd be very upset.
if there's one thing i've learned in life thus far, it's to not be upset over things you can't control...and this i can't control so why waste my time being upset?
you're the one that wrote a novel about what a "WONDERFUL PERSON" Paterno was and how "WONDERFUL" Penn State is...
complete with chant....
and continued to argue with people about what a GREAT MAN Paterno was.
He WAS indirectly responsible. HE KNEW. HE KNEW AND DID NOTHING.
wrong... i didn't write it. i copied and pasted it 
and what does what you just said have to do with what you responded to?
ftr, he was a wonderful person. he did a lot of wonderful things. until the day he found out about this and did nothing...
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| Posted 11/10/11 9:28 PM |
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal? (includes Grand Jury Report)
Posted by brownie
Posted by mrsBLT
Posted by KennysMommy
Thanks for posting - I just read all 23 pages. I am DISGUSTED!!!
But one question kept popping in my head: How and why were young boys allowed to be ALONE with this man? In his car? Sleeping over his house? In the locker room? That part still boggles my mind. I would NEVER let DS go ANYWHERE with a man alone. I don't care WHO he is! Why were they allowed? I'm not blaming parents, but I'm just shocked he was given that opportunity on so many occasions!
unfortunately, these were boys with troubled lives - boys with no fathers, parents who worked 3420498234 jobs and were hardly ever home, etc. so i don't think there was much (if any) parental supervision. i think the parents trusted him bc of the foundation. he abused his position and abused those poor boys
Which is even more disgusting. He preyed upon the weak and vunerable.
DH believes this is just the tip of the iceberg and a LOT MORE are going to become exposed.
Did you hear about the DA that disappeared???
This story is BANANAS!!!
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal? (includes Grand Jury Report)
Posted by HeathKernandez
Posted by brownie
Posted by mrsBLT
Posted by KennysMommy
Thanks for posting - I just read all 23 pages. I am DISGUSTED!!!
But one question kept popping in my head: How and why were young boys allowed to be ALONE with this man? In his car? Sleeping over his house? In the locker room? That part still boggles my mind. I would NEVER let DS go ANYWHERE with a man alone. I don't care WHO he is! Why were they allowed? I'm not blaming parents, but I'm just shocked he was given that opportunity on so many occasions!
unfortunately, these were boys with troubled lives - boys with no fathers, parents who worked 3420498234 jobs and were hardly ever home, etc. so i don't think there was much (if any) parental supervision. i think the parents trusted him bc of the foundation. he abused his position and abused those poor boys
Which is even more disgusting. He preyed upon the weak and vunerable.
DH believes this is just the tip of the iceberg and a LOT MORE are going to become exposed.
Did you hear about the DA that disappeared???
This story is BANANAS!!!
I agree. I believe there is so much more to come.
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HeathKernandez
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal? (includes Grand Jury Report)
Posted by mrsBLT
until the day he found out about this and did nothing...
and more children were abused.....
IMO- he's a disgrace. but I guess football is more important... [shrug]
ETA: MY OPINION is solely based on what has been reported thus far... If it turns out that JP didn't know what they are ALLEGING he knew, then I will change my tune.
Message edited 11/10/2011 9:35:40 PM.
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal? (includes Grand Jury Report)
Posted by HeathKernandez
DH believes this is just the tip of the iceberg and a LOT MORE are going to become exposed.
Did you hear about the DA that disappeared???
This story is BANANAS!!!
Yup.
The dude went missing back in 05.
The shitt is gonna hit the fan.
There's a reason people didn't speak up. Maybe they were afraid something would happen to them? Who knows, but this I guarantee, this thing is bigger than any of us realize.
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal? (includes Grand Jury Report)
Posted by mrsBLT
ftr, he was a wonderful person. he did a lot of wonderful things. until the day he found out about this and did nothing...
Thereby negating his prior "wonderful person" status. Permanently. Well, to non-staters anyway.
Make no mistake "JoePa" tried to run the show in this debacle, just he had his little fiefdom over at Penn - which is what ultimately bit him in the arse.
His press conference declaring he'd "resign at the end of the season" was his Hail Mary pass to try to get outta Dodge with some dignity intact.
The board did not take kindly to that last power grab and rightfully fired him on the spot. 
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal? (includes Grand Jury Report)
Posted by KennysMommy
Posted by HeathKernandez
Posted by KennysMommy
Thanks for posting - I just read all 23 pages. I am DISGUSTED!!!
But one question kept popping in my head: How and why were young boys allowed to be ALONE with this man? In his car? Sleeping over his house? In the locker room? That part still boggles my mind. I would NEVER let DS go ANYWHERE with a man alone. I don't care WHO he is! Why were they allowed? I'm not blaming parents, but I'm just shocked he was given that opportunity on so many occasions!
He founded a charity for underprivileged children.... Unfortunately these children probably didn't have anyone really caring for them to begin with...
I know and that makes me even more sad. Unfortunately, it would've happened one way or another, most likely. I feel so sad for them!
I cannot believe the EXTENT of the cover up. Detectives asked to close investigations, etc... UNBELIEVABLE!!!!
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mrsBLT
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal? (includes Grand Jury Report)
...yet continues to employ the asst coach who WITNESSED a child being raped, and the vp who runs the university police and didn't report it either.
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal? (includes Grand Jury Report)
That open letter from Penn State students/alumni is the biggest crock of $hit I've read in a long time. 
How lovely for people to turn a tragedy that happened to innocent boys into how sad for them that their alma mater's name is being sullied. How about some perspective for the victims? To hell with the alumni and school "rising again"...what about the (now) young men who will never forget the horror they experienced for the rest of their lives?
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal? (includes Grand Jury Report)
Posted by brownie
Posted by mrsBLT
Posted by KennysMommy
Thanks for posting - I just read all 23 pages. I am DISGUSTED!!!
But one question kept popping in my head: How and why were young boys allowed to be ALONE with this man? In his car? Sleeping over his house? In the locker room? That part still boggles my mind. I would NEVER let DS go ANYWHERE with a man alone. I don't care WHO he is! Why were they allowed? I'm not blaming parents, but I'm just shocked he was given that opportunity on so many occasions!
unfortunately, these were boys with troubled lives - boys with no fathers, parents who worked 3420498234 jobs and were hardly ever home, etc. so i don't think there was much (if any) parental supervision. i think the parents trusted him bc of the foundation. he abused his position and abused those poor boys
Which is even more disgusting. He preyed upon the weak and vunerable.
Actually, I would think he even started the charity with the intention of having victims easily within his reach. He actually set it up so victims would come to him!
I think he masterminded this since 1979 - god only knows how many there were.
HORRIBLE!
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HeathKernandez
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal? (includes Grand Jury Report)
Posted by mrsBLT
...yet continues to employ the asst coach who WITNESSED a child being raped, and the vp who runs the university police and didn't report it either.
I'm SURE we will hear about what happens to them in the weeks to come. Like I said, I wouldn't be surprise is charges aren't brought up against McQueary
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal? (includes Grand Jury Report)
Posted by HeathKernandez
Posted by mrsBLT
until the day he found out about this and did nothing...
and more children were abused.....
IMO- he's a disgrace. but I guess football is more important... [shrug]
ETA: MY OPINION is solely based on what has been reported thus far... If it turns out that JP didn't know what they are ALLEGING he knew, then I will change my tune.
Don't worry, I seriously doubt you will have to change your tune...where there is smoke there is always fire. This is just the tip of the iceberg with this story....unfortunately I would bet money that so much more is going to come out.
And for the record...every person there who knew, sorta knew, could've knew should be fired and more. People like to say boys were" molested"..that is sugar coating it LITTLE boys were RAPED in the ANUS!!!!!!!!!
I work in a major local University....obviously this is a topic of convo...bottom line I don't give a flying eff if people there "supposedly" followed protocol in reporting.The fact of the matter is we ALL as HUMAN BEINGS have a responsibility to protect CHILDREN no matter what the cost.
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal? (includes Grand Jury Report)
Posted by colette
To all you state people,
Clearly YOU do not understand. If an institution is embedding itself in a student's life, (which sounds ominous, by the way) that student might do well to be damn sure that the institution holds its employees to a standard of behavior that the student agrees with.
And right now we want you to know this:
You are MORALLY OBLIGATED to be distraught and sickened. You will get no honors from us "non-staters" for feeling revulsion - it's what NORMAL THINKING PEOPLE DO.
You pray for the "victims to find a way to live a good life"?? Well the statistics don't offer too much hope there, sorry to say.
And I hate to throw more cold water, or Gatorade, whatever, on your virtual rah-rah fest, but here's the thing: YES. This IS the Penn State you love, and the Penn State that is part of your being. If that makes you sad, well, so be it. If that makes you angry, well then, now we're getting somewhere.
Spare us the naive and condescending character reference for "JoePa". Simply put, if Joe was your father, would you be proud of him today? More than likely you would hang your head in shame and disgust as his inaction. If one of those children were YOUR child, would you care where he ate ice cream? Frankly I might care, if only to find him there with a few of my friends and a Louisville Slugger.
YOU ARE... rioting in the streets - for the wrong reason
YOU ARE... unwittingly victimizing these children once more
YOU ARE... perhaps blinded by the "idea" of your hallowed halls, when the real picture is stomach turning
And I wish you luck in that "rise again" thing.
This is the best thing I've ever read on LIF. 
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HeathKernandez
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal? (includes Grand Jury Report)
I'm telling you... this is his "Bill Buckner" moment...
Buckner was a HALL OF FAME 1st Baseman... about to retire. --- WHAT IS HE REMEMBERED FOR to non-sport junkies...or non-dodger/cub/red sox fans...
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal? (includes Grand Jury Report)
Posted by HeathKernandez
I'm telling you... this is his "Bill Buckner" moment...
Buckner was a HALL OF FAME 1st Baseman... about to retire. --- WHAT IS HE REMEMBERED FOR to non-sport junkies...or non-dodger/cub/red sox fans...
I don't know who Bill Buckner is.
Or "JoePa" either.
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal? (includes Grand Jury Report)
Posted by mrsBLT
Posted by HeathKernandez
Posted by mrsBLT
i just rose even higher thanks to that invaluable degree
I hate to say this, because I SYMPATHIZE with outraged students... but this is going to demolish Penn State's reputation if they find out more "higher ups" knew about this and didn't say anything.
Its the truth and I would NOT be calm... I'd be very upset.
if there's one thing i've learned in life thus far, it's to not be upset over things you can't control...and this i can't control so why waste my time being upset?
No you are spending your time defending an *******!
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal? (includes Grand Jury Report)
Posted by jlm2008
Posted by HeathKernandez
Posted by mrsBLT
until the day he found out about this and did nothing...
and more children were abused.....
IMO- he's a disgrace. but I guess football is more important... [shrug]
ETA: MY OPINION is solely based on what has been reported thus far... If it turns out that JP didn't know what they are ALLEGING he knew, then I will change my tune.
Don't worry, I seriously doubt you will have to change your tune...where there is smoke there is always fire. This is just the tip of the iceberg with this story....unfortunately I would bet money that so much more is going to come out.
And for the record...every person there who knew, sorta knew, could've knew should be fired and more. People like to say boys were" molested"..that is sugar coating it LITTLE boys were RAPED in the ANUS!!!!!!!!!
I work in a major local University....obviously this is a topic of convo...bottom line I don't give a flying eff if people there "supposedly" followed protocol in reporting.The fact of the matter is we ALL as HUMAN BEINGS have a responsibility to protect CHILDREN no matter what the cost.
Yep, its getting worse and worse...and those defending these monsters are just looking more and more idiotic
These evilpigs belong in the STATE PEN
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal? (includes Grand Jury Report)
Posted by Stacey1403
Posted by mrsBLT
Posted by HeathKernandez
Posted by mrsBLT
i just rose even higher thanks to that invaluable degree
I hate to say this, because I SYMPATHIZE with outraged students... but this is going to demolish Penn State's reputation if they find out more "higher ups" knew about this and didn't say anything.
Its the truth and I would NOT be calm... I'd be very upset.
if there's one thing i've learned in life thus far, it's to not be upset over things you can't control...and this i can't control so why waste my time being upset?
No you are spending your time defending an *******!
Seriously!!!!
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HeathKernandez
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal? (includes Grand Jury Report)
Posted by Palebride
I don't know who Bill Buckner is.
you need to be fired.
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal? (includes Grand Jury Report)
Anyone who had an inkling of what was going on and didn't do a damn thing or follow through on any "rumors" needs to sit and rot with this over them forever. Then they can answer to God and explain why they did nothing to protect these children.
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