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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal? (updated Sandusky interview with Bob Costas link)
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TMZ is now claiming that's not him? I don't know it's weird.
Sandusky is appearing on RockCenter tonight being interviewed by Bob Costas.
Rock Center
Fox News had reported he was at LaGuardia today... they referenced this same TMZ photo... I also just saw on ESPN that he is appearing on Rock Center. I can't believe this child predator is just allowed to go about freely.
fox news reported it wasn't him on the 10:00 news last night. he's not allowed to leave the state of pennsylvania, but he's allowed to do whatever the f he pleases while there 
Ok that's wierd then they must have changed their report because on the 5:00 news they had said it was him... I agree, it's insane how he's being able to just do whatever he wants in his hometown... This whole story is just so disturbing... I feel like he's being allowed to keep a low profile because all the attention is being directed towards Penn State and Paterno...
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal? (updated Sandusky interview with Bob Costas link)
And now in the latest installment of "PENN STATE OFFICIALS WHO ARE FULL OF SHIZ":
McQueary claims he stopped the rape, had discussions with police, and is getting "hammered" for his handling of the situation.
"No one can imagine my thoughts or wants to be in my shoes for those 30-45 seconds," McQueary wrote. "Trust me."
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Hmmm. You know what Mike, I can think of one kid, around 10 years old, who would've loved to have been in your shoes right then.
Oh and all this was sent via email to his unnamed "friend and classmate".
DON'T YOU JUST HAAAAAAAATE when the emails you write end up {{cough cough LEAKED DELIBERATELY}} getting published on your local paper's front page?
Story here...
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| Posted 11/15/11 9:32 PM |
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal? (updated Sandusky interview with Bob Costas link)
I've been following this thread and have a few comments:
1. Obviously this is horrible for these kids and anyone found to have any connection with covering up the situation should be punished accordingly.
2. I don't understand the anger from the non-PSU folks at the PSU people who feel horrible for the children AND the effect that this had on their school. I went to UNC which is a school that has a very rich basketball program with some iconic coaches (and one of the "public ivys" with a rich academic tradition as well) and I could see how the reactions would be similar if this happened down there (hopefully w/o the rioting) . If you go to a school like this, school spirit isn't just about wearing a t-shirt but really becomes part of who you are as a person. While obviously no one is hurting more than the children who were raped, clearly this scandal has rocked this school to the core. You can say that "they deserved it", but thus far what I have seen is it appears some high ups in the organization have swept this under the rug. However, I have not seen evidence from the PSU community that they do not care about the children.
3. I'm not sure how punishing the players (who are kids themselves) by cancelling the season, bowl games, football program, etc, etc does anything to ease the pain of the raped children. These kids have worked their whole lives to end up in this situation. You are going to punish them because of what some OTHER adults did. Not fair to them and it will not un-rape (is that a word?) those children.
4. It seems like the public LOVES it when a "golden boy" figure goes down. While Paterno probably needs to go because of this, I think the university is conveniently centering this on him to draw attention away from others. He was a 2nd hand source and did report to his superiors. Could he have done more? Yes. However, I think there are others (McCready) who should shoulder more of the blame.
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| Posted 11/16/11 4:51 AM |
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal? (updated Sandusky interview with Bob Costas link)
Posted by colette
Still I prefer to think those athletes are horrified by it all, and if they're not, perhaps their families ARE and will explain to them the soul-crushing reality of child abuse in any form, and corruption so ingrained that caused otherwise decent people to lose their damn minds.
My take on the rioting was that really it was a juvenile (but I'll cut some slack, they are kids after all) reaction to a SHOCK, like a cataclysmic shift in reality, and the kids simply did not know what to do with their frustration, anger, and disappointment so it bubbled over into public and inane disorderly conduct. I don't really believe the ahtletes themselves were at the center of it, frankly. I'm pretty sure the administration and team have had those kids on LOCKDOWN since the scandal broke.
But yes, as an older (WAY older actually
 ) woman, and a mom, and a Catholic, wait, better yet an IRISH Catholic (*see: Church scandal, Ireland for details), a sports-centric university graduate, yaddayadda my feelings are filtered through my experience.
And none of my opinions matter one fig in all of this, frankly. 
For the shear fact that a 28 year old GROWN MAN thought to call his father first, after witnessing what he did and for that man's father to essentially do nothing but tell him to come home and they'd talk as opposed to telling him to get back in that locker room and tear that animal off that little boy, tells me that even the adults, the parents of those involved (not the victims) will turn the other cheek to protect the program.
We live in NY, we have some of the best schools around with amazing sports programs, but we have a life outside that school and our realities, though maybe largely focused on a single goal of winning, we live in a city where there's more. This simply isn't true for Penn State. Their sports, their football program is ALL they have. That school is in the boondocks. Corn fields. There's nothing else; and call me a close minded arsehole, but as a result, IMO, that's all they've got and they'll do anything to preserve it.
The students and athletes and school admin aren't the only ones drinking the blue koolaid down there. This goes deep into the community.
As for your take on the kids rioting, I agree. I think that was the result of kids not truly grasping or understanding just what was going on and the severity of the situation and what we saw was a lot of misdirected anger.
But you're right, in the end, our opinions matter not, for what's been done is done and nothing can change that.
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| Posted 11/16/11 10:54 AM |
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal? (updated Sandusky interview with Bob Costas link)
Posted by colette
And now in the latest installment of "PENN STATE OFFICIALS WHO ARE FULL OF SHIZ":
McQueary claims he stopped the rape, had discussions with police, and is getting "hammered" for his handling of the situation.
"No one can imagine my thoughts or wants to be in my shoes for those 30-45 seconds," McQueary wrote. "Trust me."
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Hmmm. You know what Mike, I can think of one kid, around 10 years old, who would've loved to have been in your shoes right then.
Oh and all this was sent via email to his unnamed "friend and classmate".
DON'T YOU JUST HAAAAAAAATE when the emails you write end up {{cough cough LEAKED DELIBERATELY}} getting published on your local paper's front page?
Story here...
I'm particularly intrigued by this quote:
McQueary also wrote that he "is getting hammered for handling this the right way or what I thought at the time was right."
So is he getting hammered for handling it the right way or not? Because the first part of this statement says he handled it the right way, but then in the very next part of the same statement he says or what he thought to be the best way. So which is it?
And why is it only NOW coming out that he did go to police? You mean AFTER he got hammered in the public eye for going to his dad, RATHER than going back into that locker room and STOPPING a RAPE from occurring?
Poor Mike McQueary...PUH-LEESE. 
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| Posted 11/16/11 11:05 AM |
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal? (updated Sandusky interview with Bob Costas link)
Posted by letsmakeababy
I have to say this is a huge generalization. I am not sure if you are aware of how many people attend Penn State and how many alumni there actually are. Hundreds of thousands combined. The rioters are a small portion of the Penn State community and they don't represent the feelings of all of the student body and alumni. I don't think it is fair to say that most people care only about foodball and not about the victims. I attended Penn State and am truly saddened by all of this. Yes, I am heartbroken that this has all happened and has tarnished the reputation of the school and that Joepa's career ended the way it did (I don't disagree that he should have been fired, but just said that it played out how it did). However, I am mostly devestated for those poor boys. I think the media has turned this whole thing into a major circus. Instead of focusing on the victims, they have turned all of the attention onto Joepa. I still think that to say people at Penn State don't care about the victims is unfair. There are a lot of Penn Staters working hard right now to raise awareness and $$ to support the victims. Of course they don't show that on the news though.
I am aware of just how many students and subsequent alum there are from Penn State - with an enrollment of about 40M, yeah, I can do the math.
While I agree the media will spotlight one person or thing to give their slant on the situation, I still can't get past the actions of those being featured and feel, to some extent, that yes, this IS the mentality down there.
For the simple fact that I've heard more than one former student and current students say they're sad that this happened and that it's tarnishing the school's reputation says to me that there seems to be more of a concern about the school than these boys.
It seems to me there is almost more anger, sadness, shock, etc over the now tarnished reputation than over the fact that, lord knows how many, boys were sexually abused.
Again, this is just my opinion, but nonetheless, how I feel.
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal? (updated Sandusky interview with Bob Costas link)
Posted by colette
And now in the latest installment of "PENN STATE OFFICIALS WHO ARE FULL OF SHIZ":
McQueary claims he stopped the rape, had discussions with police, and is getting "hammered" for his handling of the situation.
"No one can imagine my thoughts or wants to be in my shoes for those 30-45 seconds," McQueary wrote. "Trust me."
**********
Hmmm. You know what Mike, I can think of one kid, around 10 years old, who would've loved to have been in your shoes right then.
Oh and all this was sent via email to his unnamed "friend and classmate".
DON'T YOU JUST HAAAAAAAATE when the emails you write end up {{cough cough LEAKED DELIBERATELY}} getting published on your local paper's front page?
Story here...
I'm so upset I feel like a snow globe 
Message edited 11/16/2011 11:20:15 AM.
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal? (updated Sandusky interview with Bob Costas link)
Posted by letsmakeababy
I have to say this is a huge generalization. I am not sure if you are aware of how many people attend Penn State and how many alumni there actually are. Hundreds of thousands combined. The rioters are a small portion of the Penn State community and they don't represent the feelings of all of the student body and alumni. I don't think it is fair to say that most people care only about foodball and not about the victims. I attended Penn State and am truly saddened by all of this. Yes, I am heartbroken that this has all happened and has tarnished the reputation of the school and that Joepa's career ended the way it did (I don't disagree that he should have been fired, but just said that it played out how it did). However, I am mostly devestated for those poor boys. I think the media has turned this whole thing into a major circus. Instead of focusing on the victims, they have turned all of the attention onto Joepa. I still think that to say people at Penn State don't care about the victims is unfair. There are a lot of Penn Staters working hard right now to raise awareness and $$ to support the victims. Of course they don't show that on the news though.
Thank you. I agree.
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal? (updated Sandusky interview with Bob Costas link)
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Posted by letsmakeababy
I have to say this is a huge generalization. I am not sure if you are aware of how many people attend Penn State and how many alumni there actually are. Hundreds of thousands combined. The rioters are a small portion of the Penn State community and they don't represent the feelings of all of the student body and alumni. I don't think it is fair to say that most people care only about foodball and not about the victims. I attended Penn State and am truly saddened by all of this. Yes, I am heartbroken that this has all happened and has tarnished the reputation of the school and that Joepa's career ended the way it did (I don't disagree that he should have been fired, but just said that it played out how it did). However, I am mostly devestated for those poor boys. I think the media has turned this whole thing into a major circus. Instead of focusing on the victims, they have turned all of the attention onto Joepa. I still think that to say people at Penn State don't care about the victims is unfair. There are a lot of Penn Staters working hard right now to raise awareness and $$ to support the victims. Of course they don't show that on the news though.
Thank you. I agree.
I think like reality tv, the news works with what they're given.
If so much was being done for the victims why isn't it being showcased. Hell, I'd think PSU would be doing EVERYTHING in their power to publicize all the good they're doing, no?
Again, I'm not saying everyone doesn't care. I'm just saying that I believe there are more that don't care than do.
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal? (updated Sandusky interview with Bob Costas link)
Posted by Jennie0898
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Sandusky's recent interview did nothing to his so called innocence. This guy needs to spend the rest of his life in jail and I can not believe he lives near an elementary school 
Did anyone read this part of his interview the same way I did:
Well -- you might think that," Sandusky said. "I don't know. (LAUGHS) In terms of -- my relationship with so many, many young people. I would -- I would guess that there are many young people who would come forward. Many more young people who would come forward and say that my methods and -- and what I had done for them made a very positive impact on their life. And I didn't go around seeking out every young person for sexual needs that I've helped. . There are many that I didn't have -- I hardly had any contact with who I have helped in many, many ways.
I missed this but I didn't miss how his attorney John Amendola said there would be victims speaking out about how nothing happened.
I can't help but wonder if they're going after these victims, threatening or paying them off. 
As I've said before, this case involves a LOT of people with a LOT of money.
Unlimited resources can be a dangerous thing.
I think in the Grand Jury report, one of the victims reported that Sandusky and his wife were calling and leaving messages for him just days before he was interviewed. Hmmm someone trying to cover their a$$?
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal? (updated Sandusky interview with Bob Costas link)
Posted by DrMeg
I think in the Grand Jury report, one of the victims reported that Sandusky and his wife were calling and leaving messages for him just days before he was interviewed. Hmmm someone trying to cover their a$$?
Yes, one of the victims DID say Sandusky, his wife and a friend of theirs had all called and left messages for him, to which he didn't return. This was also the same victim who had only "a "blurry memory" of some contact with Sandusky in the shower but was unable to recall it clearly."
I quoted that last part as I took it verbatim from the report.
I'd just LOVE to know what was said on those messages. Somehow I don't think it was just to catch up and see how things were going...
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal? (updated Sandusky interview with Bob Costas link)
Posted by Jennie0898
Posted by letsmakeababy
I have to say this is a huge generalization. I am not sure if you are aware of how many people attend Penn State and how many alumni there actually are. Hundreds of thousands combined. The rioters are a small portion of the Penn State community and they don't represent the feelings of all of the student body and alumni. I don't think it is fair to say that most people care only about foodball and not about the victims. I attended Penn State and am truly saddened by all of this. Yes, I am heartbroken that this has all happened and has tarnished the reputation of the school and that Joepa's career ended the way it did (I don't disagree that he should have been fired, but just said that it played out how it did). However, I am mostly devestated for those poor boys. I think the media has turned this whole thing into a major circus. Instead of focusing on the victims, they have turned all of the attention onto Joepa. I still think that to say people at Penn State don't care about the victims is unfair. There are a lot of Penn Staters working hard right now to raise awareness and $$ to support the victims. Of course they don't show that on the news though.
I am aware of just how many students and subsequent alum there are from Penn State - with an enrollment of about 40M, yeah, I can do the math.
While I agree the media will spotlight one person or thing to give their slant on the situation, I still can't get past the actions of those being featured and feel, to some extent, that yes, this IS the mentality down there.
For the simple fact that I've heard more than one former student and current students say they're sad that this happened and that it's tarnishing the school's reputation says to me that there seems to be more of a concern about the school than these boys.
It seems to me there is almost more anger, sadness, shock, etc over the now tarnished reputation than over the fact that, lord knows how many, boys were sexually abused.
Again, this is just my opinion, but nonetheless, how I feel.
 And to the poster that talked about their alma mater being a similar community in terms of die-hard sports fans, I think that is exactly what the problem was here...that because this program was so renowned, people were scared and do anything to keep this abuse under wraps. Obviously the individuals who did this were the ones wrong, but you have to look at how the environment played a part. And I'll say it again, I think the Penn State students who are upset should be upset with THEIR university for allowing this to happen...their tuition, student loans, money from the state...all of these monies were paying into this institution who failed them. JMO 
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