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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal? (includes Grand Jury Report)
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First comes one then comes the other. Like clockwork.
I think you're looking for the Relationships board.
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal? (includes Grand Jury Report)
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Posted by mrsBLT
To all non-state people,
We know you don't understand. Generally, we don't try to explain. Unless you are a Buckeye or Fighting Irish, you probably don't get how an institution embeds itself in a student's life. And that is fine.
But right now, we want you to know this:
We are distraught and truly sickened by this horror perpetrated on young victims by one who represented the Blue and White, and perpetuated by others at the University. We aren't blind followers who drink Blue Kool-Aid. We grieve for and with the victims and their families. We pray for them to find healing and peace and a way to live a good life.
We know that while many people had responsibility, the most visible one almost always goes down first. We are not disputing the need for this to happen.
We are not "defending" anything. We are simply crushed and heartbroken. This is not the Penn State we love, the Penn State that is part of our being.
What you know of Joe Paterno probably comes from television or magazine articles.
We know the man who has lived in the same McKee St house for decades. We have chatted with him as he walked to practice. We have eaten ice cream with him at the Creamery. We have studied in the new library wing his money helped build. We have visited the sports museum and spiritual center he also helped build. We have seen him cheering on other Penn State athletes. We know he loves Penn State as much as we do.
Some of our friends, brothers, husbands, sons have been privileged to put on the Blue and White uniform and listen to 100,000 fans in Beaver Stadium. We know how hard they have worked, how much time they have devoted, how many of them have been part of an excellent scholar/athlete legacy...and how much they love this man and this program.
We aren't stupid or naive. We know Joe Paterno has culpability. We know he could have made different choices - he admitted that. We don't think he is God or always perfect or saintly. But he is the greatest college football coach ever, and he is PSU family, and we don't want his exit to be like this.
WE ARE...not closing our eyes, ignoring reports, pretending this isn't a wretched occurrence.
WE ARE...angry that innocents would be violated under our care.
WE ARE...in support of appropriate punishment for every person involved.
WE ARE...demanding change to a system that would allow this.
WE ARE...not concerned if you do not understand our love and devotion.
WE ARE...PENN STATE proud and we will rise again.
YOU ARE DISGUSTING if you are even a TEENY BIT sympathetic to JOE "PA", those savage students or ANYONE who knew about this...
You could have been one of those articulate and SMART students on the news tonight who I saw interviewed who I *believed* that not all students at Penn are "outraged" by the old man's firing.
but no.... you are JUST as bad.
POOR Penn state... I hope this beefs up enrollment in our area... b/c of those stupid students.
good going.
I would be ABSOLUTELY OUTRAGED and embarrassed if my institution covered up such a horrific crime.
I'd be OUTRAGED b/c your degree just lost its value, MrsBLT.
you're right... i'm disgusting and i support child molestation. congrats! you got it all right 
i am smart. i am articulate. and for the record, i am outraged.
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal? (includes Grand Jury Report)
Posted by colette
Posted by Kazuri
First comes one then comes the other. Like clockwork.
I think you're looking for the Relationships board.
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| Posted 11/10/11 8:58 PM |
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SpencersMommy
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal? (includes Grand Jury Report)
Posted by HeathKernandez
Posted by Kazuri
First comes one then comes the other. Like clockwork.
you're a genius. 
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| Posted 11/10/11 9:01 PM |
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HeathKernandez
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal? (includes Grand Jury Report)
aaaaaaaaaaaanyway- back to the issue...
my husband is so heated about this... He's been following this story so closely.
What angers him the most is the MORALS that Penn State is built upon on how MUCH this was covered up...
HOW MANY PEOPLE KNEW...
They say ON AVERAGE, pedophiles violate approx. 107 children...
PEOPLE KNEW!!!!!!
What everyone should be asking is why Mike McQueary is still coaching there...
I honestly believe he will eventually be brought up on charges... as well as Paterno.
Paterno had an AMAZING career... but this is his "Buckner" moment. THIS is what he will be remembered for (from those not college football fans or Penn State grads...)
If only it was a grounder towards first base rolling through the legs.
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HeathKernandez
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal? (includes Grand Jury Report)
Posted by mrsBLT
i'm disgusting and i support child molestation.
nice.
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| Posted 11/10/11 9:03 PM |
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal? (includes Grand Jury Report)
I never heard the name "Joe Paterno" before this week.
So the dude may be an icon in PA, at Penn State, hey maybe even in the entire universe of SPORTS.
But to millions of people like me who've never heard of him... he's a moron, a sc*mbag, and a goddamned fool.
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mrsBLT
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal? (includes Grand Jury Report)
Posted by HeathKernandez
Posted by mrsBLT
i'm disgusting and i support child molestation.
nice.
oh puh-freaking-lease. are we reverting to quoting phrases that take ppls words out of context and make them look bad?
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| Posted 11/10/11 9:06 PM |
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HeathKernandez
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal? (includes Grand Jury Report)
Posted by mrsBLT
Posted by HeathKernandez
Posted by mrsBLT
i'm disgusting and i support child molestation.
nice.
oh puh-freaking-lease. are we reverting to quoting phrases that take ppls words out of context and make them look bad?
just keep calm. you'll rise again
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| Posted 11/10/11 9:07 PM |
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SpencersMommy
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal? (includes Grand Jury Report)
Posted by HeathKernandez
Posted by mrsBLT
Posted by HeathKernandez
Posted by mrsBLT
i'm disgusting and i support child molestation.
nice.
oh puh-freaking-lease. are we reverting to quoting phrases that take ppls words out of context and make them look bad?
just keep calm. you'll rise again
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mrsBLT
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal? (includes Grand Jury Report)
Posted by HeathKernandez
Posted by mrsBLT
Posted by HeathKernandez
Posted by mrsBLT
i'm disgusting and i support child molestation.
nice.
oh puh-freaking-lease. are we reverting to quoting phrases that take ppls words out of context and make them look bad?
just keep calm. you'll rise again
i'm not not calm. and i didn't fall. in fact, i just rose even higher thanks to that invaluable degree
Message edited 11/10/2011 9:12:05 PM.
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HeathKernandez
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal? (includes Grand Jury Report)
Posted by mrsBLT
i'm not not clam. and i didn't fall. in fact, i just rose even higher thanks to that invaluable degree
I'm not a clam either.
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal? (includes Grand Jury Report)
Posted by mrsBLT
i'm not not clam. and i didn't fall. in fact, i just rose even higher thanks to that invaluable degree
Absolutely. If by rose even higher you mean you're smoking something fiiiiiiiine.
And no degree is invaluable, cupcake.
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| Posted 11/10/11 9:12 PM |
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HeathKernandez
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal? (includes Grand Jury Report)
Posted by mrsBLT
i just rose even higher thanks to that invaluable degree
I hate to say this, because I SYMPATHIZE with outraged students... but this is going to demolish Penn State's reputation if they find out more "higher ups" knew about this and didn't say anything.
Its the truth and I would NOT be calm... I'd be very upset.
Message edited 11/10/2011 9:13:29 PM.
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal? (includes Grand Jury Report)
Posted by colette
I never heard the name "Joe Paterno" before this week.
So the dude may be an icon in PA, at Penn State, hey maybe even in the entire universe of SPORTS.
But to millions of people like me who've never heard of him... he's a moron, a sc*mbag, and a goddamned fool.
Exactly. This quote seems appropriate:
"One man cannot do right in one department of life whilst he is occupied in doing wrong in any other department. Life is one indivisible whole."
Mohandas Gandhi
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| Posted 11/10/11 9:15 PM |
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mrsBLT
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal? (includes Grand Jury Report)
Posted by HeathKernandez
Posted by mrsBLT
i'm not not clam. and i didn't fall. in fact, i just rose even higher thanks to that invaluable degree
I'm not a clam either.
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| Posted 11/10/11 9:16 PM |
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KennysMommy
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal? (includes Grand Jury Report)
Thanks for posting - I just read all 23 pages. I am DISGUSTED!!!
But one question kept popping in my head: How and why were young boys allowed to be ALONE with this man? In his car? Sleeping over his house? In the locker room? That part still boggles my mind. I would NEVER let DS go ANYWHERE with a man alone. I don't care WHO he is! Why were they allowed? I'm not blaming parents, but I'm just shocked he was given that opportunity on so many occasions!
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal? (includes Grand Jury Report)
Posted by My2Girlz11
This is about boys being molested. PERIOD. I really wish people who went or are going would stop making about them. I don't care who attended the school and who still is. I do care that people are almost acting like they are the victims here. The kids that go to the school look like idiots protesting the coaches removal. He helped and turned a blind eye to hurting young boys. I am sure he has done good in his life. At this point, it really doesn't do much good to the 9 boys (so far) that could have had a different life.
Well said!
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HeathKernandez
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal? (includes Grand Jury Report)
you guys know the REAL problem is...
Mike McQueary has red hair.
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| Posted 11/10/11 9:18 PM |
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mrsBLT
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal? (includes Grand Jury Report)
Posted by HeathKernandez
Posted by mrsBLT
i just rose even higher thanks to that invaluable degree
I hate to say this, because I SYMPATHIZE with outraged students... but this is going to demolish Penn State's reputation if they find out more "higher ups" knew about this and didn't say anything.
Its the truth and I would NOT be calm... I'd be very upset.
if there's one thing i've learned in life thus far, it's to not be upset over things you can't control...and this i can't control so why waste my time being upset?
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mrsBLT
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal? (includes Grand Jury Report)
Posted by KennysMommy
Thanks for posting - I just read all 23 pages. I am DISGUSTED!!!
But one question kept popping in my head: How and why were young boys allowed to be ALONE with this man? In his car? Sleeping over his house? In the locker room? That part still boggles my mind. I would NEVER let DS go ANYWHERE with a man alone. I don't care WHO he is! Why were they allowed? I'm not blaming parents, but I'm just shocked he was given that opportunity on so many occasions!
unfortunately, these were boys with troubled lives - boys with no fathers, parents who worked 3420498234 jobs and were hardly ever home, etc. so i don't think there was much (if any) parental supervision. i think the parents trusted him bc of the foundation. he abused his position and abused those poor boys 
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HeathKernandez
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal? (includes Grand Jury Report)
Posted by KennysMommy
Thanks for posting - I just read all 23 pages. I am DISGUSTED!!!
But one question kept popping in my head: How and why were young boys allowed to be ALONE with this man? In his car? Sleeping over his house? In the locker room? That part still boggles my mind. I would NEVER let DS go ANYWHERE with a man alone. I don't care WHO he is! Why were they allowed? I'm not blaming parents, but I'm just shocked he was given that opportunity on so many occasions!
He founded a charity for underprivileged children.... Unfortunately these children probably didn't have anyone really caring for them to begin with... 
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| Posted 11/10/11 9:20 PM |
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mrsBLT
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal? (includes Grand Jury Report)
Posted by HeathKernandez
you guys know the REAL problem is...
Mike McQueary has red hair.
and looks like a hobbit 
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| Posted 11/10/11 9:21 PM |
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KennysMommy
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal? (includes Grand Jury Report)
Posted by HeathKernandez
Posted by KennysMommy
Thanks for posting - I just read all 23 pages. I am DISGUSTED!!!
But one question kept popping in my head: How and why were young boys allowed to be ALONE with this man? In his car? Sleeping over his house? In the locker room? That part still boggles my mind. I would NEVER let DS go ANYWHERE with a man alone. I don't care WHO he is! Why were they allowed? I'm not blaming parents, but I'm just shocked he was given that opportunity on so many occasions!
He founded a charity for underprivileged children.... Unfortunately these children probably didn't have anyone really caring for them to begin with...
I know and that makes me even more sad. Unfortunately, it would've happened one way or another, most likely. I feel so sad for them!
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal? (includes Grand Jury Report)
Posted by HeathKernandez
Posted by mrsBLT
i just rose even higher thanks to that invaluable degree
I hate to say this, because I SYMPATHIZE with outraged students... but this is going to demolish Penn State's reputation if they find out more "higher ups" knew about this and didn't say anything.
Its the truth and I would NOT be calm... I'd be very upset.
ITA, if I went there or was a grad from there, I'd be outraged that my beloved institute was a farce. And FTR, I NEVER thought of Penn State as a stellar academic school--sports yes, academia? No. Notre Dame has both, Ivy leagues have stellar academia. After this news, they might not even have the sports part anymore. JMO!
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