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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal? (includes Grand Jury Report)
Posted by nrthshgrl
Sickening, isn't it? I strongly suggest reading through it because it does give a full picture of the eyewitnesses' actions. Also found it interesting how little media play was given to the fact that Sandusky, his wife & his friend all reached out to one of the victims before he was scheduled to testify at the Grand Jury hearing.
I read it and I'm even more disgusted than I was before, if that's even possible.
I also don't think it's a coincidence that victim 7, who was contacted by Sandusky, his wife and their friend has only a "blurry memory" of some contact with Sandusky in the showers but is unable to recall it clearly. 
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal? (includes Grand Jury Report)
Posted by LadyBugN2Buggies
just released on TMZ....first photo of him since scandal broke:
he look so blasé, snacking on something.
Where was this taken? It looks like the waiting area of an airport.
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal? (includes Grand Jury Report)
Posted by Jennie0898
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Forgive me if this has already been addressed because I haven't read this entire thread.
Where were the parents of these children? Why did they allow some man to be in contact with their children alone? I can't imagine allowing my young child to go off with anyone by themselves, male or female.
How did this guy have access to so many children?
The children abused were part of Sandusky's Second Mile program. They come from under privileged homes, often there is only a single parent, if any. They have very little supervision in their lives.
The program was meant to serve these kids and help them. Not destroy them.
There has been talk on 'sports radio' that some of the parents may have even known about the 'pimping out'. I hope and pray this rumor to be untrue.
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal? (includes Grand Jury Report)
Posted by Babyaholic
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Posted by neener1211
Forgive me if this has already been addressed because I haven't read this entire thread.
Where were the parents of these children? Why did they allow some man to be in contact with their children alone? I can't imagine allowing my young child to go off with anyone by themselves, male or female.
How did this guy have access to so many children?
The children abused were part of Sandusky's Second Mile program. They come from under privileged homes, often there is only a single parent, if any. They have very little supervision in their lives.
The program was meant to serve these kids and help them. Not destroy them.
There has been talk on 'sports radio' that some of the parents may have even known about the 'pimping out'. I hope and pray this rumor to be untrue.
Dear god, I hope that isn't true. I can't even fathom a parent pimping out their son. For that matter I can't imagine ANYONE doing that to another human being, period.
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal? (includes Grand Jury Report)
This article is great! Exactly how I feel!
The problem can't be solved by prayer or piety (Penn State)
It was midway through the pregame prayer session that the gorge hit high tide. There is always something a little nauseating in large spectacles of conspicuous public piety, but watching everyone on the field take a knee before the Penn State-Nebraska game, and listening to the commentary about how devoutly everybody was praying for the victims at Penn State, was enough to get me reaching for a bucket and a Bible all at once.
It was as though the players and coaches had devised some sort of new training regimen to get past the awful reality of what had happened. Prayer as a new form of two-a-days. Jesus is my strength coach. Contrition in the context of a football game seemed almost obscene in its obvious vanity.
So, when the feeling had subsided somewhat, I dropped by the sixth chapter of Matthew, and then I went on to the Teacher in Ecclesiastes, who warned his people:
For God will bring every deed into judgment, including every hidden thing, whether it is good or evil.
And I felt better, but not much. There is solace in Scripture, but there are also too many places where the guilty and the morally obtuse can hide.
The crimes at Penn State are about the raping of children. That is all they are about. The crimes at Penn State are about the raping of children by Jerry Sandusky, and the possibility that people lied to a grand jury about the raping of children by Jerry Sandusky, and the likelihood that most of the people who had the authority at Penn State to stop the raping of children by Jerry Sandusky proved themselves to have the moral backbone of ribbon worms.
It no longer matters if there continues to be a football program at Penn State. It no longer even matters if there continues to be a university there at all. All of these considerations are trivial by comparison to what went on in and around the Penn State football program.
(Those people who will pass this off as an overreaction would do well to remember that the Roman Catholic Church is reckoned to be a far more durable institution than even Penn State University is, and the Church has
spent the past decade or so selling off its various franchise properties all over the world to pay off the tsunami of civil judgments resulting from the raping of children, a cascade that shows no signs of abating anytime soon.)
There will now be a decade or more of criminal trials, and perhaps a quarter-century or more of civil actions, as a result of what went on at Penn State. These things cannot be prayed away. Let us hear nothing about "closure" or about "moving on." And God help us, let us not hear a single mumbling word about how football can help the university "heal." (Lord, let the Alamo Bowl be an instrument of your peace.) This wound should be left open and gaping and raw until the very last of the children that Jerry Sandusky is accused of raping somehow gets whatever modicum of peace and retribution can possibly be granted to him. This wound should be left open and gaping and raw in the bright sunlight where everybody can see it, for years and years and years, until the raped children themselves decide that justice has been done. When they're done healing — if they're ever done healing — then they and their families can give Penn State permission to start.
If that blights Joe Paterno's declining years, that's too bad. If that takes a chunk out of the endowment, hold a damn bake sale. If that means that Penn State spends some time being known as the university where a child got raped, that's what happens when you're a university where a child got raped.
Any sympathy for this institution went down the drain in the shower room in the Lasch Building. There's nothing that can happen to the university, or to the people sunk up to their eyeballs in this incredible moral quagmire, that's worse than what happened to the children who got raped at Penn State. Good Lord, people, get up off your knees and get over yourselves.
There is something to be said, however, for looking at how it happened. Which is not the same thing as trying to figure out how it "could" have happened. The wonder is that it doesn't happen more often.
(How many football coaches out there work with "at-risk" kids? How many shoes are there still to drop? Unfair? Ask one Bernard Law, once cardinal archbishop of Boston, if you can pry him out of his current position at the Basilica of Our Lady of the Clean Getaway in Rome.)
It happens because institutions lie. And today, our major institutions lie because of a culture in which loyalty to "the company," and protection of "the brand" — that noxious business-school shibboleth that turns employees into brainlocked elements of sales and marketing campaigns — trumps conventional morality, traditional ethics, civil liberties, and even adherence to the rule of law. It is better to protect "the brand" than it is to protect free speech, the right to privacy, or even to protect children.
If Mike McQueary had seen a child being raped in a boardroom or a storeroom, he wouldn't have been any more likely to have stopped it, or to have called the cops, than he was as a graduate assistant football coach at Penn State. With unemployment edging toward double digits, and only about 10 percent of the workforce unionized, every American who works for a major company knows the penalty for exercising his personal freedom, or his personal morality, at the expense of "the company." Independent thought is discouraged. Independent action is usually crushed. Nobody wants to damage the brand. Your supervisor might find out, and his primary loyalty is to the company. Which is why he got promoted to be your supervisor in the first place.
Further, the institutions of college athletics exist primarily as unreality fueled by deceit. The unreality is that universities should be in the business of providing large spectacles of mass entertainment. The fundamental absurdity of that notion requires the promulgation of the various deceits necessary to carry it out. The "student- athlete," just to name one. "Amateurism," just to name another. Of course, people involved in Penn State football
allegedly deceived people when it became plain that children had been raped within the program's facilities by one of the program's employees. It was simply one more lie to maintain the preposterously lucrative unreality of college athletics.
And to think, the players at Ohio State became pariahs because of tattoos and memorabilia sales.
By an order of magnitude, the Penn State child-raping scandal is miles beyond anything that ever happened with the Ohio State football team over the past five years, miles beyond anything that happened with the SMU football team in the 1980s, and miles beyond anything that happened with the point-shaving scandals in college basketball. It is not a failure of our institutions so much as it is a window into what they have become — soulless, profit-driven monsters, Darwinian predators with precious little humanity left in them. Penn State is only the most recent example. Too much of this country is too big to fail.
On July 20, Enda Kenny, Taoiseach of the Republic of Ireland, rose before the Dail Eireann and excoriated the Vatican and the institutional Roman Catholic Church for the horrors inflicted on generations of Irish children, horrors that they both committed and condoned. This was an act of considerable political courage for Kenny. The influence of the Church had been a deadweight on Irish politics and the secular government since the country first gained its freedom in the 1920s.
Nevertheless, Kenny said:
He did not drop to his knees. He did not ask for a moment of silence. He did not seek "closure" but, rather, he demanded the hard and bitter truth of it, and he demanded it from men steeped in deceit from their purple carpet slippers to their red beanies. Enda Kenny did not look to bind up wounds before they could be cleansed. And that is the only way to talk about what happens after the raping of children.
Charles P. Pierce is a staff writer for Grantland and the author of Idiot America(http://www.amazon.com/Idiot- America-Stupidity-Became-Virtue/dp/0767926145). He writes regularly for Esquire , is the lead writer for Esquire.com's Politics blog, and is a frequent guest on NPR.
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal? (includes Grand Jury Report)
Amen! Great piece...
This quote sums it up for me...
It happens because institutions lie. And today, our major institutions lie because of a culture in which loyalty to "the company," and protection of "the brand" — that noxious business-school shibboleth that turns employees into brainlocked elements of sales and marketing campaigns — trumps conventional morality, traditional ethics, civil liberties, and even adherence to the rule of law. It is better to protect "the brand" than it is to protect free speech, the right to privacy, or even to protect children.
So unbelievably sad, but true.
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal? (includes Grand Jury Report)
Posted by Jennie0898
Amen! Great piece...
This quote sums it up for me...
It happens because institutions lie. And today, our major institutions lie because of a culture in which loyalty to "the company," and protection of "the brand" — that noxious business-school shibboleth that turns employees into brainlocked elements of sales and marketing campaigns — trumps conventional morality, traditional ethics, civil liberties, and even adherence to the rule of law. It is better to protect "the brand" than it is to protect free speech, the right to privacy, or even to protect children.
So unbelievably sad, but true.
Exactly...and I'll expand on the free speech part and say this is why education and thinking for yourself is so important! Don't become the sheep!
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal? (includes Grand Jury Report)
Posted by brownie
Posted by Jennie0898
Amen! Great piece...
This quote sums it up for me...
It happens because institutions lie. And today, our major institutions lie because of a culture in which loyalty to "the company," and protection of "the brand" — that noxious business-school shibboleth that turns employees into brainlocked elements of sales and marketing campaigns — trumps conventional morality, traditional ethics, civil liberties, and even adherence to the rule of law. It is better to protect "the brand" than it is to protect free speech, the right to privacy, or even to protect children.
So unbelievably sad, but true.
Exactly...and I'll expand on the free speech part and say this is why education and thinking for yourself is so important! Don't become the sheep!
You're absolutely right.
It's scary, it's as though the supporters of Sandusky are brainwashed.
I'd like to add that I think what's horribly sad, is the power of the almighty buck. IMO that's ultimately the catalyst for this entire cover up.
That sick sonovabitch got away with one of the most heinous crimes another human could perpetrate because he brought in money.
It's sickening.
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal? (includes Grand Jury Report)
Posted by brownie
The crimes at Penn State are about the raping of children. That is all they are about. The crimes at Penn State are about the raping of children by Jerry Sandusky, and the possibility that people lied to a grand jury about the raping of children by Jerry Sandusky, and the likelihood that most of the people who had the authority at Penn State to stop the raping of children by Jerry Sandusky proved themselves to have the moral backbone of ribbon worms.
This, exactly this. Sorry to PSU and the innocent students, alumni, faculty & staff but CHILDREN WERE RAPED IN YOUR BUILDINGS. CHILDREN WERE RAPED.
It no longer matters if there continues to be a football program at Penn State. It no longer even matters if there continues to be a university there at all. All of these considerations are trivial by comparison to what went on in and around the Penn State football program.
Exactly....
Football is not important here. CHILDREN'S LIVES were destroyed by a man who was employed there, on University property and COVERED up by it's administration.
Each of Sandusky's victims were on that field for a reason. TO BE SEXUALLY ASSAULTED by him.
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal? (includes Grand Jury Report)
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Posted by LadyBugN2Buggies
just released on TMZ....first photo of him since scandal broke:
he look so blasé, snacking on something.
Where was this taken? It looks like the waiting area of an airport.
Taken at LaGuardia Airport This mofo was right here in NY!
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal? (includes Grand Jury Report)
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Posted by Jennie0898
Posted by LadyBugN2Buggies
just released on TMZ....first photo of him since scandal broke:
he look so blasé, snacking on something.
Where was this taken? It looks like the waiting area of an airport.
Taken at LaGuardia Airport This mofo was right here in NY!
Why is he here? Sick that he is allowed to travel out with the rest of society
I think this has done so much damage to the school's reputation overall, if I went there I'd be so angry at the administration for allowing this to happen
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal? (includes Grand Jury Report)
Posted by brownie
Posted by MC09
Posted by Jennie0898
Posted by LadyBugN2Buggies
just released on TMZ....first photo of him since scandal broke:
he look so blasé, snacking on something.
Where was this taken? It looks like the waiting area of an airport.
Taken at LaGuardia Airport This mofo was right here in NY!
Why is he here? Sick that he is allowed to travel out with the rest of society
I think this has done so much damage to the school's reputation overall, if I went there I'd be so angry at the administration for allowing this to happen
I didn't think you were allowed to leave the state if you were out on bail?
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal? (includes Grand Jury Report)
TMZ is now claiming that's not him? I don't know it's weird.
Sandusky is appearing on RockCenter tonight being interviewed by Bob Costas.
Rock Center
DEVELOPING: Former Penn State coach Jerry Sandusky admitted to showering and horsing around with young boys but said he is not a pedophile in an exclusive interview with Bob Costas for NBC News' Rock Center airing tonight at 10 pm/9 CT.
"I say that I am innocent of those charges," said Sandusky in a phone interview with Costas.
When asked by Costas, "Are you a pedophile," Sandusky responded "No."
Joe Paterno’s one time defensive coordinator was charged earlier this month with 40 counts of sexually abusing eight boys. He is currently free on a $100,000 bond and has denied any wrongdoing. The allegations date back to 1994, according to a grand jury report. A grand jury report detailed claims of alleged sexual encounters with young boys in Sandusky's home, hotels and Penn State locker rooms.
"I could say that I have done some of those things. I have horsed around with kids I have showered after workouts. I have hugged them and I have touched their legs without intent of sexual contact," said Sandusky.
When pressed by Costas about what Sandusky was willing to concede that he'd done was wrong, Sandusky said, "I shouldn't have showered with those kids."
The scandal has tarnished the reputation of the once heralded football program, leading to the departure of coaching legend Paterno and three other university officials. It’s also left students and residents of State College, Penn., shocked.
The sight of the 67-year-old Sandusky in handcuffs is hard to reconcile with his public image of a devoted father of six adopted kids who founded a charity to help at risk youth. That charity, The Second Mile, has also come under fire.
All of the alleged sex abuse victims met Sandusky through their participation in The Second Mile. Sandusky founded the charity in 1977 as a group foster home for troubled boys. It spawned into a non-profit organization that has raised millions of dollars to help young boys and girls. Today, Chief Executive Officer Jack Raykovitz’s resignation was announced by the non-profit organization’s board of directors. Grand jury testimony alleges that Raykovitz was aware of at least one of the allegations against Sandusky.
In an NBC News interview from 1987, Sandusky joked that he started The Second Mile because he was a “frustrated playground director.”
“I enjoy being around children. I enjoy their enthusiasm. I just have a good time with them,” Sandusky said.
Sandusky gave up his day to day duties at the organization in 2010. By that time, at least two people had allegedly witnessed Sandusky sexually abusing two different boys in showers on Penn State’s campus, according to a grand jury report.
While Sandusky retired as a coach at Pennsylvania State University in 1999, he continued to have access to Penn State’s facilities. In 2002, he was banned from bringing minors to campus athletic facilities after then graduate student Mike McQueary allegedly witnessed Sandusky molesting a boy, according to the grand jury report. The incident was never reported to police or investigated by university police. Sandusky allegedly violated the order not to bring minors to campus by bringing at least one victim to the campus after 2002, according to the grand jury report.
The alleged victims testified that they were abused in hotel rooms, Sandusky’s own home and on Penn State’s campus. Some victims testified that Sandusky would visit them frequently at their schools when they didn’t return his phone calls, according to the grand jury report.
Editor's note: Bob Costas' exclusive interview airs on Rock Center tonight at 10pm/9 CT on NBC.
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal? (includes Grand Jury Report)
Posted by colette
TMZ is now claiming that's not him? I don't know it's weird.
Sandusky is appearing on RockCenter tonight being interviewed by Bob Costas.
Rock Center
Fox News had reported he was at LaGuardia today... they referenced this same TMZ photo... I also just saw on ESPN that he is appearing on Rock Center. I can't believe this child predator is just allowed to go about freely.
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal? (includes Grand Jury Report)
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Posted by brownie
Posted by MC09
Posted by Jennie0898
Posted by LadyBugN2Buggies
just released on TMZ....first photo of him since scandal broke:
he look so blasé, snacking on something.
Where was this taken? It looks like the waiting area of an airport.
Taken at LaGuardia Airport This mofo was right here in NY!
Why is he here? Sick that he is allowed to travel out with the rest of society
I think this has done so much damage to the school's reputation overall, if I went there I'd be so angry at the administration for allowing this to happen
I didn't think you were allowed to leave the state if you were out on bail?
He seems to be getting all sorts of special treatment.
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal? (includes Grand Jury Report)
Posted by MC09
Posted by colette
TMZ is now claiming that's not him? I don't know it's weird.
Sandusky is appearing on RockCenter tonight being interviewed by Bob Costas.
Rock Center
Fox News had reported he was at LaGuardia today... they referenced this same TMZ photo... I also just saw on ESPN that he is appearing on Rock Center. I can't believe this child predator is just allowed to go about freely.
fox news reported it wasn't him on the 10:00 news last night. he's not allowed to leave the state of pennsylvania, but he's allowed to do whatever the f he pleases while there
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal? (updated Sandusky interview with Bob Costas link)
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Posted by MC09
Posted by colette
TMZ is now claiming that's not him? I don't know it's weird.
Sandusky is appearing on RockCenter tonight being interviewed by Bob Costas.
Rock Center
Fox News had reported he was at LaGuardia today... they referenced this same TMZ photo... I also just saw on ESPN that he is appearing on Rock Center. I can't believe this child predator is just allowed to go about freely.
fox news reported it wasn't him on the 10:00 news last night. he's not allowed to leave the state of pennsylvania, but he's allowed to do whatever the f he pleases while there
TMZ said it was not him.
I think the only good thing that will come out of this is that PA will really look at its Child Protective Services Law, which only requires someone that is a witness to child abuse to report it to a supervisor. I am sure it will soon make it a requirement to go to the police. While everyone is yelling at McQueary and Paterno, which I understand b/c they morally/ethically dropped the ball, people should be focusing on this horribly lenient law.
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal? (updated Sandusky interview with Bob Costas link)
Great op-ed piece from the NY times (the school is morally bankrupt)
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal? (updated Sandusky interview with Bob Costas link)
Brownie-great article. Thanks for posting.
Jennie-we call it the "sheeple" at our house
Seriously this is the most sickening case of bystander apathy I've ever seen. Someone else will do the right thing. I'll do the bare minimum-wouldn;t want to tarnish the Lions' name with rape
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal? (updated Sandusky interview with Bob Costas link)
Posted by DRMom
Brownie-great article. Thanks for posting.
Jennie-we call it the "sheeple" at our house
Seriously this is the most sickening case of bystander apathy I've ever seen. Someone else will do the right thing. I'll do the bare minimum-wouldn;t want to tarnish the Lions' name with rape
Agreed, EXCELLENT piece, Brownie.
Sheeple, I like it
It's sad, but Penn State football is what the majority of the people in the college and who live in State College live for. It's a way of life, it's what they eat, sleep and breathe. The fact that there were people in the stands at that game still upset for Joe Pa and his firing and NOT for the poor abused kids is a sad reminder of their very skewed priorities.
Believe it or not, Penn Staters, there IS more to life than the Nittany Lions, Joe Pa and football.
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal? (updated Sandusky interview with Bob Costas link)
another great op-ed article, also from the NY Times
here
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal? (updated Sandusky interview with Bob Costas link)
Posted by mrsBLT
another great op-ed article, also from the NY Times
here
It doesn't take much to make an anonymous phone call to police if you're too much of a pansyass to go directly to them and report it.
I can say with 100% absolute certainty I would have taken the moral high road and done the right thing.
If that makes me vain, then so be it, I'll live with that moniker.
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal? (updated Sandusky interview with Bob Costas link)
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Posted by mrsBLT
another great op-ed article, also from the NY Times
here
It doesn't take much to make an anonymous phone call to police if you're too much of a pansyass to go directly to them and report it.
I can say with 100% absolute certainty I would have taken the moral high road and done the right thing.
If that makes me vain, then so be it, I'll live with that moniker.
i didn't say i wouldn't do the same. i just said it's another great OPINION piece with a different stance...
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal? (updated Sandusky interview with Bob Costas link)
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Posted by Jennie0898
Posted by mrsBLT
another great op-ed article, also from the NY Times
here
It doesn't take much to make an anonymous phone call to police if you're too much of a pansyass to go directly to them and report it.
I can say with 100% absolute certainty I would have taken the moral high road and done the right thing.
If that makes me vain, then so be it, I'll live with that moniker.
i didn't say i wouldn't do the same. i just said it's another great OPINION piece with a different stance...
Can't say I recall saying you wouldn't do the same. I was addressing the op-ed piece, not you. 
And technically, you didn't say it was coming from a different point of view, but coming from you, I already knew it would be.
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Re: Did we discuss the Penn State scandal? (updated Sandusky interview with Bob Costas link)
Posted by Jennie0898
Posted by mrsBLT
Posted by Jennie0898
Posted by mrsBLT
another great op-ed article, also from the NY Times
here
It doesn't take much to make an anonymous phone call to police if you're too much of a pansyass to go directly to them and report it.
I can say with 100% absolute certainty I would have taken the moral high road and done the right thing.
If that makes me vain, then so be it, I'll live with that moniker.
i didn't say i wouldn't do the same. i just said it's another great OPINION piece with a different stance...
Can't say I recall saying you wouldn't do the same. I was addressing the op-ed piece, not you.
And technically, you didn't say it was coming from a different point of view, but coming from you, I already knew it would be.
When all is said and done, it will take the school a LONG time to build up its reputation again. IMO (and many others too apparently) playing a football game right after this all came out just looks bad. Yeah you can be technical about how they have the right to play, but its definitely NOT helping the school's reputation any.
But this is all secondary still to the victims. The anger of Penn State students/alumni/employees should be re-directed towards their beloved University for allowing this to happen.
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