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Re: what is a fair amount
40/day.
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Hofstra26
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Re: what is a fair amount
Posted by lcherian
40/day.
To watch someone's kid for 10 hrs/day???? $40 is way too low........that equates to only like $4/hr. You couldn't even get a HS kid to watch your child for that price.
I wouldn't offer her less than $75/day..........and even that only equates to around $7.50/hr. Don't lowball her, she's your friend..........you don't want to insult her and make it awkward. KWIM?
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Re: what is a fair amount
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by lcherian
40/day.
To watch someone's kid for 10 hrs/day???? $40 is way too low........that equates to only like $4/hr. You couldn't even get a HS kid to watch your child for that price.
I wouldn't offer her less than $75/day..........and even that only equates to around $7.50/hr. Don't lowball her, she's your friend..........you don't want to insult her and make it awkward. KWIM?
$75/day - That is $375 a week. I don't even pay that much and my DS is at a center (granted I don't live on LI, but still!)
I'd think somewhere $50-55 per kid per day.
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curley999
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Re: what is a fair amount
I paid someone $50 a day to watch my daughter in their home from the time she was 3 months until 5 years old. On the rare times I had both my kids there I paid her $80 for the day.
I would expect anywhere from $40-$60 a day for that arrangment
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Re: what is a fair amount
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Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by lcherian
40/day.
To watch someone's kid for 10 hrs/day???? $40 is way too low........that equates to only like $4/hr. You couldn't even get a HS kid to watch your child for that price.
I wouldn't offer her less than $75/day..........and even that only equates to around $7.50/hr. Don't lowball her, she's your friend..........you don't want to insult her and make it awkward. KWIM?
$75/day - That is $375 a week. I don't even pay that much and my DS is at a center (granted I don't live on LI, but still!)
I'd think somewhere $50-55 per kid per day.
this is where my problem is. I will not pay her $75 a day I can send my DD to a camp for like $20 more a week with before and after care included and I would just do that. while she will have fun at my friends yes but she would have more fun at camp.
I don't want to insult her but she knows I am considering her cause I don't want to pay for camp prices and I know she wants/can use the extra money
ETA: it really will be adding another kid to what she would be doing on a normal basis having my kid will not stop her from doing what she would normally do. she will be allowed to take her where ever she would be planning on taking her kids and if it cost money I would pay for it.
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BargainMama
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Re: what is a fair amount
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by lcherian
40/day.
To watch someone's kid for 10 hrs/day???? $40 is way too low........that equates to only like $4/hr. You couldn't even get a HS kid to watch your child for that price.
I wouldn't offer her less than $75/day..........and even that only equates to around $7.50/hr. Don't lowball her, she's your friend..........you don't want to insult her and make it awkward. KWIM?
For an entire day, you typically don't pay someone by the hour. It's usually a flat rate. I've never heard of a home daycare that charges $75 a day. An occasional night out for a babysitter, yes by the hour. This is more of a "salary" with set hours. $200 a week to watch a 5 year old off the books in addition to your own children being there, is not unreasonable at all.
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Re: what is a fair amount
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by lcherian
40/day.
To watch someone's kid for 10 hrs/day???? $40 is way too low........that equates to only like $4/hr. You couldn't even get a HS kid to watch your child for that price.
I wouldn't offer her less than $75/day..........and even that only equates to around $7.50/hr. Don't lowball her, she's your friend..........you don't want to insult her and make it awkward. KWIM?
I would say in the $40-$50 range because you are dropping at her house while she still have her kids. If she was coming to your house and watching only your child, I would say a higher amount.
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hunnybunnyxoxo
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what is a fair amount
does she have a price in mind?
to me , it is a numbers game. IF she were only watching the kids 1 day a week, maybe I would pay her more for the day to make it worth the effort, but since it would be 5 days a week, well, then maybe you guys can come up with a fair price.
$250-$300 a week
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Posted by BargainMama
These prices are INSANE. We are talking about a SAHM watching another child in addition to her own, so it's not one on one care like a nanny or a babysitter that comes to your house.
For an in home LICENSED family daycare, they charge $45-$50 a day for a FULL day. I wouldn't pay more than that for a SAHM to watch my 5 year old.
I agree with this. My girlfriend watched a little boy in her home while her girls were also home. When broken down-she was getting $6 an hour.
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Hofstra26
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Re: what is a fair amount
Posted by BargainMama
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by lcherian
40/day.
To watch someone's kid for 10 hrs/day???? $40 is way too low........that equates to only like $4/hr. You couldn't even get a HS kid to watch your child for that price.
I wouldn't offer her less than $75/day..........and even that only equates to around $7.50/hr. Don't lowball her, she's your friend..........you don't want to insult her and make it awkward. KWIM?
For an entire day, you typically don't pay someone by the hour. It's usually a flat rate. I've never heard of a home daycare that charges $75 a day. An occasional night out for a babysitter, yes by the hour. This is more of a "salary" with set hours. $200 a week to watch a 5 year old off the books in addition to your own children being there, is not unreasonable at all.
I understand that. I've watched 3 different kids in my house (along with my own children) for less hours than the OP is asking for and I've never made less than $60-90/day. I wouldn't want to watch someone's kid for 10 hours for only $40/day. That a BIG time commitment every day for very little money. If her friend will go for it, great. I wouldn't do it for that little. JMO.
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Kitten1929
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what is a fair amount
If was a SAHM, and a friend needed childcare help, I would help her out.
I would charge something minimal. Because I'm a friend helping out a friend. I wouldn't be looking to rip her off or make it worth my while. If I had the ability, I would do whatever necessary to help her out. Because I know how expensive childcare is. So if I could help someone out and relieve some of that exorbitant cost, I would. I can't imagine accepting more than say $200 for the week. And if it were someone I'm close with, I probably wouldn't charge anything. I really can't wrap my brain around someone expecting some kind of full time salary while watching their own children.
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jellybean78
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what is a fair amount
For two kids that age $400 a week tops for in home day care not licensed. Some of these other numbers thrown out there are bat shit. For those other amounts you go to a licensed center and get the tax credit at tax time.
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Re: what is a fair amount
Posted by blu6385
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In my experience you will pay a lot more for a person vs. a camp or a daycare, etc.
I had a sitter who watched my DS 1-2 hours a day, 5 days a week, I paid her $100 a week or $20 a day. There had to be some incentive for her to want to do it. Meanwhile, he also went to aftercare and that was $205 a MONTH.
that's crazy camp is cheaper and to say that that's sad and daycare is cheaper.
these people getting paid off the books and I cant claim it so I am loosing out on my tax break. To have to pay someone that much money is insane to me, sorry. if it was on the books I would maybe consider paying that much but its doubtful.
I get if its not a full day to do hourly but IMO when its a full day it should not be hourly at all. home day cares are not hourly and this what this situation is basically expect its not a licensed off the book one. I am just really surprised people don't see it the way I do.
It sucks. My DS goes to camp through his aftercare program and it is $700 a summer with late pick up.
The reason why I wrote it the way that I did ($20/day or $100 a week) is because she was only 1-2 hours a day, and $20 a day doesn't sound bad, but for what it was, it was costly.
Idk what someone would consider fair - I just wouldn't necessarily offer someone $40 a day for a full day. That's why it sucks, lol.
ETA: My DS is older, 8, and I also prefer camp/aftercare because there are other kids and activities, not to say your friend wouldn't do stuff, but you know what I am getting at...
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2girls2love
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Re: what is a fair amount
We had a sitter come to our house.
So, for my twin daughters we paid $20 per hour.
Then at Christmas and July 4 she got paid $500.
We had her for 2 years. Then our needs changed.
Listen....
I think Child Care is extremely important. Myself and my husband are professional and we expected the same from our sitter.
Keep it in mind:
She came to our house.
She would work Sundays
And, sometimes I got stuck @ work on overtime - so she didn't always go home on time.
And our days were scattered - some weeks we only needed her 2x a week.
Then if there was snow, we had my mom sit- so she would be out the money.
No regrets, we completely trusted her and believe our twin daughters were well taken care of.
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JSDB
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Re: what is a fair amount
It's a tough situation. If she already has 3 kids of her own its not like my kid would be getting 1-on-1 attention all day so I would expect to pay less than a childcare provider/nanny who would. I would also have the hassle of pickup/dropoff rather than someone coming to my house so that would factor in as well.
I dont really know the answer, all I can say is that if we were looking at the numbers being thrown around here I would much rather have someone caring specifically for my kids at my own home or send them to a camp before I would pay that kind of money for a SAHM with 3 kids of her own to watch them. Also, does she have a vehicle big enough to transport 4-5 kids? Or would they be stuck home all summer?
Its hard to strike a balance because I think it should be discounted from a traditional provider but also has to be worth her time. Maybe you could send them to her 2x a week and to camp 3x a week?
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alli3131
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what is a fair amount
There is not what is fair answer. Fair is very relative. You clearly have a number is your head so just put it out there to your friend. IF she thinks its not enough then she will say no.
Plain and simple fair is what you want to pay and what she will accept.
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MarisaK
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Re: what is a fair amount
it's relative - Like Hofstra said, it has to 'worth her while' and I have to agree.
If I were a SAHM, it would be one thing to be helping out a freind in a pinch, on occassion, or once a week - but, for ALL day child care, 5 days a week, there would have to be an incentive for ME to have another kid (or 2, especially a 2 year old) around ALL SUMMER as your main childcare source.
Say camp is $4k for 8 weeks for one kid - It sounds OBSCENE ........but, when you break it down, that's $500 a week, which is $100 a day, which is, for an 8 hour day, $12.50/hr. - So OK, it's not worth it to pay someone that amount to be in their home not doing all of the 'camp' stuff they do at camp all day - TOTALLY agree w/ you on that - BUT how MUCH less do you think it's worth?
I get where you're coming from re: you don't want to spend X amount on camp .....BUT, think about where SHE's coming from, like Hofstra said, it has to be worth my time. - and IMO, the fact that it's your friend throws a WHOLE new wrench in there. I wouldn't have my good friend as my main source of child care. JMO - mixing business and friendship is not a good idea
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Millie3
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Re: what is a fair amount
Posted by BargainMama
These prices are INSANE. We are talking about a SAHM watching another child in addition to her own, so it's not one on one care like a nanny or a babysitter that comes to your house.
For an in home LICENSED family daycare, they charge $45-$50 a day for a FULL day. I wouldn't pay more than that for a SAHM to watch my 5 year old.
Agree, it's outrageous. She has 3 kids, paid off the books, in her own home? There is no one on one attention. Way too much money
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jj8182
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Re: what is a fair amount
I'd say $250/week. For an extra kid, probably $300/week.
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Hofstra26
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Re: what is a fair amount
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it's relative - Like Hofstra said, it has to 'worth her while' and I have to agree.
If I were a SAHM, it would be one thing to be helping out a freind in a pinch, on occassion, or once a week - but, for ALL day child care, 5 days a week, there would have to be an incentive for ME to have another kid (or 2, especially a 2 year old) around ALL SUMMER as your main childcare source.
Say camp is $4k for 8 weeks for one kid - It sounds OBSCENE ........but, when you break it down, that's $500 a week, which is $100 a day, which is, for an 8 hour day, $12.50/hr. - So OK, it's not worth it to pay someone that amount to be in their home not doing all of the 'camp' stuff they do at camp all day - TOTALLY agree w/ you on that - BUT how MUCH less do you think it's worth?
I get where you're coming from re: you don't want to spend X amount on camp .....BUT, think about where SHE's coming from, like Hofstra said, it has to be worth my time. - and IMO, the fact that it's your friend throws a WHOLE new wrench in there. I wouldn't have my good friend as my main source of child care. JMO - mixing business and friendship is not a good idea
Exactly!
OP..........you're asking this woman to watch your TWO kids for FIFTY HOURS a week!!! 50 hours!!!! That's a FULL TIME job!!..........MORE than a full time job because even people who go to work average 40 hrs a week! It's not like she's just helping you out with a day or two here or there or just a few hours a day. This is for TEN hours a day, FIVE days a week and it's a big commitment one her end. She's adding two kids to her responsibilities and having your kids with her all day also hinders her day and her ability to get things done, go to appts, etc. If she's okay with that, awesome, but I think it's going to cost you. It's a lot of time that she's going to put into your children.
Regardless of the fact that it's her house and she is already home with her own kids, she's still giving you her time............50 hrs of time.........and IMO, you want to make sure you're compensating her adequately for her time and commitment to you. It should be less than a day care center but I think you're kidding yourself if $40/day is enough money to make it worth it for her. As someone who does in home care, it wouldn't be enough money for me for that kind of commitment..............friend or not.
Honestly, I think based off your comments and what (in your head) is a fair price, you should just put the kids in camp. I get the sense that this situation with your friend is probably not sitting right with you so maybe you need to just find alternative care. No matter where your kids are........in home care, camps, day care...........it's costly. It's not cheap finding good care for your child(ren). Good luck!
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Re: what is a fair amount
Ours was (still is, just not using her now) a great friend. We paid $60 a day for 8-4, she provided breakfast and lunch. off the books and she had her own kids there. She took them to the aquarium, etc. but would also take him on errands too.
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Re: what is a fair amount
Posted by Hofstra26
[Exactly!
OP..........you're asking this woman to watch your TWO kids for FIFTY HOURS a week!!! 50 hours!!!! That's a FULL TIME job!!..........MORE than a full time job because even people who go to work average 40 hrs a week! It's not like she's just helping you out with a day or two here or there or just a few hours a day. This is for TEN hours a day, FIVE days a week and it's a big commitment one her end. She's adding two kids to her responsibilities and having your kids with her all day also hinders her day and her ability to get things done, go to appts, etc. If she's okay with that, awesome, but I think it's going to cost you. It's a lot of time that she's going to put into your children.
Regardless of the fact that it's her house and she is already home with her own kids, she's still giving you her time............50 hrs of time.........and IMO, you want to make sure you're compensating her adequately for her time and commitment to you. It should be less than a day care center but I think you're kidding yourself if $40/day is enough money to make it worth it for her. As someone who does in home care, it wouldn't be enough money for me for that kind of commitment..............friend or not.
Honestly, I think based off your comments and what (in your head) is a fair price, you should just put the kids in camp. I get the sense that this situation with your friend is probably not sitting right with you so maybe you need to just find alternative care. No matter where your kids are........in home care, camps, day care...........it's costly. It's not cheap finding good care for your child(ren). Good luck!
I wouldn't pay $40 for two kids that's not what I am expecting and I know daycare cost a lot I am paying for it now.
yes its a full time job but if we want to make it a real full time job then her kids should not be there they should be somewhere else baby sitter camp etc. which of course would be costing money. so you don't think pay should encounter for the fact that she doesn't have to pay someone to watch her kids while she is working? and I am just generally curious I am not saying you are wrong or ganging up on you .
because if this was a full time job she would have to find child care for her kids. another thing 100% should be consider when giving a price.
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Re: what is a fair amount
Posted by MrsH2009
Ours was (still is, just not using her now) a great friend. We paid $60 a day for 8-4, she provided breakfast and lunch. off the books and she had her own kids there. She took them to the aquarium, etc. but would also take him on errands too.
was this for 2 kids? still debating If I am going to do both but it will most likely just be the one child which is the older one.
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blu6385
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Re: what is a fair amount
Posted by MarisaK
and IMO, the fact that it's your friend throws a WHOLE new wrench in there. I wouldn't have my good friend as my main source of child care. JMO - mixing business and friendship is not a good idea
this is exactly why I don't want to do this but she keep insisting and probably might feel a little insulted that I don't want too  and I know the extra income would be nice for her.
this is why I keep insisting on her giving me a number what she wants. and mainly because we have talked about this in the past for other people who have asked her to watch their children (and everyone is not the same as my situation; some where half days not every day; some where a couple of hours etc). I have told her my perspective on how much I would be willing to pay and others have told her numbers that were simply insane to ME which is why I wanted to see what others think.
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SecretlyTTC14
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Re: what is a fair amount
I think you should just tell her you decided to send the kids to camp for the experience and the activities. I get what your saying about the price. It def shouldn't be the same price as a licensed daycare or camp, but there's no polite way to tell someone that their time isn't worth as much as they think it is.
If she agrees to a lower price, she'll consider it a favor to you, and who wants to ask that of a friend. I've seen this scenario play out before (not personally, but a good friend went through this with a friend of hers) and it didn't end well.
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