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Re: Final Presidential Debate
Posted by EatingMyVeggies
I'm saddened that pro-life people are against IVF and other methods. I can respect their views on things but it's just sad to me to be against a loving mother desperately wanting a child and believing she needs to accept her fate. :(
(No snark intended.)
It doesn't make any sense to me. Why shouldn't we pursue all medical options available to us? When someone gets cancer no one says - oh that's what God wanted, don't get treatment.
Why shouldn't we all be able to use all of the medical advances we can?
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Re: Final Presidential Debate
Posted by JME78
Posted by EatingMyVeggies
I'm saddened that pro-life people are against IVF and other methods. I can respect their views on things but it's just sad to me to be against a loving mother desperately wanting a child and believing she needs to accept her fate. :(
(No snark intended.)
It doesn't make any sense to me. Why shouldn't we pursue all medical options available to us? When someone gets cancer no one says - oh that's what God wanted, don't get treatment.
Why shouldn't we all be able to use all of the medical advances we can?
Good point. And to make that case based on faith/religion and then try to mandate it to everyone (who may not be of the same faith or any at all) is hard for me to comprehend.
I do try to understand the opposing side. It's just hard.
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Re: Final Presidential Debate
Posted by Ian&EmmesMommy23
omg people! separation of church and state!! i'm a jew and my DH is agnostic...so christian beliefs have NOTHING to do with us. that's great that people of faith have beliefs and follow them (i'm genuinely not being sarcastic) but keep that shit away from me. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ME!
did everyone forget how our country was founded?? we wanted to get away from religious persecution. these topics have NO place in government.
I am a huge Bernie supporter so i obviously crawled into a hole and cried for awhile after he lost the primary. i toyed with the idea of voting 3rd party. but based on the statement hillary said last night "the united states government should not be stepping in and making those decisions"...i'm with her!
NO ONE has a right to tell me what to do with my body. I'm pro-choice...does not mean i'm pro-abortion. obviously no one wants to kill a fetus! but there are circumstances where it is necessary and no one is so high and f*cken mighty that they can judge another person on this decision.
i know i'm going on a rant but this is such a hot topic for me. like another poster said i wish the elections would stick to whats important. moral beliefs have NO PLACE IN GOVERNMENT!
OH! and "ripping a 9 month old fetus out of its mother" IS NOT A LATE TERM ABORTION!! its called a f*cken c-section and that baby will live! i can not believe people believed that shit he spewed out last night.
Yes, yes, Yes to all of this!
When I was pregnant with my son, I had a breast cancer scare. I was at the end of my first trimester with an 18mo to take care of, so it definitely brought up some scary questions of what would I do (I had always said I was pro choice but would never have an abortion, but I realized sometimes life isn't so black and white)
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Re: Final Presidential Debate
Posted by JME78
Posted by EatingMyVeggies
I'm saddened that pro-life people are against IVF and other methods. I can respect their views on things but it's just sad to me to be against a loving mother desperately wanting a child and believing she needs to accept her fate. :(
(No snark intended.)
It doesn't make any sense to me. Why shouldn't we pursue all medical options available to us? When someone gets cancer no one says - oh that's what God wanted, don't get treatment.
Why shouldn't we all be able to use all of the medical advances we can?
Bc according to people (not
You lol)
It's not a medical necessity. If I am unable to have kids deal with it
Same people who call my kids Frankenstein. Test tube babies. Science experiments I'm playing god
So then I ask them if you were blind and able to receive donor eyes and see again would you take it?
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Re: Final Presidential Debate
It is illegal in New York to have an elective abortion after 13 or 14 weeks. Up until 24 weeks (which is sometimes, by loophole, performed at 26 weeks gestation by clinics who measure by fetal age, or weeks from conception instead of last menstrual period) only if there is a medical reason such as a fetal anomaly or danger to the mother. Laws vary from state to state, but this is the case in the vast majority of them. You can read more about the differences here if you like.
That said, there have to be doctors willing to perform these abortions, and they have the same ethical hang-ups we do, so there is almost no one willing to perform an abortion after 24 weeks, and I would hate to trust that hack with my uterus, which is at a much more increased risk of scarring and rendering the mother infertile the later the termination.
The same goes for all this stuff about women using abortions as birth control: every time a woman has the procedure, her risk of irreparable scarring (Asherman's syndrome) goes up exponentially. There are natural, biological consequences to such frivolity.
Any pro-life legislation, such as the life-at-conception bill that the GOP wonder boy Paul Ryan advocated during the 2012 campaign, is indeed a slippery slope that threatens all reproductive rights. That bill, for example, would have made IVF nearly impossible because of the risk of unintentionally breaking the law by creating surplus embryos, which have not even implanted and have no heartbeat, are literally a ball of cells not so different from the foreskin we callously lop off boy's penises, if we're going by that logic. This flawed argument - that you heard one morally repugnant story about someone who ::whatever whatever:: means that you're willing to saddle millions of good people with suffering for years and years to come - is so beyond rational that I honestly wish pro-lifers would stop spouting emotionally manipulative rhetoric and look at the actual data that shows when most abortions typically happen and why.
I also get the sense that many pro-lifers are spouting that rhetoric from a position of PRIVILEGE: have never been roofied and raped in their first year in college like my co-worker's sister, who had an abortion so she could get her education without the ongoing psychological trauma; have never been knocked up and ditched by a man who promised everything and disappeared only to stare down the reality of supporting a child alone with no means like my best friend; have never sat in a doctor's office after conceiving on purpose after 5 grueling years of trying and been told that an unborn child they loved more than themselves was destined for little more than suffering like I did. I'll kindly thank people (especially the men in Congress and post-menopausal church ladies leading the charge against RvW) who have no stake in the game to stfu.
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Re: Final Presidential Debate
Posted by bookworm
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I also get the sense that many pro-lifers are spouting that rhetoric from a position of PRIVILEGE: have never been roofied and raped in their first year in college like my co-worker's sister, who had an abortion so she could get her education without the ongoing psychological trauma; have never been knocked up and ditched by a man who promised everything and disappeared only to stare down the reality of supporting a child alone with no means like my best friend; have never sat in a doctor's office after conceiving on purpose after 5 grueling years of trying and been told that an unborn child they loved more than themselves was destined for little more than suffering like I did. I'll kindly thank people (especially the men in Congress and post-menopausal church ladies leading the charge against RvW) who have no stake in the game to stfu.
This!
This is what I meant when I said it's easy to sit on a high horse of morality until you have walked in someone's shoes.
A poster on this thread actually said- I never knew a rape victim who had an abortion.
Really?
So that must mean that no rape victim has ever gotten pregnant from the attack and had an abortion.
Except your co worker's sister.
I can't believe some of the stuff I read here.
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Re: Final Presidential Debate
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by bookworm
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I also get the sense that many pro-lifers are spouting that rhetoric from a position of PRIVILEGE: have never been roofied and raped in their first year in college like my co-worker's sister, who had an abortion so she could get her education without the ongoing psychological trauma; have never been knocked up and ditched by a man who promised everything and disappeared only to stare down the reality of supporting a child alone with no means like my best friend; have never sat in a doctor's office after conceiving on purpose after 5 grueling years of trying and been told that an unborn child they loved more than themselves was destined for little more than suffering like I did. I'll kindly thank people (especially the men in Congress and post-menopausal church ladies leading the charge against RvW) who have no stake in the game to stfu.
This!
This is what I meant when I said it's easy to sit on a high horse of morality until you have walked in someone's shoes.
A poster on this thread actually said- I never knew a rape victim who had an abortion.
Really?
So that must mean that no rape victim has ever gotten pregnant from the attack and had an abortion.
Except your co worker's sister.
I can't believe some of the stuff I read here.
I'm pretty sure she meant she personally did not know anyone. She was talking about the people she knew who had abortions. Then went on to say she did not know any rape victims who had abortions.
She did not mean she did not know rape victims could get pregnant and then get an abortion. You are misinterpreting what she posted. Hopefully she will come back on to clarify what she meant.
eta - quoted her post 2 replies down below, you misinterpreted her, so that's why you find it so unbelievable.
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Re: Final Presidential Debate
Nell, don't you know the body has ways to shut that down
/s. it is bs spouted by politicians and gullible people who listen to the nonsense. They then take that as if it were the truth.
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Re: Final Presidential Debate
Posted by LSP2005
Nell, don't you know the body has ways to shut that down
/s. it is bs spouted by politicians and gullible people who listen to the nonsense. They then take that as if it were the truth.
OMG I forgot about that!
The "forcible rape" speech.
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Re: Final Presidential Debate
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by bookworm
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I also get the sense that many pro-lifers are spouting that rhetoric from a position of PRIVILEGE: have never been roofied and raped in their first year in college like my co-worker's sister, who had an abortion so she could get her education without the ongoing psychological trauma; have never been knocked up and ditched by a man who promised everything and disappeared only to stare down the reality of supporting a child alone with no means like my best friend; have never sat in a doctor's office after conceiving on purpose after 5 grueling years of trying and been told that an unborn child they loved more than themselves was destined for little more than suffering like I did. I'll kindly thank people (especially the men in Congress and post-menopausal church ladies leading the charge against RvW) who have no stake in the game to stfu.
This!
This is what I meant when I said it's easy to sit on a high horse of morality until you have walked in someone's shoes.
A poster on this thread actually said- I never knew a rape victim who had an abortion.
Really?
So that must mean that no rape victim has ever gotten pregnant from the attack and had an abortion.
Except your co worker's sister.
I can't believe some of the stuff I read here.
Posted by lululu
I know many, many people that have had abortions and all but one were because of an accidental pregnancy. The one that was not, the fetus would have died eventually anyway and so the pregnancy was terminated to end the suffering of the mother. I don't know one rape victim that needed an abortion.
This is what she said. She didn't know ONE rape victim who needed an abortion. Meaning personally know any (after she listed all the people she did know who had abortions). That doesn't equate to meaning she doesn't think any such things occur.
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Re: Final Presidential Debate
Posted by Goobster
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by bookworm
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I also get the sense that many pro-lifers are spouting that rhetoric from a position of PRIVILEGE: have never been roofied and raped in their first year in college like my co-worker's sister, who had an abortion so she could get her education without the ongoing psychological trauma; have never been knocked up and ditched by a man who promised everything and disappeared only to stare down the reality of supporting a child alone with no means like my best friend; have never sat in a doctor's office after conceiving on purpose after 5 grueling years of trying and been told that an unborn child they loved more than themselves was destined for little more than suffering like I did. I'll kindly thank people (especially the men in Congress and post-menopausal church ladies leading the charge against RvW) who have no stake in the game to stfu.
This!
This is what I meant when I said it's easy to sit on a high horse of morality until you have walked in someone's shoes.
A poster on this thread actually said- I never knew a rape victim who had an abortion.
Really?
So that must mean that no rape victim has ever gotten pregnant from the attack and had an abortion.
Except your co worker's sister.
I can't believe some of the stuff I read here.
Posted by lululu
I know many, many people that have had abortions and all but one were because of an accidental pregnancy. The one that was not, the fetus would have died eventually anyway and so the pregnancy was terminated to end the suffering of the mother. I don't know one rape victim that needed an abortion.
This is what she said. She didn't know ONE rape victim who needed an abortion. Meaning personally know any (after she listed all the people she did know who had abortions). That doesn't equate to meaning she doesn't think any such things occur.
Thank you so much for clarifying this. People get so heated that they forget how to read! How can you turn me not knowing one rape victim to me saying it never happens? If you read the other stuff I wrote you would also see that I am pro-choice primarily for extenuating circumstances such as rape.
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Re: Final Presidential Debate
double post...
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Brilliant and true as well as separation of church and state
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Re: Final Presidential Debate
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double post...
Wait. So because you don't know a rape victim whose needed an abortion, there shouldn't be a choice? I am pro choice. Not a choice I would use but far be it for me to deny anyone else and it can make you mad how they use it, but you can be mad at someone eating an entire cake a day and washing it down with McDonald's CHOICE
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Re: Final Presidential Debate
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I also get the sense that many pro-lifers are spouting that rhetoric from a position of PRIVILEGE: have never been roofied and raped in their first year in college like my co-worker's sister, who had an abortion so she could get her education without the ongoing psychological trauma; have never been knocked up and ditched by a man who promised everything and disappeared only to stare down the reality of supporting a child alone with no means like my best friend; have never sat in a doctor's office after conceiving on purpose after 5 grueling years of trying and been told that an unborn child they loved more than themselves was destined for little more than suffering like I did. I'll kindly thank people (especially the men in Congress and post-menopausal church ladies leading the charge against RvW) who have no stake in the game to stfu.
This
It is deeply upsetting that people think they should be able to decide what a woman does with her own body.
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Re: Final Presidential Debate
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Posted by lululu
double post...
Wait. So because you don't know a rape victim whose needed an abortion, there shouldn't be a choice? I am pro choice. Not a choice I would use but far be it for me to deny anyone else and it can make you mad how they use it, but you can be mad at someone eating an entire cake a day and washing it down with McDonald's CHOICE
Well this is what it comes back to, people always giving a fluck what others do in their own lives that isn't ANY of their business and doesn't concern them. But, people always feel the need to police others based on their superior moral code. How many times have we seen the "just saw a mom feed her child oreos and diet coke for breakfast" post on here that will inevitably turn into 25 pages of judgment and bashing other people's choices and back and forth from the holier than thou crew? People need to worry about their own lives. If you don't believe in abortion (I personlly don't, but it's not my business to decide for ANYONE what they should do with their life or their body) then by all means don't have one, but don't choose what's best for others. You may think it's murder because of your religious beliefs (and I happen to be Catholic) but that doesn't mean others will agree with you. I'll always say it. All these people who protest abortions should put their money where their giant misguided mouth is. If you feel so strongly and so moved about the topic, then let your morality come into play to ACTUALLY DO something besides sit and judge. Actually feed and house these children, ensure they have a proper upbringing etc or stop concerning yourself where your concern is not warranted. If you don't do a thing to help after an unwanted child is born then you are not morally superior to the woman who makes the tough choice to terminate. These are the same people that complain about entitlements like medicaid, welfare, food stamps, etc. (can't say you aren't because it's the party’s platform). Oh, who am I to tell you to open your pocket and your home to these kids? Well who are you to force your beliefs on others?
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Re: Final Presidential Debate
Posted by bookworm
I also get the sense that many pro-lifers are spouting that rhetoric from a position of PRIVILEGE: have never been roofied and raped in their first year in college like my co-worker's sister, who had an abortion so she could get her education without the ongoing psychological trauma; have never been knocked up and ditched by a man who promised everything and disappeared only to stare down the reality of supporting a child alone with no means like my best friend; have never sat in a doctor's office after conceiving on purpose after 5 grueling years of trying and been told that an unborn child they loved more than themselves was destined for little more than suffering like I did. I'll kindly thank people (especially the men in Congress and post-menopausal church ladies leading the charge against RvW) who have no stake in the game to stfu.
yes yes yes!!!! why don't people see this?? i just dont get it!
and so sorry you had to personally experience this! 
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Re: Final Presidential Debate
Posted by MC09
Posted by TheDivaBrideandTeddyFrog
Posted by lululu
double post...
Wait. So because you don't know a rape victim whose needed an abortion, there shouldn't be a choice? I am pro choice. Not a choice I would use but far be it for me to deny anyone else and it can make you mad how they use it, but you can be mad at someone eating an entire cake a day and washing it down with McDonald's CHOICE
Well this is what it comes back to, people always giving a fluck what others do in their own lives that isn't ANY of their business and doesn't concern them. But, people always feel the need to police others based on their superior moral code. How many times have we seen the "just saw a mom feed her child oreos and diet coke for breakfast" post on here that will inevitably turn into 25 pages of judgment and bashing other people's choices and back and forth from the holier than thou crew? People need to worry about their own lives. If you don't believe in abortion (I personlly don't, but it's not my business to decide for ANYONE what they should do with their life or their body) then by all means don't have one, but don't choose what's best for others. You may think it's murder because of your religious beliefs (and I happen to be Catholic) but that doesn't mean others will agree with you. I'll always say it. All these people who protest abortions should put their money where their giant misguided mouth is. If you feel so strongly and so moved about the topic, then let your morality come into play to ACTUALLY DO something besides sit and judge. Actually feed and house these children, ensure they have a proper upbringing etc or stop concerning yourself where your concern is not warranted. If you don't do a thing to help after an unwanted child is born then you are not morally superior to the woman who makes the tough choice to terminate. These are the same people that complain about entitlements like medicaid, welfare, food stamps, etc. (can't say you aren't because it's the party’s platform). Oh, who am I to tell you to open your pocket and your home to these kids? Well who are you to force your beliefs on others?
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Re: Final Presidential Debate
Posted by TheDivaBrideandTeddyFrog
Posted by lululu
double post...
Wait. So because you don't know a rape victim whose needed an abortion, there shouldn't be a choice? I am pro choice. Not a choice I would use but far be it for me to deny anyone else and it can make you mad how they use it, but you can be mad at someone eating an entire cake a day and washing it down with McDonald's CHOICE
Did you even read any of my posts? Seriously, please read. I am PRO CHOICE.
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Re: Final Presidential Debate
Posted by RainyDay
Posted by MC09
Posted by TheDivaBrideandTeddyFrog
Posted by lululu
double post...
Wait. So because you don't know a rape victim whose needed an abortion, there shouldn't be a choice? I am pro choice. Not a choice I would use but far be it for me to deny anyone else and it can make you mad how they use it, but you can be mad at someone eating an entire cake a day and washing it down with McDonald's CHOICE
Well this is what it comes back to, people always giving a fluck what others do in their own lives that isn't ANY of their business and doesn't concern them. But, people always feel the need to police others based on their superior moral code. How many times have we seen the "just saw a mom feed her child oreos and diet coke for breakfast" post on here that will inevitably turn into 25 pages of judgment and bashing other people's choices and back and forth from the holier than thou crew? People need to worry about their own lives. If you don't believe in abortion (I personlly don't, but it's not my business to decide for ANYONE what they should do with their life or their body) then by all means don't have one, but don't choose what's best for others. You may think it's murder because of your religious beliefs (and I happen to be Catholic) but that doesn't mean others will agree with you. I'll always say it. All these people who protest abortions should put their money where their giant misguided mouth is. If you feel so strongly and so moved about the topic, then let your morality come into play to ACTUALLY DO something besides sit and judge. Actually feed and house these children, ensure they have a proper upbringing etc or stop concerning yourself where your concern is not warranted. If you don't do a thing to help after an unwanted child is born then you are not morally superior to the woman who makes the tough choice to terminate. These are the same people that complain about entitlements like medicaid, welfare, food stamps, etc. (can't say you aren't because it's the party’s platform). Oh, who am I to tell you to open your pocket and your home to these kids? Well who are you to force your beliefs on others?
I agree with what you are saying but her post was directed at me and she was grossly misinformed. If anyone took the time to go back and read what I wrote I said that I am PRO CHOICE. I think the bigger part of the problem is that everyone is in attack mode like divabride. Just take a deep breathe and take a step back and realize not everyone is the enemy!
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Final Presidential Debate
I saw your privilege and judgement despite your "being pro choice." You do you. I think that's what a lot of people are missing as of late.
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Re: Final Presidential Debate
Posted by TheDivaBrideandTeddyFrog
I saw your privilege and judgement despite your "being pro choice." You do you. I think that's what a lot of people are missing as of late.
Sorry not even sure what "you do you" even means. You are seriously ridiculous. And I really wish that people would stop using the word privilege!!! It's got to be the most overused word of 2016!
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Re: Final Presidential Debate
Posted by lululu
Posted by TheDivaBrideandTeddyFrog
I saw your privilege and judgement despite your "being pro choice." You do you. I think that's what a lot of people are missing as of late.
Sorry not even sure what "you do you" even means. You are seriously ridiculous. And I really wish that people would stop using the word privilege!!! It's got to be the most overused word of 2016!
Wanting the problem to quietly go away proves the point of the posters who are accusing you of operating from that position.
Privilege is a very real concept evident in our culture, social patterns, systems, and institutions.
Obviously you can't help how you were born. (I wasn't born poor myself, although my mom and I did have some lean years later.)
But part of owning privilege is not contributing to the marginalization of people who deserve more.
To say a woman is entitled to an abortion only in extreme cases (i.e. rape or molestation) is to make a moral judgment that she only is entitled to take control over her body when she has gone through a certain level of trauma - basically, if someone committed a crime against her.
You have no business making that judgment - no one does.
I am relatively certain you'll dismiss me and go about your day. But if one person sees this and uses their privilege to lift others up and not push them down, it was worth it.
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Posted by TheDivaBrideandTeddyFrog
I saw your privilege and judgement despite your "being pro choice." You do you. I think that's what a lot of people are missing as of late.
Sorry not even sure what "you do you" even means. You are seriously ridiculous. And I really wish that people would stop using the word privilege!!! It's got to be the most overused word of 2016!
Are you for real? You don't know me from a hole in the wall-you make a statement and then someone talks about it and you insult me? Very mature. I'm done with your argument. It's ridiculous. You do you-it means whatever you think is fine. Just like I've said a hundred times. If you're not hurting anyone, you think and do what you feel is right. Sheesh. Calm yourself.
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Posted by lululu
Posted by TheDivaBrideandTeddyFrog
I saw your privilege and judgement despite your "being pro choice." You do you. I think that's what a lot of people are missing as of late.
Sorry not even sure what "you do you" even means. You are seriously ridiculous. And I really wish that people would stop using the word privilege!!! It's got to be the most overused word of 2016!
Wanting the problem to quietly go away proves the point of the posters who are accusing you of operating from that position.
Privilege is a very real concept evident in our culture, social patterns, systems, and institutions.
Obviously you can't help how you were born. (I wasn't born poor myself, although my mom and I did have some lean years later.)
But part of owning privilege is not contributing to the marginalization of people who deserve more.
To say a woman is entitled to an abortion only in extreme cases (i.e. rape or molestation) is to make a moral judgment that she only is entitled to take control over her body when she has gone through a certain level of trauma - basically, if someone committed a crime against her.
You have no business making that judgment - no one does.
I am relatively certain you'll dismiss me and go about your day. But if one person sees this and uses their privilege to lift others up and not push them down, it was worth it.
Nope. She'll tell you she's pro choice and call you a name. It's a great approach.
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