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Re: #burnyournikes

Posted by ChristinaM128

I just went out and bought a pair of Nikes for my dd. Go Nike



My son has brand new Nikes and a Nike backpack and I was so happy LMAO

Posted 9/6/18 2:23 PM
 
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Re: #burnyournikes

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I’m ok with the protest. But that asshole deserves nothing after displaying pigs in cop uniforms on his socks, so no, he’s not respectful to anything or anyone. I’d fully back someone like Malcom Jenkins doing a Nike ad about protesting because that man is an amazing role model and puts his money and time his where his mouth is. But I’m also an eagles fan, so I’m sure there’s tons of other guys from other teams who I would have supported as well, but Kaepnick is a disgrace.



Really, because of socks???? Socks he wore at a practice before ever taking a public stance. Yeah, they may not have been the best decision, but I don't think his novelty socks negate everything he's done, everything he tries to stand for, the message he's trying to get across. He also puts his time and money where his mouth is (including continuing to put his money into causes after not being signed), and he literally sacrificed his career for it.

I just don't get the disdain for Kaepernick other than he tried to make white NFL fans aware of an issue in this country, but that made them uncomfortable so they hide behind him being disrespectful and unpartriotic. Even though our country was founded on the principles of free speech and peaceful protest, so it's about the most patriotic thing you can do, but instead we should force mandatory fake patriotism so we don't make anyone at home feel uncomfortable.



Yes, because of socks. It speaks to his character, that instead of standing up to injustice for his fellow African Americans who are mistreated by some PO, that he would rather lump them all together and further the distance between unity, by calling cops pigs.

And again, I’m good with the protest. I understand what he was trying to achieve, and I love that many players are continuing it. But that doesn’t negate the fact that he came in hate before he ever tried peaceful protest. So I was glad when he was out of the picture and that real men stepped in for the cause.

I also say I find it funny that you’re basically calling me racist just because I don’t appreciate 1 black man. I don’t appreciate many people actually, I’m an equal hater of stupid Chat Icon.

Posted 9/6/18 2:29 PM
 

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Posted by mommy2B3

Yes, because of socks. It speaks to his character, that instead of standing up to injustice for his fellow African Americans who are mistreated by some PO, that he would rather lump them all together and further the distance between unity, by calling cops pigs.

And again, I’m good with the protest. I understand what he was trying to achieve, and I love that many players are continuing it. But that doesn’t negate the fact that he came in hate before he ever tried peaceful protest. So I was glad when he was out of the picture and that real men stepped in for the cause.

I also say I find it funny that you’re basically calling me racist just because I don’t appreciate 1 black man. I don’t appreciate many people actually, I’m an equal hater of stupid Chat Icon.



I did not mean to imply that you are racist. My second paragraph was meant to be more general about people's reactions to the protests and their tendency to paint Kaepernick as some lowlife rabble rouser who hates the military and police.

I've found a lot of people who dislike him don't actually know anything about him. Don't know about his million dollar pledge. Don't know about the work he does with youth organizations. Don't know that he has his own foundation. They just know that he kneels.

Just on a side note about the socks, did you read his statement about the socks? I don't think it negates the socks being a poor choice, but I also don't think you can assume the socks were worn in hate.


I wore these socks, in the past, because the rogue cops that are allowed to hold positions in police departments, not only put the community in danger, but also put the cops that have the right intentions in danger by creating an environment of tension and mistrust. I have two uncles and friends who are police officers and work to protect and serve ALL people. So before these socks, which were worn before I took my public stance, are used to distract from the real issues, I wanted to address this immediately.

Posted 9/6/18 2:45 PM
 

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I'm not opposed to Nike using his picture for their ad. I'm all for peaceful protest and the freedom to express your opinions. So take a knee, boycott - it's your right as a American, and isn't that amazing.

But can someone please explain what his sacrifice was?

He was a terrible player that nobody wanted BEFORE he started this protest. He had no future in the NFL. He's been paid MILLIONS of dollars from both the NFL and Nike. He had nothing to lose by taking a stance a here.

I'm genuinely interesting in hearing others views on the topic of his sacrifice. Because at least with the people I've spoken to, no one is against him being used in the ad - they are displeased with the use of the word sacrifice. But again, this is within my circle, which doesn't contain many far right, or far left, individuals.

Posted 9/6/18 3:00 PM
 

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Re: #burnyournikes

Posted by starbrightgirl8

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Yes, because of socks. It speaks to his character, that instead of standing up to injustice for his fellow African Americans who are mistreated by some PO, that he would rather lump them all together and further the distance between unity, by calling cops pigs.

And again, I’m good with the protest. I understand what he was trying to achieve, and I love that many players are continuing it. But that doesn’t negate the fact that he came in hate before he ever tried peaceful protest. So I was glad when he was out of the picture and that real men stepped in for the cause.

I also say I find it funny that you’re basically calling me racist just because I don’t appreciate 1 black man. I don’t appreciate many people actually, I’m an equal hater of stupid Chat Icon.



I did not mean to imply that you are racist. My second paragraph was meant to be more general about people's reactions to the protests and their tendency to paint Kaepernick as some lowlife rabble rouser who hates the military and police.

I've found a lot of people who dislike him don't actually know anything about him. Don't know about his million dollar pledge. Don't know about the work he does with youth organizations. Don't know that he has his own foundation. They just know that he kneels.

Just on a side note about the socks, did you read his statement about the socks? I don't think it negates the socks being a poor choice, but I also don't think you can assume the socks were worn in hate.


I wore these socks, in the past, because the rogue cops that are allowed to hold positions in police departments, not only put the community in danger, but also put the cops that have the right intentions in danger by creating an environment of tension and mistrust. I have two uncles and friends who are police officers and work to protect and serve ALL people. So before these socks, which were worn before I took my public stance, are used to distract from the real issues, I wanted to address this immediately.




I appreciate that, because I did take it personally at first. And I do know a lot about Kaepernick, mainly bc I live in a town in PA that is extremely racist and my DS was asking questions, so we researched him so that he could see the positives. Because while I’m not a fan, I wouldn’t ever want my kids repeating things in a different context on accident. However, fiscally speaking, he’s only donated 2% of earnings, while sure that’s great, I wouldn’t call that going above and beyond for a cause that is supposedly so near and dear to him.

I did see his Instagram post, but I think that was backtracking and a good PR try. Many of my close friends are POs since that was where I worked before I became a SAHM, so I do think I take it way more personal that I probably should. But nobody is seeing pigs dressed as cops and thinking “oh they must be talking about abusive POs only”.

But I apologize for my long drawn out ranting on this. Because we are totally a Nike family and that’s not changing any time soon. I don’t think he has made a sacrifice, so I find the wording in the ad off putting, but he has certainly made many, including myself, stop and take notice to this issue, and I’ll always be for peaceful protest.

Posted 9/6/18 3:23 PM
 

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Re: #burnyournikes

Posted by LiveForMoments

I'm not opposed to Nike using his picture for their ad. I'm all for peaceful protest and the freedom to express your opinions. So take a knee, boycott - it's your right as a American, and isn't that amazing.

But can someone please explain what his sacrifice was?

He was a terrible player that nobody wanted BEFORE he started this protest. He had no future in the NFL. He's been paid MILLIONS of dollars from both the NFL and Nike. He had nothing to lose by taking a stance a here.

I'm genuinely interesting in hearing others views on the topic of his sacrifice. Because at least with the people I've spoken to, no one is against him being used in the ad - they are displeased with the use of the word sacrifice. But again, this is within my circle, which doesn't contain many far right, or far left, individuals.



I'm curious about this too.
Most of the upset I have seen is with people upset that he is using that word sacrifice.... when there are people who have truly sacrificed- their lives- for their beliefs and this country.

Posted 9/6/18 3:23 PM
 

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Posted by LiveForMoments

I'm not opposed to Nike using his picture for their ad. I'm all for peaceful protest and the freedom to express your opinions. So take a knee, boycott - it's your right as a American, and isn't that amazing.

But can someone please explain what his sacrifice was?

He was a terrible player that nobody wanted BEFORE he started this protest. He had no future in the NFL. He's been paid MILLIONS of dollars from both the NFL and Nike. He had nothing to lose by taking a stance a here.

I'm genuinely interesting in hearing others views on the topic of his sacrifice. Because at least with the people I've spoken to, no one is against him being used in the ad - they are displeased with the use of the word sacrifice. But again, this is within my circle, which doesn't contain many far right, or far left, individuals.



Oh my goodness.. the sacrifice millions. Dude you decided to not listen to your bosses, therefore no job. I don't care if he stand, kneels or sh!ts during the anthem. But you made a choice and now you aren't in the NFL. I really think his lawsuit is a joke and hope he gets nothing. You kneeled the whole time while collecting the NFL money, to me also hypocritical.

I am a football fan and all the politics in football was so annoying. I want to enjoy a game after a long week of work. And he didn't bring awareness to football fan. Everyone knew about the police brutality - he didnt open the eyes of minorities, it was all over the news. He sure as hell didn't change the minds of any racist.

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Posted 9/6/18 3:28 PM
 

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Re: #burnyournikes

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by LiveForMoments

I'm not opposed to Nike using his picture for their ad. I'm all for peaceful protest and the freedom to express your opinions. So take a knee, boycott - it's your right as a American, and isn't that amazing.

But can someone please explain what his sacrifice was?

He was a terrible player that nobody wanted BEFORE he started this protest. He had no future in the NFL. He's been paid MILLIONS of dollars from both the NFL and Nike. He had nothing to lose by taking a stance a here.

I'm genuinely interesting in hearing others views on the topic of his sacrifice. Because at least with the people I've spoken to, no one is against him being used in the ad - they are displeased with the use of the word sacrifice. But again, this is within my circle, which doesn't contain many far right, or far left, individuals.



I'm curious about this too.
Most of the upset I have seen is with people upset that he is using that word sacrifice.... when there are people who have truly sacrificed- their lives- for their beliefs and this country.




He was collecting millions of dollars and he isnt even that good. That isn't a sacrifice, you kept sticking your middle finger to the NFL and then no one wanted you. Your actions, your consequences.

Posted 9/6/18 3:34 PM
 

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hm... I hadn't really seen the wording questioned before, which is an interesting point.

I though of it as him sacrificing his career. All analysis I've read says he's a mediocre quarterback, but that their are plenty of worse one's still in the NFL, and that many teams could have used him. Also his collusion claim has survived summary judgment, so there must be at least some evidence of collusion by the NFL (doesn't mean the claim will be successful, but it's not open and shut).

However, the choice of words paired with someone seen as being disrespectful to the sacrifices of the military, definitely seems like a poor choice. I wonder if that had been thought through by Nike and Kaepernick.

Posted 9/6/18 3:52 PM
 

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Posted by LIRascal

People are so mad that they're setting fire to their personal belongings. That they paid for. With their own money.
#findabetterprotest



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Posted 9/6/18 4:48 PM
 

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Posted by LiveForMoments

I'm not opposed to Nike using his picture for their ad. I'm all for peaceful protest and the freedom to express your opinions. So take a knee, boycott - it's your right as a American, and isn't that amazing.

But can someone please explain what his sacrifice was?

He was a terrible player that nobody wanted BEFORE he started this protest. He had no future in the NFL. He's been paid MILLIONS of dollars from both the NFL and Nike. He had nothing to lose by taking a stance a here.

I'm genuinely interesting in hearing others views on the topic of his sacrifice. Because at least with the people I've spoken to, no one is against him being used in the ad - they are displeased with the use of the word sacrifice. But again, this is within my circle, which doesn't contain many far right, or far left, individuals.



I'm curious about this too.
Most of the upset I have seen is with people upset that he is using that word sacrifice.... when there are people who have truly sacrificed- their lives- for their beliefs and this country.




I interpreted it to mean that he sacrificed his career to stand for what he believed in.

I am sure he KNEW when he took a knee that it would cause an outcry (which IMO is way overblown) and might have consequences but he did it anyway and gave up his job and his millions to try and bring awareness to an issue he felt strongly about.

I honestly think there are FAR bigger issues right now in this country under this administration that I just can't get my feathers ruffled over someone taking a knee OR a Nike campaign. Everyone has a right to peacefully protest even if you don't like their method. JMO.

Posted 9/6/18 4:54 PM
 

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Posted by Hofstra26

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Posted by LiveForMoments

I'm not opposed to Nike using his picture for their ad. I'm all for peaceful protest and the freedom to express your opinions. So take a knee, boycott - it's your right as a American, and isn't that amazing.

But can someone please explain what his sacrifice was?

He was a terrible player that nobody wanted BEFORE he started this protest. He had no future in the NFL. He's been paid MILLIONS of dollars from both the NFL and Nike. He had nothing to lose by taking a stance a here.

I'm genuinely interesting in hearing others views on the topic of his sacrifice. Because at least with the people I've spoken to, no one is against him being used in the ad - they are displeased with the use of the word sacrifice. But again, this is within my circle, which doesn't contain many far right, or far left, individuals.



I'm curious about this too.
Most of the upset I have seen is with people upset that he is using that word sacrifice.... when there are people who have truly sacrificed- their lives- for their beliefs and this country.




I interpreted it to mean that he sacrificed his career to stand for what he believed in.

I am sure he KNEW when he took a knee that it would cause an outcry (which IMO is way overblown) and might have consequences but he did it anyway and gave up his job and his millions to try and bring awareness to an issue he felt strongly about.

I honestly think there are FAR bigger issues right now in this country under this administration that I just can't get my feathers ruffled over someone taking a knee OR a Nike campaign. Everyone has a right to peacefully protest even if you don't like their method. JMO.



Giving up his career is certainly the implication, but not the truth. His career was over because he wasn’t good enough, no one wanted him prior to him taking a knee.

Posted 9/6/18 6:44 PM
 

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I will not burn my Nike shoes, but I will no longer purchase anymore in the future until they stop endorsing him. I cant stand him and think he is an idiot. What has he done during his off season to show the awareness he is trying spread??

Posted 9/6/18 6:52 PM
 

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Posted by Diane

I will not burn my Nike shoes, but I will no longer purchase anymore in the future until they stop endorsing him. I cant stand him and think he is an idiot. What has he done during his off season to show the awareness he is trying spread??



He's donated $1 million of his own money to 40 organizations, primarily smaller social injustice related organizations. He's gotten other celebrities to also contribute to these organizations.
Part of his Nike contract entails Nike donating money as well.

https://www.ninersnation.com/2018/1/31/16956016/colin-kaepernick-donations-full-list-of-organizations-one-million-dollars

https://www.aol.com/article/news/2018/09/06/colin-kaepernick-has-already-donated-more-than-dollar1-million-of-his-earnings-to-social-justice-charities/23518873/

...
Nike's relationship with Kaepernick looks as though it will go beyond his initial endorsement and commercial — reports have said that the brand will aim to brand merchandise including shoes and shirts with Kap in mind. Additionally, while the exact value of his deal is still unclear, the brand will reportedly also donate money to Kaepernick's "Know Your Rights" campaign, which aims to "raise awareness on higher education, self-empowerment, and instruction to properly interact with law enforcement in various scenarios."

When Kaepernick was out of the league, his most powerful tool was his silence. He used his voice sparingly, retweeting here and there and rarely speaking publicly, choosing instead to go about his good works quietly and let his action speak for itself.
...

Posted 9/6/18 7:29 PM
 

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Posted by GoldenRod

Posted by Diane

I will not burn my Nike shoes, but I will no longer purchase anymore in the future until they stop endorsing him. I cant stand him and think he is an idiot. What has he done during his off season to show the awareness he is trying spread??



He's donated $1 million of his own money to 40 organizations, primarily smaller social injustice related organizations. He's gotten other celebrities to also contribute to these organizations.
Part of his Nike contract entails Nike donating money as well.

https://www.ninersnation.com/2018/1/31/16956016/colin-kaepernick-donations-full-list-of-organizations-one-million-dollars

https://www.aol.com/article/news/2018/09/06/colin-kaepernick-has-already-donated-more-than-dollar1-million-of-his-earnings-to-social-justice-charities/23518873/

...
Nike's relationship with Kaepernick looks as though it will go beyond his initial endorsement and commercial — reports have said that the brand will aim to brand merchandise including shoes and shirts with Kap in mind. Additionally, while the exact value of his deal is still unclear, the brand will reportedly also donate money to Kaepernick's "Know Your Rights" campaign, which aims to "raise awareness on higher education, self-empowerment, and instruction to properly interact with law enforcement in various scenarios."

When Kaepernick was out of the league, his most powerful tool was his silence. He used his voice sparingly, retweeting here and there and rarely speaking publicly, choosing instead to go about his good works quietly and let his action speak for itself.
...





he is still a piece of crap....wow he donated $1 million dollars, many people lost their lives...no comparison.

Posted 9/6/18 7:45 PM
 

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Re: #burnyournikes

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Posted by Hofstra26

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I'm not opposed to Nike using his picture for their ad. I'm all for peaceful protest and the freedom to express your opinions. So take a knee, boycott - it's your right as a American, and isn't that amazing.

But can someone please explain what his sacrifice was?

He was a terrible player that nobody wanted BEFORE he started this protest. He had no future in the NFL. He's been paid MILLIONS of dollars from both the NFL and Nike. He had nothing to lose by taking a stance a here.

I'm genuinely interesting in hearing others views on the topic of his sacrifice. Because at least with the people I've spoken to, no one is against him being used in the ad - they are displeased with the use of the word sacrifice. But again, this is within my circle, which doesn't contain many far right, or far left, individuals.



I'm curious about this too.
Most of the upset I have seen is with people upset that he is using that word sacrifice.... when there are people who have truly sacrificed- their lives- for their beliefs and this country.




I interpreted it to mean that he sacrificed his career to stand for what he believed in.

I am sure he KNEW when he took a knee that it would cause an outcry (which IMO is way overblown) and might have consequences but he did it anyway and gave up his job and his millions to try and bring awareness to an issue he felt strongly about.

I honestly think there are FAR bigger issues right now in this country under this administration that I just can't get my feathers ruffled over someone taking a knee OR a Nike campaign. Everyone has a right to peacefully protest even if you don't like their method. JMO.



Giving up his career is certainly the implication, but not the truth. His career was over because he wasn’t good enough, no one wanted him prior to him taking a knee.



He had a year left on his contract when he walked away He opted out

But the broncos offered him a contract. And he turned it down. So he could have had a job.

And yes. He is a mediocre quarterback at best His defense is what got them to the Super Bowl

I personally am all for a protest. It’s your right. But I think he is a douche. And for me,and this is jmo, it’s never ok to not stand for your countries anthem

But when I say that I’m a racist who doesn’t care about issues and injustice ???????

Posted 9/6/18 7:46 PM
 

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Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see how this ad says that him "sacrificing" his career is even remotely comparable to a soldier's sacrifice. I don't see what one has to do with the other. How has this ad turned into a comparison of sacrifice?

Posted 9/6/18 8:56 PM
 

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I don't understand why this particular Nike ad is the tipping point for so many people to dislike the company. For those who bought products, and therefore supported Nike, I have to assume that you were okay with their use of child sweat shop labor? Their unenvironmental labor practices? Their unethical and immoral business practices were tolerable because it made your sneakers affordable, but this - a print ad of an athlete who peacefully protested an injustice which is protected by our 1st amendment right - is what turned you off of them? Makes no sense to me.

Message edited 9/6/2018 9:48:51 PM.

Posted 9/6/18 9:42 PM
 

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I don't understand why this particular Nike ad is the tipping point for so many people to dislike the company. For those who bought products, and therefore supported Nike, I have to assume that you were okay with their use of child sweat shop labor? Their unenvironmental labor practices? Their unethical and immoral business practices were tolerable because it made your sneakers affordable, but this - a print ad of an athlete who peacefully protested an injustice which is protected by our 1st amendment right - is what turned you off of them? Makes no sense to me.



Right?

And on the flip side of that - people on the other side of things are pouring support towards Nike for running this ad, also ignoring their terrible, unethical, and possibly inhumane business practices.

Posted 9/7/18 8:16 AM
 

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Posted by LiveForMoments

Posted by MrsM84

I don't understand why this particular Nike ad is the tipping point for so many people to dislike the company. For those who bought products, and therefore supported Nike, I have to assume that you were okay with their use of child sweat shop labor? Their unenvironmental labor practices? Their unethical and immoral business practices were tolerable because it made your sneakers affordable, but this - a print ad of an athlete who peacefully protested an injustice which is protected by our 1st amendment right - is what turned you off of them? Makes no sense to me.



Right?

And on the flip side of that - people on the other side of things are pouring support towards Nike for running this ad, also ignoring their terrible, unethical, and possibly inhumane business practices.



To be honest, Nike's suck. they are an inferior snearker in my opinion and they are grossly overpriced for the quality.
Much like many things, you pay for the name and SOMEONE decided Nikes were trendy or something.

Posted 9/7/18 8:22 AM
 

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#burnyournikes

WHY is it that when Tim Tebow exercised his religious freedom rights and took a knee that no one made such a big deal? White religious conservative does it, "yes he's exercisiing his frst amendment rights". Black dude with a fro does it? "Disrespectful, unpatriotic, anti-American, etc. etc. etc" Give me a break. This is glaringly obvious racism

Posted 9/7/18 9:05 AM
 

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WHY is it that when Tim Tebow exercised his religious freedom rights and took a knee that no one made such a big deal? White religious conservative does it, "yes he's exercisiing his frst amendment rights". Black dude with a fro does it? "Disrespectful, unpatriotic, anti-American, etc. etc. etc" Give me a break. This is glaringly obvious racism



Yes!! You hit the nail on the head!

Whether you agree with the method or not, EVERY single American citizen has a right to peacefully protest.

Posted 9/7/18 9:25 AM
 

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WHY is it that when Tim Tebow exercised his religious freedom rights and took a knee that no one made such a big deal? White religious conservative does it, "yes he's exercisiing his frst amendment rights". Black dude with a fro does it? "Disrespectful, unpatriotic, anti-American, etc. etc. etc" Give me a break. This is glaringly obvious racism



Because Tebow wasn't making a statement, he wasn't trying to get attention. It was something he had always done - high school ball, college ball, NFL, daily life, etc.

Kaepernick was doing it in protest, he was making a statement. He was trying to get attention. He was protesting AGAINST something - which automatically causes there to be 2 sides, creating controversy, fueled heavily by the media.

It's comparing apples to oranges, as the media intended to create MORE of a racial divide than we already have. You can't compare a targeted protest to an act of prayer.
If you want to compare Tebow to Abdullah - I'll give you that one.

Posted 9/7/18 9:35 AM
 

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Because Tebow wasn't making a statement, he wasn't trying to get attention. It was something he had always done - high school ball, college ball, NFL, daily life, etc.

Kaepernick was doing it in protest, he was making a statement. He was trying to get attention. He was protesting AGAINST something - which automatically causes there to be 2 sides, creating controversy, fueled heavily by the media.

It's comparing apples to oranges, as the media intended to create MORE of a racial divide than we already have. You can't compare a targeted protest to an act of prayer.
If you want to compare Tebow to Abdullah - I'll give you that one.



Tebow was definitely making a statement and trying to get attention when he visibly prayed during the games (he could have easily privately prayed), and he used that attention to promote his anti-abortion views including a ad campaign with Focus on the Family.

Also, talking about and covering racial inequality and injustice is not creating MORE of a racial divide. It's the only way it's going to get better. You can't just sweep it under the rug and pretend it doesn't exist. Media coverage doesn't create it, it just makes people more aware of it.

Posted 9/7/18 10:31 AM
 

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Posted by LIRascal

WHY is it that when Tim Tebow exercised his religious freedom rights and took a knee that no one made such a big deal? White religious conservative does it, "yes he's exercisiing his frst amendment rights". Black dude with a fro does it? "Disrespectful, unpatriotic, anti-American, etc. etc. etc" Give me a break. This is glaringly obvious racism



Because Tebow wasn't making a statement, he wasn't trying to get attention. It was something he had always done - high school ball, college ball, NFL, daily life, etc.

Kaepernick was doing it in protest, he was making a statement. He was trying to get attention. He was protesting AGAINST something - which automatically causes there to be 2 sides, creating controversy, fueled heavily by the media.

It's comparing apples to oranges, as the media intended to create MORE of a racial divide than we already have. You can't compare a targeted protest to an act of prayer.
If you want to compare Tebow to Abdullah - I'll give you that one.



Also I wasn’t following football but wasn’t there a lot of flack about Tebow? Obviously not as big as Kapernick. Tbh idk why Kapernick is being hailed like he brought all this attention to police brutality when it was already being talked about across the nation. The BLM had been going on for 3yrs when he took a knee. He did this at the height of the awareness. I wish people would stop saying he sacrificed his career, he killed an already dying career.

I still love my Nikes - sneakers last for years.

Message edited 9/7/2018 10:34:39 AM.

Posted 9/7/18 10:31 AM
 
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