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Re: #burnyournikes
Just saw this gem on facebook and needed to vent/share:
Not to be outdone by Nike. Nyquil PM is hiring Bill Cosby as a spokesman.
Seriously, we're going to compare Kaepernick who kneeled for the anthem to bring awareness to social injustice, to Bill Cosby who drugged and raped women. Not only are people sharing this on Facebook, but all the reactions are the laughing face.
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Re: #burnyournikes
Posted by starbrightgirl8
Just saw this gem on facebook and needed to vent/share:
Not to be outdone by Nike. Nyquil PM is hiring Bill Cosby as a spokesman.
Seriously, we're going to compare Kaepernick who kneeled for the anthem to bring awareness to social injustice, to Bill Cosby who drugged and raped women. Not only are people sharing this on Facebook, but all the reactions are the laughing face.
is this really true? 
I agree, there is no comparison between the two. But I also don't think its a big deal that Nike has Kapernick as their spokesperson anyway.
ETA: I thought he was in Jail?
Message edited 9/10/2018 10:33:10 AM.
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| Posted 9/10/18 10:32 AM |
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Re: #burnyournikes
Posted by Sash
is this really true?
I agree, there is no comparison between the two. But I also don't think its a big deal that Nike has Kapernick as their spokesperson anyway.
ETA: I thought he was in Jail?
His sentencing is in September.
It's not really true. It's someone's idea of a joke.
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Re: #burnyournikes
Posted by starbrightgirl8
Posted by Sash
is this really true?
I agree, there is no comparison between the two. But I also don't think its a big deal that Nike has Kapernick as their spokesperson anyway.
ETA: I thought he was in Jail?
His sentencing is in September.
It's not really true. It's someone's idea of a joke.
Oh duh.. I didnt realize till after the "joke".
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LizD
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Re: #burnyournikes
Posted by klingklang77
Posted by LizD
Posted by mrsrainbow
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I think people are hung up on the semantics of the word "sacrifice."
If you have any sense of social justice at all, you'll understand the importance of Kapernick's choices. If you reduce him to nothing more than some "dumb mouthpiece" then you're truly missing the point and probably your racist microagressions are showing.
White people will never, ever understand the plight of people of color and the abuse they face in our society in 2018. Every time a person of color attempts to bring awareness to said plight, white people lose their shitt.
So all the black including myself who think he is dumb is racists?
Never did I say that - my post is directed towards how some white people lose their minds when black people stand up for themselves.
But that’s the thing, it’s not only white people and the comment is basically saying anyone who disagrees with him is racists or is showing racial tendencies. I have a right and anyone to believe in respecting the flag while agreeing this country needs change and is f#cked up. Doesn’t make someone racists.
Yes I’m sure racists people came out but it’s not the entire group.
I will walk back my statement because I will never speak or presume to speak on behalf of people of color - I only intended to comment in regards to white people.
so now we also can tell that YOU are a racist. Lumping together all white people, really - isn't that racism as well. Why is that OK? How do things ever get better if we keep lumping everyone together. Things are never going to get any better if anyone just takes a group of people and lumps them together.
I understand what you mean, but in truth, reverse racism does not exist. There is no evidence to support it. I’m not going to get into a debate, but I suggest doing a bit of reading on the topic of reverse racism.
racism is racism - what is reverse racism??? So what you are saying is that only white people can be racist? Seriously - you don't know of any non-whites that don't like a group of people simply because of their color??
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Re: #burnyournikes
Posted by LizD
racism is racism - what is reverse racism??? So what you are saying is that only white people can be racist? Seriously - you don't know of any non-whites that don't like a group of people simply because of their color??
Reverse racism is the idea that in trying to correct racism, e.g., affirmative action, you're being racist again whites. That has been shown to not exist, because basically whites are already at such an advantage, that even if you give non-whites some preference it doesn't result in hurting white candidates across the board.
I'm sure some forms of racism exists against whites, but to suggest it is in any way the same as the systemic racism that blacks have faced for generations feels like a an attempt to diminish the actual affects of racism in our society. The fact that someone lumped all white people together or even called a white person a derogatory term is not the same as the discrimination that black Americans have been subjected to in almost every aspect of life from employment to healthcare to education to housing, etc.
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Re: #burnyournikes
Posted by starbrightgirl8
Posted by LizD
racism is racism - what is reverse racism??? So what you are saying is that only white people can be racist? Seriously - you don't know of any non-whites that don't like a group of people simply because of their color??
Reverse racism is the idea that in trying to correct racism, e.g., affirmative action, you're being racist again whites. That has been shown to not exist, because basically whites are already at such an advantage, that even if you give non-whites some preference it doesn't result in hurting white candidates across the board.
I'm sure some forms of racism exists against whites, but to suggest it is in any way the same as the systemic racism that blacks have faced for generations feels like a an attempt to diminish the actual affects of racism in our society. The fact that someone lumped all white people together or even called a white person a derogatory term is not the same as the discrimination that black Americans have been subjected to in almost every aspect of life from employment to healthcare to education to housing, etc.
I understand what you are saying but I find racism in any form against any group to be disgusting. I don't think it is right to lump any group together and make broad statements. I don't think it is right to do against black people and I don't think it is right to do against white people. I am not trying to diminish anything but this statement
The fact that someone lumped all white people together or even called a white person a derogatory term is not the same as the discrimination that black Americans have been subjected - etc - you are making it sound like it is ok because it is against white people. How is anything going to get better if any discrimination is acceptable. All discrimination, against any group should be unacceptable. And I am sorry but the intent was that only white people are racist and that is far from true. Again, not to diminish what anyone has gone through, but I personally think it is wrong for anyone to act that way
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Re: #burnyournikes
Posted by LizD
Posted by starbrightgirl8
Posted by LizD
racism is racism - what is reverse racism??? So what you are saying is that only white people can be racist? Seriously - you don't know of any non-whites that don't like a group of people simply because of their color??
Reverse racism is the idea that in trying to correct racism, e.g., affirmative action, you're being racist again whites. That has been shown to not exist, because basically whites are already at such an advantage, that even if you give non-whites some preference it doesn't result in hurting white candidates across the board.
I'm sure some forms of racism exists against whites, but to suggest it is in any way the same as the systemic racism that blacks have faced for generations feels like a an attempt to diminish the actual affects of racism in our society. The fact that someone lumped all white people together or even called a white person a derogatory term is not the same as the discrimination that black Americans have been subjected to in almost every aspect of life from employment to healthcare to education to housing, etc.
I understand what you are saying but I find racism in any form against any group to be disgusting. I don't think it is right to lump any group together and make broad statements. I don't think it is right to do against black people and I don't think it is right to do against white people. I am not trying to diminish anything but this statement
The fact that someone lumped all white people together or even called a white person a derogatory term is not the same as the discrimination that black Americans have been subjected - etc - you are making it sound like it is ok because it is against white people. How is anything going to get better if any discrimination is acceptable. All discrimination, against any group should be unacceptable. And I am sorry but the intent was that only white people are racist and that is far from true. Again, not to diminish what anyone has gone through, but I personally think it is wrong for anyone to act that way
But what are you MORE upset about: White people being lumped together in a statement about racism, or the systemic oppression and harm that people of color face every day in this country?
If it’s the former, that’s white privilege in its purest form.
If it’s the latter, it’s very unclear from this post
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Re: #burnyournikes
Posted by JennP
Posted by LizD
Posted by starbrightgirl8
Posted by LizD
racism is racism - what is reverse racism??? So what you are saying is that only white people can be racist? Seriously - you don't know of any non-whites that don't like a group of people simply because of their color??
Reverse racism is the idea that in trying to correct racism, e.g., affirmative action, you're being racist again whites. That has been shown to not exist, because basically whites are already at such an advantage, that even if you give non-whites some preference it doesn't result in hurting white candidates across the board.
I'm sure some forms of racism exists against whites, but to suggest it is in any way the same as the systemic racism that blacks have faced for generations feels like a an attempt to diminish the actual affects of racism in our society. The fact that someone lumped all white people together or even called a white person a derogatory term is not the same as the discrimination that black Americans have been subjected to in almost every aspect of life from employment to healthcare to education to housing, etc.
I understand what you are saying but I find racism in any form against any group to be disgusting. I don't think it is right to lump any group together and make broad statements. I don't think it is right to do against black people and I don't think it is right to do against white people. I am not trying to diminish anything but this statement
The fact that someone lumped all white people together or even called a white person a derogatory term is not the same as the discrimination that black Americans have been subjected - etc - you are making it sound like it is ok because it is against white people. How is anything going to get better if any discrimination is acceptable. All discrimination, against any group should be unacceptable. And I am sorry but the intent was that only white people are racist and that is far from true. Again, not to diminish what anyone has gone through, but I personally think it is wrong for anyone to act that way
But what are you MORE upset about: White people being lumped together in a statement about racism, or the systemic oppression and harm that people of color face every day in this country?
If it’s the former, that’s white privilege in its purest form.
If it’s the latter, it’s very unclear from this post
LizD, I never said ALL white people - I said SOME.
Racism is a system of power. Who holds the power in this county?
And to echo JennP, definitely would like to know what you're most upset about.
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Re: #burnyournikes
Posted by JennP
Posted by LizD
Posted by starbrightgirl8
Posted by LizD
racism is racism - what is reverse racism??? So what you are saying is that only white people can be racist? Seriously - you don't know of any non-whites that don't like a group of people simply because of their color??
Reverse racism is the idea that in trying to correct racism, e.g., affirmative action, you're being racist again whites. That has been shown to not exist, because basically whites are already at such an advantage, that even if you give non-whites some preference it doesn't result in hurting white candidates across the board.
I'm sure some forms of racism exists against whites, but to suggest it is in any way the same as the systemic racism that blacks have faced for generations feels like a an attempt to diminish the actual affects of racism in our society. The fact that someone lumped all white people together or even called a white person a derogatory term is not the same as the discrimination that black Americans have been subjected to in almost every aspect of life from employment to healthcare to education to housing, etc.
I understand what you are saying but I find racism in any form against any group to be disgusting. I don't think it is right to lump any group together and make broad statements. I don't think it is right to do against black people and I don't think it is right to do against white people. I am not trying to diminish anything but this statement
The fact that someone lumped all white people together or even called a white person a derogatory term is not the same as the discrimination that black Americans have been subjected - etc - you are making it sound like it is ok because it is against white people. How is anything going to get better if any discrimination is acceptable. All discrimination, against any group should be unacceptable. And I am sorry but the intent was that only white people are racist and that is far from true. Again, not to diminish what anyone has gone through, but I personally think it is wrong for anyone to act that way
But what are you MORE upset about: White people being lumped together in a statement about racism, or the systemic oppression and harm that people of color face every day in this country?
If it’s the former, that’s white privilege in its purest form.
If it’s the latter, it’s very unclear from this post
sorry if it was unclear. I don't think ANY group should be lumped together. Not whites, blacks, Asians, etc. I don't think it is ok to express feeling it is wrong to happen to one group then turning around and doing it to another group.
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Re: #burnyournikes
Posted by mrsrainbow
Posted by JennP
Posted by LizD
Posted by starbrightgirl8
Posted by LizD
racism is racism - what is reverse racism??? So what you are saying is that only white people can be racist? Seriously - you don't know of any non-whites that don't like a group of people simply because of their color??
Reverse racism is the idea that in trying to correct racism, e.g., affirmative action, you're being racist again whites. That has been shown to not exist, because basically whites are already at such an advantage, that even if you give non-whites some preference it doesn't result in hurting white candidates across the board.
I'm sure some forms of racism exists against whites, but to suggest it is in any way the same as the systemic racism that blacks have faced for generations feels like a an attempt to diminish the actual affects of racism in our society. The fact that someone lumped all white people together or even called a white person a derogatory term is not the same as the discrimination that black Americans have been subjected to in almost every aspect of life from employment to healthcare to education to housing, etc.
I understand what you are saying but I find racism in any form against any group to be disgusting. I don't think it is right to lump any group together and make broad statements. I don't think it is right to do against black people and I don't think it is right to do against white people. I am not trying to diminish anything but this statement
The fact that someone lumped all white people together or even called a white person a derogatory term is not the same as the discrimination that black Americans have been subjected - etc - you are making it sound like it is ok because it is against white people. How is anything going to get better if any discrimination is acceptable. All discrimination, against any group should be unacceptable. And I am sorry but the intent was that only white people are racist and that is far from true. Again, not to diminish what anyone has gone through, but I personally think it is wrong for anyone to act that way
But what are you MORE upset about: White people being lumped together in a statement about racism, or the systemic oppression and harm that people of color face every day in this country?
If it’s the former, that’s white privilege in its purest form.
If it’s the latter, it’s very unclear from this post
LizD, I never said ALL white people - I said SOME.
Racism is a system of power. Who holds the power in this county?
And to echo JennP, definitely would like to know what you're most upset about.
I don't understand what is unclear in what I said - I said lumping ANY group together is unacceptable and should not be tolerated. If you are reading that as white privilege than you are just reading into what you want - which is where a lot of the country's problems come from. Seeing what one wants to see.
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Re: #burnyournikes
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Re: #burnyournikes
Posted by LizD
Posted by mrsrainbow
Posted by JennP
Posted by LizD
Posted by starbrightgirl8
Posted by LizD
racism is racism - what is reverse racism??? So what you are saying is that only white people can be racist? Seriously - you don't know of any non-whites that don't like a group of people simply because of their color??
Reverse racism is the idea that in trying to correct racism, e.g., affirmative action, you're being racist again whites. That has been shown to not exist, because basically whites are already at such an advantage, that even if you give non-whites some preference it doesn't result in hurting white candidates across the board.
I'm sure some forms of racism exists against whites, but to suggest it is in any way the same as the systemic racism that blacks have faced for generations feels like a an attempt to diminish the actual affects of racism in our society. The fact that someone lumped all white people together or even called a white person a derogatory term is not the same as the discrimination that black Americans have been subjected to in almost every aspect of life from employment to healthcare to education to housing, etc.
I understand what you are saying but I find racism in any form against any group to be disgusting. I don't think it is right to lump any group together and make broad statements. I don't think it is right to do against black people and I don't think it is right to do against white people. I am not trying to diminish anything but this statement
The fact that someone lumped all white people together or even called a white person a derogatory term is not the same as the discrimination that black Americans have been subjected - etc - you are making it sound like it is ok because it is against white people. How is anything going to get better if any discrimination is acceptable. All discrimination, against any group should be unacceptable. And I am sorry but the intent was that only white people are racist and that is far from true. Again, not to diminish what anyone has gone through, but I personally think it is wrong for anyone to act that way
But what are you MORE upset about: White people being lumped together in a statement about racism, or the systemic oppression and harm that people of color face every day in this country?
If it’s the former, that’s white privilege in its purest form.
If it’s the latter, it’s very unclear from this post
LizD, I never said ALL white people - I said SOME.
Racism is a system of power. Who holds the power in this county?
And to echo JennP, definitely would like to know what you're most upset about.
I don't understand what is unclear in what I said - I said lumping ANY group together is unacceptable and should not be tolerated. If you are reading that as white privilege than you are just reading into what you want - which is where a lot of the country's problems come from. Seeing what one wants to see.
I’m not “seeing what I want to see.” I am drawing conclusions from your words in prior posts because you haven’t answered my question. Feel free to do so.
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Re: #burnyournikes
Posted by JennP
Posted by LizD
Posted by mrsrainbow
Posted by JennP
Posted by LizD
Posted by starbrightgirl8
Posted by LizD
racism is racism - what is reverse racism??? So what you are saying is that only white people can be racist? Seriously - you don't know of any non-whites that don't like a group of people simply because of their color??
Reverse racism is the idea that in trying to correct racism, e.g., affirmative action, you're being racist again whites. That has been shown to not exist, because basically whites are already at such an advantage, that even if you give non-whites some preference it doesn't result in hurting white candidates across the board.
I'm sure some forms of racism exists against whites, but to suggest it is in any way the same as the systemic racism that blacks have faced for generations feels like a an attempt to diminish the actual affects of racism in our society. The fact that someone lumped all white people together or even called a white person a derogatory term is not the same as the discrimination that black Americans have been subjected to in almost every aspect of life from employment to healthcare to education to housing, etc.
I understand what you are saying but I find racism in any form against any group to be disgusting. I don't think it is right to lump any group together and make broad statements. I don't think it is right to do against black people and I don't think it is right to do against white people. I am not trying to diminish anything but this statement
The fact that someone lumped all white people together or even called a white person a derogatory term is not the same as the discrimination that black Americans have been subjected - etc - you are making it sound like it is ok because it is against white people. How is anything going to get better if any discrimination is acceptable. All discrimination, against any group should be unacceptable. And I am sorry but the intent was that only white people are racist and that is far from true. Again, not to diminish what anyone has gone through, but I personally think it is wrong for anyone to act that way
But what are you MORE upset about: White people being lumped together in a statement about racism, or the systemic oppression and harm that people of color face every day in this country?
If it’s the former, that’s white privilege in its purest form.
If it’s the latter, it’s very unclear from this post
LizD, I never said ALL white people - I said SOME.
Racism is a system of power. Who holds the power in this county?
And to echo JennP, definitely would like to know what you're most upset about.
I don't understand what is unclear in what I said - I said lumping ANY group together is unacceptable and should not be tolerated. If you are reading that as white privilege than you are just reading into what you want - which is where a lot of the country's problems come from. Seeing what one wants to see.
I’m not “seeing what I want to see.” I am drawing conclusions from your words in prior posts because you haven’t answered my question. Feel free to do so.
Fragility. When it's pointed out that "white people" do something, all of a sudden "lumping people together" is wrong. But they have no problem doing it to other people. Whataboutism.
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Re: #burnyournikes
Posted by mrsrainbow
Posted by JennP
Posted by LizD
Posted by mrsrainbow
Posted by JennP
Posted by LizD
Posted by starbrightgirl8
Posted by LizD
racism is racism - what is reverse racism??? So what you are saying is that only white people can be racist? Seriously - you don't know of any non-whites that don't like a group of people simply because of their color??
Reverse racism is the idea that in trying to correct racism, e.g., affirmative action, you're being racist again whites. That has been shown to not exist, because basically whites are already at such an advantage, that even if you give non-whites some preference it doesn't result in hurting white candidates across the board.
I'm sure some forms of racism exists against whites, but to suggest it is in any way the same as the systemic racism that blacks have faced for generations feels like a an attempt to diminish the actual affects of racism in our society. The fact that someone lumped all white people together or even called a white person a derogatory term is not the same as the discrimination that black Americans have been subjected to in almost every aspect of life from employment to healthcare to education to housing, etc.
I understand what you are saying but I find racism in any form against any group to be disgusting. I don't think it is right to lump any group together and make broad statements. I don't think it is right to do against black people and I don't think it is right to do against white people. I am not trying to diminish anything but this statement
The fact that someone lumped all white people together or even called a white person a derogatory term is not the same as the discrimination that black Americans have been subjected - etc - you are making it sound like it is ok because it is against white people. How is anything going to get better if any discrimination is acceptable. All discrimination, against any group should be unacceptable. And I am sorry but the intent was that only white people are racist and that is far from true. Again, not to diminish what anyone has gone through, but I personally think it is wrong for anyone to act that way
But what are you MORE upset about: White people being lumped together in a statement about racism, or the systemic oppression and harm that people of color face every day in this country?
If it’s the former, that’s white privilege in its purest form.
If it’s the latter, it’s very unclear from this post
LizD, I never said ALL white people - I said SOME.
Racism is a system of power. Who holds the power in this county?
And to echo JennP, definitely would like to know what you're most upset about.
I don't understand what is unclear in what I said - I said lumping ANY group together is unacceptable and should not be tolerated. If you are reading that as white privilege than you are just reading into what you want - which is where a lot of the country's problems come from. Seeing what one wants to see.
I’m not “seeing what I want to see.” I am drawing conclusions from your words in prior posts because you haven’t answered my question. Feel free to do so.
Fragility. When it's pointed out that "white people" do something, all of a sudden "lumping people together" is wrong. But they have no problem doing it to other people. Whataboutism.
Ohhh goodness. Is this Kitten again?
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LizD
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Re: #burnyournikes
Posted by JennP
Posted by LizD
Posted by mrsrainbow
Posted by JennP
Posted by LizD
Posted by starbrightgirl8
Posted by LizD
racism is racism - what is reverse racism??? So what you are saying is that only white people can be racist? Seriously - you don't know of any non-whites that don't like a group of people simply because of their color??
Reverse racism is the idea that in trying to correct racism, e.g., affirmative action, you're being racist again whites. That has been shown to not exist, because basically whites are already at such an advantage, that even if you give non-whites some preference it doesn't result in hurting white candidates across the board.
I'm sure some forms of racism exists against whites, but to suggest it is in any way the same as the systemic racism that blacks have faced for generations feels like a an attempt to diminish the actual affects of racism in our society. The fact that someone lumped all white people together or even called a white person a derogatory term is not the same as the discrimination that black Americans have been subjected to in almost every aspect of life from employment to healthcare to education to housing, etc.
I understand what you are saying but I find racism in any form against any group to be disgusting. I don't think it is right to lump any group together and make broad statements. I don't think it is right to do against black people and I don't think it is right to do against white people. I am not trying to diminish anything but this statement
The fact that someone lumped all white people together or even called a white person a derogatory term is not the same as the discrimination that black Americans have been subjected - etc - you are making it sound like it is ok because it is against white people. How is anything going to get better if any discrimination is acceptable. All discrimination, against any group should be unacceptable. And I am sorry but the intent was that only white people are racist and that is far from true. Again, not to diminish what anyone has gone through, but I personally think it is wrong for anyone to act that way
But what are you MORE upset about: White people being lumped together in a statement about racism, or the systemic oppression and harm that people of color face every day in this country?
If it’s the former, that’s white privilege in its purest form.
If it’s the latter, it’s very unclear from this post
LizD, I never said ALL white people - I said SOME.
Racism is a system of power. Who holds the power in this county?
And to echo JennP, definitely would like to know what you're most upset about.
I don't understand what is unclear in what I said - I said lumping ANY group together is unacceptable and should not be tolerated. If you are reading that as white privilege than you are just reading into what you want - which is where a lot of the country's problems come from. Seeing what one wants to see.
I’m not “seeing what I want to see.” I am drawing conclusions from your words in prior posts because you haven’t answered my question. Feel free to do so.
not white privilege - and yes you are seeing what you want to see. I am upset for any group that gets lumped together and opinions formed just because of what color you are, what you do for a living (cops, football players, etc). I have no problem with someone protesting but I do have a problem with disrespecting the flag, regardless of that color you are !! Everything is not always about color - but it goes back to seeing what one wants to see. By the way - I am in a multi-racial family and I am not prejudice - but it was nice of you to sit and judge me from words on a screen - especially when the words were saying it is wrong do lump any group together - somehow on your screen that shows up as lumping whites together. Just seeing what you want to see
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LizD
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Re: #burnyournikes
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Posted by starbrightgirl8
Posted by LizD
racism is racism - what is reverse racism??? So what you are saying is that only white people can be racist? Seriously - you don't know of any non-whites that don't like a group of people simply because of their color??
Reverse racism is the idea that in trying to correct racism, e.g., affirmative action, you're being racist again whites. That has been shown to not exist, because basically whites are already at such an advantage, that even if you give non-whites some preference it doesn't result in hurting white candidates across the board.
I'm sure some forms of racism exists against whites, but to suggest it is in any way the same as the systemic racism that blacks have faced for generations feels like a an attempt to diminish the actual affects of racism in our society. The fact that someone lumped all white people together or even called a white person a derogatory term is not the same as the discrimination that black Americans have been subjected to in almost every aspect of life from employment to healthcare to education to housing, etc.
I understand what you are saying but I find racism in any form against any group to be disgusting. I don't think it is right to lump any group together and make broad statements. I don't think it is right to do against black people and I don't think it is right to do against white people. I am not trying to diminish anything but this statement
The fact that someone lumped all white people together or even called a white person a derogatory term is not the same as the discrimination that black Americans have been subjected - etc - you are making it sound like it is ok because it is against white people. How is anything going to get better if any discrimination is acceptable. All discrimination, against any group should be unacceptable. And I am sorry but the intent was that only white people are racist and that is far from true. Again, not to diminish what anyone has gone through, but I personally think it is wrong for anyone to act that way
But what are you MORE upset about: White people being lumped together in a statement about racism, or the systemic oppression and harm that people of color face every day in this country?
If it’s the former, that’s white privilege in its purest form.
If it’s the latter, it’s very unclear from this post
LizD, I never said ALL white people - I said SOME.
Racism is a system of power. Who holds the power in this county?
And to echo JennP, definitely would like to know what you're most upset about.
I don't understand what is unclear in what I said - I said lumping ANY group together is unacceptable and should not be tolerated. If you are reading that as white privilege than you are just reading into what you want - which is where a lot of the country's problems come from. Seeing what one wants to see.
I’m not “seeing what I want to see.” I am drawing conclusions from your words in prior posts because you haven’t answered my question. Feel free to do so.
Fragility. When it's pointed out that "white people" do something, all of a sudden "lumping people together" is wrong. But they have no problem doing it to other people. Whataboutism.
no one reads - I said several times lumping any people together is wrong.
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LizD
LIF Adolescent
Member since 4/06 763 total posts
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Re: #burnyournikes
Posted by mrsrainbow
Posted by Sash
Posted by mrsrainbow
Posted by Sash
Posted by mrsrainbow
I think people are hung up on the semantics of the word "sacrifice."
If you have any sense of social justice at all, you'll understand the importance of Kapernick's choices. If you reduce him to nothing more than some "dumb mouthpiece" then you're truly missing the point and probably your racist microagressions are showing.
White people will never, ever understand the plight of people of color and the abuse they face in our society in 2018. Every time a person of color attempts to bring awareness to said plight, white people lose their shitt.
So all the black including myself who think he is dumb is racists?
Never did I say that - my post is directed towards how some white people lose their minds when black people stand up for themselves.
But that’s the thing, it’s not only white people and the comment is basically saying anyone who disagrees with him is racists or is showing racial tendencies. I have a right and anyone to believe in respecting the flag while agreeing this country needs change and is f#cked up. Doesn’t make someone racists.
Yes I’m sure racists people came out but it’s not the entire group.
I will walk back my statement because I will never speak or presume to speak on behalf of people of color - I only intended to comment in regards to white people.
just going back over it - no where do you say "some" white people - you said white people - more than once. So, to me that is discrimination again white people. If anyone had done that and wrote black people you would be up in arms. It is NOT RIGHT TO DO IT TO EITHER GROUP. I hope that is clear enough for everyone to understand. I am not saying it should not be done again white's - it SHOUDLD NOT BE DONE AGAINST ANY GROUP - BLACK, WHITE, ASIAN ETC
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| Posted 9/10/18 6:34 PM |
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Re: #burnyournikes
Posted by LizD
Posted by mrsrainbow
Posted by JennP
Posted by LizD
Posted by starbrightgirl8
Posted by LizD
racism is racism - what is reverse racism??? So what you are saying is that only white people can be racist? Seriously - you don't know of any non-whites that don't like a group of people simply because of their color??
Reverse racism is the idea that in trying to correct racism, e.g., affirmative action, you're being racist again whites. That has been shown to not exist, because basically whites are already at such an advantage, that even if you give non-whites some preference it doesn't result in hurting white candidates across the board.
I'm sure some forms of racism exists against whites, but to suggest it is in any way the same as the systemic racism that blacks have faced for generations feels like a an attempt to diminish the actual affects of racism in our society. The fact that someone lumped all white people together or even called a white person a derogatory term is not the same as the discrimination that black Americans have been subjected to in almost every aspect of life from employment to healthcare to education to housing, etc.
I understand what you are saying but I find racism in any form against any group to be disgusting. I don't think it is right to lump any group together and make broad statements. I don't think it is right to do against black people and I don't think it is right to do against white people. I am not trying to diminish anything but this statement
The fact that someone lumped all white people together or even called a white person a derogatory term is not the same as the discrimination that black Americans have been subjected - etc - you are making it sound like it is ok because it is against white people. How is anything going to get better if any discrimination is acceptable. All discrimination, against any group should be unacceptable. And I am sorry but the intent was that only white people are racist and that is far from true. Again, not to diminish what anyone has gone through, but I personally think it is wrong for anyone to act that way
But what are you MORE upset about: White people being lumped together in a statement about racism, or the systemic oppression and harm that people of color face every day in this country?
If it’s the former, that’s white privilege in its purest form.
If it’s the latter, it’s very unclear from this post
LizD, I never said ALL white people - I said SOME.
Racism is a system of power. Who holds the power in this county?
And to echo JennP, definitely would like to know what you're most upset about.
I don't understand what is unclear in what I said - I said lumping ANY group together is unacceptable and should not be tolerated. If you are reading that as white privilege than you are just reading into what you want - which is where a lot of the country's problems come from. Seeing what one wants to see.
Are you an all lives matter person too?
Yes, making blanket statements about groups can misrepresent members of that group, but that doesn't make it racism or the same as racism.
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| Posted 9/10/18 6:46 PM |
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JennP
LIF Adult
Member since 10/06 3986 total posts
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Re: #burnyournikes
Posted by LizD
Posted by JennP
Posted by LizD
Posted by mrsrainbow
Posted by JennP
Posted by LizD
Posted by starbrightgirl8
Posted by LizD
racism is racism - what is reverse racism??? So what you are saying is that only white people can be racist? Seriously - you don't know of any non-whites that don't like a group of people simply because of their color??
Reverse racism is the idea that in trying to correct racism, e.g., affirmative action, you're being racist again whites. That has been shown to not exist, because basically whites are already at such an advantage, that even if you give non-whites some preference it doesn't result in hurting white candidates across the board.
I'm sure some forms of racism exists against whites, but to suggest it is in any way the same as the systemic racism that blacks have faced for generations feels like a an attempt to diminish the actual affects of racism in our society. The fact that someone lumped all white people together or even called a white person a derogatory term is not the same as the discrimination that black Americans have been subjected to in almost every aspect of life from employment to healthcare to education to housing, etc.
I understand what you are saying but I find racism in any form against any group to be disgusting. I don't think it is right to lump any group together and make broad statements. I don't think it is right to do against black people and I don't think it is right to do against white people. I am not trying to diminish anything but this statement
The fact that someone lumped all white people together or even called a white person a derogatory term is not the same as the discrimination that black Americans have been subjected - etc - you are making it sound like it is ok because it is against white people. How is anything going to get better if any discrimination is acceptable. All discrimination, against any group should be unacceptable. And I am sorry but the intent was that only white people are racist and that is far from true. Again, not to diminish what anyone has gone through, but I personally think it is wrong for anyone to act that way
But what are you MORE upset about: White people being lumped together in a statement about racism, or the systemic oppression and harm that people of color face every day in this country?
If it’s the former, that’s white privilege in its purest form.
If it’s the latter, it’s very unclear from this post
LizD, I never said ALL white people - I said SOME.
Racism is a system of power. Who holds the power in this county?
And to echo JennP, definitely would like to know what you're most upset about.
I don't understand what is unclear in what I said - I said lumping ANY group together is unacceptable and should not be tolerated. If you are reading that as white privilege than you are just reading into what you want - which is where a lot of the country's problems come from. Seeing what one wants to see.
I’m not “seeing what I want to see.” I am drawing conclusions from your words in prior posts because you haven’t answered my question. Feel free to do so.
not white privilege - and yes you are seeing what you want to see. I am upset for any group that gets lumped together and opinions formed just because of what color you are, what you do for a living (cops, football players, etc). I have no problem with someone protesting but I do have a problem with disrespecting the flag, regardless of that color you are !! Everything is not always about color - but it goes back to seeing what one wants to see. By the way - I am in a multi-racial family and I am not prejudice - but it was nice of you to sit and judge me from words on a screen - especially when the words were saying it is wrong do lump any group together - somehow on your screen that shows up as lumping whites together. Just seeing what you want to see
You still haven't answered my question.
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| Posted 9/10/18 8:03 PM |
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LizD
LIF Adolescent
Member since 4/06 763 total posts
Name:
Liz
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Re: #burnyournikes
Posted by JennP
Posted by LizD
Posted by JennP
Posted by LizD
Posted by mrsrainbow
Posted by JennP
Posted by LizD
Posted by starbrightgirl8
Posted by LizD
racism is racism - what is reverse racism??? So what you are saying is that only white people can be racist? Seriously - you don't know of any non-whites that don't like a group of people simply because of their color??
Reverse racism is the idea that in trying to correct racism, e.g., affirmative action, you're being racist again whites. That has been shown to not exist, because basically whites are already at such an advantage, that even if you give non-whites some preference it doesn't result in hurting white candidates across the board.
I'm sure some forms of racism exists against whites, but to suggest it is in any way the same as the systemic racism that blacks have faced for generations feels like a an attempt to diminish the actual affects of racism in our society. The fact that someone lumped all white people together or even called a white person a derogatory term is not the same as the discrimination that black Americans have been subjected to in almost every aspect of life from employment to healthcare to education to housing, etc.
I understand what you are saying but I find racism in any form against any group to be disgusting. I don't think it is right to lump any group together and make broad statements. I don't think it is right to do against black people and I don't think it is right to do against white people. I am not trying to diminish anything but this statement
The fact that someone lumped all white people together or even called a white person a derogatory term is not the same as the discrimination that black Americans have been subjected - etc - you are making it sound like it is ok because it is against white people. How is anything going to get better if any discrimination is acceptable. All discrimination, against any group should be unacceptable. And I am sorry but the intent was that only white people are racist and that is far from true. Again, not to diminish what anyone has gone through, but I personally think it is wrong for anyone to act that way
But what are you MORE upset about: White people being lumped together in a statement about racism, or the systemic oppression and harm that people of color face every day in this country?
If it’s the former, that’s white privilege in its purest form.
If it’s the latter, it’s very unclear from this post
LizD, I never said ALL white people - I said SOME.
Racism is a system of power. Who holds the power in this county?
And to echo JennP, definitely would like to know what you're most upset about.
I don't understand what is unclear in what I said - I said lumping ANY group together is unacceptable and should not be tolerated. If you are reading that as white privilege than you are just reading into what you want - which is where a lot of the country's problems come from. Seeing what one wants to see.
I’m not “seeing what I want to see.” I am drawing conclusions from your words in prior posts because you haven’t answered my question. Feel free to do so.
not white privilege - and yes you are seeing what you want to see. I am upset for any group that gets lumped together and opinions formed just because of what color you are, what you do for a living (cops, football players, etc). I have no problem with someone protesting but I do have a problem with disrespecting the flag, regardless of that color you are !! Everything is not always about color - but it goes back to seeing what one wants to see. By the way - I am in a multi-racial family and I am not prejudice - but it was nice of you to sit and judge me from words on a screen - especially when the words were saying it is wrong do lump any group together - somehow on your screen that shows up as lumping whites together. Just seeing what you want to see
You still haven't answered my question.
But what are you MORE upset about: White people being lumped together in a statement about racism, or the systemic oppression and harm that people of color face every day in this country?
If it’s the former, that’s white privilege in its purest form.
If it’s the latter, it’s very unclear from this post
I am upset about both
I am upset about ANY group being lumped together in a broad statement for any reason. It's like saying ALL cops are murderers, ALL whites hate Blacks - ALL blacks hate whites. I find every one of those statements offensive.
I am also upset that any person, regardless of color, religion, etc would face oppression and harm in any form anywhere, not just in this country.
Like I said I am from a multi-racial family and I have seen and experienced prejudice. But I don't think taking any group and lumping them together is an answer or the right way to go about it. Isn't it like people lumping together all blacks and making a broad, racial statement? I don't understand why you think this is OK?
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mrsrainbow
LIF Adult
Member since 1/17 1465 total posts
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Re: #burnyournikes
Posted by LizD
Posted by JennP
Posted by LizD
Posted by JennP
Posted by LizD
Posted by mrsrainbow
Posted by JennP
Posted by LizD
Posted by starbrightgirl8
Posted by LizD
racism is racism - what is reverse racism??? So what you are saying is that only white people can be racist? Seriously - you don't know of any non-whites that don't like a group of people simply because of their color??
Reverse racism is the idea that in trying to correct racism, e.g., affirmative action, you're being racist again whites. That has been shown to not exist, because basically whites are already at such an advantage, that even if you give non-whites some preference it doesn't result in hurting white candidates across the board.
I'm sure some forms of racism exists against whites, but to suggest it is in any way the same as the systemic racism that blacks have faced for generations feels like a an attempt to diminish the actual affects of racism in our society. The fact that someone lumped all white people together or even called a white person a derogatory term is not the same as the discrimination that black Americans have been subjected to in almost every aspect of life from employment to healthcare to education to housing, etc.
I understand what you are saying but I find racism in any form against any group to be disgusting. I don't think it is right to lump any group together and make broad statements. I don't think it is right to do against black people and I don't think it is right to do against white people. I am not trying to diminish anything but this statement
The fact that someone lumped all white people together or even called a white person a derogatory term is not the same as the discrimination that black Americans have been subjected - etc - you are making it sound like it is ok because it is against white people. How is anything going to get better if any discrimination is acceptable. All discrimination, against any group should be unacceptable. And I am sorry but the intent was that only white people are racist and that is far from true. Again, not to diminish what anyone has gone through, but I personally think it is wrong for anyone to act that way
But what are you MORE upset about: White people being lumped together in a statement about racism, or the systemic oppression and harm that people of color face every day in this country?
If it’s the former, that’s white privilege in its purest form.
If it’s the latter, it’s very unclear from this post
LizD, I never said ALL white people - I said SOME.
Racism is a system of power. Who holds the power in this county?
And to echo JennP, definitely would like to know what you're most upset about.
I don't understand what is unclear in what I said - I said lumping ANY group together is unacceptable and should not be tolerated. If you are reading that as white privilege than you are just reading into what you want - which is where a lot of the country's problems come from. Seeing what one wants to see.
I’m not “seeing what I want to see.” I am drawing conclusions from your words in prior posts because you haven’t answered my question. Feel free to do so.
not white privilege - and yes you are seeing what you want to see. I am upset for any group that gets lumped together and opinions formed just because of what color you are, what you do for a living (cops, football players, etc). I have no problem with someone protesting but I do have a problem with disrespecting the flag, regardless of that color you are !! Everything is not always about color - but it goes back to seeing what one wants to see. By the way - I am in a multi-racial family and I am not prejudice - but it was nice of you to sit and judge me from words on a screen - especially when the words were saying it is wrong do lump any group together - somehow on your screen that shows up as lumping whites together. Just seeing what you want to see
You still haven't answered my question.
But what are you MORE upset about: White people being lumped together in a statement about racism, or the systemic oppression and harm that people of color face every day in this country?
If it’s the former, that’s white privilege in its purest form.
If it’s the latter, it’s very unclear from this post
I am upset about both
I am upset about ANY group being lumped together in a broad statement for any reason. It's like saying ALL cops are murderers, ALL whites hate Blacks - ALL blacks hate whites. I find every one of those statements offensive.
I am also upset that any person, regardless of color, religion, etc would face oppression and harm in any form anywhere, not just in this country.
Like I said I am from a multi-racial family and I have seen and experienced prejudice. But I don't think taking any group and lumping them together is an answer or the right way to go about it. Isn't it like people lumping together all blacks and making a broad, racial statement? I don't understand why you think this is OK?
Being from a multiracial family does not mean you are exempt from being racist, prejudiced or a bigot (I am not calling you those names, just saying anyone who is in a multiracial family doesn't automatically make someone "not racist").
If you feel so strongly about people facing oppression and harm in this country, then why do you care more about disrespecting the flag?
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mrsrainbow
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Re: #burnyournikes
Posted by LizD
Posted by mrsrainbow
Posted by Sash
Posted by mrsrainbow
Posted by Sash
Posted by mrsrainbow
I think people are hung up on the semantics of the word "sacrifice."
If you have any sense of social justice at all, you'll understand the importance of Kapernick's choices. If you reduce him to nothing more than some "dumb mouthpiece" then you're truly missing the point and probably your racist microagressions are showing.
White people will never, ever understand the plight of people of color and the abuse they face in our society in 2018. Every time a person of color attempts to bring awareness to said plight, white people lose their shitt.
So all the black including myself who think he is dumb is racists?
Never did I say that - my post is directed towards how some white people lose their minds when black people stand up for themselves.
But that’s the thing, it’s not only white people and the comment is basically saying anyone who disagrees with him is racists or is showing racial tendencies. I have a right and anyone to believe in respecting the flag while agreeing this country needs change and is f#cked up. Doesn’t make someone racists.
Yes I’m sure racists people came out but it’s not the entire group.
I will walk back my statement because I will never speak or presume to speak on behalf of people of color - I only intended to comment in regards to white people.
just going back over it - no where do you say "some" white people - you said white people - more than once. So, to me that is discrimination again white people. If anyone had done that and wrote black people you would be up in arms. It is NOT RIGHT TO DO IT TO EITHER GROUP. I hope that is clear enough for everyone to understand. I am not saying it should not be done again white's - it SHOUDLD NOT BE DONE AGAINST ANY GROU
STOP BEING SUCH A FRAGILE WHITE PERSON WHO CAN'T HANDLE BEING CALLED A WHITE PERSON
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LizD
LIF Adolescent
Member since 4/06 763 total posts
Name:
Liz
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Re: #burnyournikes
Posted by mrsrainbow
Posted by LizD
Posted by mrsrainbow
Posted by Sash
Posted by mrsrainbow
Posted by Sash
Posted by mrsrainbow
I think people are hung up on the semantics of the word "sacrifice."
If you have any sense of social justice at all, you'll understand the importance of Kapernick's choices. If you reduce him to nothing more than some "dumb mouthpiece" then you're truly missing the point and probably your racist microagressions are showing.
White people will never, ever understand the plight of people of color and the abuse they face in our society in 2018. Every time a person of color attempts to bring awareness to said plight, white people lose their shitt.
So all the black including myself who think he is dumb is racists?
Never did I say that - my post is directed towards how some white people lose their minds when black people stand up for themselves.
But that’s the thing, it’s not only white people and the comment is basically saying anyone who disagrees with him is racists or is showing racial tendencies. I have a right and anyone to believe in respecting the flag while agreeing this country needs change and is f#cked up. Doesn’t make someone racists.
Yes I’m sure racists people came out but it’s not the entire group.
I will walk back my statement because I will never speak or presume to speak on behalf of people of color - I only intended to comment in regards to white people.
just going back over it - no where do you say "some" white people - you said white people - more than once. So, to me that is discrimination again white people. If anyone had done that and wrote black people you would be up in arms. It is NOT RIGHT TO DO IT TO EITHER GROUP. I hope that is clear enough for everyone to understand. I am not saying it should not be done again white's - it SHOUDLD NOT BE DONE AGAINST ANY GROU
STOP BEING SUCH A FRAGILE WHITE PERSON WHO CAN'T HANDLE BEING CALLED A WHITE PERSON
OMG - - I guess it's easier to call me a fragile white person than to admit you are a racist - and you did not like being called out on it.
If anyone had called anyone a "fragile - any other color" there would be hell to pay and they would be called racist!! Seriously why can't there be a discussion without name calling. That/you are part of the ongoing problems!!
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LizD
LIF Adolescent
Member since 4/06 763 total posts
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Re: #burnyournikes
Posted by mrsrainbow
Posted by LizD
Posted by JennP
Posted by LizD
Posted by JennP
Posted by LizD
Posted by mrsrainbow
Posted by JennP
Posted by LizD
Posted by starbrightgirl8
Posted by LizD
racism is racism - what is reverse racism??? So what you are saying is that only white people can be racist? Seriously - you don't know of any non-whites that don't like a group of people simply because of their color??
Reverse racism is the idea that in trying to correct racism, e.g., affirmative action, you're being racist again whites. That has been shown to not exist, because basically whites are already at such an advantage, that even if you give non-whites some preference it doesn't result in hurting white candidates across the board.
I'm sure some forms of racism exists against whites, but to suggest it is in any way the same as the systemic racism that blacks have faced for generations feels like a an attempt to diminish the actual affects of racism in our society. The fact that someone lumped all white people together or even called a white person a derogatory term is not the same as the discrimination that black Americans have been subjected to in almost every aspect of life from employment to healthcare to education to housing, etc.
I understand what you are saying but I find racism in any form against any group to be disgusting. I don't think it is right to lump any group together and make broad statements. I don't think it is right to do against black people and I don't think it is right to do against white people. I am not trying to diminish anything but this statement
The fact that someone lumped all white people together or even called a white person a derogatory term is not the same as the discrimination that black Americans have been subjected - etc - you are making it sound like it is ok because it is against white people. How is anything going to get better if any discrimination is acceptable. All discrimination, against any group should be unacceptable. And I am sorry but the intent was that only white people are racist and that is far from true. Again, not to diminish what anyone has gone through, but I personally think it is wrong for anyone to act that way
But what are you MORE upset about: White people being lumped together in a statement about racism, or the systemic oppression and harm that people of color face every day in this country?
If it’s the former, that’s white privilege in its purest form.
If it’s the latter, it’s very unclear from this post
LizD, I never said ALL white people - I said SOME.
Racism is a system of power. Who holds the power in this county?
And to echo JennP, definitely would like to know what you're most upset about.
I don't understand what is unclear in what I said - I said lumping ANY group together is unacceptable and should not be tolerated. If you are reading that as white privilege than you are just reading into what you want - which is where a lot of the country's problems come from. Seeing what one wants to see.
I’m not “seeing what I want to see.” I am drawing conclusions from your words in prior posts because you haven’t answered my question. Feel free to do so.
not white privilege - and yes you are seeing what you want to see. I am upset for any group that gets lumped together and opinions formed just because of what color you are, what you do for a living (cops, football players, etc). I have no problem with someone protesting but I do have a problem with disrespecting the flag, regardless of that color you are !! Everything is not always about color - but it goes back to seeing what one wants to see. By the way - I am in a multi-racial family and I am not prejudice - but it was nice of you to sit and judge me from words on a screen - especially when the words were saying it is wrong do lump any group together - somehow on your screen that shows up as lumping whites together. Just seeing what you want to see
You still haven't answered my question.
But what are you MORE upset about: White people being lumped together in a statement about racism, or the systemic oppression and harm that people of color face every day in this country?
If it’s the former, that’s white privilege in its purest form.
If it’s the latter, it’s very unclear from this post
I am upset about both
I am upset about ANY group being lumped together in a broad statement for any reason. It's like saying ALL cops are murderers, ALL whites hate Blacks - ALL blacks hate whites. I find every one of those statements offensive.
I am also upset that any person, regardless of color, religion, etc would face oppression and harm in any form anywhere, not just in this country.
Like I said I am from a multi-racial family and I have seen and experienced prejudice. But I don't think taking any group and lumping them together is an answer or the right way to go about it. Isn't it like people lumping together all blacks and making a broad, racial statement? I don't understand why you think this is OK?
Being from a multiracial family does not mean you are exempt from being racist, prejudiced or a bigot (I am not calling you those names, just saying anyone who is in a multiracial family doesn't automatically make someone "not racist").
If you feel so strongly about people facing oppression and harm in this country, then why do you care more about disrespecting the flag?
I never said I care more about one over the other. Not sure where you read that one. I care about both but that does not mean I have to agree with the way everyone goes about protesting. I don't agree with a lot of ways issues are protested- doesn't mean I don't agree with the cause.
I am from a military family and I have pride in most - again MOST (making sure I am clear) aspects of my country and I find it wrong to disrespect the flag. That is my opinion and I have the right to have it - just like anyone taking a knee has the right to do that as well.
Is it ok to burn buildings, loiter, and hurt people during protests? I hope you say no to that as I would. I may agree with the reason they were there to protest, but I do not agree with the way it was done. Because I don't agree with that behavior - is that wrong - does that also make me a racist as you and mrsrainbow seem so persistent in making me out to be?
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