Re: Wwyd?

Posted by CL2012

I would leave the baby in the car. I would probably even leave it running, in park with the park brake on If the situation is as you described, the REAL risk is pretty much non existent. If you ran the statistics, the risk of the baby getting injured walking with you in the parking lot is probably higher.

I recently read this article which is very fitting for your situation: Why Do We Judge Parents for Putting Kids at Perceived - But Unreal - Risk?

http://www.npr.org/sections/13.7/2016/08/22/490847797/why-do-we-judge-parents-for-putting-kids-at-perceived-but-unreal-risk

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Its a pain. But dont leave baby in the car. My chest is having heart palpatations just thinking about this.

Wwyd?

Hell no. Is it inconvenient? Yes. Have we all had to suck it up and do it? Absolutely.

I would never, ever leave my baby in the car even for 2 minutes. Like previous people have said, you might not be in and out on some days. Don't put convenience over safety.

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Posted by Hopefulmama

Posted by CL2012

I would leave the baby in the car. I would probably even leave it running, in park with the park brake on If the situation is as you described, the REAL risk is pretty much non existent. If you ran the statistics, the risk of the baby getting injured walking with you in the parking lot is probably higher.

I recently read this article which is very fitting for your situation: Why Do We Judge Parents for Putting Kids at Perceived - But Unreal - Risk?

http://www.npr.org/sections/13.7/2016/08/22/490847797/why-do-we-judge-parents-for-putting-kids-at-perceived-but-unreal-risk

I was going to quote this very article. The risk of the situation you described is almost nil and you probably run a bigger chance of slipping on ice, etc, carrying the carrier in the winter. the biggest risk you run by leaving the baby in the car honestly is judgement of the other moms and the fear that some vigilant nut who probably makes a million bad parenting decisions that you would never do would call that cops ;). In my situation, I had triplets, and whenever I would drive anywhere alone with the babies, I would unload one baby at a time, bring the carrier inside, and race out to remove the other two. Even though I raced as fast I could, there was always 30 seconds where the other babies were out of my site. Oh, well. It's life and I'm not an octopus lol. Now they are older and my one son has a physical and developmental disability and guess what? He stays in the car too With the very important caveat that I am only mere steps away and the car does not leave my line of vision at all. It's safer sometimes that way. I would say it's up to you.

I did get judgment from a particular friend, one who used baby bumpers which has far more documented risk than what you are proposing. It just goes to show all moms have different ideas as to what is risky. We all have a different cost/benefit analysis.

Message edited 9/13/2016 1:53:12 PM.

Wwyd?

Interesting opinions. Thanks for all the responses! I definitely will be bringing baby with me to the door the majority of the time, I'm talking about those brutally cold/icy days where it might actually be dangerous if I slip with the baby in the carrier. And, actually, by the bitter part of winter, he will be about 10 months, and he's already huge, so by then he might not even be in the infant carseat anymore, which would mean having to take him out without any protection from the cold except coat. And we've all been drilled about how you can't buckle a baby into the carseat w a winter coat on, so that adds to the dilemma a bit. I would have to expose him to the cold multiple times,to get his coat on and off getting him in and out of the car. Then trying to carry and heavy wriggly baby up an icy sidewalk. Just seems more dangerous than letting him stay in the car w a blanket on.

And it has nothing to do with what's convenient for me. I'm more worried about what's best for my baby.I will feel awful dragging him out into the freezing cold.

Message edited 9/13/2016 6:53:28 PM.

Wwyd?

I don't know. If it's literally 15 feet away and you aren't losing sight of the car then probably. I'll have an infant come November aND my DS in nursery school. I have to go it the school to get my DS so there is no way I'd ever leave baby in the car. But it sounds lIke a completely different situation. I guess.I am having a tough time picturing your pick up situation. Just trust your gut! I'd be more scared someone sees a baby in the car alone for a split second and decides to call the cops then any real danger to the baby.

Wwyd?

If you have to go IN the building, even through one door and can see out of it, I would probably say no. If the teacher meets you at the actual door and brings your child out, then I think it's probably fine.

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Posted by Hopefulmama

Posted by CL2012

I would leave the baby in the car. I would probably even leave it running, in park with the park brake on If the situation is as you described, the REAL risk is pretty much non existent. If you ran the statistics, the risk of the baby getting injured walking with you in the parking lot is probably higher.

I recently read this article which is very fitting for your situation: Why Do We Judge Parents for Putting Kids at Perceived - But Unreal - Risk?

http://www.npr.org/sections/13.7/2016/08/22/490847797/why-do-we-judge-parents-for-putting-kids-at-perceived-but-unreal-risk

I was going to quote this very article. The risk of the situation you described is almost nil and you probably run a bigger chance of slipping on ice, etc, carrying the carrier in the winter. the biggest risk you run by leaving the baby in the car honestly is judgement of the other moms and the fear that some vigilant nut who probably makes a million bad parenting decisions that you would never do would call that cops ;). In my situation, I had triplets, and whenever I would drive anywhere alone with the babies, I would unload one baby at a time, bring the carrier inside, and race out to remove the other two. Even though I raced as fast I could, there was always 30 seconds where the other babies were out of my site. Oh, well. It's life and I'm not an octopus lol. Now they are older and my one son has a physical and developmental disability and guess what? He stays in the car too With the very important caveat that I am only mere steps away and the car does not leave my line of vision at all. It's safer sometimes that way. I would say it's up to you.

I did get judgment from a particular friend, one who used baby bumpers which has far more documented risk than what you are proposing. It just goes to show all moms have different ideas as to what is risky. We all have a different cost/benefit analysis.

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Wwyd?

I think you can leave him in the car.

This reminded me of what my parents said that moms did in the 1960s in Manhattan. They would leave their kids in the carriage outside the building while they walked up the five-story walk up to bring their groceries to their apartment! I think they would even park the stroller outside the supermarket while they did the shopping!

Wwyd?

You don't even go in the building? I would leave the baby in the car and not think twice about it.

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Posted by LiveItUp

Posted by Hopefulmama

Posted by CL2012

I would leave the baby in the car. I would probably even leave it running, in park with the park brake on If the situation is as you described, the REAL risk is pretty much non existent. If you ran the statistics, the risk of the baby getting injured walking with you in the parking lot is probably higher.

I recently read this article which is very fitting for your situation: Why Do We Judge Parents for Putting Kids at Perceived - But Unreal - Risk?

http://www.npr.org/sections/13.7/2016/08/22/490847797/why-do-we-judge-parents-for-putting-kids-at-perceived-but-unreal-risk

I was going to quote this very article. The risk of the situation you described is almost nil and you probably run a bigger chance of slipping on ice, etc, carrying the carrier in the winter. the biggest risk you run by leaving the baby in the car honestly is judgement of the other moms and the fear that some vigilant nut who probably makes a million bad parenting decisions that you would never do would call that cops ;). In my situation, I had triplets, and whenever I would drive anywhere alone with the babies, I would unload one baby at a time, bring the carrier inside, and race out to remove the other two. Even though I raced as fast I could, there was always 30 seconds where the other babies were out of my site. Oh, well. It's life and I'm not an octopus lol. Now they are older and my one son has a physical and developmental disability and guess what? He stays in the car too With the very important caveat that I am only mere steps away and the car does not leave my line of vision at all. It's safer sometimes that way. I would say it's up to you.

I did get judgment from a particular friend, one who used baby bumpers which has far more documented risk than what you are proposing. It just goes to show all moms have different ideas as to what is risky. We all have a different cost/benefit analysis.

Very interesting article. It is sad that parents judge other parents, especially since most parents only want the best for their kids and try their hardest to achieve that, even if it might be a different way than someone else might do it. Its also sad that I'm probably going to end up having to expose my baby to freezing temps and possibly slip and fall on ice while carrying him just to avoid someone calling the cops on me.

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I was in a similar situation with my 2. And thankfully the school helped me. It was about 15 steps to the door, but then the stairs went down, so I wouldn't see the car for at least 30 seconds. Too much for me personally, so the teacher said I could call them when I arrive & they would sign him out for me & walk him up the stairs to the walkway. Sometimes they walked him to the car depending on how busy they were. But if I didn't have that, I would have made a deal with another parent to help me out on days like that.

And above all, you do what you are comfortable with. Hope that helps And good on you for seeking out new perspectives on situations like these. Sometimes it just helps you realize what you knew all along.

Wwyd?

I had this situation last year when my dd was born in January. I took her in with me every time - but she was in the infant carrier. Will your baby still be in the carrier? If I had to take db out of the convertible and re-strap every time, OMG - I think I would leave her in. That would be so annoying. But the carrier just snaps in and out, so that wasn't a big deal (although it was annoyingly heavy!)

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Wwyd?

If the baby is in the infant seat I would take them with me. A carrier is meant to withstand impact if you fell on ice. If the baby is in a convertible seat I would leave them in the car. It is far more likely that you will slip on ice carrying the baby than anything happening to the baby in the car. It's actually surprising to me that people wouldn't realize this. It isn't a convenience issue, it's a legitimate safety issue. If my options were let some mom judge me or potentially drop my child on ice I'd pick judgement every time.

Let people judge you. Let them call the cops. You'll be long gone by the time the cops show up and even if you weren't they would do nothing- you are 15 feet away in sub zero temps.

Message edited 9/14/2016 11:01:38 AM.

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Posted by NervousNell

Posted by Pomegranate5

Posted by Kate

You don't even go in the building? I would leave the baby in the car and not think twice about it.

This.

You *might* get a judgmental look but no one is going to call the cops or do anything drastic if you are always within sight.

And you're right, it's probably safer to leave the baby in the car for 30 seconds. Some of the responses on this thread are a little over the top.

If someone actually called the cops, you'd be gone before they even arrived.
Then it's just your word against the whistle blower.

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Can you ask one of the other moms to bring her out to you. I did this last year for a mom who's newborn who was born in Oct. I offered and she was so happy. She told the teacher I would be taking her to the car and it worked great.

Message edited 9/14/2016 2:25:49 PM.

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In this scenario I would leave the baby in the car.

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Posted by SecretlyTTC14

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by Pomegranate5

Posted by Kate

You don't even go in the building? I would leave the baby in the car and not think twice about it.

This.

You *might* get a judgmental look but no one is going to call the cops or do anything drastic if you are always within sight.

And you're right, it's probably safer to leave the baby in the car for 30 seconds. Some of the responses on this thread are a little over the top.

If someone actually called the cops, you'd be gone before they even arrived.
Then it's just your word against the whistle blower.

I guess the whistle blower took video or pics so the one mom mentioned in that article was still arrested. People are nuts and will report it (maybe out of actual concern or probably just spite). I think it's safer in the car for the baby but knowing that some people are so quick to call 911, it's not even worth the chance.

I've gotten looks from other parents very recently after putting DS in his car seat and then locking the car (using remote start so the air comes on) to walk the shopping cart back to the return area. I'm talking 10 steps away. They stopped dead in their tracks to watch what I was gonna do next. Like I was gonna walk back into the store without DS or something. People are nuts.

Re: Wwyd?

Posted by SecretlyTTC14

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by Pomegranate5

Posted by Kate

You don't even go in the building? I would leave the baby in the car and not think twice about it.

This.

You *might* get a judgmental look but no one is going to call the cops or do anything drastic if you are always within sight.

And you're right, it's probably safer to leave the baby in the car for 30 seconds. Some of the responses on this thread are a little over the top.

If someone actually called the cops, you'd be gone before they even arrived.
Then it's just your word against the whistle blower.

I guess the whistle blower took video or pics so the one mom mentioned in that article was still arrested. People are nuts and will report it (maybe out of actual concern or probably just spite). I think it's safer in the car for the baby but knowing that some people are so quick to call 911, it's not even worth the chance.

I've gotten looks from other parents very recently after putting DS in his car seat and then locking the car (using remote start so the air comes on) to walk the shopping cart back to the return area. I'm talking 10 steps away. They stopped dead in their tracks to watch what I was gonna do next. Like I was gonna walk back into the store without DS or something. People are nuts.