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MrsRivera
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Re: wwyd??
Posted by Porrruss
I think it's really easy to say what you THINK you would do in this situation. Really easy. Actually BEING in it is something entirely different. Especially when you have a young baby who isn't fully mobile yet.
Sorry- but if Luna actually BIT one of my children it would be negligent to keep her. My children are my top priority. Luna snapped ONCE at Madelyn and we got a trainer in- and thankfully that resolved it. Had she actually BIT then there would have been no trainer because I would never trust her again, regardless of training. I can't live without some level of trust in the creatures around me.
Training dogs and teaching little ones to "be nice" only go so far. Once a child is a toddler it is virtually IMPOSSIBLE to keep an eye on them 100% of the time, once you put another toddler in the mix, it's even more difficult. Situations arise in a fraction of a second. Perhaps others' are more trusting than me, I don't know. I just know that the safety of my children come first. And I am an animal lover, truly.
I also believe that keeping an animal seperate from the family is cruel. My brother has done that with his dog and it's only made the situation more dire because now Ace is made to feel like he's no longer part of the pack- which breeds more hostility. That poor dog sits on the other side of a gate while everyone else is in another room because he can't be trusted.
ITA with ALL of this. I actually don't have anything to add, really, because this hits on all the major points.
To isolate the animal because it can't be trusted would be cruel--especially if the animal is a dog--dogs thrive on human attention and affection. To take that from a dog every single day would not be responsible pet ownership, whether there's been a biting situation or not.
To have to pay for "doggie day care" every time your child has friends over would just be ridiculous and impractical.
I also believe that there are certain things about animals that we as human beings cannot change, as much as we might want to. Even Cesar Millan says that once a dog has bitten a child unprovoked, that dog can no longer be trusted.
I can't even IMAGINE what would happen if I had my dog "trained", just to have the dog get loose and attack my child in a worse way. I couldn't live with myself knowing that I had had the chance to prevent it.
ETA: Ok, I guess I did have something to add after all 
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Re: wwyd??
Posted by MrsRivera
To have to pay for "doggie day care" every time your child has friends over would just be ridiculous and impractical.
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I don't find it ridiculous at all to use doggie daycare to provide my dog with stimulation and enjoyment. It would be my pleasure to pay for doggie daycare once in a while (for something like having a bunch of children over). I don't see anything impractical about that at all. I have neighbors who bring their dog everyday b/c they work. I don't see a difference if the dog loves it.
Beth, you must be so relieved that you didn't get that pug after all with another baby on the way now! Dogs are definitely ALOT of work with small children, way more than cats. Small dogs tend to be the nippiest or biggest biters it seems. Maybe it's a fear or dominance but it's quite common.
For me, I would do anything and everything to avoid sending my pet off to some rescue group where he will sit waiting or eventually DIE after being bounced from HOME to home (with all the other dogs who maybe get excitable or nippy around children).   The reality is...There are so many households with children, with children coming in the future, with grandchildren, or grandchildren in the future. How many homes are realistically out there for dogs or cats who don't do well with children? Not many. 
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Re: wwyd??
Posted by MrsRivera
Posted by Porrruss
I think it's really easy to say what you THINK you would do in this situation. Really easy. Actually BEING in it is something entirely different. Especially when you have a young baby who isn't fully mobile yet.
Sorry- but if Luna actually BIT one of my children it would be negligent to keep her. My children are my top priority. Luna snapped ONCE at Madelyn and we got a trainer in- and thankfully that resolved it. Had she actually BIT then there would have been no trainer because I would never trust her again, regardless of training. I can't live without some level of trust in the creatures around me.
Training dogs and teaching little ones to "be nice" only go so far. Once a child is a toddler it is virtually IMPOSSIBLE to keep an eye on them 100% of the time, once you put another toddler in the mix, it's even more difficult. Situations arise in a fraction of a second. Perhaps others' are more trusting than me, I don't know. I just know that the safety of my children come first. And I am an animal lover, truly.
I also believe that keeping an animal seperate from the family is cruel. My brother has done that with his dog and it's only made the situation more dire because now Ace is made to feel like he's no longer part of the pack- which breeds more hostility. That poor dog sits on the other side of a gate while everyone else is in another room because he can't be trusted.
ITA with ALL of this. I actually don't have anything to add, really, because this hits on all the major points.
To isolate the animal because it can't be trusted would be cruel--especially if the animal is a dog--dogs thrive on human attention and affection. To take that from a dog every single day would not be responsible pet ownership, whether there's been a biting situation or not.
To have to pay for "doggie day care" every time your child has friends over would just be ridiculous and impractical.
I also believe that there are certain things about animals that we as human beings cannot change, as much as we might want to. Even Cesar Millan says that once a dog has bitten a child unprovoked, that dog can no longer be trusted.
I can't even IMAGINE what would happen if I had my dog "trained", just to have the dog get loose and attack my child in a worse way. I couldn't live with myself knowing that I had had the chance to prevent it.
ETA: Ok, I guess I did have something to add after all
ITA with all these points...I don't know if anyone read about a month ago a post of mine about my dog. She has bitten before, she bit our trainer, the groomer and my FIL... She's a chocolate lab mix and about 70 lbs..she's always been a nervous and skiddish dog, and the other day we had DD in her pack n play up against the bed and the dog was on our bed...DH hadn't been home for a while, he was traveling for buisiness and DD was reaching out to him, and I think the dog got possesive/jealous of DD where she showed teeth and growled right at her face, I snatched DD away immediately...
We've literally tried EVERYTHING with her, we have had a private trainer come in, we've had a behavorist, we've had her on calming pills for the past two years, everything imaginable we've tried...and now we're in this situation, that if she bared teeth and growled at my DD what will she do later...She's a big dog and even a nip from her has broken skin...I love this dog like she is my child, but at the same time, I'm terrified of what she's capable of, and to separate her all day will make her resent DD more..I have to say 99% of the time she's a mush, but she's unpredictable which scares me! She can snap for no reason...
It's the fraction of a second that was mentioned that terrifies me..DD is never alone with the dog right now, but she's not walking yet and honestly I am not sure how I'm going to handle that....
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Re: wwyd??
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ITA with all these points...I don't know if anyone read about a month ago a post of mine about my dog. She has bitten before, she bit our trainer, the groomer and my FIL... She's a chocolate lab mix and about 70 lbs..she's always been a nervous and skiddish dog, and the other day we had DD in her pack n play up against the bed and the dog was on our bed...DH hadn't been home for a while, he was traveling for buisiness and DD was reaching out to him, and I think the dog got possesive/jealous of DD where she showed teeth and growled right at her face, I snatched DD away immediately...
We've literally tried EVERYTHING with her, we have had a private trainer come in, we've had a behavorist, we've had her on calming pills for the past two years, everything imaginable we've tried...and now we're in this situation, that if she bared teeth and growled at my DD what will she do later...She's a big dog and even a nip from her has broken skin...I love this dog like she is my child, but at the same time, I'm terrified of what she's capable of, and to separate her all day will make her resent DD more..I have to say 99% of the time she's a mush, but she's unpredictable which scares me! She can snap for no reason...
It's the fraction of a second that was mentioned that terrifies me..DD is never alone with the dog right now, but she's not walking yet and honestly I am not sure how I'm going to handle that....
Well i do think you tried it all. No one can fault you for that. I was wondering how everything was going and what your plans were at rehoming her?
And not to point a finger at the big dogs, but I personally feel there is a difference b/w a large dog who bites vs a small one. My dogs can be controlled very easily due to their size, whereas if they were stronger or larger, they would be capable of being uncontrollable. Not to pick on the poor big doggies, ifeel terrible for them. But that's how I feel and that's partly why we chose a smaller breed.
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Re: wwyd??
I guess I just want to say to those reading who may be thinking of getting a pet....
You have to think DOWN THE LINE, not just here and now and I want what I want now. Dogs and cats are a 15 year or so commitment. So answer the questions...
Do you have children? Are you planning to have children? How large will the dog get? What will we do if the cat or dog doesn't get along with our future children? If your answers to these questions are simple clear cut "get rid of it" then maybe pet ownership isn't a good idea. Anytime you adopt a cat or dog, you are taking a chance at getting one that will not be the perfect pet we all wish they would be.
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Re: wwyd??
Posted by MRnMRSNurse
Im glad you posted this. I have what I believed was a loving poodle. We only got a poodle because we read they were wonderful with children (whom we are planning in the future) I have recently taken him with me to babysit for two children ages 7&8. He snaps at the children!! They aren't playing rough, they are old enough to know how to play with a dog nice. He doesn't hurt them but I was embarrassed & angry about his bad behavior. He is only 6 months so I know some of this is typical puppy behavior.
Im now horrified that he will bite his future little human siblings. I am taking him to obedience school but it's all very disheartening!!
If he ever hurt my real child I'm not sure what I would do. I love my puppy so much!!
as a standard poodle mix owner, I would just like to point out that standard poodles are not known for biting... miniatures and toys have been known to.
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MrsRivera
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Re: wwyd??
Posted by Goobster
Beth, you must be so relieved that you didn't get that pug after all with another baby on the way now! Dogs are definitely ALOT of work with small children, way more than cats..and small dogs tend to be the nippiest or biggest biters it seems. Maybe it's a fear or dominance but it's quite common.
I am, actually. DH desperately wants to get a dog. Myself, I've never had one and I'd be ok keeping it that way. But as of right now, he's gonna have to wait about 5 years before I'll even consider it!!
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Re: wwyd??
I actually think this was the BEST idea.. your dog wil be very well looked after, he will get excercise. fed.. What is so ridiculous about that??? And you can have children over without worrying .. What better solution is there?? And I do not feel putting a dog in a seperate room while children are over would be CRUEL either? People crate there dogs all the time when they need to. I do think allowing your pet out and about knowing he at any time will nip or bite is very irresponsible and also setting yourself up for big trouble.. i also agree about agressive larger dogs.. Thats a very scary thought.. all in all i think we all have to peck with our own beak make decisions that are best for the dog and our children. For ME i will continue to take this very seriously and keep up my training and attention toward this situation until my dd is old enough for me to stop worrying..
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Re: wwyd??
Posted by lbride
Posted by MRnMRSNurse
Im glad you posted this. I have what I believed was a loving poodle. We only got a poodle because we read they were wonderful with children (whom we are planning in the future) I have recently taken him with me to babysit for two children ages 7&8. He snaps at the children!! They aren't playing rough, they are old enough to know how to play with a dog nice. He doesn't hurt them but I was embarrassed & angry about his bad behavior. He is only 6 months so I know some of this is typical puppy behavior.
Im now horrified that he will bite his future little human siblings. I am taking him to obedience school but it's all very disheartening!!
If he ever hurt my real child I'm not sure what I would do. I love my puppy so much!!
as a standard poodle mix owner, I would just like to point out that standard poodles are not known for biting... miniatures and toys have been known to.
i grew with an abused rescue poodle.. He was he meanest nastiest dog ever.. But for soem crazy reason we All loved him and took care of him till he died at 17.. He bit almost every member of my family except my mother .. I had 2 other poodles as well.. and they were the most lovable wonderful dogs ever...
So go figure.
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Re: wwyd??
Posted by Goobster
I guess I just want to say to those reading who may be thinking of getting a pet....
You have to think DOWN THE LINE, not just here and now and I want what I want now. Dogs and cats are a 15 year or so commitment. So answer the questions...
Do you have children? Are you planning to have children? How large will the dog get? What will we do if the cat or dog doesn't get along with our future children? If your answers to these questions are simple clear cut "get rid of it" then maybe pet ownership isn't a good idea. Anytime you adopt a cat or dog, you are taking a chance at getting one that will not be the perfect pet we all wish they would be.
ITA. This is why when I planned to get a puppy I did A LOT of research to find the BEST breeder so I could be familiar with family history of the dog. This will usually make the dog's temperament more predictable but it has to go along with lots of training and socialization. (And of course there are exceptions to every rule.) My pup has been extrememly socialized with people, children, places, and other dogs. If you do get a dog and are planning to have children some time, the earlier in the dog's life you introduce them to children and socialize them the better
ETA: I was so overly cautious because my previous dog I believe had a neurological imbalance and had many behavioral issues. I loved him so so much but he was very difficult to live with at times. I had to separate him when company came over to be a responsible owner and not risk the safety of my guests. If he was in any other home I believe he would have been put down years before his 14 years with us. No regrets with him but he made me think long and hard and do a lot of research before bringing another dog into my home. Especially since I do plan on having a child in a couple of years.
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Re: wwyd??
Posted by RadioLau
ITA. This is why when I planned to get a puppy I did A LOT of research to find the BEST breeder so I could be familiar with family history of the dog. This will usually make the dog's temperament more predictable but it has to go along with lots of training and socialization. (And of course there are exceptions to every rule.) My pup has been extrememly socialized with people, children, places, and other dogs. If you do get a dog and are planning to have children some time, the earlier in the dog's life you introduce them to children and socialize them the better
ETA: I was so overly cautious because my previous dog I believe had a neurological imbalance and had many behavioral issues. I loved him so so much but he was very difficult to live with at times. I had to separate him when company came over to be a responsible owner and not risk the safety of my guests. If he was in any other home I believe he would have been put down years before his 14 years with us. No regrets with him but he made me think long and hard and do a lot of research before bringing another dog into my home. Especially since I do plan on having a child in a couple of years.
About the breeder...we used a well known breeder and our male dog is still not great with children. It's just part of the breed's history. Yet my female dog is from the same breeder and is much better with kids.
Also..we say the same thing. When we picked my male dog out of him and his brother when we went to visit them, we chose him. He was the spunky one running to grab the electrical wires...his brother was meek and timid (like my girl was when we met her). Sure enough, we always say we KNOW if anyone else had our dog, he would be in a shelter right now b/c he is a handful and very difficult in alot of ways (needy, barky, nippy, etc). So we always say, when we get frustrated with him, that thank GOD we CHOSE him b/c he would be locked in a cage somewhere probably. He probably would have gone from home to home b/c he is a difficult dog.
 So I do understand and I agree. But even with a breeder, you just never know what kind of dog you will get.
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Re: wwyd??
Posted by Goobster
I guess I just want to say to those reading who may be thinking of getting a pet....
You have to think DOWN THE LINE, not just here and now and I want what I want now. Dogs and cats are a 15 year or so commitment. So answer the questions...
Do you have children? Are you planning to have children? How large will the dog get? What will we do if the cat or dog doesn't get along with our future children? If your answers to these questions are simple clear cut "get rid of it" then maybe pet ownership isn't a good idea. Anytime you adopt a cat or dog, you are taking a chance at getting one that will not be the perfect pet we all wish they would be.
Once again, this brings us to the point that you just don't know what you'd really do when actually faced with a situation. I got my cats with the intention of having them forever. Before having my children I was a guns-ablazing "I will NEVER get rid of my furbabies no matter what" type of pet owner. Then my 9 month old who always seemed to have a cold and perpetual red nose, dark circles under her eyes, and congestion was diagnosed with a cat allergy. Yeah- maybe to some people giving heavy allergy meds to a baby long term is a great way to keep a pet, but not to me. The cats were rehomed.
When we adopted Luna we were told she was: a calm dog, a lab/beagle mix, a stray. Turns out she was: abused and confiscated from her owner, a Dalmation mix (historically NOT good with kids), and was incredibly timid/shy rather than "calm". The only thing they got right about her was her size. So, for those who try to do the right thing by adopting while planning for the future, being able to answer the questions you posed are often impossible.
Once again, we all do what's right for our families. I gotta say, if knowing I'd give up my dog if she bit (we're not talking a provoked snap) makes me a bad pet owner to you (colective "you")then so be it. I truly don't care. But I KNOW that it makes me a good parent because my children are my first priority.
I LOVE my dog (and my cats who are living the high life with my parents now), but they are NOT my children. Not all good pet owners are willing to risk the safety and welfare of their children over the comfort of their pets. IMO, a good pet owner doesn't risk the safety of others for the welfare of their pet. A good pet owner has a plan for what will happen in the event that pet doesn't turn out the way they had hoped, whether training is needed or if the pet needs to be rehomed. NO ONE can predict the future.
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Re: wwyd??
Posted by Porrruss
Once again, we all do what's right for our families. I gotta say, if knowing I'd give up my dog if she bit (we're not talking a provoked snap) makes me a bad pet owner to you (colective "you")then so be it. I truly don't care. But I KNOW that it makes me a good parent because my children are my first priority.
I LOVE my dog (and my cats who are living the high life with my parents now), but they are NOT my children. Not all good pet owners are willing to risk the safety and welfare of their children over the comfort of their pets. IMO, a good pet owner doesn't risk the safety of others for the welfare of their pet. A good pet owner has a plan for what will happen in the event that pet doesn't turn out the way they had hoped, whether training is needed or if the pet needs to be rehomed. NO ONE can predict the future.
Well I agree, it's often hard to predict down the line. That's true. But some people blantantly put no thought into the process of adopting a pet AT ALL. So those are the ones I am addressing mostly.
In addition, I am not saying that rehoming a pet to a GOOD home makes ANYONE a bad pet owner. I think giving up on your pet without even trying ways to handle the situation is another story. And you always bring up your DDs allergies, when that is very different senario than a dog that has some behavioral issues that can possible be worked out.
And also, just b/c I intend to do everything I can to help my dog adjust to my child, does not mean I do not put my child first either.  My child is of course the priority but doing my best to work with the pet that I have is also a priority to me too. It seems like you are making the implication that anyone who tries ways to help a difficult dog in their home out is somehow not putting their child first or being neglectful of their child. Honestly with that thought, don't have ANY animal in your home ever, you shouldn't have a dog if you truly believe that b/c ANY dog can SNAP at any time. So why risk it at all? You probably should not own a dog if that is your thought process b/c dogs and cats are animals and are unpredictable.
See my point? My dog can bite my child anyday and I am always on my toes. And so can yours. And all it takes is that one time for your child to get seriously injured. So you watch your dog and your child and I watch mine. Same thing. What makes me being mindful of my dog and trying to do my best to prevent anything bad happening neglectful when you are doing the same thing in your home with your dog? You might say b/c I KNOW my dog isn't great with kids. And I will say you never know what ANY dog is going to do so if we all agree you can't trust ANY animal, then if that is your mindset, how can you have any animal in your home and feel comfortable when they are capable of snapping at any given time?
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Re: wwyd??
MY OPINION:
when your animal HURTS your child (not frighten, physically HARMS your child unprovoked,) it is horrifying..
So unless you have had it happen to you... Not when you were a kid. If you experience seeing your animal hurt your child then you really cannot predict what you would do... Because I know my sister, she is a DIE HARD animal lover and it pained her so much to give the cats away and I KNOW it would pain her to have to give Luna up (if that happen)
but... IMO any pet owner who keeps their animal after it repeatedly HURT their child, then it is pure negligence on their part. Of course this is after the parent exhausted all of their resources (trainers, etc.) And I'm not talking about nipping. I'm talking about BITING and SCRATCHING.
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Re: wwyd??
Posted by Goobster
And you always bring up your DDs allergies, when that is very different senario than a dog that has some behavioral issues that can possible be worked out..
But in essence, shouldn't a prospective pet owner think of possible allergies? I've seen many people told that they should seek allergy meds in order to keep a pet. I've been told MYSELF by certain people. Additionally, *I* don't believe that behavioral issues such as biting can be worked out when it comes to children around dogs. Neither did our trainers.
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And also, just b/c I intend to do everything I can to help my dog adjust to my child, does not mean I do not put my child first either. My child is of course the priority but doing my best to work with the pet that I have is also a priority to me too. It seems like you are making the implication that anyone who tries ways to help a difficult dog in their home out is somehow not putting their child first or being neglectful of their child. Honestly with that thought, don't have ANY animal in your home ever, you shouldn't have a dog if you truly believe that b/c ANY dog can SNAP at any time. So why risk it at all? You probably should not own a dog if that is your thought process b/c dogs and cats are animals and are unpredictable.
See my point? My dog can bite my child anyday. And so can yours. And all it takes is that one time for your child to get seriously injured. So you watch your dog and your child and I watch mine. Same thing.
Biting and corrective snapping are 2 different behaviors. One is aggression, the other is absolutely correctable behavior. Please don't try to educate me about doing everything for my dog- who could have been a serious "problem dog". We DID do everything, and it worked. BUT- if it didn't and she bites, she's gone. Again, doesn't make me a *bad* pet owner in MY eyes, it makes me a *good* parent. I agree you do whats best for you, and I'll do what's best for me.
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Re: wwyd??
Posted by HeathKernandez
but... IMO any pet owner who keeps their animal after it repeatedly HURT their child, then it is pure negligence on their part. Of course this is after the parent exhausted all of their resources (trainers, etc.) And I'm not talking about nipping. I'm talking about BITING and SCRATCHING.
Well that's another story. I also agree that would be very neglectful.
But that isn't any story we are talking about here. We are talking about dogs who aren't being given a chance to be rehabilitated or given another chance after a first offense or given tools to improve their behavior. That's what I am talking about anyway.
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Re: wwyd??
Posted by Goobster
Posted by HeathKernandez
but... IMO any pet owner who keeps their animal after it repeatedly HURT their child, then it is pure negligence on their part. Of course this is after the parent exhausted all of their resources (trainers, etc.) And I'm not talking about nipping. I'm talking about BITING and SCRATCHING.
Well that's another story. I also agree that would be very neglectful.
But that isn't any story we are talking about here. We are talking about dogs who aren't being given a chance to be rehabilitated or given another chance after a first offense or given tools to improve their behavior. That's what I am talking about anyway.
I thought the OP asked about a dog biting and WWYD?
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Re: wwyd??
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Posted by Goobster
Posted by HeathKernandez
but... IMO any pet owner who keeps their animal after it repeatedly HURT their child, then it is pure negligence on their part. Of course this is after the parent exhausted all of their resources (trainers, etc.) And I'm not talking about nipping. I'm talking about BITING and SCRATCHING.
Well that's another story. I also agree that would be very neglectful.
But that isn't any story we are talking about here. We are talking about dogs who aren't being given a chance to be rehabilitated or given another chance after a first offense or given tools to improve their behavior. That's what I am talking about anyway.
I thought the OP asked about a dog biting and WWYD?
I am not referring to what the OP asked. I am referring to what the conversation has evolved into on the last few pages or so b/w those of us who have already posted WWWD.
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Re: wwyd??
Posted by Goobster
I am not referring to what the OP asked. I am referring to what the conversation has evolved into on the last few pages or so b/w those of us who have already posted WWWD.
hey, I just go with the flow and what the conversation has turned into...
To be TOTALLY honest, I would probably give the dog up to begin with... This is a reason I don't HAVE a dog... I'm not willing to take on that responsibility.
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| Posted 2/19/10 9:48 AM |
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alexlynn7
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Message edited 7/16/2010 12:02:10 PM.
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| Posted 2/19/10 9:36 PM |
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Diana712
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Re: wwyd??
Posted by alexlynn7
this is the typical situation in my house with my kids and owen:
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BUT just yesterday i turned by back just long enough for my 7 month old daughter to grab and squeeze owen's tail.
i am frequently squeezed by DD... it HURTS.
i turned around because he kind of growled/barked at her. i went to separate her hand from his tail, and he put his mouth around my arm... not a bite or even a snap - but a warning. so he didn't do anything to DD, but he definitely had some aggression/frustration that he expressed to me.
i don't blame the dog. he will typically take what my kids give him and come back for more, but enough was enough. it was my fault for not keeping a closer eye on the kids. even a dog who is "good with kids" will defend himself if hurt - it's his instinct.
if my dog were to bite one of my children unprovoked, then we would have a serious problem. i would do what i could to rehabilitate the dog before considering rehoming him.
but i really think that totally unprovoked biting is pretty rare...
This is my exact feelings on this subject.. I can almost bet my life on this .. My doig will probably only bite if she has been provoked by my DD.. She has never ever shown aggression ever to anyone including children.. But what choice would she have if my dd is ripping her ears off or pulling her tail off or ripping at her fur? This would be my fault.. So I think I should be rehomed 
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| Posted 2/19/10 9:41 PM |
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alexlynn7
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| Posted 2/19/10 9:49 PM |
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Re: wwyd??
We got a chocolate lab after all our kids were born. In fact she is 11 days younger than my youngest so Noelle (the pup) is actually the baby 
This pup has adapted to the kids phenomenally. If the dog ever bit them down the line I'd be crushed b/c they love this dog so much and visa versa.
The day we brought her home
I couldn't resist.
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| Posted 2/19/10 10:53 PM |
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pickles16
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Re: wwyd??
Posted by alexlynn7
but i really think that totally unprovoked biting is pretty rare...
I agree with this, but you also have to take into consideration the dogs nature in general, our dog has always had anxiety issues and nervous dog, so what may provoke her, may be nothing in most ppls eyes and not provoke a calmer dog...
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| Posted 2/20/10 10:05 AM |
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Goobster
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Re: wwyd??
Posted by pickles16
Posted by alexlynn7
but i really think that totally unprovoked biting is pretty rare...
I agree with this, but you also have to take into consideration the dogs nature in general, our dog has always had anxiety issues and nervous dog, so what may provoke her, may be nothing in most ppls eyes and not provoke a calmer dog...
I agree, this is true with my dog too. Very true.
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| Posted 2/20/10 10:33 AM |
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