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Waste06
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Re: Spinoff to Opinions

I think the poor (and I use that term uncomfortably, since I don't want to stereotype or offend) will eventually not be able to afford the home prices on long island. And they wont be able to afford to move off of long island either. But they will have to stay somewhere. I think more will start to rent homes and apartments, rather than buy. We will also start to see multiple families living in one house.

While the educated middle class might be moving off long island, I think that the poorer classes can't afford to go anywhere.

Unfortunately, I don't think it's possible for the bad neighborhoods to become good neighborhoods and do away with the bad ones all together.

Posted 8/4/06 3:13 PM
 
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MegZee
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Re: Spinoff to Opinions

I also think a nice area can turn ugly faster than a bad area can turn nice...

my grandmothers grew up in the South Bronx, the other Jamaica. They wouldnt live there now!

I dont even think I have an example of bad areas turning nice!

Posted 8/4/06 3:13 PM
 

Redhead
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Re: Spinoff to Opinions

Posted by Meaghan729

I also think a nice area can turn ugly faster than a bad area can turn nice...

I dont even think I have an example of bad areas turning nice!



sorry...again i am going to have to disagree...

i cannot think of ONE GOOD area of LI that turned bad..

In fact i am going to have to say it has YET to happen...NOR would it ever....

Posted 8/4/06 3:16 PM
 

SweetestOfPeas
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Re: Spinoff to Opinions

Posted by Redhead

Posted by Meaghan729

I also think a nice area can turn ugly faster than a bad area can turn nice...

I dont even think I have an example of bad areas turning nice!



sorry...again i am going to have to disagree...

i cannot think of ONE GOOD area of LI that turned bad..

In fact i am going to have to say it has YET to happen...NOR would it ever....


I remember yrs ago there was a lot of talk about 1 town in Suffolk that they were cleaning up (drug dealers, crack houses etc)

I don't know if those elements are all gone now, but I still wouldn't want to live in this area (I will FM it to you)

Posted 8/4/06 3:23 PM
 

Beth
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Re: Spinoff to Opinions

Posted by Redhead

Posted by Meaghan729

I also think a nice area can turn ugly faster than a bad area can turn nice...

I dont even think I have an example of bad areas turning nice!



sorry...again i am going to have to disagree...

i cannot think of ONE GOOD area of LI that turned bad..

In fact i am going to have to say it has YET to happen...NOR would it ever....




not recently- but Baldwin Harbor- according to a very wealthy woman who used to live in my building - b/c she has to move from Baldwin- apparently there was a law suit over the schools or real estate agents not showing houses- and the neighborhood changed

now last night I had to drop something off in freeport- and I turned from sunrise by the BMW dealership- and went south crossing merrick rd- I could not believe the houses- or should I say MANSIONS- all old school beutiful homes- when I went to leave I turned on merrick road instead- holy cow- it was like being in a bad part of the bronx

I hope no one takes offense to this- this is merely what I observed

Posted 8/4/06 3:26 PM
 

kerrycec03
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Re: Spinoff to Opinions

certain areas have been cleaned up a bit, for instead ridge & wyndanch. I personally wouldn't want wyndanch, but the schools have gotten stronger & the neighbor patrols are more frequent. A friend of mine works there and notices the differences in just 2 years

Posted 8/4/06 3:26 PM
 

Palebride
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Re: Spinoff to Opinions

Posted by Redhead

Posted by SweetestOfPeas

honestly, if that does happen, it's a looooooooooong way off. IMO it takes a lot longer to rebuild a bad area than for a good one to turn bad.

JMO


I am going to have to say i disagree...

There are plenty of areas that are in fact quickly turning over...

Areas that were considered "undesireable" that now all you see is young couples moving in and renovating their houses...by which is definitely having an impact on the area



I really hope you're right!

If only I could see into the future to see it actually happening though!

(it woudl certainly make house hunting a whole lot easier!)

Posted 8/4/06 3:39 PM
 

Redhead
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Re: Spinoff to Opinions

Posted by Beth1210
not recently- but Baldwin Harbor- according to a very wealthy woman who used to live in my building - b/c she has to move from Baldwin- apparently there was a law suit over the schools or real estate agents not showing houses- and the neighborhood changed

now last night I had to drop something off in freeport- and I turned from sunrise by the BMW dealership- and went south crossing merrick rd- I could not believe the houses- or should I say MANSIONS- all old school beutiful homes- when I went to leave I turned on merrick road instead- holy cow- it was like being in a bad part of the bronx

I hope no one takes offense to this- this is merely what I observed



not sure i understand what you mean..

but as far as i know or have been told..
Baldwin is a good area period

Posted 8/4/06 3:44 PM
 

MegZee
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Re: Spinoff to Opinions

Posted by Redhead

Posted by Meaghan729

I also think a nice area can turn ugly faster than a bad area can turn nice...

I dont even think I have an example of bad areas turning nice!



sorry...again i am going to have to disagree...

i cannot think of ONE GOOD area of LI that turned bad..

In fact i am going to have to say it has YET to happen...NOR would it ever....



I said it could...i didnt say it has...but i gave exampes of Jamiaica and the South Bronx.....

Posted 8/4/06 3:48 PM
 

Redhead
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Re: Spinoff to Opinions

Posted by Meaghan729

Posted by Redhead

Posted by Meaghan729

I also think a nice area can turn ugly faster than a bad area can turn nice...

I dont even think I have an example of bad areas turning nice!



sorry...again i am going to have to disagree...

i cannot think of ONE GOOD area of LI that turned bad..

In fact i am going to have to say it has YET to happen...NOR would it ever....



I said it could...i didnt say it has...but i gave exampes of Jamiaica and the South Bronx.....




well sure...i guess anything could happen

i am just not seeing any areas that were once known as "good" turn bad..

if anything again...i see the less desireable areas turning around for the better...

that is pretty much undeniable

Posted 8/4/06 3:51 PM
 

Beth
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Re: Spinoff to Opinions

Posted by Redhead

Posted by Beth1210
not recently- but Baldwin Harbor- according to a very wealthy woman who used to live in my building - b/c she has to move from Baldwin- apparently there was a law suit over the schools or real estate agents not showing houses- and the neighborhood changed

now last night I had to drop something off in freeport- and I turned from sunrise by the BMW dealership- and went south crossing merrick rd- I could not believe the houses- or should I say MANSIONS- all old school beutiful homes- when I went to leave I turned on merrick road instead- holy cow- it was like being in a bad part of the bronx

I hope no one takes offense to this- this is merely what I observed



not sure i understand what you mean..

but as far as i know or have been told..
Baldwin is a good area period



not from what I have been told- the woman who lived in my building said it changed so much she had to leave-

Posted 8/4/06 3:52 PM
 

MsG
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G

Re: Spinoff to Opinions

Former low crime turned higher crime: Brentwood, Elmont, Huntington Station

Posted 8/4/06 3:58 PM
 

Redhead
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Re: Spinoff to Opinions

hmmmmmmmm well....i guess anything is possible..

but i think that we will see more of a flipping in the good direction on LI than the opposite effect

Posted 8/4/06 3:58 PM
 

Redhead
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Re: Spinoff to Opinions

Posted by MsG

Former low crime turned higher crime: Brentwood, Elmont, Huntington Station


i have never heard of brentwood being a "good" area

AND just recently i read an article saying that Elmont IN FACT was nassaus biggest HOTSPOT for real estate...

so i think that elmont will be flipping in the good direction eventually

Posted 8/4/06 4:00 PM
 

Beth
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Re: Spinoff to Opinions

Posted by Redhead

hmmmmmmmm well....i guess anything is possible..

but i think that we will see more of a flipping in the good direction on LI than the opposite effect



I agree- I was thinking that on my way home last night

Posted 8/4/06 4:00 PM
 

MrsA
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Re: Spinoff to Opinions

Posted by Beth1210

Posted by Redhead

Posted by Beth1210
not recently- but Baldwin Harbor- according to a very wealthy woman who used to live in my building - b/c she has to move from Baldwin- apparently there was a law suit over the schools or real estate agents not showing houses- and the neighborhood changed

now last night I had to drop something off in freeport- and I turned from sunrise by the BMW dealership- and went south crossing merrick rd- I could not believe the houses- or should I say MANSIONS- all old school beutiful homes- when I went to leave I turned on merrick road instead- holy cow- it was like being in a bad part of the bronx

I hope no one takes offense to this- this is merely what I observed



not sure i understand what you mean..

but as far as i know or have been told..
Baldwin is a good area period



not from what I have been told- the woman who lived in my building said it changed so much she had to leave-



I had also heard not-so-good things about the Baldwin area..but I heard some parts are better than others..

Posted 8/4/06 4:01 PM
 

Palebride
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Re: Spinoff to Opinions

Posted by Redhead

Posted by MsG

Former low crime turned higher crime: Brentwood, Elmont, Huntington Station


i have never heard of brentwood being a "good" area

AND just recently i read an article saying that Elmont IN FACT was nassaus biggest HOTSPOT for real estate...

so i think that elmont will be flipping in the good direction eventually



Brentwood used to be nicer - my mother in law great up there and it was nice....

Elmont also used to be nicer - my dad had a deli there growing up. But then he sold it in the 80's when the area got too rough. That's interesting that it's becoming more popular....maybe he can re-open the deli!Chat Icon

Posted 8/4/06 4:03 PM
 

~Colleen~
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Re: Spinoff to Opinions

Posted by MsG

Former low crime turned higher crime: Brentwood, Elmont, Huntington Station


I might agree with Brentwood...but I've read the same as Jenn wrt to Elmont.

But where are you getting your info on HS? According to MLSLI it has a median income of $85k with houses at $451k...violent crime risk of 2.0, property crome risk of 3.0

The county median income is $68k with national at $42k...county violent crime risk at 2.0 with national at 3.0 and county property crime risk at 3.7 with national at 3.2

Property crime risk in Huntington is 4.0 - higher than HS...

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Message edited 8/4/2006 4:06:33 PM.

Posted 8/4/06 4:04 PM
 

MsG
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G

Re: Spinoff to Opinions

Yeah I didn't know that about Elmont, that's interesting. My DH's family lived there until his grandma was mugged in a shopping center, but that was in ihe 80's.

Posted 8/4/06 4:06 PM
 

Redhead
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Re: Spinoff to Opinions

Posted by Palebride

Posted by Redhead

Posted by MsG

Former low crime turned higher crime: Brentwood, Elmont, Huntington Station


i have never heard of brentwood being a "good" area

AND just recently i read an article saying that Elmont IN FACT was nassaus biggest HOTSPOT for real estate...

so i think that elmont will be flipping in the good direction eventually



Brentwood used to be nicer - my mother in law great up there and it was nice....

Elmont also used to be nicer - my dad had a deli there growing up. But then he sold it in the 80's when the area got too rough. That's interesting that it's becoming more popular....maybe he can re-open the deli!Chat Icon


well from whati have read about Elmont recently...i would tell him to re-open..

as for Brentwood...well i have always known it to be not so good..

and i still think that the area will rise in appeal eventually

Posted 8/4/06 4:07 PM
 

MsG
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G

Re: Spinoff to Opinions

Posted by Colleen9304

Posted by MsG

Former low crime turned higher crime: Brentwood, Elmont, Huntington Station


I might agree with Brentwood...but I've read the same as Jenn wrt to Elmont.

But where are you getting your info on HS? According to MLSLI it has a median income of $85k with houses at $451k...violent crime risk of 2.0, property crome risk of 3.0

The county median income is $68k with national at $42k...county violent crime risk at 2.0 with national at 3.0 and county property crime risk at 3.7 with national at 3.2

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HS has one of the worst gang violence problems on LI

gangs in HS

Posted 8/4/06 4:07 PM
 

Palebride
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Re: Spinoff to Opinions

Posted by MsG

Yeah I didn't know that about Elmont, that's interesting. My DH's family lived there until his grandma was mugged in a shopping center, but that was in ihe 80's.



I wonder if they used to go to my dad's deli!
It was the Dutch Broadway Deli.Chat Icon

Posted 8/4/06 4:10 PM
 

~Colleen~
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Re: Spinoff to Opinions

Posted by MsG
HS has one of the worst gang violence problems on LI

gangs in HS


That info is from 2004 - I haven't heard stories like that (honestly, even back then) - recently.

Posted 8/4/06 4:11 PM
 

MsG
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G

Re: Spinoff to Opinions

I'm going to ask his grandma!

Posted 8/4/06 4:12 PM
 

MsG
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G

Re: Spinoff to Opinions

Posted by Colleen9304

Posted by MsG
HS has one of the worst gang violence problems on LI

gangs in HS


That info is from 2004 - I haven't heard stories like that (honestly, even back then) - recently.




Wow! I thought it had quite the reputation as a high-crime area. It's a shame if it does and it's undeserved.

Posted 8/4/06 4:15 PM
 
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