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DeniseMarie
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Vaccinations & Autism
now - I am def no expert on this subject but you hear a lot of talk about early vaccinations linked to autism. And although there is no scientific proof that this is the case - it still makes me nervous.
I was talking to one of my friends last night who is in the medical field. During her pediatric rotation - her teacher had mentioned that she has triplets. When they were 10 months old, her daughter was on track to be a perfectly healthy baby. Was almost talking and responding normally, etc. After she got the MMR vaccination, she was a completely changed child and was later diagnosed with autism. This woman swears it was from the vaccine. My friend mentioned , in her opinion, she would not vaccinate her child until after 2 when the brain is mostly, fully developed.
The stats are now 1 in every 150 children! Again - not an expert just wanted to get your opinions. My friend had mentioned that the vaccines they get as a baby, although they must get them at sometime, you will probably be perfectly fine holding off until they are at least 2. Some people do not get them vaccinated until right before they start school.
thoughts?
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Re: Vaccinations & Autism
My husband and I have decided not to have the MMR shot until right before school. I don't see the harm in waiting. If there is a microscopic chance that vacinne harms children I am not taking it. period.
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| Posted 6/29/08 11:35 AM |
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boyorgirl
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Re: Vaccinations & Autism
I plan on waiting till my child is 2-3 to give the MMR shot. I'm so worried about Autism, that I will try anything.
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| Posted 6/29/08 11:42 AM |
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Hofstra26
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Re: Vaccinations & Autism
We are nervous too. Everyone I talk to about it recommends breaking the MMR shot up into 3 different shots. I am going to ask the pediatricians we interview about it because I too want to do what's best........this autism thing is SO scary these days!!
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| Posted 6/29/08 11:45 AM |
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mamallama
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Re: Vaccinations & Autism
I will not be giving my children the MMR until I HAVE to....I am going to hold out as long as I can
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| Posted 6/29/08 11:48 AM |
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MrsRivera
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Re: Vaccinations & Autism
This really scares me, too.
I had a student whose mom said the same thing: She was perfectly normal and healthy until she had that shot. Then she totally changed.
It really breaks my heart. There's so much to be nervous about. 
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| Posted 6/29/08 11:54 AM |
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Heather617
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Re: Vaccinations & Autism
I personally am not convinced about the link but that is my own opinion. Just remember if you are going to put you DC in daycare, they will require the vaccinations. I definitely understand the concern but for me personally unless they can show me some definite proof, my DS will get vaccinated as per the schedule his PED recommends and he has already had 2 rounds of vaccinations. MMR is usually done at a year at my ped office
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| Posted 6/29/08 12:11 PM |
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beachgirl13
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Re: Vaccinations & Autism
I don't believe they are related. I heard that developmentally certain signs of autism come out at around the same time of certain shots. Something about brain development at a certain age. Parents looking for a reason link it with the shot even though they are not related. I'm not explaining it right, but it made sense when it was explained to me.
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mikeswife06
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Re: Vaccinations & Autism
I am delaying the MMR to age 4. Or as late as I can if she ends up going to day care sooner and needs it. My mom will def be watching her though the first year so there is no need for her to get all 27 recommended shots that first year.
Also, if you wait until age 4 they only need to get it one time not 2.
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| Posted 6/29/08 1:01 PM |
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mikeswife06
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Re: Vaccinations & Autism
Posted by Hofstra26
We are nervous too. Everyone I talk to about it recommends breaking the MMR shot up into 3 different shots. I am going to ask the pediatricians we interview about it because I too want to do what's best........this autism thing is SO scary these days!!
You can break it up but it is still not the combo but the measles virus that is thought to cause problems so breaking it up may not eliminate the possiblity of negative effects.
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| Posted 6/29/08 1:02 PM |
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Sweets13
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Re: Vaccinations & Autism
I delayed his MMR shot until he was 18 months. He was fine and still is! I also have a friend who was delaying the MMR shot until DD was going into school and at 2 years old, she was diagnosed with Autism....
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browneyedgirl
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Re: Vaccinations & Autism
what scares me is DS getting a horrible disease because i didn't vaccinate him and he became exposed to it. i can't keep him in a bubble.
i am not convinced at all that MMR causes autism. DS will be getting his shots on schedule as long as he's not sick that day. then i will push it back until the next visit.
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| Posted 6/29/08 1:45 PM |
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Dulcinea
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Re: Vaccinations & Autism
The gov't has already conceded that there may be a link between autism and
preservatives used in vaccinations.
Gov't conceded link between vaccination and autism
Hannah Poling's case
If you child has a mitochondria disorder and is susceptible to autism spectrum disorder, adhd or dyxlesia due to family history there's a reason to be cautious about following the vaccination schedule exactly...
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| Posted 6/29/08 2:10 PM |
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MommyofG
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Re: Vaccinations & Autism
I am not so sure now, I was convinced with all of the literature stating that it didnt but working more and more with children of autism and speaking to the parents- I keep hearing over and over that my child was perfectly healthy until.......... even parents who delayed the shot! so if I go by literature provided by the state and CDC there are just way too many parents stating otherwise.
so therefore I have decided to delay and ped is perfectly fine with it.
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headoverheels
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Re: Vaccinations & Autism
Posted by browneyedgirl
what scares me is DS getting a horrible disease because i didn't vaccinate him and he became exposed to it. i can't keep him in a bubble.
i am not convinced at all that MMR causes autism. DS will be getting his shots on schedule as long as he's not sick that day. then i will push it back until the next visit.
i agree. i believe that part of the reason so many parents believe that the MMR caused their child's autism is because the MMR shot is typically given when the child is a year old - around the same time that a child would show signs of having an autism spectrum disorder, since this is when *most* children start to vocalize and socialize more, and it becomes more apparent which children have autism symptoms.
until more research is done, my child will be getting all of their vaccines on schedule, after i discuss any pros and cons with the pediatrician.
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pumpkinpye517
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Re: Vaccinations & Autism
Im not sure what to do about these shots. I've worked with elementary aged autistic children for 3-4 years and Ive had parents tell me that they swear it was the shots, other parents said that they didnt believe a child could get autism from shots, so who knows. I read up on this article saying that it is linked to the father for the cause of autism and typically older fathers in their 40's. This I found interesting b/c I noticed my parents of these autistic children were much older (in their 40's). Im not sure what to believe and there really is no real answer/cause to autism. I feel that if it makes a parent feel more comfortable to wait for the vaccinations, then wait. Autism is just so sad and my heart goes out to these parents with autistic children.
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mcl916
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Re: Vaccinations & Autism
Posted by headoverheels
Posted by browneyedgirl
what scares me is DS getting a horrible disease because i didn't vaccinate him and he became exposed to it. i can't keep him in a bubble.
i am not convinced at all that MMR causes autism. DS will be getting his shots on schedule as long as he's not sick that day. then i will push it back until the next visit.
i agree. i believe that part of the reason so many parents believe that the MMR caused their child's autism is because the MMR shot is typically given when the child is a year old - around the same time that a child would show signs of having an autism spectrum disorder, since this is when *most* children start to vocalize and socialize more, and it becomes more apparent which children have autism symptoms.
until more research is done, my child will be getting all of their vaccines on schedule, after i discuss any pros and cons with the pediatrician.
I agree also. I'm not going to put my child at risk to contract a deadly disease beacuse there *might* be a link to a vaccine (even though many, many studies have failed to prove this link). My take on the whole thing (and again, JMO) is that a child is born with the disposition to autism (gentically linked). I believe that a vaccine could potentially speed up the signs of the disorder, but that the child would eventually have it anyway. I also strongly believe there is an environmental influence that is being overlooked in a major way- be it something in plastics, cleaning solutions, fast food... who knows. I will definately have a long discussion with my ped and decide what route is right for my child. I won't vaccinate if my child has been ill and I will try to spread out vaccines so he won't get multiple shots in one visit.
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Goldi0218
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Re: Vaccinations & Autism
I teach children with autism and have been for more than 12 years. I don't believe in the link between vaccinations and autism. Never have. Never will. I'd pull my kid from day care stark raving mad if I found out that unvaccinated child shared a room with my child.
1 in 150 is a high number and though that number may very well be true, the "spectrum" is in fact a VERY wide one. I FIRMLY believe that those numbers reflect a changing in diagnoses over the years. The kids that we went to school with who may have been socially awkward but brilliant in math, TODAY could have been diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome - a spectrum disorder. Years ago, people did NOT want their children classified (or medicated due to a stigma) but now, with the state/school districts being repsonsible for covering the costs of schooling and related services, people are a LOT more willing.
My belief is that there is a genetic predisposition/weakness to autism. That doesn't mean every kid in a family can and will get it. It means they may be more likely too. Over my career, I have seen enough families to see parent to parent and sibling to sibling correlations to form my opinion.
With all that being said, I plan on following the prescribed schedule for vaccinations. I will not allow my child to be susceptible to a disease if I can help it and I would be damn pizzed if someone else's kid got my kid sick.
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Beth
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Re: Vaccinations & Autism
Posted by Goldi0218
I teach children with autism and have been for more than 12 years. I don't believe in the link between vaccinations and autism. Never have. Never will.
My sister says the same thing - she teaches austic childern as well and most of them have not even had there shots (private school in maryland) so there goes that theory
she has her Masters from John Hopkins in early childernhood intervention - so I trust her opinion
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| Posted 6/29/08 5:37 PM |
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LadyH
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Re: Vaccinations & Autism
There was just an article in time about this that made me get back on board with the vaccination schedule.
You put your child at risk to acquire so many diseases if they aren't properly vaccinated. The illness they get could present with odd symptoms that novice er dr's aren't used to seeing - so you would need a 'seasoned' dr. to pick up on a disease that is uncommon. To me that's a greater threat to my child than a supposed link to autism.
I used to buy into the limitation of vaccination, but there are too many people with no medical expertise what so ever that are making critical medical decision for their kids (though with the best intentions)
I think I'll vaccinate... isn't it terrible we have to have this conversation?
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| Posted 6/29/08 8:44 PM |
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Candy Girl
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Re: Vaccinations & Autism
This topic really scares me. My nephew has autism and my sister struggles to keep herself together dealing with it.
I did a bunch of research last night on the topic and the truth is there is no definite answer. Like so many other issues with this baby, I am so undecided...
(PS- I wish Wannabemom was here to put in her scientific based opinions...)
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| Posted 6/29/08 8:58 PM |
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Goldi0218
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Re: Vaccinations & Autism
There is too much ambiguity and not enough concrete evidence to convince me. With each and every disease and disorder, we all want to be able to place blame on something or someone. I see it all the time with the population I serve. Bottom line for me is vaccinations do more good than harm and I dont want my kid getting sick.
What I would be curious to see is all of these kids who don't get vaccinated and if the numbers are still 1 in 150 - years from now. THAT would be science enough.
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snowflake08
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Posted by Goldi0218
There is too much ambiguity and not enough concrete evidence to convince me. With each and every disease and disorder, we all want to be able to place blame on something or someone. I see it all the time with the population I serve. Bottom line for me is vaccinations do more good than harm and I dont want my kid getting sick.
What I would be curious to see is all of these kids who don't get vaccinated and if the numbers are still 1 in 150 - years from now. THAT would be science enough.
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Posted by Beth1210
my sister says the same thing - she teaches austic childern as well and most of them have not even had there shots (private school in maryland) so there goes that theory
she has her Masters from John Hopkins in early childernhood intervention - so I trust her opinion
Why haven't they had their shots? Aren't they school age?
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Goobster
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This worries me greatly. I am not sure what I will do, I have to do much much more research. I can't think about it now, b/c I have too many other worries on my mind. But if I can wait, part of me wants to b/c I will be a SAHM and won't be using daycare. However, I would want to go to Mommy and Me, etc, and the child would be at risk in those places. This is such a tough choice.
Can anyone answer why autism is becoming more prevalent now? Didn't we all get vaccines and they knew so much less then?
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