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Porrruss
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Re: Vaccinations & Autism
Posted by Goobster
Can anyone answer why autism is becoming more prevalent now? Didn't we all get vaccines and they knew so much less then?
Go back and read Goldi's post a few posts up (on this thread). I largely agree with her theory as to why the "explosion".
I also have a number of children on my caseload with autism. Some had their vax on time, others had been delayed- yet all have autism.
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Posted 6/30/08 5:57 AM |
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snowflake08
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Re: Vaccinations & Autism
I agree, that it is not that it is more "prevalent" now, just more widely diagnosed
there were always "querky" kids that were socially awkward and remember, autism covers a WIDE spectrum of symptoms and levels
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Posted 6/30/08 6:44 AM |
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mia818
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Name: Mia
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Re: Vaccinations & Autism
I plan on giving all the shots, but on a delayed schedule with each shot seperate and preservative free.....no mercury. Do I think shots are linked to autism...yes. Do I think they are linked to delays...yes. I have way too many friends with children who all had issues with the vaccines, particularly the MMR. I went through a lot with my son, who for 2 years dh and i were scared had some form of autism. Thank god, after doctors and specialists he was not diagosed, just a very late developer with speech.
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Posted 6/30/08 6:46 AM |
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ready2go
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Re: Vaccinations & Autism
Posted by Goldi0218
I FIRMLY believe that those numbers reflect a changing in diagnoses over the years. The kids that we went to school with who may have been socially awkward but brilliant in math, TODAY could have been diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome - a spectrum disorder. Years ago, people did NOT want their children classified (or medicated due to a stigma) but now, with the state/school districts being repsonsible for covering the costs of schooling and related services, people are a LOT more willing.
I am a special education teacher, too, and I COMPLETELY agree with this...the numbers are rising because the number of children being diagnosed is rising.
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Posted 6/30/08 8:08 AM |
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pinkandblue
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Re: Vaccinations & Autism
It is a very personal decision, but for ME, I do not "buy into" the vaccine and autism link. Actually, my dd is getting her mmr shot today, at her 15 month appointment.
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Posted 6/30/08 9:04 AM |
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Beth
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Re: Vaccinations & Autism
Posted by Goobster
Posted by Beth1210
my sister says the same thing - she teaches austic childern as well and most of them have not even had there shots (private school in maryland) so there goes that theory
she has her Masters from John Hopkins in early childernhood intervention - so I trust her opinion
Why haven't they had their shots? Aren't they school age?
they are 3 and 4 years old- the laws are different in MD then NY- they don't need to get them to attend school
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Posted 6/30/08 9:45 AM |
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Xelindrya
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Re: Vaccinations & Autism
We are using a delayed schedule.
#1 We are that older couple someone mentioned… I’ll be 33 he’s 35. #2 I don’t believe anyone has the right answer on vaccinations #3 The only major difference from my/my husband’s childhood, to my child’s is our vaccinations. #4 We didn’t have to have so many of these shots and we didn’t die.
I don’t even get the flu shot, neither does my hubby. Jim can’t remember when he last had the flu and I haven’t had it since I was 5. I’ve had a partial flu but my body fought it off.
I think we over diagnose sometimes in fear and that causes more harm. Our bodies aren’t made to be a breeding zone for antibodies in these numbers. Evolution and probabilities will sooner or later win and something’s gotta give.
I used to eat dirt, grass and drink out of the hose in the front lawn. Our cleanliness wouldn’t even pass most tests these days and I ‘drove’ the car with my dad while sitting in his lap. I broke my arm and had it broken for almost 3 days without medical attention, I’ve busted my head a few times and let it bleed until I nearly passed out. I’ve had scraped knees, colds, ear infections (that never seemed to end), tubes in my ears, and other childhood illnesses. I had chicken pox at 8 and never had mumps or measles. We had booster shots and other vaccinations in elementary school. Heck I was military back then so it was “LINE UP AND ROLL UP YOUR SLEEVES” and they’d shoot us in our arms from both sides like an assembly line. But I remember I was old enough to be in school. I also remember I was ahead in vaccinations and that caused problems in school.
I’m not saying I agree or disagree. All I can say is, we can only try to protect our children the best we can. But if their time is up, it’s up and no shot and nothing I can do can stop that.
Look at SIDS. There’s a reason it stands for Sudden Infant Death. No one has figured it out yet. In the big picture, shots or no shots seems so small to “Will she be breathing tomorrow morning?”
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Posted 6/30/08 10:34 AM |
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junebride06
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Re: Vaccinations & Autism
I think it's very scary and I'm going to try to read up as much as possible on the different vaccines. I have friends in the medical field and they advised me never give the baby more than one vaccine at a time and I definitely agree. I don't like the idea of giving them shots as soon as they are born either. Hopefully I find a pediatrician that is understanding about this...
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Posted 6/30/08 10:52 AM |
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MommyofG
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Re: Vaccinations & Autism
I think its more parents are opting to delay than not vaccinate at all.
I have no problem with a child in any setting who hasnt been vaccinated "yet" per say. you can still get mmr or chicken pox and get vaccinated as per the flu. as long as your child is vaccinated to where you are comfortable I am certainly not worried about my DD "catching" something from a non vaccinated child. I know I have protected her to what I feel is comfortable. to date I have delayed varicella and mmr thats all. she will get them just when I feel her lil body is ready not by a schedule. she has had a TON of vaccines pumped into her already and at once several times.
what is the difference b/t a child who is 12 months old and 2 1/2 receiving the mmr or varicella vaccine? the chance she may get it she still could even if she was vaccinated against them- her chances are lower but its still a chance.
wanted to add all of my family and friends/neighbors who are in the medical/dental field AND patients of mine who are medical doctors have ALL delayed those 2 shots mmr and varicella- so do they know something we dont?
Message edited 6/30/2008 11:27:45 AM.
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Posted 6/30/08 11:16 AM |
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Re: Vaccinations & Autism
I don't know if they cause it or not but I wasn't about to take a chance. I spread them all out and delayed them all.
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Posted 6/30/08 11:24 AM |
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DeniseMarie
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Re: Vaccinations & Autism
Posted by 5ofClubs
I don't know if they cause it or not but I wasn't about to take a chance. I spread them all out and delayed them all.
right - that is what i think i am going to do. The MMR is the one I hear the most talk about regarding autism. Those are 3 diseases that have not been in this country in years. Not to say my child will not get the MMR, but why I am thinking it would be ok to delay it.
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Posted 6/30/08 12:43 PM |
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MrsS2005
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Re: Vaccinations & Autism
Posted by DeniseMarie
Posted by 5ofClubs
I don't know if they cause it or not but I wasn't about to take a chance. I spread them all out and delayed them all.
right - that is what i think i am going to do. The MMR is the one I hear the most talk about regarding autism. Those are 3 diseases that have not been in this country in years. Not to say my child will not get the MMR, but why I am thinking it would be ok to delay it.
Actually, there have been a lot of outbreaks recently, especially measles.
I'm more concerned about the risks of not vaccinating than the potential link to autism. I don't think vaccines cause autism. I'm sure there are parents who believe their child was normal before the vaccination and that the vaccine caused their child's autism. At the same time, there are parents who didn't vaccinate their next child and the child was still diagnosed with autism.
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Posted 6/30/08 1:15 PM |
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Porrruss
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Re: Vaccinations & Autism
There have been a number of measles outbreaks recently- the most recent was this past May.
measles
There was a large outbreak of mumps in 2006- the largest seen in 20 years actually.
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Posted 6/30/08 1:19 PM |
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vegalady
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Re: Vaccinations & Autism
Posted by browneyedgirl
what scares me is DS getting a horrible disease because i didn't vaccinate him and he became exposed to it. i can't keep him in a bubble.
i am not convinced at all that MMR causes autism. DS will be getting his shots on schedule as long as he's not sick that day. then i will push it back until the next visit.
I feel the same way. Especially b/c my child is in daycare. He just got his MMR shot today and I asked the ped about this today before he got the shot. He says there is no solid evidence that the shot is directly related to autism. He says there can be a lot of outside environmental influences that are associated with autism. But the shots have not been proven to cause it as of yet. I dont want my son getting measles which can cause death etc. I'd rather not take that chance.
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Posted 6/30/08 1:26 PM |
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Re: Vaccinations & Autism
Don't forget that asperger's syndrome, a newer diagnosis that falls under the autism spectrum, upped the 1 in 150 stats.
Also, many kids are being misdiagnosed with autism to get the services, thats part of the stats.
There is no scientific link yet. More research is showing the link to genetics. i know many siblings who have autism. The second sibling wasn't vaccinated because the parents believed it caused their first child's autism, and the child still had it.... Also, twins and triplets with autism....
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Posted 6/30/08 2:08 PM |
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Porrruss
Nya nya nya

Member since 5/05 11618 total posts
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Re: Vaccinations & Autism
Posted by lipglossjunky73
Don't forget that asperger's syndrome, a newer diagnosis that falls under the autism spectrum, upped the 1 in 150 stats.
Also, many kids are being misdiagnosed with autism to get the services, thats part of the stats.
There is no scientific link yet. More research is showing the link to genetics. i know many siblings who have autism. The second sibling wasn't vaccinated because the parents believed it caused their first child's autism, and the child still had it.... Also, twins and triplets with autism....
Liza- I've wanted to ask you. Is there an even *newer* Dx that falls under the PDD spectrum? My school psychologist mentioned PDD-NOS, Rhetts, Autism, High Functioning Autism , and Asbergers.
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Posted 6/30/08 2:35 PM |
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