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Bugaboo
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IT'S THE LAW! - MANDATORY BREASTFEEDING FOR 6 MOS. IN INDONESIA
I really can't believe you can go to jail if you don't!! 
Mandatory Breastfeeding
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maymama
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Re: IT'S THE LAW! - MANDATORY BREASTFEEDING FOR 6 MOS. IN INDONESIA
i didnt read the article ... does it say what happens if you physically cant BF? 
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| Posted 8/12/10 1:17 PM |
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Angel321
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Re: IT'S THE LAW! - MANDATORY BREASTFEEDING FOR 6 MOS. IN INDONESIA
Indonesian mums who do not breastfeed may face jail
Thu, Aug 12, 2010
The Jakarta Post/Asia News Network
JAKARTA - UNDER a law to be enforced from October, Indonesian women who refuse to breastfeed their newborn babies may face jail sentences or big fines for denying their children's right to six months of exclusive breast milk.
Under Article 128 of the 2009 Law on Health, it is stipulated that babies have such a right unless their mothers cannot fulfil their obligation due to medical problems.
Article 200 adds that a mother who declines to exclusively breastfeed her children will face a maximum of one year in prison or a 100 million rupiah (S$15,100) fine.
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Professor Sarsintorini Putra, a law expert, said on Tuesday that other people, including employers, who prevent women from breastfeeding their children would also face punishment.
The law says that employers that do not support the breastfeeding movement will be imprisoned or fined.
Though passed by the House of Representatives on Oct 13 last year, the law did not come into effect immediately, due to the absence of government regulations that would allow its implementation.
In a further move, Indonesia's Health Ministry is working on a decree to restrict advertisements on baby-formula milk.
"I don't think there will be much opposition to this," Health Minister Endang Sedyaningsih said, after the unveiling of the "10 steps to successful breastfeeding" campaign on Sunday.
"As of the beginning of the year, we (have) stopped accepting sponsorships from baby-formula milk producers for institutions under the ministry."
The 10 steps include a public-awareness campaign targeting pregnant women on the importance of breastfeeding; the provision of assistance for breastfeeding within the first hour of birth, and for breastfeeding on demand; the need to restrict infant intake to only breast milk and the prohibition of pacifiers; and the promotion of breastfeeding support groups in communities.
A national survey carried out between 2004 and 2008, monitoring exclusive breastfeeding rates for infants under six months, found that in 2004, the rate reached 58.9 per cent but decreased to 56.2 per cent in 2008, after reaching 62.2 per cent in 2007._____________________________________________________________
all i can say is WOW.
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| Posted 8/12/10 1:20 PM |
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Bugaboo
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Re: IT'S THE LAW! - MANDATORY BREASTFEEDING FOR 6 MOS. IN INDONESIA
Posted by mamakap
i didnt read the article ... does it say what happens if you physically cant BF?
Only if you have a medical problem. I don't know how they will really enforce this law.
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| Posted 8/12/10 1:20 PM |
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BethanyLynn
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Re: IT'S THE LAW! - MANDATORY BREASTFEEDING FOR 6 MOS. IN INDONESIA
Disturbing!
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| Posted 8/12/10 1:21 PM |
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KrisT
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Re: IT'S THE LAW! - MANDATORY BREASTFEEDING FOR 6 MOS. IN INDONESIA
That is awful and makes me very happy that I live in the US and can choose to do what I want with MY body!!!!!!!!!!!
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| Posted 8/12/10 1:22 PM |
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Tine73
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Re: IT'S THE LAW! - MANDATORY BREASTFEEDING FOR 6 MOS. IN INDONESIA
Good thing I don't live there!
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| Posted 8/12/10 1:22 PM |
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lucyloo
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Re: IT'S THE LAW! - MANDATORY BREASTFEEDING FOR 6 MOS. IN INDONESIA
Wow that's pretty insane.
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| Posted 8/12/10 1:24 PM |
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Ophelia
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remember, when Gulliver traveled....
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Re: IT'S THE LAW! - MANDATORY BREASTFEEDING FOR 6 MOS. IN INDONESIA
Under Article 128 of the 2009 Law on Health, it is stipulated that babies have such a right unless their mothers cannot fulfil their obligation due to medical problems.
The law says that employers that do not support the breastfeeding movement will be imprisoned or fined
The 10 steps include a public-awareness campaign targeting pregnant women on the importance of breastfeeding; the provision of assistance for breastfeeding within the first hour of birth, and for breastfeeding on demand; the need to restrict infant intake to only breast milk and the prohibition of pacifiers; and the promotion of breastfeeding support groups in communities
just bolding these points b/c I find them very interesting.
in the very least, it's a fairly well rounded law. protects those who cannot from punishment, requires employers to be supportive (which is key) and is targeting public awareness.
since we cannot be sure what kind of formula they are using there...where it has so much of the same benefits that the brands we use here have, I will not condemn the law.
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| Posted 8/12/10 1:24 PM |
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Tah-wee-ZAH
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Re: IT'S THE LAW! - MANDATORY BREASTFEEDING FOR 6 MOS. IN INDONESIA
As I always say to my students:
"To be a woman in America, is to be one of the luckiest women in the world."
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| Posted 8/12/10 1:24 PM |
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maymama
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Re: IT'S THE LAW! - MANDATORY BREASTFEEDING FOR 6 MOS. IN INDONESIA
did Gisele move to Indonesia? 
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| Posted 8/12/10 1:25 PM |
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maymama
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Re: IT'S THE LAW! - MANDATORY BREASTFEEDING FOR 6 MOS. IN INDONESIA
Posted by Tah-wee-ZAH
As I always say to my students:
"To be a woman in America, is to be one of the luckiest women in the world."
i vaguely remember this  
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| Posted 8/12/10 1:26 PM |
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NervousNell
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Re: IT'S THE LAW! - MANDATORY BREASTFEEDING FOR 6 MOS. IN INDONESIA
How would they enforce this?
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| Posted 8/12/10 1:26 PM |
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4PsInaPod
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Re: IT'S THE LAW! - MANDATORY BREASTFEEDING FOR 6 MOS. IN INDONESIA
Posted by mamakap
did Gisele move to Indonesia?
I just Laughed Out Loud at my cubicle!!!!
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| Posted 8/12/10 1:29 PM |
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Momma2Be
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Re: IT'S THE LAW! - MANDATORY BREASTFEEDING FOR 6 MOS. IN INDONESIA
Posted by Ophelia
just bolding these points b/c I find them very interesting.
in the very least, it's a fairly well rounded law. protects those who cannot from punishment, requires employers to be supportive (which is key) and is targeting public awareness.
since we cannot be sure what kind of formula they are using there...where it has so much of the same benefits that the brands we use here have, I will not condemn the law.
Although I don't agree with a government dictating how a woman chooses to feed her child, I do agree with you that at least it increases public awareness and forces employers to be supportive to breastfeeding mothers.
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| Posted 8/12/10 1:31 PM |
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MetsGirl07
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Re: IT'S THE LAW! - MANDATORY BREASTFEEDING FOR 6 MOS. IN INDONESIA
Posted by mamakap
did Gisele move to Indonesia?
i was thinking the same thing!!
that really is messed up... such BS
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| Posted 8/12/10 1:34 PM |
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Shorty
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Re: IT'S THE LAW! - MANDATORY BREASTFEEDING FOR 6 MOS. IN INDONESIA
me thinks this isn't the only gazelle that should live in indonesia
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| Posted 8/12/10 1:34 PM |
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Ophelia
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remember, when Gulliver traveled....
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Re: IT'S THE LAW! - MANDATORY BREASTFEEDING FOR 6 MOS. IN INDONESIA
Posted by Momma2Be
Posted by Ophelia
just bolding these points b/c I find them very interesting.
in the very least, it's a fairly well rounded law. protects those who cannot from punishment, requires employers to be supportive (which is key) and is targeting public awareness.
since we cannot be sure what kind of formula they are using there...where it has so much of the same benefits that the brands we use here have, I will not condemn the law.
Although I don't agree with a government dictating how a woman chooses to feed her child, I do agree with you that at least it increases public awareness and forces employers to be supportive to breastfeeding mothers.
exactly, I don't necessarily agree with it either. but I am an american woman, like tahwezah said.
I do think it is remarkable that they've taken such steps and such recognition to the difficulties a bf'ing woman is facing, considering indonesia is the most populous muslim country in the world, and as a complete generality, woman's rights and struggles are not normally on the radar of the govt's in the muslim world.
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Posted by Momma2Be
Posted by Ophelia
just bolding these points b/c I find them very interesting.
in the very least, it's a fairly well rounded law. protects those who cannot from punishment, requires employers to be supportive (which is key) and is targeting public awareness.
since we cannot be sure what kind of formula they are using there...where it has so much of the same benefits that the brands we use here have, I will not condemn the law.
Although I don't agree with a government dictating how a woman chooses to feed her child, I do agree with you that at least it increases public awareness and forces employers to be supportive to breastfeeding mothers.
Sorry I don't agree. My body my choice. Why not make guidlines for formula there than instead of forcing something down someones throat.
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Tah-wee-ZAH
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Re: IT'S THE LAW! - MANDATORY BREASTFEEDING FOR 6 MOS. IN INDONESIA
Posted by mamakap
Posted by Tah-wee-ZAH
As I always say to my students:
"To be a woman in America, is to be one of the luckiest women in the world."
i vaguely remember this
Vaguely!!!!
Oh well, my "cover" is blown!
This story only scratches the surface.
Indonesia has the fastest growing Islamic Fundamentalist population in the world... faster than any Middle Eastern or S. Asian nation... women are loosing many rights.
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| Posted 8/12/10 1:41 PM |
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dm24angel
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Re: IT'S THE LAW! - MANDATORY BREASTFEEDING FOR 6 MOS. IN INDONESIA
Just insane in this day and age....there are so many more dire things to address then this. As far as enforcement...only thing I can think of is requiring proof of a childs age before allowing someone to feed formula? Idkm
Just appaling to me that any government would control their women in this way in 2010. Regardless of any "good" that might come from it for employees bf'ing...the loss of respect for individual choices..basically EVERYTHING else about it makes that good point almost null.
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| Posted 8/12/10 1:46 PM |
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Ophelia
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remember, when Gulliver traveled....
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Re: IT'S THE LAW! - MANDATORY BREASTFEEDING FOR 6 MOS. IN INDONESIA
I think we need to keep in mind that women do not have room for individual choice is so many parts of the world, regardless of how we feel/what we think about it.
so while it seems appalling to us that the govt would take such a measure, the reality is it could have been much worse.
they could have enacted this law with NO exception for inability, NO employer support, and NO campaign for awareness whatsoever.
they could have made it punishable by death.
so while I can see who many people look at it as a woman losing her rights, think still think the recognition is huge.
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| Posted 8/12/10 1:50 PM |
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Posted by dm24angel
Just appaling to me that any government would control their women in this way in 2010. Regardless of any "good" that might come from it for employees bf'ing...the loss of respect for individual choices..basically EVERYTHING else about it makes that good point almost null.
But their government also gives them 3 months of maternity leave, at 100% of their salary during that time....
I'm not saying I necessarily agree with the law, but I do recognize that there are many countries in this world who dictate and control their citizen's lives.
This country was founded by people who felt, as many of us do, that human beings deserved certain "inalienable rights"....liberties that we take for granted very often. Many (perhaps most) other countries do not allow their citizens the same choices and freedoms. It doesn't make it worse, just different....It's why I am proud to be an American - where I DO have the right to say what I do with my life, my money, my body.
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| Posted 8/12/10 2:06 PM |
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CaseyGirl
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Re: IT'S THE LAW! - MANDATORY BREASTFEEDING FOR 6 MOS. IN INDONESIA
They must be big fans of Gisele Bundchen is Indonesia
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| Posted 8/12/10 2:17 PM |
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mommyIam
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Re: IT'S THE LAW! - MANDATORY BREASTFEEDING FOR 6 MOS. IN INDONESIA
A very good friend of mine is from indonesia. From what I've learned from her, that country is f-up in how they treat women. If a boat is sinking they save men first, then children, then women. Its their culture to throw away women.
With that said, I'm actually surprised the law is so well rounded, but I don't think it would have any legs in country where women are worth as much as men.
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