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lucyloo
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John White Sentence
Anyone else following this?
I'm ticked off that the race card had to be brought into this. A grown man left the safety of his house walked down the driveway with a loaded gun to a mob of angry teenagers and shot one of them.
Whether the gun went off intentionally or not the intent was there. This man should have stayed in his house and called the police.
I don't think 2-4 years is enough.
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Ambersmom
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Re: John White Sentence
Posted by dita
Anyone else following this?
I'm ticked off that the race card had to be brought into this. A grown man left the safety of his house walked down the driveway with a loaded gun to a mob of angry teenagers and shot one of them.
Whether the gun went off intentionally or not the intent was there. This man should have stayed in his house and called the police.
I don't think 2-4 years is enough.
I am with you. I think the sentence was unfair. The excuse that he was protecting his home is bull. He should have called the cops instead of playing vigilante. I can see why the family is so riled up.
However, on the flip side, I hardly think the kid who was murdered was an innocent lamb. I think he was a bit of a rebel rouser who was looking for trouble that night. The family as a whole tends to have an anger management issue. As upset as the father was yesterday (and believe me, I know I would feel 100x worse if it was my kid), he should have thought before he spoke. He's doing his son's memory a disservice by making threats, etc. The media is running wild with it and now there's potential legal repercussions due to it. I feel bad for everyone involved since they'll never be any healing of either family.
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pebbles419
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Re: John White Sentence
Posted by Ambersmom
Posted by dita
Anyone else following this?
I'm ticked off that the race card had to be brought into this. A grown man left the safety of his house walked down the driveway with a loaded gun to a mob of angry teenagers and shot one of them.
Whether the gun went off intentionally or not the intent was there. This man should have stayed in his house and called the police.
I don't think 2-4 years is enough.
I am with you. I think the sentence was unfair. The excuse that he was protecting his home is bull. He should have called the cops instead of playing vigilante. I can see why the family is so riled up.
However, on the flip side, I hardly think the kid who was murdered was an innocent lamb. I think he was a bit of a rebel rouser who was looking for trouble that night. The family as a whole tends to have an anger management issue. As upset as the father was yesterday (and believe me, I know I would feel 100x worse if it was my kid), he should have thought before he spoke. He's doing his son's memory a disservice by making threats, etc. The media is running wild with it and now there's potential legal repercussions due to it. I feel bad for everyone involved since they'll never be any healing of either family.
I completely agree!
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Re: John White Sentence
Posted by Ambersmom
Posted by dita
Anyone else following this?
I'm ticked off that the race card had to be brought into this. A grown man left the safety of his house walked down the driveway with a loaded gun to a mob of angry teenagers and shot one of them.
Whether the gun went off intentionally or not the intent was there. This man should have stayed in his house and called the police.
I don't think 2-4 years is enough.
I am with you. I think the sentence was unfair. The excuse that he was protecting his home is bull. He should have called the cops instead of playing vigilante. I can see why the family is so riled up.
However, on the flip side, I hardly think the kid who was murdered was an innocent lamb. I think he was a bit of a rebel rouser who was looking for trouble that night. The family as a whole tends to have an anger management issue. As upset as the father was yesterday (and believe me, I know I would feel 100x worse if it was my kid), he should have thought before he spoke. He's doing his son's memory a disservice by making threats, etc. The media is running wild with it and now there's potential legal repercussions due to it. I feel bad for everyone involved since they'll never be any healing of either family.
this was really well put  i agree as well.
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| Posted 3/20/08 1:24 PM |
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LIMOMx2
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Re: John White Sentence
I do agree with the sentence.
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| Posted 3/20/08 1:33 PM |
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KGools
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Re: John White Sentence
I was drifting off last night when the father of the boy killed started going off on his emotional rant... however, given the circumstances, I think 2-4 years isn't enough time.
Like the OP stated, the intent was there. He is a grown, adult man... he should've stayed in his house, called the cops and let THEM deal with the teenage hooligans causing trouble in front of his house. He had no right to step outside of his house and threaten those kids with a gun... black, white, purple, or green. That's JMO though... I don't know a ton about the case.
ETA: Either way, it's sad for both families. One family lost a child, while another family is branded for life for one bad judgement call.
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NS1976
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Re: John White Sentence
Posted by Ambersmom
Posted by dita
Anyone else following this?
I'm ticked off that the race card had to be brought into this. A grown man left the safety of his house walked down the driveway with a loaded gun to a mob of angry teenagers and shot one of them.
Whether the gun went off intentionally or not the intent was there. This man should have stayed in his house and called the police.
I don't think 2-4 years is enough.
I am with you. I think the sentence was unfair. The excuse that he was protecting his home is bull. He should have called the cops instead of playing vigilante. I can see why the family is so riled up.
However, on the flip side, I hardly think the kid who was murdered was an innocent lamb. I think he was a bit of a rebel rouser who was looking for trouble that night. The family as a whole tends to have an anger management issue. As upset as the father was yesterday (and believe me, I know I would feel 100x worse if it was my kid), he should have thought before he spoke. He's doing his son's memory a disservice by making threats, etc. The media is running wild with it and now there's potential legal repercussions due to it. I feel bad for everyone involved since they'll never be any healing of either family.
I so totally agree with everything said here. I could have never explained it better. Both families seem scarred forever and its actually really sad.
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| Posted 3/20/08 1:37 PM |
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Faithx2
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Re: John White Sentence
Posted by pebbles419
Posted by Ambersmom
Posted by dita
Anyone else following this?
I'm ticked off that the race card had to be brought into this. A grown man left the safety of his house walked down the driveway with a loaded gun to a mob of angry teenagers and shot one of them.
Whether the gun went off intentionally or not the intent was there. This man should have stayed in his house and called the police.
I don't think 2-4 years is enough.
I am with you. I think the sentence was unfair. The excuse that he was protecting his home is bull. He should have called the cops instead of playing vigilante. I can see why the family is so riled up.
However, on the flip side, I hardly think the kid who was murdered was an innocent lamb. I think he was a bit of a rebel rouser who was looking for trouble that night. The family as a whole tends to have an anger management issue. As upset as the father was yesterday (and believe me, I know I would feel 100x worse if it was my kid), he should have thought before he spoke. He's doing his son's memory a disservice by making threats, etc. The media is running wild with it and now there's potential legal repercussions due to it. I feel bad for everyone involved since they'll never be any healing of either family.
I completely agree!
ITA!! The father was an absolute animal yelling at the press conference. While I do not agree with the sentence the White family has acted with a bit more class. It's not a black-white issue, it's a right or wrong issue.
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| Posted 3/20/08 1:40 PM |
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Beth
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Re: John White Sentence
no I don't agree- regardless of what this kid and his friends were doing- they were unarmed and to shot unarmed person on your lawn is murder
that's what the police are for-
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| Posted 3/20/08 1:41 PM |
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mama2charles
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Re: John White Sentence
Posted by Beth1210
no I don't agree- regardless of what this kid and his friends were doing- they were unarmed and to shot unarmed person on your lawn is murder
that's what the police are for-
ITA
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LizD
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Re: John White Sentence
honestly, I am alright with this sentence. I can not honestly tell you what I would do if someone was on my property, threatening my child. While I do agree that the best thing would have been to call the police, I was not there and do not know exactly what happened that night. There was more than the 1 kid there, so how do we know if this man felt threatened or not. Just because they did not have guns, does not mean that they could not have harmed his family. Armed or not, they were on his property, in a threatening manner. They were not there selling girl scout cookies!!
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NoStressMom
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Re: John White Sentence
Posted by nycchic24
Posted by Ambersmom
Posted by dita
Anyone else following this?
I'm ticked off that the race card had to be brought into this. A grown man left the safety of his house walked down the driveway with a loaded gun to a mob of angry teenagers and shot one of them.
Whether the gun went off intentionally or not the intent was there. This man should have stayed in his house and called the police.
I don't think 2-4 years is enough.
I am with you. I think the sentence was unfair. The excuse that he was protecting his home is bull. He should have called the cops instead of playing vigilante. I can see why the family is so riled up.
However, on the flip side, I hardly think the kid who was murdered was an innocent lamb. I think he was a bit of a rebel rouser who was looking for trouble that night. The family as a whole tends to have an anger management issue. As upset as the father was yesterday (and believe me, I know I would feel 100x worse if it was my kid), he should have thought before he spoke. He's doing his son's memory a disservice by making threats, etc. The media is running wild with it and now there's potential legal repercussions due to it. I feel bad for everyone involved since they'll never be any healing of either family.
I so totally agree with everything said here. I could have never explained it better. Both families seem scarred forever and its actually really sad.
I feel the same way. Its sad for everyone involved.
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CCMommy
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Re: John White Sentence
My DH knows this guy (has worked with him pretty recently)
He explained to everyone while working with them what happened.. I just think it's a really screwed up situation..
DH said he just seems like such a normal dad 
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HeathKernandez
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Re: John White Sentence
Posted by BlessedMommy
Posted by pebbles419
Posted by Ambersmom
Posted by dita
Anyone else following this?
I'm ticked off that the race card had to be brought into this. A grown man left the safety of his house walked down the driveway with a loaded gun to a mob of angry teenagers and shot one of them.
Whether the gun went off intentionally or not the intent was there. This man should have stayed in his house and called the police.
I don't think 2-4 years is enough.
I am with you. I think the sentence was unfair. The excuse that he was protecting his home is bull. He should have called the cops instead of playing vigilante. I can see why the family is so riled up.
However, on the flip side, I hardly think the kid who was murdered was an innocent lamb. I think he was a bit of a rebel rouser who was looking for trouble that night. The family as a whole tends to have an anger management issue. As upset as the father was yesterday (and believe me, I know I would feel 100x worse if it was my kid), he should have thought before he spoke. He's doing his son's memory a disservice by making threats, etc. The media is running wild with it and now there's potential legal repercussions due to it. I feel bad for everyone involved since they'll never be any healing of either family.
I completely agree!
ITA!! The father was an absolute animal yelling at the press conference. While I do not agree with the sentence the White family has acted with a bit more class. It's not a black-white issue, it's a right or wrong issue.
In the famed words of Daniel Cicciaro:
'Suffolk County *****...!'
I haven't been following the case, so I'm not sure on how I stand with the sentence but after witnessing the father in the press conference, I can only imagine what the kid was like...
However, I can't imagine what the father is going through... emotions are heavy.
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Kara
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Re: John White Sentence
Posted by dita
Whether the gun went off intentionally or not the intent was there.
I didn't follow this story really. If the gun went off unintentionally, how exactly was there intent?
Curious to know what he did that makes you so sure that he intended to kill someone instead of just scare them.
As I said, I don't know that case too well at all. Just curious.
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Ophelia
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Re: John White Sentence
Posted by LizD
honestly, I am alright with this sentence. I can not honestly tell you what I would do if someone was on my property, threatening my child. While I do agree that the best thing would have been to call the police, I was not there and do not know exactly what happened that night. There was more than the 1 kid there, so how do we know if this man felt threatened or not. Just because they did not have guns, does not mean that they could not have harmed his family. Armed or not, they were on his property, in a threatening manner. They were not there selling girl scout cookies!!
I agree with this. perhaps he went out with the gun solely with the intent of scaring the mob....just to get them away.
how terrible all around.
and the family of the kid that died...UGH..between the father's rampage yesterday and the mothers comments a few months ago...
does anyone know WHY those kids actually went to that house in the first place?
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Ophelia
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Re: John White Sentence
Posted by Kara
Posted by dita
Whether the gun went off intentionally or not the intent was there.
I didn't follow this story really. If the gun went off unintentionally, how exactly was there intent?
Curious to know what he did that makes you so sure that he intended to kill someone instead of just scare them.
As I said, I don't know that case too well at all. Just curious.
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HeathKernandez
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Re: John White Sentence
Posted by Ophelia
Posted by LizD
honestly, I am alright with this sentence. I can not honestly tell you what I would do if someone was on my property, threatening my child. While I do agree that the best thing would have been to call the police, I was not there and do not know exactly what happened that night. There was more than the 1 kid there, so how do we know if this man felt threatened or not. Just because they did not have guns, does not mean that they could not have harmed his family. Armed or not, they were on his property, in a threatening manner. They were not there selling girl scout cookies!!
I agree with this. perhaps he went out with the gun solely with the intent of scaring the mob....just to get them away.
how terrible all around.
and the family of the kid that died...UGH..between the father's rampage yesterday and the mothers comments a few months ago...
does anyone know WHY those kids actually went to that house in the first place?
Something about a phony internet threat someone made against a female from aaron white. ETA; It was a friend of aaron whites.
Riverhead police say this all started with an Internet prank sent from the MySpace page of White's son, 20-year-old Aaron. Under his screen name, a threatening message was sent to a teenage girl who was a close friend of Daniel Cicciaro.
The night Cicciaro was killed, he was at a party with the girl when they spotted Aaron White. According to court testimony, Cicciaro became angry and White was asked to leave. Aaron White testified that after he left the party, Cicciaro and a male friend called him on his cell phone, saying to him, "Get back to this party you n****r."
Aaron White says he then went home and received more calls from Cicciaro and his friends, telling him they were coming to his house to kill him. He then woke his father, who grabbed his handgun and waited for the boys to arrive.
Message edited 3/20/2008 2:26:35 PM.
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Re: John White Sentence
Posted by Ophelia
Posted by LizD
honestly, I am alright with this sentence. I can not honestly tell you what I would do if someone was on my property, threatening my child. While I do agree that the best thing would have been to call the police, I was not there and do not know exactly what happened that night. There was more than the 1 kid there, so how do we know if this man felt threatened or not. Just because they did not have guns, does not mean that they could not have harmed his family. Armed or not, they were on his property, in a threatening manner. They were not there selling girl scout cookies!!
I agree with this. perhaps he went out with the gun solely with the intent of scaring the mob....just to get them away.
how terrible all around.
and the family of the kid that died...UGH..between the father's rampage yesterday and the mothers comments a few months ago...
does anyone know WHY those kids actually went to that house in the first place?
If I'm remembering correctly, there was some rumor going around the web that John White's teenaged son was planning on raping the other teen's cousin or friend or something. So a small gang of drunk teens show up at this house to beat the heck out of John White's kid.
It's a hard situation. They show up, angry & belligerent in the middle of the night threatening your child. It's hard to say how you'd react.
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lucyloo
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Re: John White Sentence
Posted by Kara
Posted by dita
Whether the gun went off intentionally or not the intent was there.
I didn't follow this story really. If the gun went off unintentionally, how exactly was there intent?
Curious to know what he did that makes you so sure that he intended to kill someone instead of just scare them.
As I said, I don't know that case too well at all. Just curious.
The gun was loaded and the safety was off. I see that as intent.
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Ophelia
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Re: John White Sentence
Posted by carolinep24
Posted by Ophelia
Posted by LizD
honestly, I am alright with this sentence. I can not honestly tell you what I would do if someone was on my property, threatening my child. While I do agree that the best thing would have been to call the police, I was not there and do not know exactly what happened that night. There was more than the 1 kid there, so how do we know if this man felt threatened or not. Just because they did not have guns, does not mean that they could not have harmed his family. Armed or not, they were on his property, in a threatening manner. They were not there selling girl scout cookies!!
I agree with this. perhaps he went out with the gun solely with the intent of scaring the mob....just to get them away.
how terrible all around.
and the family of the kid that died...UGH..between the father's rampage yesterday and the mothers comments a few months ago...
does anyone know WHY those kids actually went to that house in the first place?
Something about a phony internet threat someone made against a female from aaron white. ETA; It was a friend of aaron whites.
Riverhead police say this all started with an Internet prank sent from the MySpace page of White's son, 20-year-old Aaron. Under his screen name, a threatening message was sent to a teenage girl who was a close friend of Daniel Cicciaro.
The night Cicciaro was killed, he was at a party with the girl when they spotted Aaron White. According to court testimony, Cicciaro became angry and White was asked to leave. Aaron White testified that after he left the party, Cicciaro and a male friend called him on his cell phone, saying to him, "Get back to this party you n****r."
Aaron White says he then went home and received more calls from Cicciaro and his friends, telling him they were coming to his house to kill him. He then woke his father, who grabbed his handgun and waited for the boys to arrive.
wow...
so who are people saying pulled the race card? if this testimony is true, it appears that had Cicciaro not be killed, he would have been charged with a hate crime had they called the police.
black person + white mob= too much terrible history to not take it seriously.
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Re: John White Sentence
Posted by Ophelia
does anyone know WHY those kids actually went to that house in the first place?
From what I understand, they were coming to beat up John White's son. He was protecting his child.
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BabyAvocado
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Re: John White Sentence
I'm a little torn on this one.
I know of cases where the defendant is getting no less than double digits for committing crimes where NO ONE was hurt and they had no prior rap sheet. Yes, there was intent to commit a crime in such cases, but again - no intent to hurt anyone.
I haven't followed this one closely enough to decide. But I am surprised by how short the sentence is.
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HeathKernandez
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Re: John White Sentence
Posted by Ophelia
Posted by carolinep24
Posted by Ophelia
Posted by LizD
honestly, I am alright with this sentence. I can not honestly tell you what I would do if someone was on my property, threatening my child. While I do agree that the best thing would have been to call the police, I was not there and do not know exactly what happened that night. There was more than the 1 kid there, so how do we know if this man felt threatened or not. Just because they did not have guns, does not mean that they could not have harmed his family. Armed or not, they were on his property, in a threatening manner. They were not there selling girl scout cookies!!
I agree with this. perhaps he went out with the gun solely with the intent of scaring the mob....just to get them away.
how terrible all around.
and the family of the kid that died...UGH..between the father's rampage yesterday and the mothers comments a few months ago...
does anyone know WHY those kids actually went to that house in the first place?
Something about a phony internet threat someone made against a female from aaron white. ETA; It was a friend of aaron whites.
Riverhead police say this all started with an Internet prank sent from the MySpace page of White's son, 20-year-old Aaron. Under his screen name, a threatening message was sent to a teenage girl who was a close friend of Daniel Cicciaro.
The night Cicciaro was killed, he was at a party with the girl when they spotted Aaron White. According to court testimony, Cicciaro became angry and White was asked to leave. Aaron White testified that after he left the party, Cicciaro and a male friend called him on his cell phone, saying to him, "Get back to this party you n****r."
Aaron White says he then went home and received more calls from Cicciaro and his friends, telling him they were coming to his house to kill him. He then woke his father, who grabbed his handgun and waited for the boys to arrive.
wow...
so who are people saying pulled the race card? if this testimony is true, it appears that had Cicciaro not be killed, he would have been charged with a hate crime had they called the police.
black person + white mob= too much terrible history to not take it seriously.
I know the mother made comments publically but the race card was played back & forth through the trial
the father made some awful threats after the sentencing.
What's odd is the 2 boys were FRIENDLY before the incident.. they were in the same group of friends.
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Ophelia
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Re: John White Sentence
Posted by carolinep24
I know the mother made comments publically but the race card was played back & forth through the trial
the father made some awful threats after the sentencing.
What's odd is the 2 boys were FRIENDLY before the incident.. they were in the same group of friends.
my point is, if the deceased called Aaron White the "N" word, HE brought race into this before the gun went off. it has nothing to do with the trial.
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