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Re: C-Sections by Choice
Everyone else's comments aside, I will tell you my personal experiences if it helps in your decision making process.
I went into natural labor. My baby was not to large for me, but his heart rate did drop during labor enough for them to decide to have an emergency c/s. Mind you, I have no tollerance for pain and at 2cm I was already begging for an epidural. On day 2 they took out my spinal and I never had any pain meds after that. I left the hospital a day early and I never even filled the pain med prescription. Everything went really well for me. I took it a little slower the first week, but after that was feeling good.
That being said, I have a friend who did not have an easy c/s recovery. I have 2 friends who had a great vaginal recoveries. I also have 2 friends that took 4-6 weeks to recover from their vaginal births.
Everyone is different. Whatever your choice, you can't predict the outcome--for you or the baby.
Have a happy and healthy 9 months and a great delivery!
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Re: C-Sections by Choice
Posted by krashnburn
Everyone else's comments aside, I will tell you my personal experiences if it helps in your decision making process.
I went into natural labor. My baby was not to large for me, but his heart rate did drop during labor enough for them to decide to have an emergency c/s. Mind you, I have no tollerance for pain and at 2cm I was already begging for an epidural. On day 2 they took out my spinal and I never had any pain meds after that. I left the hospital a day early and I never even filled the pain med prescription. Everything went really well for me. I took it a little slower the first week, but after that was feeling good.
That being said, I have a friend who did not have an easy c/s recovery. I have 2 friends who had a great vaginal recoveries. I also have 2 friends that took 4-6 weeks to recover from their vaginal births.
Everyone is different. Whatever your choice, you can't predict the outcome--for you or the baby.
Have a happy and healthy 9 months and a great delivery!
Thanks for sharing those stories. I agree, whatever you choice, you can't predict the outcome. Great line. Glad it all worked out great for you. I am sure plenty of women would say the same thng as you.
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Re: C-Sections by Choice
I had a scheduled c-section.
Honestly, I never thought I woud deliver via a vaginal delivery. I had a fear of it and just could not imagine a baby coming out of me "that way".
That being said, I heard of pros and cons from other moms... which in the end meant NOTHING to my case.
At 24 weeks PG I had to have an outpatient surgey due to hemorrhoids being so bad. At that point, we discussed the possibility of one with my OB and what "could" happen with a vaginal delivery. She understood how bad it was and we had to consider that option. But we did not rule out a vaginal delivery. At that point though, "I" knew I would get a c-section. At 29 weeks, I had problems again. The colon rectal/surgeon could not do another procedure at that time. We were just "buying" time at that time. Knowing that everyday I could get another huge flare up.
We decided on a c-section with the OB and her partner. They both understood that it would take me weeks of recovery at that point with a vaginal delivery and hemorrhoids being already to bad. About the same time or more than with a c-section.
I was told of the fact that it was a major surgery, the risks, etc...
But in the end, the though of more problems wth the "back door" was just too much for me.
After all of that and trying to avoid more issues, I had a major attack 2 days before the c-section. I was in agony and nothing could be done. I had a surgeon come see me in the recovery room and we discussed options for the future.
LONG answer but it's never just black and white.
I had a very long recovery. I also could not take pain killers. Thankfully DH was off for 2 weeks.
Still I would not have done any other way. I will get another c-section for #2
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Re: C-Sections by Choice
Posted by Porrruss
I think we are all getting away from the original topic. This isn't about someone who is being given the choice due to extenuating circumstances. This thread is about the OP being offered the choice of a c/s when she is 10 WEEKS PREGNANT!!!!!
EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: C-Sections by Choice
Posted by Princessmaris
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A c-section affects you and your baby. We need to think about the affect on the baby too.
And what effects on baby are you referring too?
I had a c-section, due to some complications in my pregnancy and the fact the Dr had to take DS early. There were no effects on him whatsoever, and other than recovery no effects on me either.
There are always risks for both mom and baby. (Im not even going to go into this, because it will only scare moms to be)
Babies who are born via c-sectins have higher rates of respiratory difficulty and lower apgar scores and higher incidence of NICU time after delivery than vaginal births. The reason for this is when the baby is birthed vaginally, the process of being pushed out helps to expell amniotic fluid from the babys lungs. Remember for 9 months the baby has bein urinating and drinking the fluid (amniotic fluid). The process of birth helps to expell the fluid and get the babys lungs ready to breathe air, not amniotic fluid.
During a c-section, this does not happen and while many babies take a few good deep breather of air that pushes the fluid into the interstitial spaces that is later excreted out by urine, mny don't get their lungs open enough and develop respitatory distress and can later get an infection (pneumonia) from teh fluid still left in the lungs.
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Re: C-Sections by Choice
Posted by pickles16
Posted by Porrruss
I think we are all getting away from the original topic. This isn't about someone who is being given the choice due to extenuating circumstances. This thread is about the OP being offered the choice of a c/s when she is 10 WEEKS PREGNANT!!!!!
EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
exadtly! this is what i was trying to say
elective meaning; nothing is wrong, you are still in 1st trimester, why is the dr. even mentioning at this point
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Re: C-Sections by Choice
Posted by KateDevine
I wouldn't elect to have a c-section. It is major surgery with major recovery time.
Posted by Kelly9904
ETA: Also my dr cancelled her appts for 4 hours the day I went in so I can say she didnt profit from my c-section as much as she would have if I had a v-delivery
Yeah, um, honestly, you haven't gotten your bill yet for your section. They charge like $30k for it (my vaginal birth was $12k). The doctor charges like $42 an appointment, so cancelling her appointments probably didn't effect her too much.
Actually Yes I did get my bill - DS was born over 6 months ago and I have seen every peice of the bill for DS, again my Dr isnt the one who preformed my c-section so I do know how much she made and if she cancelled 10 appts, she lost money.
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Re: C-Sections by Choice
Posted by Kelly9904
Actually Yes I did get my bill - DS was born over 6 months ago and I have seen every peice of the bill for DS, again my Dr isnt the one who preformed my c-section so I do know how much she made and if she cancelled 10 appts, she lost money.
Just because I am curious -- how much $$ did she make? Insurers budle maternity care, so I am curious as to how they would split the bill between multiple providers.
ETA: Also, why didn't she do the surgery? I thought all OBs were surgeons.
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Re: C-Sections by Choice
I burst into tears when my doctor suggested that I have a c-section because I was not dilating and my baby was showing signs of distress. I even said to DH, "This was not my birthplan!"
Turns out the cord was around her neck and was preventing her from descending. My doctor said that there was no way I would have been able to have a vaginal birth.
I recovered really quickly from my c-section and felt fine 24 hours later. But I do wish that circumstances were different and I had had a vaginal delivery. If I have a 2nd child I would really want a vbac.
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Re: C-Sections by Choice
I am a firm believer of women being able to have birth choices but I also think it is irresponsible for a doctor to pose the question and not discuss ALL of your risks. It is also insane for a doctor IMO to just ask you for no medical reason. I mean, that seems like it is being asked for MONEY. Sorry, but there is more money paid to doctors who perform c/s than a vaginal birth.
You must understand the full risks...including the fact that I needed a 2nd surgery to repair scar tissue and was in pain for nearly 11 months after until the repair surgery.
IF a women is given ALL of the real risks and still wants a c/s then she is making an informed choice and I am a believer in that. But to offer a c/s for no-medical reason is not good medical judgement IMO and I would be worried about that doctor.
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Re: C-Sections by Choice
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i really do NOT see the analogy of elective c-section and plastic surgery
sorry -
I believe the original poster made the point that like cosmetic surgery, a c-section v. vaginal birth should be a choice that an informed adult should be allowed to make.
I do think perhaps the reason a woman would elect to have a c-section for no true "medical" reason is to preserve the "area" lol, and after all...isn't that cosmetic really?!
For me, I had 2 c-sections; one was unplanned and one was scheduled (even though I desired a VBAC) and I would NEVER opt for surgery without a medical reason. However...the pro for me...my vagina is exactly the same as it always was   besides that and the health of my DDs...everything else was a con for me.
I didn't say anything about whether or not c-sections should or should not be based on choice. I simply stated that my doctor asked me, and I didn't know how to respond. I always thought c-sections were for women who needed them out of medical necessity. I asked LIFers about the pros and cons to c-sections in general. (but thanks for your post anyway!)
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Re: C-Sections by Choice
Posted by nyteacher13
Posted by Eireann
Posted by snowflake08
i really do NOT see the analogy of elective c-section and plastic surgery
sorry -
I believe the original poster made the point that like cosmetic surgery, a c-section v. vaginal birth should be a choice that an informed adult should be allowed to make.
I do think perhaps the reason a woman would elect to have a c-section for no true "medical" reason is to preserve the "area" lol, and after all...isn't that cosmetic really?!
For me, I had 2 c-sections; one was unplanned and one was scheduled (even though I desired a VBAC) and I would NEVER opt for surgery without a medical reason. However...the pro for me...my vagina is exactly the same as it always was besides that and the health of my DDs...everything else was a con for me.
I didn't say anything about whether or not c-sections should or should not be based on choice. I simply stated that my doctor asked me, and I didn't know how to respond. I always thought c-sections were for women who needed them out of medical necessity. I asked LIFers about the pros and cons to c-sections in general. (but thanks for your post anyway!)
I don't believe they were referring to you. They were referring to a comment I made about women making choices everyday to have major surgery for cosmetic reasons so I also felt this should be a woman's choice as well (after being educated of course).
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Re: C-Sections by Choice
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Mine gave me a choice. It doesn't make me think any differently of him. My choice will be based on what my future (as soon as my future seems to be) brings. It is too early to tell right now and frankly, seeing how the choices of full grown adults are in fact being judged here, I would ultimately keep my choice to myself. Spare me the lectures, it wouldn't sway me either way. I am a full grown adult, highly educated and can make decisions on my own.
I have had major elective laparoscopic abdominal surgery before and nobody gave me crap for that. This shouldn't be any different.
Bottom line...It is nobody's damn business.
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I was induced and after 2 days and not dialating, my doc asked me if I wanted the C-section... So i chose to have it. I was perfectly fine with the whole recovery
(but thats just me)
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Re: C-Sections by Choice
Actually the original poster asked for opinions. 
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Re: C-Sections by Choice
I shall state my opinion then if it wasn't clear.
It is OPINION that what happens between a doctor and a patient is nobody's business.
When people choose to post about choices here, it becomes fodder for three days (case and point in this thread) and people end up doing what they want anyway. I want to believe in my heart that we are influenced by more than what we read here - rather by the medical excellence of the people we entrust with our lives as well as the first few moments of the lives of our precious children. I am sure that many of my prenatal choices have been scoffed at already. In fact, I know they have. Starting from the conception of my child, having an amnio after decreased risk factors at every test, all the way through to the fact that I have consumed cheese, diet soda and cold-cuts throughout my pregnancy.
But without knowing 100% of what happens at each doctor and patient check-up/appointment, without knowing a patient's medical and family history, NONE of us will ever know our rationales for doing what each other does. I do not share everything that happens at each and every appointment or you would all know about my irrational fear of projectile pooping on my doctor's face during delivery and why I plan on warning him to wear a "splash guard" should I deliver vaginally. (OOPS I TOLD YOU but did you REALLY want to know? Didn't think so.)
One can anticipate judgements and they are judgements when they go "against the grain". It is simply what it is. One just has to be prepared for the fall out.
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Re: C-Sections by Choice
Posted by Goldi0218
I shall state my opinion then if it wasn't clear.
It is OPINION that what happens between a doctor and a patient is nobody's business.
When people choose to post about choices here, it becomes fodder for three days (case and point in this thread) and people end up doing what they want anyway. I want to believe in my heart that we are influenced by more than what we read here - rather by the medical excellence of the people we entrust with our lives as well as the first few moments of the lives of our precious children. I am sure that many of my prenatal choices have been scoffed at already. In fact, I know they have. Starting from the conception of my child, having an amnio after decreased risk factors at every test, all the way through to the fact that I have consumed cheese, diet soda and cold-cuts throughout my pregnancy.
But without knowing 100% of what happens at each doctor and patient check-up/appointment, without knowing a patient's medical and family history, NONE of us will ever know our rationales for doing what each other does. I do not share everything that happens at each and every appointment or you would all know about my irrational fear of projectile pooping on my doctor's face during delivery and why I plan on warning him to wear a "splash guard" should I deliver vaginally. (OOPS I TOLD YOU but did you REALLY want to know? Didn't think so.)
One can anticipate judgements and they are judgements when they go "against the grain". It is simply what it is. One just has to be prepared for the fall out.
I always have the most respect for what you write and say and agree with so much of it.
However, in this case I just wanted to offer a differing opinion...
I do not think after reading this thread and the OP's question that this is at all about judgment placed on a woman electing a c-section....this has to do with WHY a doctor would offer one so early on in pregnancy.
If the OP had said "I would like a c-section for my own reasons and my doctor is willing to do it" THEN I think it would be judging if everyone attacked and gave the risks behind it..
BUT i honestly think some good information is warranted in a post like this!! ONLY for the sole purpose of enlightening women to the reasons why a doctor would suggest such an involved procedure on a woman so early in pregnancy with no other complications.
It's a very fair thing to question motives, or to post risks, or to really just wonder "OK well why would they offer it?". It helps people understand and maybe read up on things...and in turn OP can go back to her doctor with new information and ask why she has that option now.
Does that make sense?? I would want to know too...so much of pregnancy is told to you as you go by your doctor and it's natural to not second guess them and just "ok" their words. However, in this case, I feel something isn't quite right with what her doctor suggested...and many others would agree I think. That's all!
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I think the reason that I get so upset about this topic is because my baby was one of those babies that because of my c-section was in NICU for 4 days. And it was the worst 4 days of my life. Why someone would want to take a chance on harming their baby for no reason just seems wrong to me.
Ok you are having a big baby or twins or you have medical reasons but just because, doesn't seem right to me. Sorry.
And what scares me even more that at a 10 week visit, this OB is offering this very invasive and dangerous surgery for no reason. That is even more wrong to me.
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Re: C-Sections by Choice
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Posted by Goldi0218
I shall state my opinion then if it wasn't clear.
It is OPINION that what happens between a doctor and a patient is nobody's business.
When people choose to post about choices here, it becomes fodder for three days (case and point in this thread) and people end up doing what they want anyway. I want to believe in my heart that we are influenced by more than what we read here - rather by the medical excellence of the people we entrust with our lives as well as the first few moments of the lives of our precious children. I am sure that many of my prenatal choices have been scoffed at already. In fact, I know they have. Starting from the conception of my child, having an amnio after decreased risk factors at every test, all the way through to the fact that I have consumed cheese, diet soda and cold-cuts throughout my pregnancy.
But without knowing 100% of what happens at each doctor and patient check-up/appointment, without knowing a patient's medical and family history, NONE of us will ever know our rationales for doing what each other does. I do not share everything that happens at each and every appointment or you would all know about my irrational fear of projectile pooping on my doctor's face during delivery and why I plan on warning him to wear a "splash guard" should I deliver vaginally. (OOPS I TOLD YOU but did you REALLY want to know? Didn't think so.)
One can anticipate judgements and they are judgements when they go "against the grain". It is simply what it is. One just has to be prepared for the fall out.
I always have the most respect for what you write and say and agree with so much of it.
However, in this case I just wanted to offer a differing opinion...
I do not think after reading this thread and the OP's question that this is at all about judgment placed on a woman electing a c-section....this has to do with WHY a doctor would offer one so early on in pregnancy.
If the OP had said "I would like a c-section for my own reasons and my doctor is willing to do it" THEN I think it would be judging if everyone attacked and gave the risks behind it..
BUT i honestly think some good information is warranted in a post like this!! ONLY for the sole purpose of enlightening women to the reasons why a doctor would suggest such an involved procedure on a woman so early in pregnancy with no other complications.
It's a very fair thing to question motives, or to post risks, or to really just wonder "OK well why would they offer it?". It helps people understand and maybe read up on things...and in turn OP can go back to her doctor with new information and ask why she has that option now.
Does that make sense?? I would want to know too...so much of pregnancy is told to you as you go by your doctor and it's natural to not second guess them and just "ok" their words. However, in this case, I feel something isn't quite right with what her doctor suggested...and many others would agree I think. That's all!
It's all good and I appreciate the compliment. And you are right, it was not initially about judgement, but in some posts it had evolved into such.
And for the record, yes, 10 weeks is a bit early to decide on that. I thought I was destined for a c-section for an entirely different reason than my baby being breech. I have scar tissue on my cervix and MAY not dilate, but my OB assured me that it is entirely possible for me to have a vaginal delivery. I may find out in just a half hour at my appointment.
I also question what my doctor presents to me which is exactly why I do not already have a scheduled c-section after it was offered to me and I actually do have a reason (odds of which it will correct itself). I question my OB and I questioned my RE before I got PG based on things I read here and then had to slap myself silly realizing that this community, as helpful as it is, did not know every intimate detail of my reproductive history.
I also have a very hard time with medical jargon and information when it is spewed at me in an appointment in a limited time frame. I am not a clinician nor should I be. Perhaps it is a processing issue I have yet to resolve. This is why I bring DH with me to major appointments as he is clear and invested differently in this pregnancy than I am. He decipher's information that I may or may not undrestand or need clarification on.
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Re: C-Sections by Choice
I think I would love for a dr to tell me about all the options on delivery.
50% of Winthrop delivery are via c-section (per the orientation I had with them last year). I think in this day and age, c-sections have become mainstream.
That does not mean it's an option for everybody and that you want one. But please don't be offended. If it's not for you, say thank you and say it's not for you.
We cannot be offended for everything we don't agree on.
Some people are offended that they would be offered an epidural (several posters in the past!). They want all natural. And it's like the "unimaginable" that someone would offer it. When asked something, you just say "no". No need to be so offended. Everybody does not feel the same way.
I think being offered options is good. In the end, the OP does not have to have a c-section but at least her Dr. is opening the topic for discussion. It's never too early to discuss delivery. It comes in quick.
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