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jprimrose
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Re: C-Sections by Choice

Posted by Princessmaris

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A c-section affects you and your baby. We need to think about the affect on the baby too.



And what effects on baby are you referring too?

I had a c-section, due to some complications in my pregnancy and the fact the Dr had to take DS early. There were no effects on him whatsoever, and other than recovery no effects on me either.

There are always risks for both mom and baby. (Im not even going to go into this, because it will only scare moms to be)

Im not saying I agree or disagree with elective c-sections. But just point out your HUGE generalization.



I also had to have a c-section and I will be having on with this pregnancy. I stated previously that a doctor and patient need to decide what is best for the baby and the mom. There are always risks with major surgery. The link that I posted previously states risks to the baby and the mom Here is the link: http://www.pregnancy-info.net/c-section_complications.html
I really do not understand what huge generalization I am making. If you research c-sections on the internet you will see the risks. Then of course there are times when there are risks with a vaginal birth so then maybe the c-section would be better in your case. I just think it is important that when a person makes a decision to have major surgery they understand all the risks. Actually the posters original intentions were to get our opinions so she could get more informed before she made her decision.

Posted 7/2/08 9:27 AM
 
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Re: C-Sections by Choice

I had a scheduled c-section due to the fact i was having identical twins that had the same placenta and I started having issues with TTTS at the end of my pregnancy. That being said, my recovery from my c-section was really a breeze for me and I really think that has to do with the fact that i was not in labor for hours before that happened.

There are so many reasons out there why a woman and baby need a scheduled c-section so I have no issue with doctors giving those woman the choice.

However, with all this being said, I don't think doctors should offer it up to someone who is at the beginning of their pregnancy and has no issues. I find that odd.

Posted 7/2/08 9:31 AM
 

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Re: C-Sections by Choice

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Posted by Princessmaris

Posted by jprimrose

A c-section affects you and your baby. We need to think about the affect on the baby too.



And what effects on baby are you referring too?

I had a c-section, due to some complications in my pregnancy and the fact the Dr had to take DS early. There were no effects on him whatsoever, and other than recovery no effects on me either.

There are always risks for both mom and baby. (Im not even going to go into this, because it will only scare moms to be)

Im not saying I agree or disagree with elective c-sections. But just point out your HUGE generalization.



From what i've read, babies usually fare pretty well during a c-section! Like I wrote above, there is a always the risk of minor respiratory issues but they go away within a few days. There are risks for vaginal births as well. I don't think anyone would elect to have a c section if they thought they had a higher chance of harming their baby!



Im not debating that there are risks- they are risks BOTH WAYS...

But the OP did not state "you and your baby CAN be affected" rather that they ARE affected, and that is not true.

As I stated before neither DS or I were effected.




I was actually responding to the post comparing plastic surgery to having a c-section. What I was saying is that when you choose elective plastic surgery you are the only one involved. When you choose to have a c-section you and your baby are involved. So yes two instead of one person will be affected with a c-section.

Posted 7/2/08 9:34 AM
 

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Re: C-Sections by Choice

Posted by jprimrose

Posted by Princessmaris

Posted by maybebaby

Posted by Princessmaris

Posted by jprimrose

A c-section affects you and your baby. We need to think about the affect on the baby too.



And what effects on baby are you referring too?

I had a c-section, due to some complications in my pregnancy and the fact the Dr had to take DS early. There were no effects on him whatsoever, and other than recovery no effects on me either.

There are always risks for both mom and baby. (Im not even going to go into this, because it will only scare moms to be)

Im not saying I agree or disagree with elective c-sections. But just point out your HUGE generalization.



From what i've read, babies usually fare pretty well during a c-section! Like I wrote above, there is a always the risk of minor respiratory issues but they go away within a few days. There are risks for vaginal births as well. I don't think anyone would elect to have a c section if they thought they had a higher chance of harming their baby!



Im not debating that there are risks- they are risks BOTH WAYS...

But the OP did not state "you and your baby CAN be affected" rather that they ARE affected, and that is not true.

As I stated before neither DS or I were effected.




I was actually responding to the post comparing plastic surgery to having a c-section. What I was saying is that when you choose elective plastic surgery you are the only one involved. When you choose to have a c-section you and your baby are involved. So yes two instead of one person will be affected with a c-section.



CAN BE effected.

That was the point I was making...

Either way when birthing a child, both mom and baby are "effected"

Maybe I misread your post- but the way I understood it was that you were saying that having a c-section you and baby are both experiencing negative effects... and c-sections do not result in "effecting" mom and baby anymore than a vaginal delivery.

Message edited 7/2/2008 9:43:03 AM.

Posted 7/2/08 9:40 AM
 

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Re: C-Sections by Choice

i really do NOT see the analogy of elective c-section and plastic surgery

sorry -

Message edited 7/2/2008 9:42:40 AM.

Posted 7/2/08 9:42 AM
 

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Re: C-Sections by Choice

Posted by snowflake08

i really do NOT see the analogy of elective c-section and plastic surgery

sorry -



How do you compare c sections and plastic surgery haaaaaaaaChat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon

Posted 7/2/08 9:44 AM
 

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Re: C-Sections by Choice

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Posted by snowflake08

i really do NOT see the analogy of elective c-section and plastic surgery

sorry -



How do you compare c sections and plastic surgery haaaaaaaaChat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon

i really dont know!

Posted 7/2/08 9:46 AM
 

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Re: C-Sections by Choice

Posted by snowflake08

i really do NOT see the analogy of elective c-section and plastic surgery

sorry -



I believe the original poster made the point that like cosmetic surgery, a c-section v. vaginal birth should be a choice that an informed adult should be allowed to make.

I do think perhaps the reason a woman would elect to have a c-section for no true "medical" reason is to preserve the "area" lol, and after all...isn't that cosmetic really?!

For me, I had 2 c-sections; one was unplanned and one was scheduled (even though I desired a VBAC) and I would NEVER opt for surgery without a medical reason. However...the pro for me...my vagina is exactly the same as it always was Chat Icon Chat Icon besides that and the health of my DDs...everything else was a con for me.

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Posted 7/2/08 9:50 AM
 

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Re: C-Sections by Choice

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Posted by Theresa05

Posted by snowflake08

i really do NOT see the analogy of elective c-section and plastic surgery

sorry -



How do you compare c sections and plastic surgery haaaaaaaaChat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon

i really dont know!




if I didn"t HAVE to medically I would NEVER want a C.. Recovery, Scar ect.. THAT IS MEEEEEEEEE..

But I have had plastic surgery and I don't think you can compare the 2..


the V birth is NOT BAD!
I did it in 6 pushes..

Posted 7/2/08 9:53 AM
 

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Re: C-Sections by Choice

This topic can be debated forever because EVERONE IS DIFFERENT! Some people have a horrible experience with vaginal births and some with c-sections. My c/s wasn't horrible at all, my scar is pretty nonexistant, and my baby came out perfect. I don't think it is fair to judge or try to scare people with the horrors of a c-section when there are horrors to a vaginal brith also.

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Posted 7/2/08 10:00 AM
 

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Re: C-Sections by Choice

I think we are all getting away from the original topic. This isn't about someone who is being given the choice due to extenuating circumstances. This thread is about the OP being offered the choice of a c/s when she is 10 WEEKS PREGNANT!!!!!

Posted 7/2/08 10:21 AM
 

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Re: C-Sections by Choice

Posted by snowflake08

Posted by Theresa05

Posted by snowflake08

i really do NOT see the analogy of elective c-section and plastic surgery

sorry -



How do you compare c sections and plastic surgery haaaaaaaaChat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon

i really dont know!



The analogy is: Both are surgery by choice (in case of elective c-section). Where surgery exists, risks exist. If you elect one or the other (cosmetic surgery or c-section by total election), risks exist. That's how you compare. Adults making choices, hopefully educated choices, to have a surgery.

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Posted 7/2/08 10:27 AM
 

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Re: C-Sections by Choice

I find these debtaes so funny. Who is judging? People are trying to EDUCATE. There are people that do LOTS of research and people that don't. There are people that follow everything their Dr's say and people that question. I don't think anyone is being judged. The truth is being written here. C-sections, in gerenral, carry more risks that v-birth. That is a fact.

That doesn't mean that if I was advised during my birthing experience that c-section was best for my babies I wouldn't do it. However, I will try for a v-birth and I felt reassured that my Dr was not pushing me for a c-section at 14 weeks when we discussed it. If you do things differently or feel that a c-section was good for you or easy to recover AWESOME! More power to you!

Posted 7/2/08 10:29 AM
 

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Posted by niikki-8-18-06

This topic can be debated forever because EVERONE IS DIFFERENT! Some people have a horrible experience with vaginal births and some with c-sections. My c/s wasn't horrible at all, my scar is pretty nonexistant, and my baby came out perfect. I don't think it is fair to judge or try to scare people with the horrors of a c-section when there are horrors to a vaginal brith also.





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Posted 7/2/08 10:30 AM
 

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Re: C-Sections by Choice

Posted by snowflake08

this is like religion and politics; some topics are not to be discussed with others

you will NEVER change people's minds so why discuss?



I disagree...being newly pregnant, I like to get the opinions of others who have gone through these experiences before...I find it very informative and am glad to get opinions, information and actual stories from both sides. Everyone should be as informed as possible before giving birth and educated on their options.

Posted 7/2/08 10:47 AM
 

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Re: C-Sections by Choice

Posted by melijane

I find these debtaes so funny. Who is judging? People are trying to EDUCATE. There are people that do LOTS of research and people that don't. There are people that follow everything their Dr's say and people that question. I don't think anyone is being judged. The truth is being written here. C-sections, in gerenral, carry more risks that v-birth. That is a fact.

That doesn't mean that if I was advised during my birthing experience that c-section was best for my babies I wouldn't do it. However, I will try for a v-birth and I felt reassured that my Dr was not pushing me for a c-section at 14 weeks when we discussed it. If you do things differently or feel that a c-section was good for you or easy to recover AWESOME! More power to you!



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Posted 7/2/08 10:51 AM
 

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Re: C-Sections by Choice

My dr. hasn't even discussed the Level II yet, let alone my giving birth! If he were to give me the option, I would elect for a v-birth only because I am afraid of having my abdominals cut open. And I figure if I am able to give birth vaginally, I don't see a reason not to. I don't really think it is a big deal if a woman wants to schedule her c-section, just not for me.

Posted 7/2/08 11:13 AM
 

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I had an emergency C section with my son. If I had the choice to have a C section v. giving birth vaginally, I would never choose the C section..

Although my recovery was normal, it was painful at times.. With a newborn baby, I wish I was more on my feet earlier. If that makes sense.

Personally, I think too many doctors push for the C Section because they make a heck of a lot more money than a vaginal birth, but that's just my opinion..

btw, the BEST was that they gave me percoset in the hospital but when I was leaving told me to take tylenol for the pain... I was BFing so I understood...

OH MAN... the pain I felt when the last percoset wore off and the tylenol didn't quite cut it....

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Posted 7/2/08 11:28 AM
 

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Re: C-Sections by Choice

Posted by maybebaby

I need to comment on one thing...someone posted that there is less trauma for baby through a c-section (no squeezing out the birth canal) HOWEVER..

There is a huge purpose to this, and it actually is not tramautic. While the baby is being squeezed out the birth canal, it actually helps compress amniotic fluid out of the babies lungs. Its a good thing. A lot of c-section babies have a rattling and mucousy chest b/c they didn't go through that. I'm not saying its dangerous, but very very common with c-section babies. So there really is a purpose to it!!




I was going to bring this up. My girlfriend had a scheduled c-section after being a week late and because her baby was large. Her baby aspirated merconium and it is only by the grace of God that her little girl is perfectly healthy today. My girlfriend told me that if she had been able to have a vaginal birth it might not have been so bad for her DD because the birthing process might have cleared her lungs and spared her a trip to the NICU.

That issue aside, our babies were exactly the same size at birth - 9lbs 2oz - and we probably suffered just as much pain but I healed a lot faster from my v-birth than she did from her section.

It is a personal decision and there are many reasons to go either way, but I'm a little disturbed by a doctor who offers a c-section at only 10 weeks because at this point there is no medical necessity.

Posted 7/2/08 11:35 AM
 

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I had an emergency C section with my son. If I had the choice to have a C section v. giving birth vaginally, I would never choose the C section..

Although my recovery was normal, it was painful at times.. With a newborn baby, I wish I was more on my feet earlier. If that makes sense.

Personally, I think too many doctors push for the C Section because they make a heck of a lot more money than a vaginal birth, but that's just my opinion..



I just talked to a good friend about this topic and asked her opinion. She works with a bunch of doctors, especially OB/GYN's and they have told her flat out that they prefer c-sections in many cases and push them because today doctors are so scared of being sued. It's the truth.

I don't think anyone on these boards is trying to change someones mind about which is better....there is no right answer when it comes to having your baby!!!

The original discussion was about a doctor giving the option of a c-section to someone who is only 10 weeks. That's all. And to me, there is something wrong with that. There is NOTHING wrong with a c-section. And plenty of women loved their experience and recovery...but it shouldn't be offered so quickly without reasons...and women need to completely educate themselves about c-sections before electing to have one. It's so so important!!!

Posted 7/2/08 11:37 AM
 

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Re: C-Sections by Choice

Posted by newwife08

Posted by snowflake08

this is like religion and politics; some topics are not to be discussed with others

you will NEVER change people's minds so why discuss?



I disagree...being newly pregnant, I like to get the opinions of others who have gone through these experiences before...I find it very informative and am glad to get opinions, information and actual stories from both sides. Everyone should be as informed as possible before giving birth and educated on their options.

yes, i agree
but NOT when it turns into a DEBATE and people JUDGING one another

Posted 7/2/08 11:37 AM
 

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and NO ONE is saying that there are not times when , sure, a c/s is NECESSARY - that is not what anyone is DEBATING

people were disturbed by someone asking or being asked at 2 months if they would LIKE ONE

i think that is a huge difference

Posted 7/2/08 11:40 AM
 

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Re: C-Sections by Choice

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Posted by namechange

I had an emergency C section with my son. If I had the choice to have a C section v. giving birth vaginally, I would never choose the C section..

Although my recovery was normal, it was painful at times.. With a newborn baby, I wish I was more on my feet earlier. If that makes sense.

Personally, I think too many doctors push for the C Section because they make a heck of a lot more money than a vaginal birth, but that's just my opinion..



I just talked to a good friend about this topic and asked her opinion. She works with a bunch of doctors, especially OB/GYN's and they have told her flat out that they prefer c-sections in many cases and push them because today doctors are so scared of being sued. It's the truth.



that makes sense... I should have added "I know I'm probably way off, but that was always my opinion"

With my *opinion* omitted I'm only offering my experience to the OP as someone who had to have a C section.

Posted 7/2/08 11:46 AM
 

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Re: C-Sections by Choice

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Posted by maybebaby

Posted by namechange

I had an emergency C section with my son. If I had the choice to have a C section v. giving birth vaginally, I would never choose the C section..

Although my recovery was normal, it was painful at times.. With a newborn baby, I wish I was more on my feet earlier. If that makes sense.

Personally, I think too many doctors push for the C Section because they make a heck of a lot more money than a vaginal birth, but that's just my opinion..



I just talked to a good friend about this topic and asked her opinion. She works with a bunch of doctors, especially OB/GYN's and they have told her flat out that they prefer c-sections in many cases and push them because today doctors are so scared of being sued. It's the truth.



that makes sense... I should have added "I know I'm probably way off, but that was always my opinion"

With my *opinion* omitted I'm only offering my experience to the OP as someone who had to have a C section.



I think it's a combination of all these things. Doctors fear litigation. I've seen the phrase "the only C-section you get sued for is the one don't perform" a lot in my research on this topic.

But I also think the convenience factor is huge. It makes it a lot easier on the doctor to be able to block off his time and know exactly when he has to be in the hospital and how long he'll be there -- you will never get that kind of certainty with a vaginal birth.

And yes, the $$ is there -- doctors get paid a lot more for a C-section. I really feel that any doctor who is talking C-section at this point is more concerned about the latter two things, though.

I would run, not walk from this doctor. Sounds like he is scalpel happy and will come up for a reason to take you the OR whether or not you need it.

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Posted 7/2/08 12:11 PM
 

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Re: C-Sections by Choice

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Posted by newwife08

Posted by snowflake08

this is like religion and politics; some topics are not to be discussed with others

you will NEVER change people's minds so why discuss?



I disagree...being newly pregnant, I like to get the opinions of others who have gone through these experiences before...I find it very informative and am glad to get opinions, information and actual stories from both sides. Everyone should be as informed as possible before giving birth and educated on their options.

yes, i agree
but NOT when it turns into a DEBATE and people JUDGING one another



I with you on this..no judgingChat Icon , but I love the info...

Posted 7/2/08 12:35 PM
 
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