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hotsauce345
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Re: yet another reason why i feel screwed this election year
Posted by MrsMeloyellow
i get it...I think it was posed in a bit of a dramatic way with the whole hiding in the attic bit...however. I think it's so unfair that people attribute voting for romney to being a holocaust enabler or ss gestapo. people are entitled to their opinions about what will be best for their family and their immediate needs and situation...I think the quote is a wy of saying "your opinion is wrong and I'm right" and it's really unfair. you can't lump people into a category compared to nzi's because they don't vote the same way you do. I will support LGBT rights regardless of what president wins and if that means marching at the white house or anywhere else I'll do it...but it DOES NOT mean I HAVE TO vote for obama.
is anyone going to take in and feed the families of those that lose their homes if they continue down the same economic path?
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Re: yet another reason why i feel screwed this election year
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Posted by MrsMeloyellow
i get it...I think it was posed in a bit of a dramatic way with the whole hiding in the attic bit...however. I think it's so unfair that people attribute voting for romney to being a holocaust enabler or ss gestapo. people are entitled to their opinions about what will be best for their family and their immediate needs and situation...I think the quote is a wy of saying "your opinion is wrong and I'm right" and it's really unfair. you can't lump people into a category compared to nzi's because they don't vote the same way you do. I will support LGBT rights regardless of what president wins and if that means marching at the white house or anywhere else I'll do it...but it DOES NOT mean I HAVE TO vote for obama.
is anyone going to take in and feed the families of those that lose their homes if they continue down the same economic path?
I really don't think anyone was trying to call Romney a holocaust enabler or a nazi...but maybe we are just reading it differently.
But, to your last part...so, do you think "anyone is going to take in and feed the families of those that lose their homes" if Romney is elected and it doesn't improve like he swears it will? If I thought he had a magic wand that would really and truly solve all of our economic problems, in spite of the fact that I think his social policies are horrible, I would probably vote for him. But the truth is, to me, it seems his polices will not only not fix anything, but I fear they might make it even worse.
Our family is actually in a better position than we were 4 years ago...or 8 years ago. We have worked hard, and we have been lucky so I wouldn't say it's necessarily just the Obama administrations policies that made it that way.. But people screaming that Obama is THE REASON they are in trouble, well, I just don't think that's true. But, as everyone else has theirs, that is just my opinion.
I am sorry you feel so conflicted with this. I can understand. And I hope that whatever happens, things do improve for everyone. I wish someone did have a magic wand. 
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hotsauce345
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Re: yet another reason why i feel screwed this election year
Posted by oneday
Posted by MrsMeloyellow
Posted by MrsMeloyellow
i get it...I think it was posed in a bit of a dramatic way with the whole hiding in the attic bit...however. I think it's so unfair that people attribute voting for romney to being a holocaust enabler or ss gestapo. people are entitled to their opinions about what will be best for their family and their immediate needs and situation...I think the quote is a wy of saying "your opinion is wrong and I'm right" and it's really unfair. you can't lump people into a category compared to nzi's because they don't vote the same way you do. I will support LGBT rights regardless of what president wins and if that means marching at the white house or anywhere else I'll do it...but it DOES NOT mean I HAVE TO vote for obama.
is anyone going to take in and feed the families of those that lose their homes if they continue down the same economic path?
I really don't think anyone was trying to call Romney a holocaust enabler or a nazi...but maybe we are just reading it differently.
But, to your last part...so, do you think "anyone is going to take in and feed the families of those that lose their homes" if Romney is elected and it doesn't improve like he swears it will? If I thought he had a magic wand that would really and truly solve all of our economic problems, in spite of the fact that I think his social policies are horrible, I would probably vote for him. But the truth is, to me, it seems his polices will not only not fix anything, but I fear they might make it even worse.
Our family is actually in a better position than we were 4 years ago...or 8 years ago. We have worked hard, and we have been lucky so I wouldn't say it's necessarily just the Obama administrations policies that made it that way.. But people screaming that Obama is THE REASON they are in trouble, well, I just don't think that's true. But, as everyone else has theirs, that is just my opinion.
I am sorry you feel so conflicted with this. I can understand. And I hope that whatever happens, things do improve for everyone. I wish someone did have a magic wand.
well when 2500 out of 4000 workers are out of work...I don't think you can say they just aren't working hard enough or trying. Sorry...but getting a job at mcdonalds just isn't the same. Construction and trade jobs have been hard to come by these past 4 years. I think you're very lucky to be better off now than 4 years ago...but there aren't many people I know who can say the same...for themselves and also for their businesses. I def don't think he has a magic wand. I just think obama could do better.
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ElizaRags35
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yet another reason why i feel screwed this election year
IMO what we need to keep this economy moving in the right direction is a congress that will pass the jobs bill and the veterans job bill. Not a congress that will filibuster until it dies.
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hotsauce345
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Re: yet another reason why i feel screwed this election year
it's true...it's not really all about obama...congress has a big part as well and they don't take as much of the heat because Obama is at the forefront as president.
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Re: yet another reason why i feel screwed this election year
Oh, so it's better to leave a baby with crack addict birth parents than a loving couple who happens to be gay? Ok.
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Re: yet another reason why i feel screwed this election year
Romney will say he's going to help the economy because he's running for president and he knows that's what people want to hear. He can't mask his bigotry with all of his political promises. He clearly has a religious agenda. I will bet you he is one of those intelligent design/young earth believers as well. This man is terrifying. His ignorance and hatred for people in the country that he should be standing for and taking care of is terrifying. I don't think it's far off the mark to compare this to what people used to believe another interracial marriages (which were once against the law), and to referring to Jews as not worthy of basic human rights. Maybe gays aren't being literally put in camps or ghettoes but segregation is segregation. Children, partners, siblings, and everyone else in a gay person's life suffers as a result of this man's belief system. His PERSONAL beliefs are irrelevant to his presidency. His RELIGIOUS beliefs do not belong in a country that emphasizes seperation if church and state. These beliefs are being thrown around while he is supposed to be showing his BEST side to the public. If he gets elected, the side that he will unleash terrifies me.
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Re: yet another reason why i feel screwed this election year
Posted by oneday
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But, to your last part...so, do you think "anyone is going to take in and feed the families of those that lose their homes" if Romney is elected and it doesn't improve like he swears it will? If I thought he had a magic wand that would really and truly solve all of our economic problems, in spite of the fact that I think his social policies are horrible, I would probably vote for him. But the truth is, to me, it seems his polices will not only not fix anything, but I fear they might make it even worse.
Our family is actually in a better position than we were 4 years ago...or 8 years ago. We have worked hard, and we have been lucky so I wouldn't say it's necessarily just the Obama administrations policies that made it that way.. But people screaming that Obama is THE REASON they are in trouble, well, I just don't think that's true. But, as everyone else has theirs, that is just my opinion.
I am sorry you feel so conflicted with this. I can understand. And I hope that whatever happens, things do improve for everyone. I wish someone did have a magic wand.
I feel the same way. I feel that Obama's solutions will slowly bring all of the middle class out of this world-wide recession. I also feel that Romney's plans will reenable all of the horrible policies that Bush had in place that brought us to this point. I honestly believe that Romney's plans (the few that he actually bothered mentioning) will help the upper class, and further harm the middle and lower class. I can't vote for someone who will marginalize a group of people, AND make economic policies that will harm me, my family, and pretty much everyone I know.
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jteach
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yet another reason why i feel screwed this election year
We are screwed either way lol
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Pumpkin1
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Re: yet another reason why i feel screwed this election year
Melody: thank you for starting this post and for sharing your personal history with us. It sounds like you grew up surrounded by loving and tolerant people, and that you are continuing that tradition with your own son.
I have read most of these political threads and I think this post here is the most personal because people are expressing their internal conflicts with the candidates. I don't think either candidate is perfect, but I also don't think either is the devil. I hate that people paint pictures of these candidates as people who don't care about this country. IMO, a person doesn't seek the highest office in this country unless they truly care about its people. The candidates have very divergent views of how to run this country, but I don't think it would kill either one of them to find some common ground (there has to be something they agree on!!!)
For me, social issues trump the economy but I also have that luxury because, while we are not in a better position now, we both still have jobs and are keeping our heads above water, but we are not getting ahead at all.
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Re: yet another reason why i feel screwed this election year
Posted by MrsMeloyellow
it's true...it's not really all about obama...congress has a big part as well and they don't take as much of the heat because Obama is at the forefront as president.
DING DING DING! If McCain won the Presidency in 2008 we would be in the same position we are in now.
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Re: yet another reason why i feel screwed this election year
Posted by LittleBlueBug
May I ask what fields all this growth is occuring in? Why is the number of people unemployed or underemployed rising not falling? No one expected a miracle from anybody, but sure didnt expect it to be worse.
I must be hanging with the wrong bunch but I honestly only know of one person out of all friends, family, and aquaintences who is doing better now and she was coming from a very low point in her life.
And see, I am the opposite. Most of our friends and families (including us) are doing much better than 4 years ago.
Posted by LittleBlueBug
Not trying to start drama by any means. I understand the anaology, but have to say am a little put off at the comparrison of nazi's and the movement in the 60's to this. In those times people were killed and tortured. I get the analogy, but its not the same. Comparing a holocaust to marriage rights just baffles me.
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Re: yet another reason why i feel screwed this election year
Comparing marriage rights to the Holocaust is OUTRAGEOUS!
Six Million people (including most of my fathers family) were annihilated! Romney is against gays getting married- NOT killing them in a systematic genocide! SERIOUSLY??? Does any Obama supporter really believe that if Romney were elected he would become the next Hitler?
I am FOR gay marriage and FOR abortion chocies. However, I am TERRIFIED of the lack of jobs out there and how my husband's company is downsizing. I believe that Romney is the right choice for the economy and that is my biggest concern for MY three children right now. I also have many family members in Israel and I believe Romney is better for their safety.
Do I like where he stands on gay marriage, NO. But to say that I am like the people in Nazi Germany who turned a blind eye when their neighbors were being shipped off in cattle cars to the ovens is INSULTING and CRAZY. Again, I would think everyone can agree that Romney is against their marriage-and he is not trying to kill them.
ETA: i believe that the above video shows the names of victims killed for horrible bigoted hate crimes. That is not the same as government sponsored genocide.
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