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Daveswife
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Would this bother you( nursery school related)
DD just started nusery/daycare type school. They watch videos twice a day,and they don't really have a set curriculum that they follow. The teachers don't have any certifications or degrees, but they seem to be very loving. I guess what bothers me most is the fact that they watch television. Is that a big no no or is it not a big deal? I'm curious to know what the deal breakers are when looking for a preschool/ daycare for your child.
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Re: Would this bother you( nursery school related)
I would be upset that they watched videos during nursery school for a child under 3. I could see special situations where for older children they would have a "movie" day - but only for special occasions.
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Re: Would this bother you( nursery school related)
One of the daycares I looked at for DD had videos 2x per day as part of their curriculm, and that was the second reason I didn't select it.
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| Posted 9/28/09 11:51 PM |
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monkeybride
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Re: Would this bother you( nursery school related)
Just about everything you wrote would bother me.
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| Posted 9/28/09 11:56 PM |
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Re: Would this bother you( nursery school related)
The school that I pulled DS out of for other reasons did a TV/video time. He does not watch much TV at home so I was somewhat okay with him seeing some at school. What I did not like was that the TV was on a cart that they wheeled into the room for movie time. It was like the old AV carts from High School, for those of us who remember that. It was an older style, very heavy TV. I felt that the TV possibly falling was a hazard. This was not why we left that center but it was a concern of mine. Now I would prefer a place that does not use TVs at all.
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| Posted 9/29/09 12:00 AM |
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Hofstra26
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Re: Would this bother you( nursery school related)
Just as an FYI speaking as a certified teacher and someone who also worked in day care centers prior to becoming a teacher...............almost all "teachers" at a day care center (even one that has a "preschool") are NOT certified teachers with a teaching degree. In fact, all that is usually required to work as a "teacher" in a day care center is a 30hr. certificate. Also, speaking from experience.........there is no curriculum. They are not real teachers who are doing lesson plans and teaching your kids. The "curriculum" we had when I was in day care was basically a box of activity cards with a theme for each month. It was lame and useless. Real, certified teachers (such as myself) would not work in a day care setting or a preschool UNLESS it was a preschool through a public school district because they don't pay much more than minimum wage which is a far cry from a real teacher salary in a public school system.
I know there are decent day care centers out there but really...........it's basically overpriced babysitting. It's not an education in the true sense of the word. Before anyone flames..........it's NOT to say kids don't learn something, of course they do, but understand you're not getting curriculum and teaching like a child receives once they are in a real school setting with real certified elementary school teachers.
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monkeybride
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Re: Would this bother you( nursery school related)
Posted by Hofstra26
Just as an FYI speaking as a certified teacher and someone who also worked in day care centers prior to becoming a teacher...............almost all "teachers" at a day care center (even one that has a "preschool") are NOT certified teachers with a teaching degree. In fact, all that is usually required to work as a "teacher" in a day care center is a 30hr. certificate. Also, speaking from experience.........there is no curriculum. They are not real teachers who are doing lesson plans and teaching your kids. The "curriculum" we had when I was in day care was basically a box of activity cards with a theme for each month. It was lame and useless. Real, certified teachers (such as myself) would not work in a day care setting or a preschool UNLESS it was a preschool through a public school district because they don't pay much more than minimum wage which is a far cry from a real teacher salary in a public school system.
I know there are decent day care centers out there but really...........it's basically overpriced babysitting. It's not an education in the true sense of the word. Before anyone flames..........it's NOT to say kids don't learn something, of course they do, but understand you're not getting curriculum and teaching like a child receives once they are in a real school setting with real certified elementary school teachers.
I don't group daycare and preschool in the same category though.
If I am paying for preschool I expect teachers. My DD goes to a Montessori school. I believe all but one of her teachers have masters in early education in addition to their Montessori certification. They make it clear they are a school and not a daycare.
IMO daycare and preschool are not one in the same.
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monkeybride
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Re: Would this bother you( nursery school related)
I just reread the OP. I missed the "daycare/preschool" part.
How old is your DD? Are you sending her there for daycare or for preschool?
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| Posted 9/29/09 12:13 AM |
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Hofstra26
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Re: Would this bother you( nursery school related)
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Posted by Hofstra26
Just as an FYI speaking as a certified teacher and someone who also worked in day care centers prior to becoming a teacher...............almost all "teachers" at a day care center (even one that has a "preschool") are NOT certified teachers with a teaching degree. In fact, all that is usually required to work as a "teacher" in a day care center is a 30hr. certificate. Also, speaking from experience.........there is no curriculum. They are not real teachers who are doing lesson plans and teaching your kids. The "curriculum" we had when I was in day care was basically a box of activity cards with a theme for each month. It was lame and useless. Real, certified teachers (such as myself) would not work in a day care setting or a preschool UNLESS it was a preschool through a public school district because they don't pay much more than minimum wage which is a far cry from a real teacher salary in a public school system.
I know there are decent day care centers out there but really...........it's basically overpriced babysitting. It's not an education in the true sense of the word. Before anyone flames..........it's NOT to say kids don't learn something, of course they do, but understand you're not getting curriculum and teaching like a child receives once they are in a real school setting with real certified elementary school teachers.
I don't group daycare and preschool in the same category though.
If I am paying for preschool I expect teachers. My DD goes to a Montessori school. I believe all but one of her teachers have masters in early education in addition to their Montessori certification. They make it clear they are a school and not a daycare.
IMO daycare and preschool are not one in the same.
They are the same ONLY if the preschool is part of the day care center. The 2 day cares I worked in were 6 weeks to Pre-K. They actually called themselves a Preschool for ages 3-5 and there was not a single certified teacher for that age group. I agree, some Montessori schools have teachers but not all. Again, speaking as a teacher with a Masters degree I wouldn't take a job in a preschool, even a Montessori school, because quite simply..........they don't pay. They don't pay ANYWHERE near what I get paid in the public school system. That's why you will be hard pressed to find certified teachers in a day care or preschool setting............no $$$$ in it.
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Re: Would this bother you( nursery school related)
In order to stay competitive a lot of daycares do offer nursery school types of curriculum. It's something that parents can ask about as they look at centers. I do know some certified teachers who work in daycare centers specifically to be in the same building with their own children or because they like working with younger children. I recently met one who is doing it so that she learns the ropes to eventually run a center for herself.
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| Posted 9/29/09 12:23 AM |
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Re: Would this bother you( nursery school related)
I would not allow my child to go to a daycare that allows that much television watching. I am not paying that much money so my kid could watch tv. I worked in one that had tv watching and the whole situation was bad. Its not Precous Kids, is it?
ETA that daycare programs are rarely like school progams unless they are licensed by NYS Bof Ed. Teachers are not certified in daycares. I have been on the inside of a lot of programs, and generally they are nothing alike.
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Re: Would this bother you( nursery school related)
My 3 year old goes to nursery school and has a set schedule and curriculum. There is no TV and they set goals for the children to accomplish.
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Re: Would this bother you( nursery school related)
Yes it would bother me. In my opinion, the only reason why the TV goes on is to substitute an activity because of bad weather. Even then they can do a kids for yoga video.
etd to answer your question:
Yes that would be a deal breaker for me. My kids have been in three daycares. They all had curriculums, circle times, crafts, numbers, etc - and even a "free time" where they had centers to go to (kitchen, library, computer, arts).
On a rainy day, they may have "movie day" but that was very, very infrequently. Even when they taught the kids yoga, the teachers did it.
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Re: Would this bother you( nursery school related)
I say no way, they should be following a set criteria and a set schedule for the kids. Loving is great, but kids imo need consistancy. A video is not childcare imo, unless its me putting a video on (kwim?)
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Re: Would this bother you( nursery school related)
Posted by monkeybride
Just about everything you wrote would bother me.
same here. I would want a teacher with certification. no tv. a curriculum of some sort. etc
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| Posted 9/29/09 7:35 AM |
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Re: Would this bother you( nursery school related)
I wouldn't continue my kids in that school. The is my dd's 3rd year at her pre-school and she's never watched any tv or videos there.
While it's not state mandated, they have a curriculum they follow and are known for being education-focused. All of the teachers have degrees in early education. The assistant teachers do not, they are often parents who were looking for a part time job but since they are mainly taking kids back and forth to the bathroom all day that wasn't a big deal to me. My son's first year there was last year, he turned 3 over the summer and can already write his name.
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kahlua716
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Re: Would this bother you( nursery school related)
I wouldn't send my child to a daycare- nursery school that had television as part of their daily schedule.
I worked in a Montessori daycare (in the toddler class- 18months-3yrs) where the only time they were allowed to watch videos (and they were restricted to "real life" videos- like animals and stuff, no cartoons) was when there was a snowstorm and they couldn't go outside and play- AND all of the indoor play areas were full.
I worked there for 2 years and we watched half an hour of a video one time.
We had set curriculums- even for the infants. They had goals to reach and everything we did served a purpose.
ETA: I do not have a teachers certification- but I do have a BS in psychology with a strong focus on Early childhood intervention  I wasn't a lead teacher though- just an assistant.
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Bxgell2
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Re: Would this bother you( nursery school related)
Whoa. That wouldn't fly with me at all. I was really impressed with the infant center at our school because they have a strict policy against bouncy seats, swings and TV's. The director told me that her philosophy is that if a baby is awake, he/she should be on the floor playing with the other babies and teachers, and whenever I stopped by for a random visit, the teachers were always right on the floor playing with the babies.
So, yes, I would be upset. TV shouldn't be a surrogate babysitter.
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Re: Would this bother you( nursery school related)
Posted by Moehick
My 3 year old goes to nursery school and has a set schedule and curriculum. There is no TV and they set goals for the children to accomplish.
Same here...I do know they do bring in a tv once in a while and what I mean by once in a while...when it is a holiday - like Valentines day and they are having a little party for the holiday the tv will be on with a video of that specific holiday....I don't even know if it is every holiday - but do know that they did it on valentines day last year...cause that is the day we checked out the school for my DD.
But I also know that this school has a set curriculum for the class each and every day, even on rainy days...
eta....When I checked out schools for my DD, one of the things that I MADE SURE OF was that they had set a curriculum, cause that is exactly what I wanted out of the school for my DD
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Re: Would this bother you( nursery school related)
Posted by monkeybride
Just about everything you wrote would bother me.
I agree-it doesn't sound like there is any substance to this program.
You can be loving and watch videos at home-you don't need a daycare or nursery school program to do that.
If you are just looking for babysitting, that is one thing, but if you are looking for a program with some learning opportunities I would look elsewhere.
ETA: In response to the statement that daycare isn't educational:
In our program-which is a daycare and a nursery school (the daycare program mirrors the preschool program, it's just a longer day, there is a set curriculum. They do have lesson plans (I get a copy every week) and the "teachers" are certified and have an early education degree (mostly associates degree, but it's preschool after all, not college).
The center is going for a 5 star rating (they are currently a 4 star) and all these things are helping them get there.
I don't think it is the same education that DD will get when she is in kindergarten, but she's only 2 and it's a good foundation and she is learning a lot. I wouldn't dismiss the benefits of a good program.
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Yes, I would be upset. They can watch TV at home. I don't see the benefit of it in a preschool setting at all.
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| Posted 9/29/09 12:22 PM |
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Re: Would this bother you( nursery school related)
The Daycare/nursery/preschool that we use accepts children ages 2-5. They do have a TV in their main room and it is on at drop off times 7:30-8:30 and at pick up time from 5-6:00. The kids are free to play and read at that time as well
I really dont have any issue with it since I am happy with the care they get and I am impressed with how much they learn there.
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| Posted 9/29/09 1:14 PM |
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Re: Would this bother you( nursery school related)
Is this program calling itself "nursery school" or daycare?
IMO, a school should have a set curriculum, certified teachers, and a definate routine for the school day.
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Re: Would this bother you( nursery school related)
That would be a deal breaker for me. I don't need a school to make DS watch TV. That's what you can do at home.
I am not against the TV but I think it's not necessary in a daycare/nursery.
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Re: Would this bother you( nursery school related)
Posted by Hofstra26
Just as an FYI speaking as a certified teacher and someone who also worked in day care centers prior to becoming a teacher...............almost all "teachers" at a day care center (even one that has a "preschool") are NOT certified teachers with a teaching degree. In fact, all that is usually required to work as a "teacher" in a day care center is a 30hr. certificate. Also, speaking from experience.........there is no curriculum. They are not real teachers who are doing lesson plans and teaching your kids. The "curriculum" we had when I was in day care was basically a box of activity cards with a theme for each month. It was lame and useless. Real, certified teachers (such as myself) would not work in a day care setting or a preschool UNLESS it was a preschool through a public school district because they don't pay much more than minimum wage which is a far cry from a real teacher salary in a public school system.
I know there are decent day care centers out there but really...........it's basically overpriced babysitting. It's not an education in the true sense of the word. Before anyone flames..........it's NOT to say kids don't learn something, of course they do, but understand you're not getting curriculum and teaching like a child receives once they are in a real school setting with real certified elementary school teachers.
This is not entirely accurate. Follow the link, and it will take you to the NY regs with the curriculm and educational requirements for providers.
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