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Beth
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Re: The Setaukets?


And even though it may be a different building Beth, its all the same school district. In fact most school districts have multiple elem. & middle schools.


well as a graduate I think I am better suited to give advice on the schools- they are different- the kids that go to the schools are different- even the programs offered are different

most districts do have mutliples schools- and there is normally a better school then another

and location makes a HUGE difference in Setuaket and I am sure it will in the years to come- my Dad couldn't afford the $10K more in 1976 for the same house I grew up in North of 25A- $10K back then traslated into over $300K
difference in resale value 30 years later

and last time I checked the #1 rule of real estate was - Location, Location, Location
one can only assume that the busy streets with get busier not less busy- making the quiter streets more diserable in the next 20 years

Posted 7/11/07 11:43 AM
 
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Re: The Setaukets?

All of it is nice, go look at the houses and decided for yourself.
Also, Centereach is not all that bad.Chat Icon

Posted 7/11/07 11:47 AM
 

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Re: The Setaukets?

Posted by SweetTooth

All of it is nice, go look at the houses and decided for yourself.
Also, Centereach is not all that bad.Chat Icon



ITA that Centerach isnt all that bad, no offense meant....just that they call a part of Centerach S. Setauket, tahts all Chat Icon

Posted 7/11/07 11:48 AM
 

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Re: The Setaukets?

Posted by Beth1210


And even though it may be a different building Beth, its all the same school district. In fact most school districts have multiple elem. & middle schools.



- the kids that go to the schools are different- even the programs offered are different






well of course the schools have different kids.. how could the same kids go to different schools.

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Posted 7/11/07 11:49 AM
 

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Re: The Setaukets?

I agree 100% about location, but with the way 25A & 347 have been expanding, its actually scaring how conjuested its gotten in the last 5-10 years, I personally don't think those areas, which fall within Setauket & E. Setauket, are any safer as terms of location than S. Setauket, which falls closer to Nicholls & the LIE. I know myself, I personally hate when it takes me forever to get somewhere because I'm sitting forever on 347. (All the Northern Suffolk gals can relate). 347 from Hauppauge until I'd say Selden gets crazy traffic, and 25A is even worse. OMG its crazy worse sometimes.

And as for schools, yes each elem. & middle might be slightly different, but its not like you are comparing a top rated school to an under rated school here. You are implying that by saying "they are different kids" as if one school is in a ghetto and the other is in Beverly Hills. Beth, come on now, it has differences, but not like the differences you are implying....

Message edited 7/11/2007 11:51:54 AM.

Posted 7/11/07 11:49 AM
 

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Posted by kerrycec03

I agree 100% about location, but with the way 25A & 347 have been expanding, its actually scaring how conjuested its gotten in the last 5-10 years, I personally don't think those areas, which fall within Setauket & E. Setauket, are any safer as terms of location than S. Setauket, which falls closer to Nicholls & the LIE. I know myself, I personally hate when it takes me forever to get somewhere because I'm sitting forever on 347. (All the Northern Suffolk gals can relate). 347 from Hauppauge until I'd say Selden gets crazy traffic, and 25A is even worse. OMG its crazy worse sometimes.

And as for schools, yes each elem. & middle might be slightly different, but its not like you are comparing a top rated school to an under rated school here. You are implying that by saying "they are different kids" as if one school is in a ghetto and the other is in Beverly Hills. Beth, come on now, it has differences, but not like the differences you are implying....



I live north of 347, and you learn to take the backroads. I can get to Nicholls without having to drive on 347.

i looked at houses in all parts of setauket, and i did find a difference in teh neighborhoods, but its all personal preference, there is no setauket ghetto, but there are some blocks that arent as well kept as others.

Posted 7/11/07 11:54 AM
 

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Re: The Setaukets?

true, every town has some blocks that are nicer than other.

Posted 7/11/07 11:55 AM
 

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Re: The Setaukets?

unless you live there or grew up there - it's hard to explain

Setauket is a funny place- I have seen alot of changes happen there over the last 30 years and I think that it will only get nicer as the years go on and much more crowded

Posted 7/11/07 11:58 AM
 

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Re: The Setaukets?

Posted by Beth1210

unless you live there or grew up there - it's hard to explain

Setauket is a funny place- I have seen alot of changes happen there over the last 30 years and I think that it will only get nicer as the years go on and much more crowded



ITA. we have alot of town, county, and state owned land in our neighborhood - there will be new houses there in the next 10 years for sure.

Posted 7/11/07 11:59 AM
 

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Re: The Setaukets?

I think what we can all agree upon - 3 Village SD has one of the prevalent economical differences within its district.

You have families who live in multi-million dollar homes, families who live in large center hall colonials, and families who live in hi-ranches, ranches, etc.

Although I never went through the SD myself, my husband did, and he's shared his views of the schools.

It's a fair SD in the area, recently plagued with problems in its administration, but slowly trying to revive its name, but always a solid place for learning and growing.

No matter where you decide to look within 3 Village, you're making a good choice in the area, and an investment into the SD.

And with any neighborhood, there are cutaways all around to avoid 347 and 25A. I'm guilty of it there are indirect ways to get to Nicolls and where I used to live, there's busy Sheep Pasture Rd now.

The area is fastly growing (as we can tell with the numerous shopping centers being built along 347, or at least expanding) and as Meaghan pointed out, there is a bit of govt land around that is undeveloped and I'm sure it will be transformed within our lifetime.

Posted 7/11/07 1:45 PM
 

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Re: The Setaukets?

Posted by Beth1210

unless you live there or grew up there - it's hard to explain

Setauket is a funny place- I have seen alot of changes happen there over the last 30 years and I think that it will only get nicer as the years go on and much more crowded



Well I think you could safely say any area has changed over the past 30 years.....

I don't understand what makes it so different than any other place that you have to live or have grown up there to make it hard to explain...

Going on what Betsy said, if I take her comments and your comments, you are saying that the people who live in the smaller houses are "different."

Posted 7/11/07 2:01 PM
 

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Re: The Setaukets?

My parents live in East Setauket on Old Town Rd. and love it. It really is a beautiful area.

Posted 7/11/07 2:03 PM
 

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Re: The Setaukets?

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Well I think you could safely say any area has changed over the past 30 years.....

I don't understand what makes it so different than any other place that you have to live or have grown up there to make it hard to explain...

Going on what Betsy said, if I take her comments and your comments, you are saying that the people who live in the smaller houses are "different."


no- it's harder to explain then just that- but I can try the way certain parents act- directly effects the way there childern are treated in the school- kids from certain elementary schools are treated better then kids that went to others- I know this first hand b/c my DH one of the kids that was treated badly

the pushy parents tend to live in certain areas and those kids are treated better- almost out of fear I would say

it doesn't have anything to do with the size of the house- b/c you have a really small house in old field or strongs neck-

I am not saying it's right- I am just telling it like it is

it's not that they are different - they are treated different- I think both of our husbands went to the same elementary school- so they would have a similar experince

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Posted 7/11/07 2:12 PM
 

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Posted by PotofLuck06

I think what we can all agree upon - 3 Village SD has one of the prevalent economical differences within its district.

You have families who live in multi-million dollar homes, families who live in large center hall colonials, and families who live in hi-ranches, ranches, etc.

Although I never went through the SD myself, my husband did, and he's shared his views of the schools.

It's a fair SD in the area, recently plagued with problems in its administration, but slowly trying to revive its name, but always a solid place for learning and growing.

No matter where you decide to look within 3 Village, you're making a good choice in the area, and an investment into the SD.

And with any neighborhood, there are cutaways all around to avoid 347 and 25A. I'm guilty of it there are indirect ways to get to Nicolls and where I used to live, there's busy Sheep Pasture Rd now.

The area is fastly growing (as we can tell with the numerous shopping centers being built along 347, or at least expanding) and as Meaghan pointed out, there is a bit of govt land around that is undeveloped and I'm sure it will be transformed within our lifetime.



Well said - I live in E. Setauket. My DH went to 3 Village schools and has said alot of the same things as you posted.

I think that all the Setauket area's are desirable. It's just a matter of what your looking for.

Posted 7/11/07 2:21 PM
 

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Re: The Setaukets?

Posted by Beth1210

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Well I think you could safely say any area has changed over the past 30 years.....

I don't understand what makes it so different than any other place that you have to live or have grown up there to make it hard to explain...

Going on what Betsy said, if I take her comments and your comments, you are saying that the people who live in the smaller houses are "different."


no- it's harder to explain then just that- but I can try the way certain parents act- directly effects the way there childern are treated in the school- kids from certain elementary schools are treated better then kids that went to others- I know this first hand b/c my DH one of the kids that was treated badly

the pushy parents tend to live in certain areas and those kids are treated better- almost out of fear I would say

it doesn't have anything to do with the size of the house- b/c you have a really small house in old field or strongs neck-

I am not saying it's right- I am just telling it like it is

it's not that they are different - they are treated different- I think both of our husbands went to the same elementary school- so they would have a similar experince


Wait, are you saying that my husband got a poorer education b/c he didn't live in the ritzy area of 3 Village, and b/c of the schools he attended, his parents tend to be the pushier type of people?Chat Icon Chat Icon

Posted 7/11/07 2:22 PM
 

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Re: The Setaukets?

WOW, all I can say is WOW, really, now, like I stated earlier, you are totally implying that certain areas are majorly different than other. We are talking about a 10 mile radius here ALL WITHIN THE SAME SCHOOL DISTRICT! I really just can't believe how certain folks think who are talking about a beautiful safe, well educated area being better than a beautiful, safe, well educated area. Do you know how snobby you sound? Seriously, its insanely snobby. I know we all have some snob in us, but seriously, to talk down about an area that is clearly a nice community and talk about its "people" and kids as if its a troubled school with crime, poverty, etc is so stupid.

PLEASE, I too went to a snobby school with different areas. I went to Smithtown, but I would never talk about "its people" the way you are, because I'm grown up enough to realize that within the town of Smithtown there are different areas but OVERALL its a beautiful, safe, well educated area.

I'm in complete shock. I've never heard somebody in my life talk about an area as nice as S. Setauket the way you are. My DH's boyfriend is from Stony Brook, went through 3 Village Schools and has never spoken the way you have.

Message edited 7/11/2007 2:28:14 PM.

Posted 7/11/07 2:24 PM
 

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Re: The Setaukets?




Wait, are you saying that my husband got a poorer education b/c he didn't live in the ritzy area of 3 Village, and b/c of the schools he attended, his parents tend to be the pushier type of people?Chat Icon Chat Icon


no- my DH feels that kids that went to his school, some not all- were treated badly we they went to Jr high- example-
Jake played football- he was really good and really big- but another kids father called the coach every day until his kid started and Jake sat on the bench even though Jake was better- that is just one example- Jake parents would never call- neither would mine for that matter- b/c they were teachers and they would never get invloved

this is all based on things I saw going there and stories Jake has told me

I remember certain kids didn't get into the gifted program- they cried- there parents called- and suddenly- they were "gifted"

I never though that everyone was treated equal there- I used to beg my Mom to call- b/c you would hear stories about how some mother called or came up to the school and was able to solve all the problems they had- from changing there lunch period- to bigger stuff

I said it was hard to explain and hard to understand- I am not looking to start drama over this

Posted 7/11/07 2:27 PM
 

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Re: The Setaukets?

ok, your story happens everywhere, not just in S. Setauket. Wake up, if that is the worst thing that happened within the 3 Village Schools, then you were both very lucky.

Posted 7/11/07 2:29 PM
 

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Re: The Setaukets?

Posted by kerrycec03

WOW, all I can say is WOW, really, now, like I stated earlier, you are totally implying that certain areas are majorly different than other. We are talking about a 10 mile radius here ALL WITHIN THE SAME SCHOOL DISTRICT! I really just can't believe how certain folks think who are talking about a beautiful safe, well educated area being better than a beautiful, safe, well educated area. Do you know how snobby you sound? Seriously, its insanely snobby. I know we all have some snob in us, but seriously, to talk down about an area that is clearly a nice community and talk about its "people" and kids as if its a troubled school with crime, poverty, etc is so stupid.



sorry if me telling the truth - is making me a snob- I grew up on lower sheep pasture rd- which is far from the best part of Setauket- and my parents NEVER got invloved- so I am just recapping what I saw as student- sorry if the truth hurts

I wish I could say it was a great place were every kid was treated equal- but the one I married doesn't feel he was treated equal

Posted 7/11/07 2:30 PM
 

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Re: The Setaukets?

Posted by Beth1210

Posted by kerrycec03

WOW, all I can say is WOW, really, now, like I stated earlier, you are totally implying that certain areas are majorly different than other. We are talking about a 10 mile radius here ALL WITHIN THE SAME SCHOOL DISTRICT! I really just can't believe how certain folks think who are talking about a beautiful safe, well educated area being better than a beautiful, safe, well educated area. Do you know how snobby you sound? Seriously, its insanely snobby. I know we all have some snob in us, but seriously, to talk down about an area that is clearly a nice community and talk about its "people" and kids as if its a troubled school with crime, poverty, etc is so stupid.



sorry if me telling the truth - is making me a snob- I grew up on lower sheep pasture rd- which is far from the best part of Setauket- and my parents NEVER got invloved- so I am just recapping what I saw as student- sorry if the truth hurts

I wish I could say it was a great place were every kid was treated equal- but the one I married doesn't feel he was treated equal




I am sorry if your husband feels that way, and your parents weren't invloved but that had nothing to do with the area of the town you and he were living in, it has to do with parenting and teaching styles and the way the kids repsond.

Posted 7/11/07 2:32 PM
 

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Re: The Setaukets?





I am sorry if your husband feels that way, and your parents weren't invloved but that had nothing to do with the area of the town you and he were living in, it has to do with parenting and teaching styles and the way the kids repsond.


I never said my parents weren't invloved-they were very invloved- I said my parents would ask the school to bend the rules for me- b/c they were teachers and they would never do that

Posted 7/11/07 2:34 PM
 

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Re: The Setaukets?

Posted by Beth1210




Wait, are you saying that my husband got a poorer education b/c he didn't live in the ritzy area of 3 Village, and b/c of the schools he attended, his parents tend to be the pushier type of people?Chat Icon Chat Icon


no- my DH feels that kids that went to his school, some not all- were treated badly we they went to Jr high- example-
Jake played football- he was really good and really big- but another kids father called the coach every day until his kid started and Jake sat on the bench even though Jake was better- that is just one example- Jake parents would never call- neither would mine for that matter- b/c they were teachers and they would never get invloved

this is all based on things I saw going there and stories Jake has told me

I remember certain kids didn't get into the gifted program- they cried- there parents called- and suddenly- they were "gifted"

I never though that everyone was treated equal there- I used to beg my Mom to call- b/c you would hear stories about how some mother called or came up to the school and was able to solve all the problems they had- from changing there lunch period- to bigger stuff

I said it was hard to explain and hard to understand- I am not looking to start drama over this


First, this happens in every SD in every place of NY. It happened where I went to HS which was far beyond LI.

Secondly, this happened to you and your husband, not necessarily to the rest of the community out there.

Every family is different, every child is different, every educator in the district is different in how they deal with each student. It's how the three combined parties respond to one another as to how the child will progress and advance.

My husband and his brother lived in the same neighborhood as your husband and all the issues you presented above were the exact opposite for them and they took every opportunity given to them and used it to the best of their skills/knowledge. His parent's weren't pushy - in fact they were hands off to allow their children to grow on their own, but they supported their every move.

I'm not saying there aren't discrepencies in the SD, but this is the case in every SD no matter where you are - it's not just the case for 3 Village.

Posted 7/11/07 2:37 PM
 

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Re: The Setaukets?

I think what Beth is saying is true for Setauket and true for alot of other places.

the original OP was asking what the difference was. Beth was giving her opinion. Which I agree with - ive driven almost every street in Setauket and there are parts of south setauket that arent as nice as others. and yes you can say that about everywhere, but the OP was asking about Setauket.



Posted 7/11/07 4:17 PM
 

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Re: The Setaukets?

So are the parents of the kids from the S. more pushy, or from the E.? Chat Icon

Posted 7/11/07 9:28 PM
 

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Re: The Setaukets?

I cannot speak for the Setaukets but I agree with Betsy in that all school districts have involved parents and non-involved parents.

Also, i think that 30 or so years ago our parents supported the teachers and if a child got in trouble in school the parent stood by the teacher and most parents then were not as pushy. Today that is a different story.

But in reality every school district on Long Island has similar kids, parents, teachers and problems.

Posted 7/11/07 10:17 PM
 
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