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NervousNell
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Re: that's not my job
Posted by Straightarrow
It's part of my job
If it's in your job description and part of your job then fine, it is what it is.
But I question a person who would even put that in a job description or make that a part of someone's job and expect their employees to serve them food or drinks like that.
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Re: that's not my job
Posted by Straightarrow
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I know.. I wouldn't even go to a store. You can literally order Starbucks from your phone and then go pick it up.
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Not when the boss keeps Kosher and doesn't have a cell phone!
LOL. I can't, how does your boss not have a phone.
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| Posted 10/22/18 12:50 PM |
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Pomegranate5
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Re: that's not my job
Posted by b2b777
I might be in the minority but I would have probably just done it, especially if my boss was cc'd. I would have wanted my boss to see that i go above and beyond when asked. That attitude has served me well over the course of my career.
This. Whether or not they should be doing this themselves isn't really for you to dictate. I would have just written out the card and earned some goodwill with someone who senior to me.
(Unless I was specifically directly by my manager not to do it. In which case I think your manager should have emailed back on your behalf.)
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| Posted 10/22/18 1:01 PM |
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Re: that's not my job
Posted by b2b777
I might be in the minority but I would have probably just done it, especially if my boss was cc'd. I would have wanted my boss to see that i go above and beyond when asked. That attitude has served me well over the course of my career.
Me too and IME people remember when you do. I have a friend who is an assistant and she does regular tasks plus 100 other personal stuff for her boss but she is compensated very well. Personally I would have a hard time saying no to a favor for a higher up (within reason of course)
Side note: It will probably take you the same amount of time to write out the email declining with an explanation then it does to write out a sympathy card.
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| Posted 10/22/18 1:06 PM |
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Re: that's not my job
I would do it. I look at it like this, if you have time to surf lifamilies and post here then then you have time to do actual work at your job. Sorry, just my opinion....
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| Posted 10/22/18 1:32 PM |
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Re: that's not my job
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I would do it. I look at it like this, if you have time to surf lifamilies and post here then then you have time to do actual work at your job. Sorry, just my opinion....
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| Posted 10/22/18 1:33 PM |
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Re: that's not my job
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by Straightarrow
It's part of my job
If it's in your job description and part of your job then fine, it is what it is.
But I question a person who would even put that in a job description or make that a part of someone's job and expect their employees to serve them food or drinks like that.
No offense but  it wasn't included in the hiring process. Actually it's something I had to be trusted to do.
Every job has it's quirks
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| Posted 10/22/18 1:34 PM |
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Re: that's not my job
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I know.. I wouldn't even go to a store. You can literally order Starbucks from your phone and then go pick it up.
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Not when the boss keeps Kosher and doesn't have a cell phone!
LOL. I can't, how does your boss not have a phone.
He does not. I also send his emails for him as him. But I'm sure someone will have a problem with that too 
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| Posted 10/22/18 1:34 PM |
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BargainMama
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Re: that's not my job
I think it's tacky to have someone else send a sympathy card out for you. VERY tacky. I can't imagine someone being that self important that they have to delegate this to someone else? Seriously? Disgusting
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| Posted 10/22/18 1:38 PM |
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Nickles01
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that's not my job
While tacky to have someone else do it, I would just do it. You look really bad when you decline doing tasks that you are asked of by upper management. They won't be so quick to look in your direction if an opportunity comes up.
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| Posted 10/22/18 1:53 PM |
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Re: that's not my job
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Posted by b2b777
I might be in the minority but I would have probably just done it, especially if my boss was cc'd. I would have wanted my boss to see that i go above and beyond when asked. That attitude has served me well over the course of my career.
I go above and beyond, I am also a very hard worker. But I go above and beyond for tasks/projects that are helping the company or team. Something that showcases my skills and knowledge, at the same time helping improve efficiency. Writing out a damn sympathy card does nothing but help a lazy person who doesn't want to do it or thinks they are too good for such a task. Just my opinion.
I agree to a certain degree. In this case it is disgusting that the person is not sending this card out for themselves. It is a sympathy card do it yourself. BUT regardless if someone asked me to do something and i had the time i would always say yes. Good will, good attitude also contributes to the team overall. I dont care if that is bringing someone a coffee or helping them witha powerpoint --- I have never had the "this is not my job" mentality ever.
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| Posted 10/22/18 1:54 PM |
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NervousNell
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Re: that's not my job
Posted by Straightarrow
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by Straightarrow
It's part of my job
If it's in your job description and part of your job then fine, it is what it is.
But I question a person who would even put that in a job description or make that a part of someone's job and expect their employees to serve them food or drinks like that.
No offense but it wasn't included in the hiring process. Actually it's something I had to be trusted to do.
Every job has it's quirks
OK.
No need for the eye roll.
Every person has a different idea of what is acceptable to them in a job.
Just like every job has it's quirks.
No offense.
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| Posted 10/22/18 2:16 PM |
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Re: that's not my job
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by Straightarrow
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by Straightarrow
It's part of my job
If it's in your job description and part of your job then fine, it is what it is.
But I question a person who would even put that in a job description or make that a part of someone's job and expect their employees to serve them food or drinks like that.
No offense but it wasn't included in the hiring process. Actually it's something I had to be trusted to do.
Every job has it's quirks
OK.
No need for the eye roll.
Every person has a different idea of what is acceptable to them in a job.
Just like every job has it's quirks.
No offense.
I don't think it's fair for people to sound so sanctimonious and high and mighty about what people should/shouldn't do at their job and obviously people will get defensive.
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| Posted 10/22/18 3:42 PM |
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KarenK122
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that's not my job
I would just do it. It's not like they are asking you to something that is taking a huge amount of time out of your day. If it bothers you that much, then bring it up to your boss and let him/her take care of the problem. I have a big problem with a person claiming things "aren't my job". If any of my staff told me that, they'd be on the short list to leave the department. I guess it depends on what type of industry you work in what is the norm.
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| Posted 10/22/18 5:08 PM |
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JennP
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Re: that's not my job
Posted by mrsrainbow
Posted by NervousNell
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Posted by NervousNell
Posted by Straightarrow
It's part of my job
If it's in your job description and part of your job then fine, it is what it is.
But I question a person who would even put that in a job description or make that a part of someone's job and expect their employees to serve them food or drinks like that.
No offense but it wasn't included in the hiring process. Actually it's something I had to be trusted to do.
Every job has it's quirks
OK.
No need for the eye roll.
Every person has a different idea of what is acceptable to them in a job.
Just like every job has it's quirks.
No offense.
I don't think it's fair for people to sound so sanctimonious and high and mighty about what people should/shouldn't do at their job and obviously people will get defensive.
Wow- I read what Nervousnell wrote much differently.
She wasn’t being sanctimonious towards the poster; it sounded more like she was being critical of the person who put something like that in a job description.
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| Posted 10/22/18 5:37 PM |
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JennP
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Re: that's not my job
Posted by jellybean78
Posted by b2b777
I might be in the minority but I would have probably just done it, especially if my boss was cc'd. I would have wanted my boss to see that i go above and beyond when asked. That attitude has served me well over the course of my career.
Me too and IME people remember when you do. I have a friend who is an assistant and she does regular tasks plus 100 other personal stuff for her boss but she is compensated very well. Personally I would have a hard time saying no to a favor for a higher up (within reason of course)
Side note: It will probably take you the same amount of time to write out the email declining with an explanation then it does to write out a sympathy card.
How is it the same amount of time? She’s got to go to the store, buy it, get the info, fill it out, and send it.
Like others have said every industry is different, but in general I’ve been in 2 very different industries and the person who takes on more work like this gets... more work like this.
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| Posted 10/22/18 5:41 PM |
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Re: that's not my job
I had something similar like this happen to me. I’m freelance and not on a contract. My secretary was asking me to get something that would have taken 3 hours out of my time. I said no, that’s not my job unless you want to pay me for my time. She said OK.
However, that was my secretary. If my boss asked me for a favor, I might do it. It really depends. I do a lot of favors for my boss, and she does reward me with extra pay. I just simply negotiate with them. Again, I’m freelance. That might be a different situation.
If I were you, I’d just say that it will take me X amount of time and I would like to be paid extra for it. But I’ve become pushy like that.
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| Posted 10/22/18 6:22 PM |
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NervousNell
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Re: that's not my job
I wonder if a male employee would be asked to get someone's coffee, run errands, or send sympathy cards.
Just something to think about....
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| Posted 10/22/18 6:46 PM |
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Re: that's not my job
Posted by NervousNell
I wonder if a male employee would be asked to get someone's coffee, run errands, or send sympathy cards.
Just something to think about....
I highly doubt it and if so the percentage would be very low male vs. female.
My boss one time asked me if I would take on the role of my VP who just left with no raise or promotion. I’m sure he wouldn’t have asked that of a male. I said no and plainly said he would have to change my title and give me more money.
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| Posted 10/22/18 7:08 PM |
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Re: that's not my job
I'm with the "just do it" camp. Here's why - where I work there are org changes all the time. I have had 12 managers in 10 years. I would be wary that one day soon I would be working for the other manager. Often we report to people who aren't on location so it wouldn't make a difference what office/department/title the person had. It would always be a possibility. I have even seen a manager/employee relationship switch and the former manager now works for the employee. You just never know.
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| Posted 10/22/18 9:53 PM |
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LuckyStar
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that's not my job
I would say you're sorry but you don't feel comfortable writing out a sympathy card for someone you don't know.
The manager can't be all that sympathetic if she can't even write out a damn card.
ETA or just pretend you didn't see the email. I certainly wouldn't reply with "that's not my job" and cc your boss. No manager wants to be put in between their employee and their colleague. You're only going to irritate both of them.
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| Posted 10/22/18 10:26 PM |
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Re: that's not my job
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by Straightarrow
It's part of my job
If it's in your job description and part of your job then fine, it is what it is.
But I question a person who would even put that in a job description or make that a part of someone's job and expect their employees to serve them food or drinks like that.
It was probably a blanket "assists with day to day tasks and requests from manager." I can't possibly imagine someone put "make tea" in the job description.
And if someone was paying me well enough, I'd make them all the damn tea they wanted. I know assistants who make bonuses larger than their yearly salaries. For a salary plus $75k at the end of the year, I'll have you so caffeinated you'll be jumping on your desk like it's a trampoline.
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| Posted 10/22/18 10:41 PM |
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Re: that's not my job
I think you handled it ok. I migt have spoken to the boss though.
As someone who has an assisstant that other people try to take advantage of, I wouldn't have a problem, if he said no, or checked with me first.
Something came up recently where I didn't do something fast enough for someone's (from another department & was just promoted one step up from assistant) )liking, so she asked my assistant. she didn't ask him to check on when it would be done- she just asked him like it was a new request. He actually checked with me, b/c while yes it is in his job description, he is not supposed to take tasks for other departments. He reports to 3 people as it is.
Now someone else form that department is asking us to do something she knows her assistant is supposed to do (it came up about a month ago) and after asking
me to do it, says, oh by the way. . .what is your new assistant's name & email?
nice try.
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| Posted 10/22/18 10:55 PM |
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Re: that's not my job
Posted by MK2010x2
I'm with the "just do it" camp. Here's why - where I work there are org changes all the time. I have had 12 managers in 10 years. I would be wary that one day soon I would be working for the other manager. Often we report to people who aren't on location so it wouldn't make a difference what office/department/title the person had. It would always be a possibility. I have even seen a manager/employee relationship switch and the former manager now works for the employee. You just never know.
I work at start ups and we change managers more than a person changes their underwear. At my last company, in the two years I switched mgrs 5 times. The culture is always an “All hands on deck”. So I understand the whole it’s not my job being bad repoir because we don’t have that mentality.
However, if someone is taking advantage of me and asking for things obviously outside my scope of work for no other reason than they feel like they can; then I have every right to say No.
To be honest this is also a good skill to have, especially if someone wants to be a manager some day. There are many times where I had to say no on behalf of my team. I always offered another solution and good reason why, but you have to be able to say no as well.
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| Posted 10/22/18 11:08 PM |
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NervousNell
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Re: that's not my job
Posted by Sash
However, if someone is taking advantage of me and asking for things obviously outside my scope of work for no other reason than they feel like they can; then I have every right to say No.
To be honest this is also a good skill to have, especially if someone wants to be a manager some day. There are many times where I had to say no on behalf of my team. I always offered another solution and good reason why, but you have to be able to say no as well.
This is a good point. I can't tell you how many times I've had to step in because people were trying to take advantage of the people who work for me. And we are the team that is always getting recognized for going above and beyond, never saying no, making things work even when they don't, etc. So it's not about that. It's about people trying to dump work on them that takes them away from their real job. And lowers their morale. And makes them not want to work as hard or go above and beyond anymore.
So part of my job, as their manager, is to balance that.
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