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SPINOFF -IF you are a potential buyer would this bother you...
The other post today got me thinking........
As everyone knows we are in the process of selling.
I want to do everything correct this time to maximize our chances of making a sale.
Every time we have a showing we are pretty much home (whether its me and DD or DH and DD, me-dH and DD etc.
We never intervene (unless directly asked something), we dont lead them or get involved whatsoever.
But if its nice out we go in the yard (we have a 2.5 y/o DD) OR if not nice out we go in the basement (DD'd toy room).
Is this a bad thing. Should i go sit in my car??? I never do that bc like i said with DD sometimes it is hard BUT I would love advice. Bc if it is a HUGE turnoff that I am even in the house (even though in basement and out of sight) I will leave.
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Re: SPINOFF -IF you are a potential buyer would this bother you...
I used to take the boys to my inlaws, but stopped. We NEVER bother thm, or follow them. DH is just there to answer most of the questions. Most of the time, they are so friendly with us that they talk to him.
I now just kept the boys in the toy room and play with them, so they werent in the way. I think you just do what you have to do.
We did put our dog in the car because we didnt know how others were around a dog.
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I think it's fine to be there. Just greet them nicely, let the buyers and their agent know you will be in the office, playroom, backyard, basement - wherever - if they have any questions, but they should feel free to walk through themselves - open cabinets, closets, whatever. And then let them.
If the house isn't vacant (e.g., the people already moved), then the sellers are usually home for most of my showings. It's not like it's an unusual thing. But it's all in how it's handled. Being present is one thing, being an overbearing pest is another!!!
But it sounds like you've been doing everything right!
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Re: SPINOFF -IF you are a potential buyer would this bother you...
Posted by Century 21 Dallow - Christine Braun
I think it's fine to be there. Just greet them nicely, let the buyers and their agent know you will be in the office, playroom, backyard, basement - wherever - if they have any questions, but they should feel free to walk through themselves - open cabinets, closets, whatever. And then let them.
If the house isn't vacant (e.g., the people already moved), then the sellers are usually home for most of my showings. It's not like it's an unusual thing. But it's all in how it's handled. Being present is one thing, being an overbearing pest is another!!!
But it sounds like you've been doing everything right!
Ok thanks Christine!! I always do exactly that. Open the door and say hi, the say we are going to be in the basement toy room to take their time and if they have any questions feel free to ask.
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On the weekends we were never home. Durning the week if nobody was napping or I wasn't waiting to put my DS on/ off the bus I wasn't home.
I know how hard it is with kids, but it was easier to take them out then keep them quiet at home.
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Re: SPINOFF -IF you are a potential buyer would this bother you...
DH and I just went to see a house this past weekend where the sellers went to sit in their car while we looked at their house.
Honestly, although it was very nice of them to give us some space, I felt so bad that they were outside waiting for us that I went through the house at a faster pace then I would have had they just left and gone to the diner or grocery store or something.
If it's not possible to go anywhere then just behave normally in your home when vistors are over. It would have made me much more comfortable knowing that I wasn't inconviencing anyone.
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Re: SPINOFF -IF you are a potential buyer would this bother you...
As a buyer, I don't like the people being home. It makes me feel like I'm intruding on their home instead of seeing my potential home. And I have never been interested or gone back to a house where the people were home, because it felt like I was in THEIR space.
If you watch HGTV they always say to remove as much personal stuff as you can from the home so that the buyer can see the house, how they would decorate etc.
If you're home I'd be less likely to take a good look around, ask questions or say anything in case I offended you.
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Re: SPINOFF -IF you are a potential buyer would this bother you...
It didn't bother me at ALL when we were looking, more often than not I had questions that the owner(s) were able to answer quickly and credibly (RE agents were always unsure of anything I asked or "hedged" their answers). As long as you're not hovering over them I think you're AOK to stay at home!!!
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Re: SPINOFF -IF you are a potential buyer would this bother you...
I think for most people it is a turn off. I know it turned me off. Someone mght see a young family and think, why are they leaving? Is the house too small, etc? Obviously, they can see you have a young child by the decor/crib, toys, etc so no matter what they can think that. But overall, I think most people want to be able to envision themselves there, not actually SEE who currently lives there. KWIM? Now of course if they want your house, I am sure you being there has no bearing but I am sure people prefer to not see anyone when they visit. I never stayed for even one of my showings when I sold. We would all leave, pets included, even at a minute's notice. It was hard, but I did it every time and I am sure people appreciated it and maybe felt more connected to my home (their potential home) that way. We would just drive around until they left. In the end, if they want to buy your home, I don't think it matters that much, but generally speaking, if you can be out, I think it can't hurt.
I know sometimes, we would also feel some sellers could clearly leave but were simply being lazy by staying (please don't get offended anyone on here, we had a few senarios where the sellers could have easily gone for a walk or a car ride, etc). For ex, one home we saw, we were so turned off b/c the family was just hanging around in their kitchen, and we felt uncomfortable to look in closets, etc. It sort of made us feel like they were being lazy and if they wanted to sell badly enough, why couldn't they just take some time to let us view the home on our own, privately with the realtor (the family did not have young kids, with young kids I can understand not being able to run out every showing). I guess the feeling sort of says, wow, they have been trying to sell so long that they can't even be bothered to leave when someone comes to visit, it's just too much work for them.One lady sat on her couch watching tv eating a bag of chips. We still TALK about THAT house and THAT lady and the feelings it gave us about the house. And those FEELINGs turned us off big time. But would I have wanted those houses if they weren't home? I doubt it, probably not but maybe I would have started off with a different vibe.
Now my current home...the seller was home and packing. Left us alone, answered questions and didn't turn me off enough to not want it. We knew it was the right home for us no matter what. But had we been on the fence, this would not have helped (her being home).
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Re: SPINOFF -IF you are a potential buyer would this bother you...
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I think for most people it is a turn off. I know it turned me off. Someone mght see a young family and think, why are they leaving? Is the house too small, etc? Obviously, they can see you have a young child by the decor/crib, toys, etc so no matter what they can think that. But overall, I think most people want to be able to envision themselves there, not actually SEE who currently lives there. KWIM? Now of course if they want your house, I am sure you being there has no bearing but I am sure people prefer to not see anyone when they visit. I never stayed for even one of my showings when I sold. We would all leave, pets included, even at a minute's notice. It was hard, but I did it every time and I am sure people appreciated it and maybe felt more connected to my home (their potential home) that way. We would just drive around until they left. In the end, if they want to buy your home, I don't think it matters that much, but generally speaking, if you can be out, I think it can't hurt.
I know sometimes, we would also feel lsome people could leave but were being lazy by staying (please don't get offended anyone on here, we had a few senarios where the sellers could have easily gone for a walk or a car ride, etc). For ex, one home we saw, we were so turned off b/c the family was just hanging around in their kitchen, and we felt uncomfortable to look in closets, etc. It sort of made us feel like they were being lazy and if they wanted to sell badly enough, why couldn't they just take some time to let us view the home on our own, privately with the realtor (the family did not have young kids, with young kids I can understand not being able to run out every showing). I guess the feeling sort of says, wow, they have been trying to sell so long that they can't even be bothered to leave when someone comes to visit, it's just too much work for them. And that FEELING turned us off big time. But would I have wanted those houses if they weren't home? I doubt it, probably not but maybe I would have started off with a different vibe.
good points. Let me ask you, HOW do you let the agent in then if you leave? My agent doesnt have keys.
We usually open the door then walk downstairs.
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Re: SPINOFF -IF you are a potential buyer would this bother you...
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good points. Let me ask you, HOW do you let the agent in then if you leave? My agent doesnt have keys.
We usually open the door then walk downstairs.
I would unlock the front door. Get in my car, sit outside. Then when they would pull up, I would pulll away. Agent would call me when they left to come back and he would lock the doors with the button lock (b/c I had the keys). No agents had our keys either, ever.
I edited my post above, with more info, btw.
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Re: SPINOFF -IF you are a potential buyer would this bother you...
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good points. Let me ask you, HOW do you let the agent in then if you leave? My agent doesnt have keys.
We usually open the door then walk downstairs.
I would unlock the front door. Get in my car, sit outside. Then when they would pull up, I would pulll away. Agent would call me when they left to come back and he would lock the doors with the button lock (b/c I had the keys). No agents had our keys either, ever.
I edited my post above, with more info, btw.
Ok you have a great point/plan but we are on mls, so how would that work.
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Re: SPINOFF -IF you are a potential buyer would this bother you...
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good points. Let me ask you, HOW do you let the agent in then if you leave? My agent doesnt have keys.
We usually open the door then walk downstairs.
I would unlock the front door. Get in my car, sit outside. Then when they would pull up, I would pulll away. Agent would call me when they left to come back and he would lock the doors with the button lock (b/c I had the keys). No agents had our keys either, ever.
I edited my post above, with more info, btw.
Ok you have a great point/plan but we are on mls, so how would that work.
I would make sure your realtor makes sure all appointments are made in advance, and then I would just sit outside my home, a few houses away, and watch and wait until they left in that case.
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Re: SPINOFF -IF you are a potential buyer would this bother you...
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good points. Let me ask you, HOW do you let the agent in then if you leave? My agent doesnt have keys.
We usually open the door then walk downstairs.
I would unlock the front door. Get in my car, sit outside. Then when they would pull up, I would pulll away. Agent would call me when they left to come back and he would lock the doors with the button lock (b/c I had the keys). No agents had our keys either, ever.
I edited my post above, with more info, btw.
Ok you have a great point/plan but we are on mls, so how would that work.
I would make sure your realtor makes sure all appointments are made in advance, and then I would just sit outside my home, a few houses away, and watch and wait until they left in that case.
Ok good idea. See in the summer so much easier, bc DD and i go for a walk up the block and when I see them walk out we head back. In the winter sooo much harder. But thats what i'll do for now, sit in car prior to the appt (ugh, those one hr windows are sooo annoying tho ) pull away when they come and park up the block and come back when they leave.
That should work no???
ETA: for instance though last weekend we got a cal that the buyers were up the block and wanted to come in 5 minutes. So I had company over and it was soo awkward!!! In that case do you turn down a showing or no!!! 
ok then friday I had people who called at 2pm for a 430-530 appt and showed up at 340. THEN WHAT!!!
As you can see this whole process is starting to frustrate me
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Ok good idea. See in the summer so much easier, bc DD and i go for a walk up the block and when I see them walk out we head back. In the winter sooo much harder. But thats what i'll do for now, sit in car prior to the appt (ugh, those one hr windows are sooo annoying tho ) pull away when they come and park up the block and come back when they leave.
That should work no???
ETA: for instance though last weekend we got a cal that the buyers were up the block and wanted to come in 5 minutes. So I had company over and it was soo awkward!!! In that case do you turn down a showing or no!!!
ok then friday I had people who called at 2pm for a 430-530 appt and showed up at 340. THEN WHAT!!!
As you can see this whole process is starting to frustrate me
Just be ready to leave when they pull up. That's all. Have a bag ready for your DD to eat a snack or drink the car and give it a try a few times to see how it works out. I would not leave my home until they showed up. Walk out your side or back door, as they are coming in the front door. Stressful as heck but my house sold within a mth. Not saying this was why but def didn't hurt.
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So I had company over and it was soo awkward!!! In that case do you turn down a showing or no!!!
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See in that case, if I had something planned, I would absolutely turn down the showing. I would not want to appear desperate. If they want to see it badly enough, they can come at a time that you don't have people over. I think it's ok to be available on a whim most days, but some days, there is a limit IMO. But that's JMO. I never wanted to seem desperate, nor did I want to seem not motivated to sell. Fine line IMO, so if you really can't show it, IMO, they will pick another time if their "whim" can't be accomodated that day. Again, JMO.
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Ok good idea. See in the summer so much easier, bc DD and i go for a walk up the block and when I see them walk out we head back. In the winter sooo much harder. But thats what i'll do for now, sit in car prior to the appt (ugh, those one hr windows are sooo annoying tho ) pull away when they come and park up the block and come back when they leave.
That should work no???
ETA: for instance though last weekend we got a cal that the buyers were up the block and wanted to come in 5 minutes. So I had company over and it was soo awkward!!! In that case do you turn down a showing or no!!!
ok then friday I had people who called at 2pm for a 430-530 appt and showed up at 340. THEN WHAT!!!
As you can see this whole process is starting to frustrate me
Just be ready to leave when they pull up. That's all. Have a bag ready for your DD to eat a snack or drink the car and give it a try a few times to see how it works out. I would not leave my home until they showed up. Walk out your side or back door, as they are coming in the front door. Stressful as heck but my house sold within a mth. Not saying this was why but def didn't hurt.
ok thats the plan. Will try this.
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I see everyone's points about what would happen in an ideal situation. And in an ideal world, the sellers would be completely absent from the home. But having the homeowners actually leave the premises each and every time seems impractical to me.
First, when I am showng homes, I am often showing 4 or 5 at a time. Because I don't know how long we will spend in each home and how long the drive will take from home to home, I usually schedule my appointments in an hour's window (e.g., we will be there b/w 5 and 6). That is customary - most agents work that way. So that means you and your kids, pets, etc., have to be ready and waiting to go for up to an hour, if the agent showing the home shows up late in the window.
Second, I think it's always preferable to have the showing, even under less than ideal circumstances, than to turn down a showing. I often show homes on weekday evenings when buyers are home from work. In the winter, it's dark and cold out. Many people are eating dinner. I would not expect them to leave their homes at that time. Also, I show a lot of homes on weekends, sometimes mid-late morning when kids are still sleeping or just getting up. It's not always reasonable to expect people to leave, and I would rather be able to schedule the showing than have to wait for the ideal time. Most buyers and most agents will move on to the next house if a house is too difficult to get into.
Finally, I think the simpler the better when it comes to showing instructions (assuming I am not showing my own listing). Agents are used to 4 basic showing instructions -- (i) there's a key to pick up to access the house, (ii) a lockbox on the house that I can access to get the key, (iii) the homeowner will be there to let me in, or (iv) the listing agent will meet us there to open up the house. Agents who are showing other agents' listings usually make the appt via the listing agent's office. So now you are expecting the receptionist to convey that the door will be left unlocked, and you can lock up (if it's possible) without a key). I think there's a lot of potential for confusion. In that scenario, I honestly would just prefer for the homeowner to be there to let me in, so I don't need to worry about getting in, waiting for them to return or locking up their house without a key, etc.
And honestly, I have had many buyers put in offers on homes where the sellers were home. I think at certain times it can be a hindrance (again, it's all in how it's handled), but I don't think that it's universally a problem.
Sometimes vacant homes are actually more of a problem to sell. If they are unfurnished, people sometimes have trouble envisioning how the rooms would function, where furniture would go. And if they are furnished but unoccupied, a lot of times people still don't like it because they think it doesn't have a homey, lived in feel. So there can be challenges in every selling scenario.
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Re: SPINOFF -IF you are a potential buyer would this bother you...
Posted by Century 21 Dallow - Christine Braun
I see everyone's points about what would happen in an ideal situation. And in an ideal world, the sellers would be completely absent from the home. But having the homeowners actually leave the premises each and every time seems impractical to me.
First, when I am showng homes, I am often showing 4 or 5 at a time. Because I don't know how long we will spend in each home and how long the drive will take from home to home, I usually schedule my appointments in an hour's window (e.g., we will be there b/w 5 and 6). That is customary - most agents work that way. So that means you and your kids, pets, etc., have to be ready and waiting to go for up to an hour, if the agent showing the home shows up late in the window.
Second, I think it's always preferable to have the showing, even under less than ideal circumstances, than to turn down a showing. I often show homes on weekday evenings when buyers are home from work. In the winter, it's dark and cold out. Many people are eating dinner. I would not expect them to leave their homes at that time. Also, I show a lot of homes on weekends, sometimes mid-late morning when kids are still sleeping or just getting up. It's not always reasonable to expect people to leave, and I would rather be able to schedule the showing than have to wait for the ideal time. Most buyers and most agents will move on to the next house if a house is too difficult to get into.
Finally, I think the simpler the better when it comes to showing instructions (assuming I am not showing my own listing). Agents are used to 4 basic showing instructions -- (i) there's a key to pick up to access the house, (ii) a lockbox on the house that I can access to get the key, (iii) the homeowner will be there to let me in, or (iv) the listing agent will meet us there to open up the house. Agents who are showing other agents' listings usually make the appt via the listing agent's office. So now you are expecting the receptionist to convey that the door will be left unlocked, and you can lock up (if it's possible) without a key). I think there's a lot of potential for confusion. In that scenario, I honestly would just prefer for the homeowner to be there to let me in, so I don't need to worry about getting in, waiting for them to return or locking up their house without a key, etc.
And honestly, I have had many buyers put in offers on homes where the sellers were home. I think at certain times it can be a hindrance (again, it's all in how it's handled), but I don't think that it's universally a problem.
Sometimes vacant homes are actually more of a problem to sell. If they are unfurnished, people sometimes have trouble envisioning how the rooms would function, where furniture would go. And if they are furnished but unoccupied, a lot of times people still don't like it because they think it doesn't have a homey, lived in feel. So there can be challenges in every selling scenario.
Thanks Christine! Being that you are the expert and always honest with all of us!
I will try and just walk out of the house when someone comes and if not I will continue to go in the basement toy room. Again, we NEVER bother them, are not intrusive, we keep DD quiet and of course out of the way and the only time we have contact is when they walk into the basement.
Funny be when we sold our first home we were present and actually got 10000s of questions fro the buyers. And when we bought that house the sellers were present and were so helpful if and when we needed them to be.
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When we were looking, none of the sellers were ever present. I prefer it that way so that we can talk candidly about the house. If they were home, I would feel bad about discussing the negatives.
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we went house hunting 2 weeks ago. Out of 11 homes, only 4 had the sellers home. It wouldn't discourage me to buy a house, but we definitely felt like we couldn't really say what we truly felt till be were in the car. The one good thing was that some of the sellers was chatty, so they gave alot of info on the houses (although we didnt go with those LOL). When we sold out condo last year, we would try to not be home (yes it meant schlepping the kids out). Like you guys, even if it was to take the kids for a walk. I will say that we were home when the guy who bought our place came through, so it didn't bother him Good luck!! Selling (especially when you have kids) is a pain between trying not be in the house and trying to keep it clean
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Re: SPINOFF -IF you are a potential buyer would this bother you...
Im trying to think how I felt everytime we went into a house that we were looking at that there were people there...compared to when there werent people there.
When there werent people there, I took more time in the house and looked at things more closely because I didnt feel that I was offending anyone by looking at things closely. Also I felt that I wasnt been an intrusion so I was slightly more comfortable as I looked around. BUT when there were people in the house, if they were a couple or a couple with a child, it was easy to picture my family there and especially if they were nice people when we said hi, it was good to think that we would be living in a house that had nice, friendly people there before us. The only thing I remember at 1 or 2 houses that had people in it is that if I sensed that they were upset that it hadnt sold yet and were just looking at us like, oh, more people coming through who won't buy it (and almost bothered)- that that kind of turned me off and also made me think a little, why do they want to get rid of this house SO bad. (I know this was all in my head and no matter what their situation was, especially they could have really good reasons for not being able/wanting to stay, it should have no bearing, however, I just want to give my honest reaction ) But again, most houses where there were people, it was nice and I didn't mind at all.
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Re: SPINOFF -IF you are a potential buyer would this bother you...
We've looked at a lottttttttttt of houses, with and without the sellers there. It never mattered to us at all unless they followed us and pointed out every single thing in the rooms. That's annoying. What youre doing is totally fine imo!
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Re: SPINOFF -IF you are a potential buyer would this bother you...
Posted by carissa1643
We've looked at a lottttttttttt of houses, with and without the sellers there. It never mattered to us at all unless they followed us and pointed out every single thing in the rooms. That's annoying. What youre doing is totally fine imo!
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Re: SPINOFF -IF you are a potential buyer would this bother you...
It would turn me off. I would feel like I could not honestly inspect the home or discuss it. Being in the yard is different, but it would still bother me. I want to be able to take my time and talks openly with me realtor and DH. I went to one house where the family was inside with the dog and we left. Just think of how you would feel on the flip side.
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