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Rehomed pets...another point of view
I have to say it saddens me to see some many pets in need of a new home
but as a rehomed pet owner- I see it more as an oppertunity to find a better home for your pet
maybe I am an opitimist
but I never ever had a pet before taking in my cat- at the age of 7
and we ended up being a perfect match
I also had the oppertunity to rehome a pet that was left in my care when her orginal owners lost their apartment and then vanished
she ended up in a fantastic situation with a lovely older couple in NYC that just wanted to spoil her
maybe engery would be better spent trying to find more suitable homes then rehashing the you never should have got a pet in the first place arugement
just an idea...I don't think people just take in pets to give them away- but things happen and in my case I am so glad that Pokey's orginal owner could no longer care for him
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Re: Rehomed pets...another point of view
I agree!
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Goobster
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Re: Rehomed pets...another point of view
While I agree and love stories like this, for every story like this there are probably 10 that did not turn up so wonderful. There are more animals out there in need of love than loving homes for them, this is the harsh reality.
But I love what both of you have done for these animals.
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Re: Rehomed pets...another point of view
it is very true with rehomed pets, i have three box turtles that were tossed away and now have fantastic lives (yes i have permits for them). Sometimes things happen and you need to find a new home for a pet. I have one turtle who's owner passed away and i was the only one on LI who had permits to have her. So now she lives with me. I am burdened at times because they are expensive to take to the vet but I dedicated my life to have them (and its a 35-50+ year investment for turtles)
For me though I get completely annoyed when people do not take the time and research the needs of their "pet" and take it in then rehome them when they realize it is too much to handle or the pet got too big, etc. To me there is no excuse not doing homework before opting to get a pet. I even get annoyed walking into Petco where people buy "throw away fish"- no such thing in my book.
Also with having children even with researching a good breed there is no guarantee that the pet would not have adjustment issues but that is why i think people should treat pets as good friends - not children otherwise when kids come along BAMB you have some serious adjustment issues that hurt more then anything.
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leese
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Re: Rehomed pets...another point of view
I, of course, totally agree. As I have said a few times, I took in an english bulldog who was special needs. I have no idea what his previous life was like but I know for sure that he is happy with us.
I am not totally active with the rescue group but know enough to know that they are constantly placing dogs with families. So, its successful, and works time and time again. I'm sure that those who run the organization get tired but from someone who benefited, I refuse to see it as a bad thing and instead, think of it as a good thing to find the right home for a pet you can no longer care for.
There are so many reasons -- old age, death, changes in life, etc. etc. -- but there are so many people like myself who find taking in an older dog (even with special needs) as a blessing in their lives.
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SweetTooth
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Re: Rehomed pets...another point of view
However, not every pet that is unwanted ends up in a loving home like yours. Many of them, MOST of them, end up in the street, or being euthanized at a town facility.
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Re: Rehomed pets...another point of view
When you turn a blind eye to both the positive and negative implications of situations like this, you're doing the victim a disservice.
I'm not saying that's what everyone does. In the years at LIF and trolling the Pets board before I even had one, my mind changed about this dilemma. I saw the arguments, the nastiness, the LIW/LIF cross board wars, the blame, the retorts. For that one dog or cat in that one situation, they weren't helped by any of it.
But the larger picture remains that all the animals in shelters and rescues got there somehow and it's naive to think that they were all victims of helpless situations. Many people, me included, know pet collectors. People who adopt or buy them only to toss them aside when they cause 'trouble'.
If you favor the nice, happy endings and ignore the cause, it will never ever change, will it? What incentive do the lazy, irresponsible people or pet collectors have to STOP doing what they're doing? None. Except, perhaps, being ostracized by others who do NOT agree with what they do and tell them so.
Other people voice the anger and resentment for me, so these days I tend to try to focus on the solution at hand - getting the animal placed in a forever home that will love them and meet their needs. But I won't ignore all the pets out there who are not so lucky:
(Pets have collars. These are the collars of family pets that arrived at a kill shelter and were euthanized)
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Goobster
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Re: Rehomed pets...another point of view
Posted by greenfreak
When you turn a blind eye to both the positive and negative implications of situations like this, you're doing the victim a disservice.
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(Pets have collars. These are the collars of family pets that arrived at a kill shelter and were euthanized)
Exactly. Well said.
Happy endings are wonderful but they are few and farther between.
This picture makes me sick to my stomach.
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anonttcer
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Re: Rehomed pets...another point of view
God that picture.
I just cannot.
Rehoming is one thing. Taking your pet to a kill shelter is deplorable.
How on earth would you sleep at night?
The state of this world really scares me when I think of people with no souls like that...
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Diana712
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Re: Rehomed pets...another point of view
Posted by anonttcer
God that picture.
I just cannot.
Rehoming is one thing. Taking your pet to a kill shelter is deplorable.
How on earth would you sleep at night?
The state of this world really scares me when I think of people with no souls like that...
It may not be that first home he gets.. People may think they are finding a forever home.. Then something happens in that family!! Thats how they end up there too!! OMG
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Goobster
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Re: Rehomed pets...another point of view
Posted by dilb712
It may not be that first home he gets.. People may think they are finding a forever home.. Then something happens in that family!! Thats how they end up there too!! OMG
THIS IS MY POINT EXACTLY. Your pet, that you rehome, you may THINK has a good home...but things happen and time goes on and the pet you REHOMED may wind up being dumped....and wind up in this situation.
So to me, rehoming isn't fool proof when it comes to that animal's well being. The only way I could be sure my dogs are safe and treated well is WITH ME. Bottom line, so i am always hesitant when I see people freely and what appears without too much hesitancy giving their pets away, even if it appears to be going to a "good" home.
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Re: Rehomed pets...another point of view
Posted by Goobster
Posted by dilb712
It may not be that first home he gets.. People may think they are finding a forever home.. Then something happens in that family!! Thats how they end up there too!! OMG
THIS IS MY POINT EXACTLY. Your pet, that you rehome, you may THINK has a good home...but things happen and time goes on and the pet you REHOMED may wind up being dumped....and wind up in this situation.
So to me, rehoming isn't fool proof when it comes to that animal's well being. The only way I could be sure my dogs are safe and treated well is WITH ME. Bottom line, so i am always hesitant when I see people freely and what appears without too much hesitancy giving their pets away, even if it appears to be going to a "good" home.
I also don't think that I could do it emotionally. I could not part with my cats. I just couldn't. I can't think of any circumstances where I'd be ok without them. Even just putting their welfare aside for a second- for me- for my own SELFISH reasons- I would not be able to part with them.
I would be an emotional basket case.
So I never understand how it's done...
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leese
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Re: Rehomed pets...another point of view
Posted by Goobster
Posted by dilb712
It may not be that first home he gets.. People may think they are finding a forever home.. Then something happens in that family!! Thats how they end up there too!! OMG
THIS IS MY POINT EXACTLY. Your pet, that you rehome, you may THINK has a good home...but things happen and time goes on and the pet you REHOMED may wind up being dumped....and wind up in this situation.
So to me, rehoming isn't fool proof when it comes to that animal's well being. The only way I could be sure my dogs are safe and treated well is WITH ME. Bottom line, so i am always hesitant when I see people freely and what appears without too much hesitancy giving their pets away, even if it appears to be going to a "good" home.
I understand what you are saying...but if you go to a reputable rescue organization then you can be assured that your pet will have a good home. Even if I could no longer care for my dog or something happened, my rescue organization would come in and take him back and rehome him properly.
I had to have a home visit, foster him for a while and keep them up to date. I had to sign a contract that I could never ever "get rid of him" without first contacting them. Meaning - I could be sued.
So, while yes, there are many tragic stories out there and I agree with you on so many levels.... I just don't agree that someone trying to find a solution and seeking out assistance is wrong.
It can work, it does work and it should be HOW we rehome our pets. It should be the way you go about it - seek out rescues, talk to your friends and neighbors and make the right choices.
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SweetTooth
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Re: Rehomed pets...another point of view
Posted by leese
Posted by Goobster
Posted by dilb712
It may not be that first home he gets.. People may think they are finding a forever home.. Then something happens in that family!! Thats how they end up there too!! OMG
THIS IS MY POINT EXACTLY. Your pet, that you rehome, you may THINK has a good home...but things happen and time goes on and the pet you REHOMED may wind up being dumped....and wind up in this situation.
So to me, rehoming isn't fool proof when it comes to that animal's well being. The only way I could be sure my dogs are safe and treated well is WITH ME. Bottom line, so i am always hesitant when I see people freely and what appears without too much hesitancy giving their pets away, even if it appears to be going to a "good" home.
I understand what you are saying...but if you go to a reputable rescue organization then you can be assured that your pet will have a good home. Even if I could no longer care for my dog or something happened, my rescue organization would come in and take him back and rehome him properly.
I had to have a home visit, foster him for a while and keep them up to date. I had to sign a contract that I could never ever "get rid of him" without first contacting them. Meaning - I could be sued.
So, while yes, there are many tragic stories out there and I agree with you on so many levels.... I just don't agree that someone trying to find a solution and seeking out assistance is wrong.
It can work, it does work and it should be HOW we rehome our pets. It should be the way you go about it - seek out rescues, talk to your friends and neighbors and make the right choices.
You may have a purebred dog that can go to a rescue. But there are many people out there with mutts, or domestic shorthair cats, that cannot give their pets to a breed-specific rescue.
No-kill shelters can only take so many pets. So what happens when those shelters can't take the pet someone is looking to get rid of?
What happens to the pets who don't even bother to look into these options.
There are a few who when they decide to rehome a pet at least TRY to find a good home. But I assure you these people are the minority.
Most unwanted pets wind up dead, and that is the issue here. Some people have extenuating circumstances that require them to rehome a pet. But for the most part, people grow tired of the pet, don't want to deal with a behavior, etc.
That is what the people who become outraged over the rehoming posts are trying to stop.
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Goobster
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Re: Rehomed pets...another point of view
Posted by SweetTooth
Posted by leese
I understand what you are saying...but if you go to a reputable rescue organization then you can be assured that your pet will have a good home. Even if I could no longer care for my dog or something happened, my rescue organization would come in and take him back and rehome him properly.
I had to have a home visit, foster him for a while and keep them up to date. I had to sign a contract that I could never ever "get rid of him" without first contacting them. Meaning - I could be sued.
So, while yes, there are many tragic stories out there and I agree with you on so many levels.... I just don't agree that someone trying to find a solution and seeking out assistance is wrong.
It can work, it does work and it should be HOW we rehome our pets. It should be the way you go about it - seek out rescues, talk to your friends and neighbors and make the right choices.
You may have a purebred dog that can go to a rescue. But there are many people out there with mutts, or domestic shorthair cats, that cannot give their pets to a breed-specific rescue.
No-kill shelters can only take so many pets. So what happens when those shelters can't take the pet someone is looking to get rid of?
What happens to the pets who don't even bother to look into these options.
There are a few who when they decide to rehome a pet at least TRY to find a good home. But I assure you these people are the minority.
Most unwanted pets wind up dead, and that is the issue here. Some people have extenuating circumstances that require them to rehome a pet. But for the most part, people grow tired of the pet, don't want to deal with a behavior, etc.
That is what the people who become outraged over the rehoming posts are trying to stop.
Sweettooth, well said. That's my point. Most people giving away their pets aren't going to breed rescues, where the pet will be better protected for the future, etc. And even still, this is no guarantee.
Leese...for ex, look at what Ellen degeneres did. She was obligated to give the dog back and still took it upon herself to give the dog to a friend. We only found out about that b/c she is famous. How many times does that occur in the everyday world that the breed rescues/breeders never find out about? KWIM? Not like breeders or breed rescues will be checking in on that dog for life, kwim?
I am not saying in anyway it's wrong to find a solution or seek assistance. Of course I dont think that's wrong. What I think is wrong is making big mistakes such as taking on new pets, pets at the wrong time, buying pets when you have a few to care about already, etc...is wrong and unless we speak about this, people will continue to see it as ok to just give pets away b/c they don't want/can't deal with them anymore for whatever reason (money, time, energy, boredom, etc). I think just telling people (without getting into all these senarios) good luck and wishing them well is not doing anyone (or any animals) any justice and only placating this terrible type of situation. JMO
Look at the thread that started this. You actually had many people who thought it was just NO big deal that she wound up in this situation and that it was no big deal to find the dog a new home. That's a travesty IMO that cannot just be placated.
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Re: Rehomed pets...another point of view
While I applaud anyone who rehomes a pet, I still feel people like this are far and few.
I still believe that if a person isn't in for the long haul, than they shouldn't take on a pet.
Most of these poor animals that are "rehomed" don't end up with good families. Others never make it into homes again.
So while I think its great that there are people who are willing to rescue & give loving homes to unwanted pets, it makes me sick to my stomach that there are people who PUT these innocent creatures into these situations.
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Re: Rehomed pets...another point of view
Posted by leese
I understand what you are saying...but if you go to a reputable rescue organization then you can be assured that your pet will have a good home.
NOTHING will guarantee that the animal will be placed in a good home. I've seen it first hand.
Anyone can act a certain way in order to get approved to take at pet from a rescue group. A month later and the animal is no better than where they were previously.
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leese
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Re: Rehomed pets...another point of view
Posted by Beaver2be
Posted by leese
I understand what you are saying...but if you go to a reputable rescue organization then you can be assured that your pet will have a good home.
NOTHING will guarantee that the animal will be placed in a good home. I've seen it first hand.
Anyone can act a certain way in order to get approved to take at pet from a rescue group. A month later and the animal is no better than where they were previously.
Umm, I am someone who had to go through an extensive process to adopt their dog from a rescue group and can assure you I did not act one way and then another a month later. Thanks.
While I am sure you have first hand experience, my point is that you can go to a reputable group that will do follow-ups and take actions if the new owner is not living up to their standards. I have lived this in my own life, I am sharing my own experience from the other side.
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leese
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Re: Rehomed pets...another point of view
Posted by SweetTooth
Posted by leese
Posted by Goobster
Posted by dilb712
It may not be that first home he gets.. People may think they are finding a forever home.. Then something happens in that family!! Thats how they end up there too!! OMG
THIS IS MY POINT EXACTLY. Your pet, that you rehome, you may THINK has a good home...but things happen and time goes on and the pet you REHOMED may wind up being dumped....and wind up in this situation.
So to me, rehoming isn't fool proof when it comes to that animal's well being. The only way I could be sure my dogs are safe and treated well is WITH ME. Bottom line, so i am always hesitant when I see people freely and what appears without too much hesitancy giving their pets away, even if it appears to be going to a "good" home.
I understand what you are saying...but if you go to a reputable rescue organization then you can be assured that your pet will have a good home. Even if I could no longer care for my dog or something happened, my rescue organization would come in and take him back and rehome him properly.
I had to have a home visit, foster him for a while and keep them up to date. I had to sign a contract that I could never ever "get rid of him" without first contacting them. Meaning - I could be sued.
So, while yes, there are many tragic stories out there and I agree with you on so many levels.... I just don't agree that someone trying to find a solution and seeking out assistance is wrong.
It can work, it does work and it should be HOW we rehome our pets. It should be the way you go about it - seek out rescues, talk to your friends and neighbors and make the right choices.
You may have a purebred dog that can go to a rescue. But there are many people out there with mutts, or domestic shorthair cats, that cannot give their pets to a breed-specific rescue.
In the case of my rescue, while it is purebred, they do try to find homes for similar breeds (or mixed breeds) when they can. There are extensive connections out there so even if they are presented with a dog (say a yorkie mix) they will still try to find a good home or another rescue group (not all are purebreds) to help.
I get what you are all saying. I agree you should NOT get a dog if you can not care for it forever. But in the case that something happens I do not think it is wrong for someone to come on here, or contact a rescue group, or contact their friends to see what can be done.
The first comments out of the gate shouldn't be accusatory, it should be helpful and educating.
ETA: Goobster...and what you said is so right. Most people are not going to rescues. So that's the point of my posts. I'd like to educate people of where they can go rather than the pound to give their pet a better life.
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BriBri2u
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Re: Rehomed pets...another point of view
Posted by leese
Posted by Beaver2be
Posted by leese
I understand what you are saying...but if you go to a reputable rescue organization then you can be assured that your pet will have a good home.
NOTHING will guarantee that the animal will be placed in a good home. I've seen it first hand.
Anyone can act a certain way in order to get approved to take at pet from a rescue group. A month later and the animal is no better than where they were previously.
Umm, I am someone who had to go through an extensive process to adopt their dog from a rescue group and can assure you I did not act one way and then another a month later. Thanks.
While I am sure you have first hand experience, my point is that you can go to a reputable group that will do follow-ups and take actions if the new owner is not living up to their standards. I have lived this in my own life, I am sharing my own experience from the other side.
Thats you...than there are other people...the same people who think an animal is "soooo cute" when its a baby...not so much when its a year old or so.
My point is - that not all rescue groups will go this far. So for all the animals that don't end up in "these" recsue groups - they get the short end of the stick yet again.
Thats what I mean when I say - nothing is always a guarantee for these "rehomed" pets.
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leese
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Re: Rehomed pets...another point of view
Posted by Beaver2be
Thats you...than there are other people...the same people who think an animal is "soooo cute" when its a baby...not so much when its a year old or so.
My point is - that not all rescue groups will go this far. So for all the animals that don't end up in "these" recsue groups - they get the short end of the stick yet again.
Thats what I mean when I say - nothing is always a guarantee for these "rehomed" pets.
Understood now, but it was kind of a blanket statement there. I have to be honest, my experience has been fabulous and I have seen my rescue take back dogs and rehome over and over and over again. And I know a lot of other rescue groups who do the same...they are pretty strict!
My problem is the blanket statements that "nothing will guarantee" the dog won't be given a good home because I have yet to view that from where I stand. While I won't disagree that many dogs are left abandoned, I can't chastise someone for trying to do their best in their situation.
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Re: Rehomed pets...another point of view
Posted by leese
While I won't disagree that many dogs are left abandoned, I can't chastise someone for trying to do their best in their situation.
I guess it depends on what you see as best.
I think in this said case, a breed rescue WOULD be the best way to go. B/c they will do a LOT more research and care in finding a FOREVER match. Just coming on LIF and asking if anyone wants to adopt a dog to me is not of the same magnitude and security, for that dog's future, kwim? Better than a pound or on the street or dead, YES< but breed rescue is the best way to go for a purebreed's best chances at the RIGHT FOREVER family.
Exhaust all options, sure. But I dont know, the whole way teh thread started just seemed without much heart for the dog, like an object, without any sadness about having to give away your pet. Maybe I am reading into it...but thats just the way I interpreted it and it highly upset me.
If I had to rehome my dog...and I came on here...my post would be probably an essay...not just some blunt statement about anyone want my dog, I will send you pics.
This is very upsetting to me to see a family pet given away like that. JMO. I cant keep my heart out of this.
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Re: Rehomed pets...another point of view
There's another terrible situation that comes about with adopted dogs.
Someone I know works for a rescue (outside of NY) and she does phone interviews and sets up home inspections before the animal goes to the home.
She told a story that this one guy who had checked out but when she said she wanted to setup an appt to visit his home, he said he'd call her back and never did.
Not 2 months later, she heard his address on the news and remembered it. Turns out, the guy was collecting animals from shelters for running dog fighting rings. They need non aggressive dogs for the fighters to practice on. So basically, these poor dogs are being used for bait.
We like to think that all dogs that leave shelters and rescues go on to lead happy fulfilled lives. It's not always the case. Which is why I am 100% behind rescues that make you WORK to adopt an animal. Those who are in it for the long haul, for the good of the animal, shouldn't mind a few hoop jumps to bring it home for good.
I wanted to add - some breed specific rescues will take mixes, at least the one I'm looking at does. If it's a Lab mix but it's obvious it's more Lab than anything else, they will pull it from a shelter and foster it.
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leese
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Re: Rehomed pets...another point of view
Posted by Goobster
Posted by leese
While I won't disagree that many dogs are left abandoned, I can't chastise someone for trying to do their best in their situation.
I guess it depends on what you see as best.
I think in this said case, a breed rescue WOULD be the best way to go. B/c they will do a LOT more research and care in finding a FOREVER match. Just coming on LIF and asking if anyone wants to adopt a dog to me is not of the same magnitude and security, for that dog's future, kwim? Better than a pound or on the street or dead, YES< but breed rescue is the best way to go for a purebreed's best chances at the RIGHT FOREVER family.
But that's the point. She came on and asked ... and I immediately (because I know the breed well having an english bully) sent her an FM letting her know that if she needed help placing him, I could assist. How is that bad?
I think you know how long I searched, how much research I did, and what I have gone through to give Sarge the best life. He was sick, underweight - it was clear he at least being abused by not being brought to a vet and put on a cheap medication. But now he is chunky and happy and wonderful.
So yeah, from where I sit, I see what they did as the best thing for them. Is this always the case? No. I'm not a matyr though, I am one person like many who found out about rescues and went that route. And I hope others do the same....either way.
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Re: Rehomed pets...another point of view
Posted by leese
But that's the point. She came on and asked ... and I immediately (because I know the breed well having an english bully) sent her an FM letting her know that if she needed help placing him, I could assist. How is that bad?
I think you know how long I searched, how much research I did, and what I have gone through to give Sarge the best life. He was sick, underweight - it was clear he at least being abused by not being brought to a vet and put on a cheap medication. But now he is chunky and happy and wonderful.
So yeah, from where I sit, I see what they did as the best thing for them. Is this always the case? No. I'm not a matyr though, I am one person like many who found out about rescues and went that route. And I hope others do the same....either way.
All I can say to that is yes, I am so glad you contacted her. If anything comes of this, I hope it's something from your contacting her. You are wonderful, I know what you did for Sarge...i hope you can assist her in helping put this dog in a forever wonderful home.
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