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Re: Question about guns in the home

Posted by Kitten1929

My husband is a gun hobbyist. He enjoys building them and going to the range. If anything, it's a passing phase that he isn't really into anymore, but we have them. Locked in a safe that my child has never seen nor has access to in a part of the house he has never been to, with a fingerprint scan AND lock on the door to the room. He does not take the guns out to show people when children are around AT ALL. I am confident that children are safe in my home despite the presence of firearms.



Same. DD doesn't even know the exist. Nor could she access them.

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We are not yet at the age of dropoff playdates but when that time comes I will ask if there are guns in the home, and if so how/where they are stored. We read a similar article last year encouraging parents to ask, and when we visited my ILs for the holidays DH asked my FIL to make sure his guns were all locked up and asked where they were located. FIL gave him an attitude about it but DH made it clear he meant business. There are so many people who are careless with their guns and don't secure them properly (my BIL included -- he keeps a loaded handgun in his nightstand drawer and SIL watches her DD and her nephew in their home) and every day its a few more stories about kids shooting themselves or other people with unsecured weapons. I read of 2 yesterday alone. It's a real concern and I have 2 young curious boys. Anyone who would give me a problem about asking is not someone I would want to associate with so I dont mind if me asking causes backlash

Posted 4/28/16 2:55 PM
 

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Re: Question about guns in the home

Here is my question:

For those of you who have firearms in the house, would you disclose that you did if a parent asked? And would you be truthful with whether they were accessible?

Posted 4/28/16 4:26 PM
 

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Re: Question about guns in the home

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Here is my question:

For those of you who have firearms in the house, would you disclose that you did if a parent asked? And would you be truthful with whether they were accessible?



I absolutely would be truthful that we have them.

Posted 4/28/16 6:09 PM
 

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Re: Question about guns in the home

Posted by SecretTTCer

Here is my question:

For those of you who have firearms in the house, would you disclose that you did if a parent asked? And would you be truthful with whether they were accessible?



Absolutely

Posted 4/28/16 7:26 PM
 

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Question about guns in the home

I don't think I'd ever drop dd off at anyone's house if I:

hadn't visited the house myself multiple times
didn't know the parents well
trust the parents' judgement

That being said, while we do not have guns in the house, I would have no issue with dd going to a house with appropriately, responsibly stored firearms.

Posted 4/28/16 9:26 PM
 

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Re: Question about guns in the home

I always ask and always will! My dh and I are both very anti gun and wouldn't allow our child to play at someones home who had a firearm who wasn't law enforcement. I'd rather have play dates at my house where I know its safe and gun free!

Posted 4/28/16 10:42 PM
 

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Re: Question about guns in the home

I would probably not think of asking. I grew up in a home with a gun. My dad stored the bullets and gun separately. The gun was not in a safe, but was in an area that children could not access.

I will say I have first hand knowledge of what can go wrong though. My former student shot and killed his friend when he was 7th grade. It destroyed both families. The boy (now an 11th grader) is the sweetest kid, but it has definitely affected him. Chat Icon

Posted 4/29/16 6:12 AM
 

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Re: Question about guns in the home

Posted by ElizaRags35

Kids are observant. How many kids pick up on their parents iphone passwords. I definitely plan on asking and even after finding, I still don't know if I'd allow my kids to go to someone's house without me if there was a gun. Call me paranoid but a kid is accidentally shot or shoots someone every day. I'm not taking any chances. I felt this way before the Grey's episode and even more so after.



My three year old remembered my au pairs iPhone passcode months after my au pair told it to her ONCE!We were shocked. That's why I don't trust the four digit safes. Any kid over 5 just watching once might remember it.

Posted 4/29/16 7:48 AM
 

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Re: Question about guns in the home

My bill is a cop and my kids don't even know about the gun. When he lived at home it was Nina safe in his room, again rhey never knew.

We don't have imprimatur house and I've never been asked or have asked anyone. But wouldn't be offeneded if anyone asked me.

Posted 4/29/16 9:43 AM
 

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Re: Question about guns in the home

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Posted by ElizaRags35

Kids are observant. How many kids pick up on their parents iphone passwords. I definitely plan on asking and even after finding, I still don't know if I'd allow my kids to go to someone's house without me if there was a gun. Call me paranoid but a kid is accidentally shot or shoots someone every day. I'm not taking any chances. I felt this way before the Grey's episode and even more so after.



My three year old remembered my au pairs iPhone passcode months after my au pair told it to her ONCE!We were shocked. That's why I don't trust the four digit safes. Any kid over 5 just watching once might remember it.



Hence why we never access the safe when DD is around.
Actually we never really touch the guns. He's retired now, and he never really touches them. They just stay locked up. I suppose he could get rid of them, but for now they stay locked up.

Posted 4/29/16 9:49 AM
 

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Re: Question about guns in the home

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Here is my question:

For those of you who have firearms in the house, would you disclose that you did if a parent asked? And would you be truthful with whether they were accessible?



Yes I would. I have nothing to hide.
I think my pool actually poses more of a safety risk than the guns to be honest.

Message edited 4/29/2016 10:20:05 AM.

Posted 4/29/16 9:50 AM
 

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Re: Question about guns in the home

We haven't really had drop off play dates yet so it hasn't been an issue yet.

We do have guns in the house, however they are locked in gun safes with both fingerprint and combination locks and DS has no idea where the safes are. We own for protection, hunting, and range shooting.

For the poster that asked about being able to get to the gun in a timely manner if someone broke in...yes, an owner that properly knows how to use a gun can quickly do this. We keep a small handgun in a small gun safe in the bedroom. It takes literally 2 seconds to open via fingerprint and the clip is stored close by. It would take less than 20 seconds in total for one of us to get the gun out of the safe and load the clip in the event of an emergency. That's upstairs. We also have a gun safe downstairs (way too large to physically move) that we could access if we were downstairs at the time of a break in.

Posted 4/29/16 10:16 AM
 

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Re: Question about guns in the home

Posted by mnmsoinlove

I always ask and always will! My dh and I are both very anti gun and wouldn't allow our child to play at someones home who had a firearm who wasn't law enforcement. I'd rather have play dates at my house where I know its safe and gun free!



I dislike the implication that someone's home is "unsafe" because they have a firearm. How can a child come into my home, go into my _____. open _____, unlock the numerical code-lock, and use their fingerprint scan to open the safe? If you know the person, and know the precautions they take, how can that be unsafe?

Think about all of the unsafe, potentially lethal things that people leave out at their homes all day long - knives on the counter, candles, batteries, un-gated stairs, small objects, chemical products...

ETA: Yes I would disclose that we had a firearm to other parents.

Message edited 4/29/2016 10:22:44 AM.

Posted 4/29/16 10:21 AM
 

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Question about guns in the home

I ask about guns and pets before my kids play at a new house - if they say yes to either, I ask where the guns are kept and I ask to meet the pets with my children before they play there.

Posted 4/29/16 10:28 AM
 

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Re: Question about guns in the home

Posted by Ian&EmmesMommy23

honest question cause i never understood this....

for those who have guns in a locked safe and not loaded...lets say you get robbed or someone breaks in...is it realistic that you'll get to the safe, unlock it and load it in time?



I asked this once and was told I should never own I gun - lol. I guess it's a bad question, still not sure why. I feel the same as you - lol

Posted 4/29/16 10:30 AM
 

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Re: Question about guns in the home

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Posted by mnmsoinlove

I always ask and always will! My dh and I are both very anti gun and wouldn't allow our child to play at someones home who had a firearm who wasn't law enforcement. I'd rather have play dates at my house where I know its safe and gun free!



I dislike the implication that someone's home is "unsafe" because they have a firearm. How can a child come into my home, go into my _____. open _____, unlock the numerical code-lock, and use their fingerprint scan to open the safe? If you know the person, and know the precautions they take, how can that be unsafe?

Think about all of the unsafe, potentially lethal things that people leave out at their homes all day long - knives on the counter, candles, batteries, un-gated stairs, small objects, chemical products...

ETA: Yes I would disclose that we had a firearm to other parents.



Exactly. Like I mentioned before..what about a house with a pool? That is VERY VERY dangerous. Would you not let your child play at a house with a pool?
I feel my pool is MUCH more of a safety risk than the locked up, well hidden guns that nobody even knows about.

Posted 4/29/16 10:52 AM
 

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Re: Question about guns in the home

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Posted by Ian&EmmesMommy23

honest question cause i never understood this....

for those who have guns in a locked safe and not loaded...lets say you get robbed or someone breaks in...is it realistic that you'll get to the safe, unlock it and load it in time?



I asked this once and was told I should never own I gun - lol. I guess it's a bad question, still not sure why. I feel the same as you - lol



Most people who own guns for protection purposes, not only know how to get to them and load them quickly, but also have a plan in place for if someone were to break in. For example, DH and I have practiced numerous times and have a plan in place for what to do if someone were to break in - including how to get to the gun and load it (for this reason, we own several safes on two levels of the house), how to get the kids quickly and quietly, where to hide, when to call 911, and where to shoot should the intruder actually get to the room we are in. Owning a gun for protection goes much farther than just putting it in a safe and hoping you can get to it on time. Also, a gun owner needs to be very confident in their ability to load and shoot their weapon. Most gun owners are extremely familiar with their gun and have loaded and unloaded it more times than they can count. It's like second nature to them and have probably spent many hours at a range. But as I mentioned in my earlier post, even if you store your gun without the clip, the clip is generally very close by. For an experienced gun owner, it takes all of 20 seconds to open a fingerprinted safe, grab the gun, and load the clip.

Posted 4/29/16 11:11 AM
 

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Re: Question about guns in the home

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Posted by Ian&EmmesMommy23

honest question cause i never understood this....

for those who have guns in a locked safe and not loaded...lets say you get robbed or someone breaks in...is it realistic that you'll get to the safe, unlock it and load it in time?



I asked this once and was told I should never own I gun - lol. I guess it's a bad question, still not sure why. I feel the same as you - lol



Most people who own guns for protection purposes, not only know how to get to them and load them quickly, but also have a plan in place for if someone were to break in. For example, DH and I have practiced numerous times and have a plan in place for what to do if someone were to break in - including how to get to the gun and load it (for this reason, we own several safes on two levels of the house), how to get the kids quickly and quietly, where to hide, when to call 911, and where to shoot should the intruder actually get to the room we are in. Owning a gun for protection goes much farther than just putting it in a safe and hoping you can get to it on time. Also, a gun owner needs to be very confident in their ability to load and shoot their weapon. Most gun owners are extremely familiar with their gun and have loaded and unloaded it more times than they can count. It's like second nature to them and have probably spent many hours at a range. But as I mentioned in my earlier post, even if you store your gun without the clip, the clip is generally very close by. For an experienced gun owner, it takes all of 20 seconds to open a fingerprinted safe, grab the gun, and load the clip.



Yes agree, especially for those who are or were in law enforcement. It's second nature to them because their lives depend on it at work and they are highly trained.

Posted 4/29/16 11:14 AM
 

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Re: Question about guns in the home

To answer some of the questions posed:

1) We own them because we're hobbyists & like to shoot.

2) We never considered them for protection. If we're being robbed, we would not even attempt to get the guns. If you introduce a gun into a situation like that, you'd better be prepared for it to possibly be used on you or your family. We're not trained in law enforcement, so that's a definitely NO WAY for us.

3) We no longer keep them in our home (when we had our second ds we needed the bedroom where we stored them, so we moved them to my dad's house/safe for the next few years), but if we did I would absolutely tell anyone that asked that we had them in the home.

I have to admit that I've never asked when dropping my son off for a play date, but there's only one friend's house where he goes. I'm going to ask his mother the next time that we do. We have started training our oldest (6 1/2) in gun safety already. He's learned to always regard a gun as loaded (even if he's told that it's not), never to point them at anyone even if he's just playing and to run/get an adult if a friend ever pulls one out to look at or play with. He knows that there's no negotiating on this, but that being said, he's 6 - so we go over it frequently. If we're discussing stranger danger or fire safety, we're also discussing gun safety.

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Posted 4/29/16 11:33 AM
 

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Re: Question about guns in the home

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Posted by momtimes2

Posted by Ian&EmmesMommy23

honest question cause i never understood this....

for those who have guns in a locked safe and not loaded...lets say you get robbed or someone breaks in...is it realistic that you'll get to the safe, unlock it and load it in time?



I asked this once and was told I should never own I gun - lol. I guess it's a bad question, still not sure why. I feel the same as you - lol



Most people who own guns for protection purposes, not only know how to get to them and load them quickly, but also have a plan in place for if someone were to break in. For example, DH and I have practiced numerous times and have a plan in place for what to do if someone were to break in - including how to get to the gun and load it (for this reason, we own several safes on two levels of the house), how to get the kids quickly and quietly, where to hide, when to call 911, and where to shoot should the intruder actually get to the room we are in. Owning a gun for protection goes much farther than just putting it in a safe and hoping you can get to it on time. Also, a gun owner needs to be very confident in their ability to load and shoot their weapon. Most gun owners are extremely familiar with their gun and have loaded and unloaded it more times than they can count. It's like second nature to them and have probably spent many hours at a range. But as I mentioned in my earlier post, even if you store your gun without the clip, the clip is generally very close by. For an experienced gun owner, it takes all of 20 seconds to open a fingerprinted safe, grab the gun, and load the clip.



Thank you for being such a responsible gun owner. I really wish this mentality would be taught to all gun owners. There are too many tragic stories that make it seem like what you and your family do is not the norm and this is what makes me so nervous.

Posted 4/29/16 4:37 PM
 

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Re: Question about guns in the home

My husband is a hobbyist and likes to go to the range and wants to start hunting. We have several guns - all locked up in safes. Honestly, I dont even know how to get into the safes. My children haven't showed much interest. If someone asked if we had them, I would tell them we do. I wouldn't go around showing them where they are kept though.

Posted 4/29/16 8:59 PM
 

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Re: Question about guns in the home

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Posted by momtimes2

Posted by Ian&EmmesMommy23

honest question cause i never understood this....

for those who have guns in a locked safe and not loaded...lets say you get robbed or someone breaks in...is it realistic that you'll get to the safe, unlock it and load it in time?



I asked this once and was told I should never own I gun - lol. I guess it's a bad question, still not sure why. I feel the same as you - lol



Most people who own guns for protection purposes, not only know how to get to them and load them quickly, but also have a plan in place for if someone were to break in. For example, DH and I have practiced numerous times and have a plan in place for what to do if someone were to break in - including how to get to the gun and load it (for this reason, we own several safes on two levels of the house), how to get the kids quickly and quietly, where to hide, when to call 911, and where to shoot should the intruder actually get to the room we are in. Owning a gun for protection goes much farther than just putting it in a safe and hoping you can get to it on time. Also, a gun owner needs to be very confident in their ability to load and shoot their weapon. Most gun owners are extremely familiar with their gun and have loaded and unloaded it more times than they can count. It's like second nature to them and have probably spent many hours at a range. But as I mentioned in my earlier post, even if you store your gun without the clip, the clip is generally very close by. For an experienced gun owner, it takes all of 20 seconds to open a fingerprinted safe, grab the gun, and load the clip.



this makes sense! thanks for explaining it! i hope everyone else who owns a gun follows the same practice.

Posted 5/4/16 12:15 PM
 

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Re: Question about guns in the home

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Posted by Kitten1929

Posted by mnmsoinlove

I always ask and always will! My dh and I are both very anti gun and wouldn't allow our child to play at someones home who had a firearm who wasn't law enforcement. I'd rather have play dates at my house where I know its safe and gun free!



I dislike the implication that someone's home is "unsafe" because they have a firearm. How can a child come into my home, go into my _____. open _____, unlock the numerical code-lock, and use their fingerprint scan to open the safe? If you know the person, and know the precautions they take, how can that be unsafe?

Think about all of the unsafe, potentially lethal things that people leave out at their homes all day long - knives on the counter, candles, batteries, un-gated stairs, small objects, chemical products...

ETA: Yes I would disclose that we had a firearm to other parents.



Exactly. Like I mentioned before..what about a house with a pool? That is VERY VERY dangerous. Would you not let your child play at a house with a pool?
I feel my pool is MUCH more of a safety risk than the locked up, well hidden guns that nobody even knows about.



I actually don't let my DD have unsupervised playdates at houses with pools, or attend drop off pool parties.
ETA: Or houses with large dogs

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Posted 5/4/16 1:05 PM
 

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Question about guns in the home

Do I ask? No.
Do I think of it? Nope
Do people ask me? Nope
If they did would I say I did? Yeah I guess, If I remembered. Mine aren't guns they are rifles
Why do I have them? They were my father's. I was holding them for him when he moved, he died. They stayed. They are not 'locked' away. They are safe. They are unloaded, wrapped, packed and up high. I often forget about them. I can't reach them. There is no ammo for them in my house.

I don't believe having guns make a house dangerous

I think having dangerous people makes a house dangerous.

I think kids ALWAYS get at things they are allowed to get at, period. My almost 8yr old has no access to my ipad. She wants to see something she has to ask me to unlock it. STILL. All her friends think that's odd. I don't care. She doesn't know the password. She tried to catch it once. I restricted the ipad use for a full day because she tried. Her friends tried to figure out my password and locked it, I took it away for the rest of the visit. passwords/locks/codes are for a reason. She doesn't know the passcode for our house alarm either.

She can't text on my phone, though her friends all do on their mother's phones. She wouldn't even know how to get to the message option or how to find her friends' mothers names. She's my kid. My job is to keep her safe, not give her access to everything in my home.

She doesn't even have kid youtube or whatever that thing is called.

I grew up with guns in the house and NEVER touched them or wanted to. It's education and respect


ETA: children who come over are never allowed in the room with the rifles because it would be awkward. They are in the living room, dining room, her room, backyard, kitchen. No need to get all the house. Sheesh!

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