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inhiding08
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probably getting a head of myself.
i've been unemployeed for about 3weeks. and i desprately need to work. and have a job interview next week. im freaking out that if i get the job then tell them in a few short months that im pregnant that they will fire me!
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Re: probably getting a head of myself.
Yes, they might, and you also wont be covered under FMLA for not working there long enough before maternity leave. But, what other choice is there other than being unemployed for 9 months? Good luck! 
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Re: probably getting a head of myself.
Posted by nov04libride
Yes, they might, and you also might not be covered under FMLA for not working there long enough before maternity leave. But, what other choice is there other than being unemployed for 9 months? Good luck!
You won't be covered for FMLA because you have to work there for a year to qualify
But I guess if they fired you at that point, you could get unemployment!
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Re: probably getting a head of myself.
Posted by KateDevine
Posted by nov04libride
Yes, they might, and you also might not be covered under FMLA for not working there long enough before maternity leave. But, what other choice is there other than being unemployed for 9 months? Good luck!
You won't be covered for FMLA because you have to work there for a year to qualify
But I guess if they fired you at that point, you could get unemployment!
Isnt it illegal for someone to fire you JUST because you were preggo?
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inhiding08
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Re: probably getting a head of myself.
thanks ladies... i really just need to work now upuntill i cant any more so that we can move out of our tiny tiny 1 bedroom apt. and get out of debt. im not so much worried about the leave.
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nov04libride
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Re: probably getting a head of myself.
Posted by 05mommy09
Posted by KateDevine
Posted by nov04libride
Yes, they might, and you also might not be covered under FMLA for not working there long enough before maternity leave. But, what other choice is there other than being unemployed for 9 months? Good luck!
You won't be covered for FMLA because you have to work there for a year to qualify
But I guess if they fired you at that point, you could get unemployment!
Isnt it illegal for someone to fire you JUST because you were preggo?
Technically, yes, but at my job we can fire anyone for any reason within the first year. We actually don't even legally have to give a reason, and HR recommends that you give no reason so that the person cannot sue.
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nov04libride
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Re: probably getting a head of myself.
Posted by inhiding08
thanks ladies... i really just need to work now upuntill i cant any more so that we can move out of our tiny tiny 1 bedroom apt. and get out of debt. im not so much worried about the leave.
I'll be honest; you may not have any choice, but my job has had to be flexible with me having morning sickness and leaving for doctor appointments. I cannot imagine starting a new job while facing all of this. I have literally ran out of meetings because I felt so sick, so I told my boss early on. Luckily he is very understanding, but if I was new, and didn't explain the crazy behavior, I am sure it would be a different story.
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inhiding08
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Re: probably getting a head of myself.
Posted by nov04libride
Posted by inhiding08
thanks ladies... i really just need to work now upuntill i cant any more so that we can move out of our tiny tiny 1 bedroom apt. and get out of debt. im not so much worried about the leave.
I'll be honest; you may not have any choice, but my job has had to be flexible with me having morning sickness and leaving for doctor appointments. I cannot imagine starting a new job while facing all of this. I have literally ran out of meetings because I felt so sick, so I told my boss early on. Luckily he is very understanding, but if I was new, and didn't explain the crazy behavior, I am sure it would be a different story.
thanks for being honest. but i dont think we will be able to survive with out me working.
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Re: probably getting a head of myself.
Posted by nov04libride
Posted by 05mommy09
Posted by KateDevine
Posted by nov04libride
Yes, they might, and you also might not be covered under FMLA for not working there long enough before maternity leave. But, what other choice is there other than being unemployed for 9 months? Good luck!
You won't be covered for FMLA because you have to work there for a year to qualify
But I guess if they fired you at that point, you could get unemployment!
Isnt it illegal for someone to fire you JUST because you were preggo?
Technically, yes, but at my job we can fire anyone for any reason within the first year. We actually don't even legally have to give a reason, and HR recommends that you give no reason so that the person can
not sue.
I hear ya'- but I mean if she felt it was because of her pregnancy and could prove that up until that point she had never been spoken to about poor workmanship and they clearly replaced her (therefore it was financial reasons)
Wouldnt she have a case????
Im just curious...
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05mommy09
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Re: probably getting a head of myself.
Posted by inhiding08
Posted by nov04libride
Posted by inhiding08
thanks ladies... i really just need to work now upuntill i cant any more so that we can move out of our tiny tiny 1 bedroom apt. and get out of debt. im not so much worried about the leave.
I'll be honest; you may not have any choice, but my job has had to be flexible with me having morning sickness and leaving for doctor appointments. I cannot imagine starting a new job while facing all of this. I have literally ran out of meetings because I felt so sick, so I told my boss early on. Luckily he is very understanding, but if I was new, and didn't explain the crazy behavior, I am sure it would be a different story.
thanks for being honest. but i dont think we will be able to survive with out me working.
Hopefully you'll have a GREAT 1st trimester and no one will even know.
I have had NO m/s- you would never KNOW Im pregnant.
I schedule my apts at night- so that makes things very easy for me.
My boss doesn't know and wont know until 12 weeks.
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Re: probably getting a head of myself.
Posted by 05mommy09
Posted by nov04libride
Posted by 05mommy09
Posted by KateDevine
Posted by nov04libride
Yes, they might, and you also might not be covered under FMLA for not working there long enough before maternity leave. But, what other choice is there other than being unemployed for 9 months? Good luck!
You won't be covered for FMLA because you have to work there for a year to qualify
But I guess if they fired you at that point, you could get unemployment!
Isnt it illegal for someone to fire you JUST because you were preggo?
Technically, yes, but at my job we can fire anyone for any reason within the first year. We actually don't even legally have to give a reason, and HR recommends that you give no reason so that the person can
not sue.
I hear ya'- but I mean if she felt it was because of her pregnancy and could prove that up until that point she had never been spoken to about poor workmanship and they clearly replaced her (therefore it was financial reasons)
Wouldnt she have a case????
Im just curious...
No--the contract where I work (for the state, by the way) says you can be let go at any point during the first year, with no reason given. They can give some BS excuse like reorganization, blah, blah, but you wouldn't have a case, even if it was due to PG. During the first year they don't have to go through the channels of documenting poor performance/tardiness, etc. It's a way of streamlining that process when you see any signs of poor behavior.
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inhiding08
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Re: probably getting a head of myself.
i do understand where you are coming from. i'm in health care and honestly dont know if thats what goes on. im a new nurse and not sure how things work except i know theres usually a 60 day probation period.
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nov04libride
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Re: probably getting a head of myself.
Posted by 05mommy09
Posted by inhiding08
Posted by nov04libride
Posted by inhiding08
thanks ladies... i really just need to work now upuntill i cant any more so that we can move out of our tiny tiny 1 bedroom apt. and get out of debt. im not so much worried about the leave.
I'll be honest; you may not have any choice, but my job has had to be flexible with me having morning sickness and leaving for doctor appointments. I cannot imagine starting a new job while facing all of this. I have literally ran out of meetings because I felt so sick, so I told my boss early on. Luckily he is very understanding, but if I was new, and didn't explain the crazy behavior, I am sure it would be a different story.
thanks for being honest. but i dont think we will be able to survive with out me working.
Hopefully you'll have a GREAT 1st trimester and no one will even know.
I have had NO m/s- you would never KNOW Im pregnant.
I schedule my apts at night- so that makes things very easy for me.
My boss doesn't know and wont know until 12 weeks.
Of course I hope you don't feel any symptoms! I didn't mean to sound pessimistic; I am just feeling pretty sick myself this week so it's hard to imagine not feeling bad. 
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Re: probably getting a head of myself.
Posted by nov04libride
Posted by 05mommy09
Posted by nov04libride
Posted by 05mommy09
Posted by KateDevine
Posted by nov04libride
Yes, they might, and you also might not be covered under FMLA for not working there long enough before maternity leave. But, what other choice is there other than being unemployed for 9 months? Good luck!
You won't be covered for FMLA because you have to work there for a year to qualify
But I guess if they fired you at that point, you could get unemployment!
Isnt it illegal for someone to fire you JUST because you were preggo?
Technically, yes, but at my job we can fire anyone for any reason within the first year. We actually don't even legally have to give a reason, and HR recommends that you give no reason so that the person can
not sue.
I hear ya'- but I mean if she felt it was because of her pregnancy and could prove that up until that point she had never been spoken to about poor workmanship and they clearly replaced her (therefore it was financial reasons)
Wouldnt she have a case????
Im just curious...
No--the contract where I work (for the state, by the way) says you can be let go at any point during the first year, with no reason given. They can give some BS excuse like reorganization, blah, blah, but you wouldn't have a case, even if it was due to PG. During the first year they don't have to go through the channels of documenting poor performance/tardiness, etc. It's a way of streamlining that process when you see any signs of poor behavior.
Gotcha- so how does those who get fired for pregnancy even have a case...
Why did I think this was illegal...
I mean- Ive been at my job for 18 months. I was the 1st employee, there before the school even opened.
When I tell my boss, she can decide that she no longer wants me working there, and thats it???
I have all HIGH scores on my performance reviews, and have rec'd several raises to the highest percentage given.
As far as I know- at my job we dont NEED a reason to fire you either...
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Re: probably getting a head of myself.
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Posted by nov04libride
Yes, they might, and you also might not be covered under FMLA for not working there long enough before maternity leave. But, what other choice is there other than being unemployed for 9 months? Good luck!
You won't be covered for FMLA because you have to work there for a year to qualify
But I guess if they fired you at that point, you could get unemployment!
Ohhh, I didn't mean to do it on PURPOSE, just if it happened, KWIM?
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| Posted 11/11/08 7:08 PM |
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inhiding08
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Re: probably getting a head of myself.
Posted by nov04libride
Posted by 05mommy09
Posted by inhiding08
Posted by nov04libride
Posted by inhiding08
thanks ladies... i really just need to work now upuntill i cant any more so that we can move out of our tiny tiny 1 bedroom apt. and get out of debt. im not so much worried about the leave.
I'll be honest; you may not have any choice, but my job has had to be flexible with me having morning sickness and leaving for doctor appointments. I cannot imagine starting a new job while facing all of this. I have literally ran out of meetings because I felt so sick, so I told my boss early on. Luckily he is very understanding, but if I was new, and didn't explain the crazy behavior, I am sure it would be a different story.
thanks for being honest. but i dont think we will be able to survive with out me working.
Hopefully you'll have a GREAT 1st trimester and no one will even know.
I have had NO m/s- you would never KNOW Im pregnant.
I schedule my apts at night- so that makes things very easy for me.
My boss doesn't know and wont know until 12 weeks.
Of course I hope you don't feel any symptoms! I didn't mean to sound pessimistic; I am just feeling pretty sick myself this week so it's hard to imagine not feeling bad.
thats ok i understand. i just felt a little sick today when i smelt some greasey food. but other then that i feel great. but who knows whats in for me.
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Re: probably getting a head of myself.
Posted by 05mommy09
Posted by nov04libride
Posted by 05mommy09
Posted by nov04libride
Posted by 05mommy09
Posted by KateDevine
Posted by nov04libride
Yes, they might, and you also might not be covered under FMLA for not working there long enough before maternity leave. But, what other choice is there other than being unemployed for 9 months? Good luck!
You won't be covered for FMLA because you have to work there for a year to qualify
But I guess if they fired you at that point, you could get unemployment!
Isnt it illegal for someone to fire you JUST because you were preggo?
Technically, yes, but at my job we can fire anyone for any reason within the first year. We actually don't even legally have to give a reason, and HR recommends that you give no reason so that the person can
not sue.
I hear ya'- but I mean if she felt it was because of her pregnancy and could prove that up until that point she had never been spoken to about poor workmanship and they clearly replaced her (therefore it was financial reasons)
Wouldnt she have a case????
Im just curious...
No--the contract where I work (for the state, by the way) says you can be let go at any point during the first year, with no reason given. They can give some BS excuse like reorganization, blah, blah, but you wouldn't have a case, even if it was due to PG. During the first year they don't have to go through the channels of documenting poor performance/tardiness, etc. It's a way of streamlining that process when you see any signs of poor behavior.
Gotcha- so how does those who get fired for pregnancy even have a case...
Why did I think this was illegal...
I mean- Ive been at my job for 18 months. I was the 1st employee, there before the school even opened.
When I tell my boss, she can decide that she no longer wants me working there, and thats it???
I have all HIGH scores on my performance reviews, and have rec'd several raises to the highest percentage given.
As far as I know- at my job we dont NEED a reason to fire you either...
NY is at At Will state, they can terminate you at any time.
I got fired at 38 weeks pregnant and everyone told me to file a suit against them. As it was a small company, and they never had performance reviews, and i had never had any warnings, I decided against it.
But I believe that if you got fired at this point, you could prove it.
Sorry for the hijack
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Re: probably getting a head of myself.
Posted by 05mommy09
Gotcha- so how does those who get fired for pregnancy even have a case...
Why did I think this was illegal...
I mean- Ive been at my job for 18 months. I was the 1st employee, there before the school even opened.
When I tell my boss, she can decide that she no longer wants me working there, and thats it???
I have all HIGH scores on my performance reviews, and have rec'd several raises to the highest percentage given.
As far as I know- at my job we dont NEED a reason to fire you either...
Since you've been there longer, you have more of a leg to stand on. It is illegal to discriminate for being pregnant, yes, plus you have good reviews to back yourself up. But in a situation where they don't have to give a reason (that my contract lays out for the first year), you can't really argue discrimination because it could be another reason, since they don't give a reason. And at that point there are no performance reviews.
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Re: probably getting a head of myself.
Posted by KateDevine
Posted by 05mommy09
Posted by nov04libride
Posted by 05mommy09
Posted by nov04libride
Posted by 05mommy09
Posted by KateDevine
Posted by nov04libride
Yes, they might, and you also might not be covered under FMLA for not working there long enough before maternity leave. But, what other choice is there other than being unemployed for 9 months? Good luck!
You won't be covered for FMLA because you have to work there for a year to qualify
But I guess if they fired you at that point, you could get unemployment!
Isnt it illegal for someone to fire you JUST because you were preggo?
Technically, yes, but at my job we can fire anyone for any reason within the first year. We actually don't even legally have to give a reason, and HR recommends that you give no reason so that the person can
not sue.
I hear ya'- but I mean if she felt it was because of her pregnancy and could prove that up until that point she had never been spoken to about poor workmanship and they clearly replaced her (therefore it was financial reasons)
Wouldnt she have a case????
Im just curious...
No--the contract where I work (for the state, by the way) says you can be let go at any point during the first year, with no reason given. They can give some BS excuse like reorganization, blah, blah, but you wouldn't have a case, even if it was due to PG. During the first year they don't have to go through the channels of documenting poor performance/tardiness, etc. It's a way of streamlining that process when you see any signs of poor behavior.
Gotcha- so how does those who get fired for pregnancy even have a case...
Why did I think this was illegal...
I mean- Ive been at my job for 18 months. I was the 1st employee, there before the school even opened.
When I tell my boss, she can decide that she no longer wants me working there, and thats it???
I have all HIGH scores on my performance reviews, and have rec'd several raises to the highest percentage given.
As far as I know- at my job we dont NEED a reason to fire you either...
NY is at At Will state, they can terminate you at any time.
I got fired at 38 weeks pregnant and everyone told me to file a suit against them. As it was a small company, and they never had performance reviews, and i had never had any warnings, I decided against it.
But I believe that if you got fired at this point, you could prove it.
Sorry for the hijack
Soooo basically it IS ILLEGAL to fire someone due to pregnancy but it IMPOSSIBLE to prove...???
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nov04libride
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Re: probably getting a head of myself.
Posted by 05mommy09
Soooo basically it IS ILLEGAL to fire someone due to pregnancy but it IMPOSSIBLE to prove...???
That is the catch 22! It's like gender discrimination. You may feel it, but it is VERY hard to prove.
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05mommy09
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Re: probably getting a head of myself.
Posted by nov04libride
Posted by 05mommy09
Soooo basically it IS ILLEGAL to fire someone due to pregnancy but it IMPOSSIBLE to prove...???
That is the catch 22! It's like gender discrimination. You may feel it, but it is VERY hard to prove.
Gotcha... you learn something new everyday!
Its pretty scary when you think about it!
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Re: probably getting a head of myself.
Posted by nov04libride
Posted by 05mommy09
Soooo basically it IS ILLEGAL to fire someone due to pregnancy but it IMPOSSIBLE to prove...???
That is the catch 22! It's like gender discrimination. You may feel it, but it is VERY hard to prove.
YUP!!
It literally is he said/she said or she said/she said!!
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inhiding08
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Re: probably getting a head of myself.
Posted by KateDevine
Posted by nov04libride
Posted by 05mommy09
Soooo basically it IS ILLEGAL to fire someone due to pregnancy but it IMPOSSIBLE to prove...???
That is the catch 22! It's like gender discrimination. You may feel it, but it is VERY hard to prove.
YUP!!
It literally is he said/she said or she said/she said!!
thanks for all the info girls. as you can see this is why im freaking out!
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Re: probably getting a head of myself.
Posted by nov04libride
Posted by 05mommy09
Posted by nov04libride
Posted by 05mommy09
Posted by KateDevine
Posted by nov04libride
Yes, they might, and you also might not be covered under FMLA for not working there long enough before maternity leave. But, what other choice is there other than being unemployed for 9 months? Good luck!
You won't be covered for FMLA because you have to work there for a year to qualify
But I guess if they fired you at that point, you could get unemployment!
Isnt it illegal for someone to fire you JUST because you were preggo?
Technically, yes, but at my job we can fire anyone for any reason within the first year. We actually don't even legally have to give a reason, and HR recommends that you give no reason so that the person can
not sue.
I hear ya'- but I mean if she felt it was because of her pregnancy and could prove that up until that point she had never been spoken to about poor workmanship and they clearly replaced her (therefore it was financial reasons)
Wouldnt she have a case????
Im just curious...
No--the contract where I work (for the state, by the way) says you can be let go at any point during the first year, with no reason given. They can give some BS excuse like reorganization, blah, blah, but you wouldn't have a case, even if it was due to PG. During the first year they don't have to go through the channels of documenting poor performance/tardiness, etc. It's a way of streamlining that process when you see any signs of poor behavior.
With at-will employment, a person can be fired for any (legal) reason. A person cannot be fired b/c she's pregnant. While an employer may not have to give an actual reason when terminating a person, if someone filed a lawsuit, the employer would have to give a reason at that point. Presumably, the employer would come up with various reasons why it wasn't a "good fit." It's very difficult to prove someone was discriminated against and/or fired b/c of pregnancy.
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Re: probably getting a head of myself.
if you are a nurse and are going to work in a hospital i seriously doubt you will lose your job because of a pregnancy. On my unit, they hire woman all the time that are halfway thru their pregnancy when they start. don't be discouraged. 
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