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Jessah
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please tell me this isn't the norm
So a little background before I complain
My husband and I own a miniature doxie who is our life. We love her so much and have raised her from 8 weeks. She is completely trained, and beyond that we have taken her to training so she does basic commands tricks etc. We love this dog more then anything. Some one is always home for her during the day since I work days and he works nights, shes a spoiled happy puppy. We have a huge yard all fenced in for her to play and we both work and can afford to have her. We always taker her to the vet on time etc etc..so I think on paper we sound like good puppy parents right??
welllll...we decided last month we wanted to adopt a friend for her since she loves other dogs and so do we. we started looking knowing we wanted a dog around her age ( 3 ) and we would love to get another doxie because we just love their personalities. We found what we thought was a great resuce group, found an awesome dog. They did a home visit loved izzy and our home. So today they call me up saying now they need bank statements and pay stubs...umm is this the norm? I feel completely uneasy giving them this. It just feels weird. My husband said NO there is no way we are giving them bank statements and they are crazy to ask. Before I call them back I want to know if this is weird and we should continue our search or is this something they always do.
Please tell me this is really strange and its not just me!!
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wo0shply
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Re: please tell me this isn't the norm
i've never heard of a rescue group asking for bank statements and pay stubs. it sounds a little weird to me, did you by any chance do any research on the group after they asked for these things. It sounds a little fishy.
I understand that rescue organizations want to make sure you can financially take care of the animal but asking for bank statements and stubs is a little far fetched... its a dog not an apartment. Your references should be enough and the adoption fee to show that you're good pet parents.
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| Posted 2/1/10 11:09 AM |
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Jessah
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Re: please tell me this isn't the norm
Posted by wo0shply
i've never heard of a rescue group asking for bank statements and pay stubs. it sounds a little weird to me, did you by any chance do any research on the group after they asked for these things. It sounds a little fishy.
I understand that rescue organizations want to make sure you can financially take care of the animal but asking for bank statements and stubs is a little far fetched... its a dog not an apartment. Your references should be enough and the adoption fee to show that you're good pet parents.
Yes they are well known also!!! I totally understand they want to make sure we are financially secure but I gave them 3 references one being my boss!!! so they know I have a job lol. I have also donated to this organization many times...idk what to do. We love this dog but feel like the bank statements and pay stubs are a little much. I feel like I am applying for a mortgage again with everything they want lol
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Goobster
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Re: please tell me this isn't the norm
I dont know if this is the norm but I would not provide that info. While I understand they want to know the dog would be going to a great home, you are adopting a dog, not a child.
Try FMing Leese...she adopted through a rescue group and might know if this is norm or not.
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Re: please tell me this isn't the norm
My rescue didn't ask for that but did come to our home and 'interview' us. If it was a reputable rescue that I trusted, I would give it to them.
In this economy, I guess they want to ensure that not only can people afford daily care but also for veterinary bills, should a serious medical condition occur.
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| Posted 2/1/10 11:34 AM |
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Goobster
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Re: please tell me this isn't the norm
Posted by greenfreak
My rescue didn't ask for that but did come to our home and 'interview' us. If it was a reputable rescue that I trusted, I would give it to them.
In this economy, I guess they want to ensure that not only can people afford daily care but also for veterinary bills, should a serious medical condition occur.
I forgot about you, Green.
I agree with this concept but it does seem a bit excessive IMO.
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| Posted 2/1/10 11:48 AM |
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Re: please tell me this isn't the norm
Posted by Goobster
I forgot about you, Green.
I agree with this concept but it does seem a bit excessive IMO.
You forgot about me?  I was only absent for like a week. 
I think it's excessive too, but I'd still comply. With the amount of effort, time and money rescues put into their organizations (as volunteers), I was prepared to satisfy their requirements. They get a lot of dogs returned to them for really sh*tty reasons that they try to avoid with the approval process. 
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| Posted 2/1/10 11:53 AM |
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Jessah
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Re: please tell me this isn't the norm
I agree they go through a lot. Unfortunately my husband does not want to comply, he feels like it is an invasion of privacy. He feels like after having them come into our home and interview us and giving them great references(my job, vet etc) it should be enough. I am so sad because I love this dog and this its a great match for us. It is a shame that they will loose us because of this, but I understand why they want to do it I guess..I just feel bad for the poor dogs who will not get adopted because of how excessive some of these things are
Message edited 2/1/2010 1:47:15 PM.
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Jessah
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Re: please tell me this isn't the norm
If anyone knows of any rescue groups with a female doxie we would like to have our information passed on :)
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Jessah
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Re: please tell me this isn't the norm
Posted by Goobster
I dont know if this is the norm but I would not provide that info. While I understand they want to know the dog would be going to a great home, you are adopting a dog, not a child.
Try FMing Leese...she adopted through a rescue group and might know if this is norm or not.
thank you
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wo0shply
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Re: please tell me this isn't the norm
did you try to talk to the organization to see if they truly need this information or if there is a way you can substitute this information for something else like another reference?
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RadioLau
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Re: please tell me this isn't the norm
I would definitely use a thick black marker to black out my account number if you decide to give them the info.
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Jessah
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Re: please tell me this isn't the norm
Posted by wo0shply
did you try to talk to the organization to see if they truly need this information or if there is a way you can substitute this information for something else like another reference?
I talked to them today and spoke to a very nice woman who told me that she agrees that it is ridiculous and its sad for the dogs. They keep finding great home and then having people run away due to this policy
Oh well
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Re: please tell me this isn't the norm
Posted by TeamBurns
I am so sad because I love this dog and this its a great match for us.
If that's the case, I wouldn't let a piece of paper deter me from adopting a companion for the next 10+ years. It's possible they see that request as a test of how much people are willing to give up to adopt a dog that needs a forever family.
To be completely honest, I would rather deal with a rescue like that than one that just hands a dog over to anyone. I understand the privacy concern, I really do. It's just not a deal breaker for me. I hope you do find a good match for your family.
edited to add:
Question... Is this a requirement of all adopters, and is it something they state on their website? Or do they ask only in some circumstances? Just asking out of curiosity.
Message edited 2/1/2010 2:37:52 PM.
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Goobster
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Re: please tell me this isn't the norm
I would seriously have a long talk with them. It is just too strict of a policy and dogs are going to suffer b/c of it.
I was a victim of ID theft so this type of stuff I am very paranoid about. I would really try to have a long talk with them about changing their policy.
Maybe there is something else you can show them, less invasive?
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Re: please tell me this isn't the norm
Can you black out the account information on a photocopy, show it to them, but take it back with you so they don't have it on file?
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Coosie
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Re: please tell me this isn't the norm
Posted by greenfreak
Can you black out the account information on a photocopy, show it to them, but take it back with you so they don't have it on file?
ITA! I was just about to write the same when I read this. If they are truly only interested if you are financially able to take care of this dog then the above should be sufficient. Their needs get met of seeing that you have the proper funds and your needs get met that you don't have to give them any info that can cause identity theft.
I'm so sorry you are going thru this tho!
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thewinterone
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Re: please tell me this isn't the norm
Posted by greenfreak
Can you black out the account information on a photocopy, show it to them, but take it back with you so they don't have it on file?
If they won't go for this, I would feel too nervous to continue.
Since they already did a home visit, they see how you live.
Have they spoken to your vet already?
If so, they should see that care has been taken for your dog so why wouldn't you care for a new one?
What a disheartening policy.
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Jessah
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Re: please tell me this isn't the norm
Posted by Goobster
I would seriously have a long talk with them. It is just too strict of a policy and dogs are going to suffer b/c of it.
I was a victim of ID theft so this type of stuff I am very paranoid about. I would really try to have a long talk with them about changing their policy.
Maybe there is something else you can show them, less invasive?
My husband was also thats why he said he is 100 % against it..he doesn't think they are trying to steal our identity but is cautious...and while I understand why they want to see we can take care of the dog, I think that our vet telling them and them seeing our home etc should be enough.
Oh well I am in contact with a few other rescues and hopefully we can find a good match for our family
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Jessah
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Re: please tell me this isn't the norm
Posted by Coosie
Posted by greenfreak
Can you black out the account information on a photocopy, show it to them, but take it back with you so they don't have it on file?
ITA! I was just about to write the same when I read this. If they are truly only interested if you are financially able to take care of this dog then the above should be sufficient. Their needs get met of seeing that you have the proper funds and your needs get met that you don't have to give them any info that can cause identity theft.
I'm so sorry you are going thru this tho!
Im going to ask this tomorrow...it is a good idea...lets see if they go for it, maybe I can make them and my husband happy haha
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Jessah
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Re: please tell me this isn't the norm
Posted by greenfreak
Posted by TeamBurns
I am so sad because I love this dog and this its a great match for us.
If that's the case, I wouldn't let a piece of paper deter me from adopting a companion for the next 10+ years. It's possible they see that request as a test of how much people are willing to give up to adopt a dog that needs a forever family.
To be completely honest, I would rather deal with a rescue like that than one that just hands a dog over to anyone. I understand the privacy concern, I really do. It's just not a deal breaker for me. I hope you do find a good match for your family.
edited to add:
Question... Is this a requirement of all adopters, and is it something they state on their website? Or do they ask only in some circumstances? Just asking out of curiosity.
Its not just a "piece of paper" that is deterring me...its how my husband was a victim of identity thef and if not taking any chances. I am disappointed but if its their policy there is nothing I can do
It is a new requirement, required of everyone...while its good in some ways they will loose a lot of really awesome "pet parents"
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Jessah
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Re: please tell me this isn't the norm
Posted by woozshle
Posted by greenfreak
Can you black out the account information on a photocopy, show it to them, but take it back with you so they don't have it on file?
If they won't go for this, I would feel too nervous to continue.
Since they already did a home visit, they see how you live.
Have they spoken to your vet already?
If so, they should see that care has been taken for your dog so why wouldn't you care for a new one?
What a disheartening policy.
Yes I spoke to my vet today and he told me that these people are "wackos" haha
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Re: please tell me this isn't the norm
This is very unfortunate, I do believe you did everything in your power to show them what amazing parents you are to your dog that you have now, you gave references.
Honestly that should be enough, they should not have to see what you have in the bank and take home each week, your DH is right its an invasion of privacy
I hope you find another organization and you can rescue another pup 
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MRnMRSNurse
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Re: please tell me this isn't the norm
Jess! That's so weird!! I cannot even believe that!! I don't give my financial information to hardly anybody!!
FYI we are dying to get in a house so we can get another poodle. We seriously love having a dog so much!! We would love two!
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Diana712
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Re: please tell me this isn't the norm
Honestly I dont think its the norm. And I would look for another organization.. If someone else is willing to show there bank statements to a rescue group than let them do it. I would never ever ever. There has to be a way in a home visit to see if there is going to be a problem.. This seems way over the top to me.. I dont blame your DH at ALL..
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