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EatingMyVeggies

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Paying for a field trip?

The more I have read on this thread (and what is going on in the school above regarding the surplus) - it's all aggravating. I guess because I know we all pay some of the highest school taxes in the country right? And you're all right - it is like you're constantly being hit up for money everywhere you look. With all that we pay and all the yearly increases usually, it's crazy to have to open your wallet in regards to school. Last year the class mom wanted $20 each from each parent for the gift. It just feels like a lot of financial pressure I suppose. Field trips are great but not mandatory to education. They are an asset of course but not the end all be all.

Sometimes I wish things went back to basics. Where school was about learning and book reports. Not selling wrapping paper and candy and silent auctions and etc. I know it's all to support the schools but where do you draw the line, you know? Especially when we live in such a high priced area such as Long Island and the majority of the property taxes goes to the schools.

Then we have to deal with common core shenanigans that from what I read have a lot to do with $$$$$.

Maybe I'm wrong. It is nice to have great schools that flourish. I won't deny that. And I don't know where every single cent gets spent but sometimes the schools feel more like a business than an educational entity.

I guess there's no good answer. I just don't know.

Not looking to debate. I know there are many sides. Just my feelings after reading this thread. :/

Message edited 10/17/2014 2:47:41 PM.

Posted 10/17/14 2:45 PM
 
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Re: Paying for a field trip?

Posted by Kitten1929

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But I agree, a $35 million surplus is absurd. Where is all that money hiding???



Yup & the high school was told they didn't have money to replace musical instruments that need replacing. IN SEPTEMBER.

Maybe they can provide proper supplies for the classrooms so the teachers & the parents don't have to buy them.

I was reviewing the school board notes on the district sites during my con callChat Icon & discovered that they just hired a PR firm to represent the district. It's part of the superintendents job to handle PR - actually written into the job description but now we're paying a firm to do it. Why not lobby to hire a PR person because I'm sure this firm is getting a lot more money than we think. I really need to go to Board meetings. Shame on me.

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I'm searching for the field trip cost thing & why our district started paying from the local field trips.



This smells beyond fishy - an extra couple thousand, even hundred thousand, you can account for and say it was earmarked for a project that never happened, etc. But $39 million is an astronomical amount of money to have "hidden" and quite honestly, given the improprieties of some elected officials, I'd be more than skeptical.



ITA. VERY fishy.

Posted 10/17/14 2:48 PM
 

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Re: Paying for a field trip?

So here is my question- kind of off topic but kind of not..


This whole sending in 25 glue sticks, 100 pencils, etc at the beginning of the year- when I went to school we had to supply our own supplies, yes, but it was just for US.

So a glue stick for us- and if we ran out, we'd have to get a new one. For OURSELVES.
A box of crayons- for US to use personally.
Tissues for OUR desk.

Why is it now that each kid is supplying like 25 glue sticks? Does each child USE 25 glue sticks?
If not, where are those extra glue sticks going?

Please enlighten me...

Posted 10/17/14 2:48 PM
 

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Re: Paying for a field trip?

Posted by NervousNell

So here is my question- kind of off topic but kind of not..


This whole sending in 25 glue sticks, 100 pencils, etc at the beginning of the year- when I went to school we had to supply our own supplies, yes, but it was just for US.

So a glue stick for us- and if we ran out, we'd have to get a new one. For OURSELVES.
A box of crayons- for US to use personally.
Tissues for OUR desk.

Why is it now that each kid is supplying like 25 glue sticks? Does each child USE 25 glue sticks?
If not, where are those extra glue sticks going?

Please enlighten me...




I don't have a kid in school anymore. But I see what my daughter buys for her boys and what friends buy for their kids. And I always ask the same thing.
Who is using all of these supplies?
And WHY are parents supplying for the class?

Posted 10/17/14 2:50 PM
 

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Re: Paying for a field trip?

Posted by EatingMyVeggies

Last year the class mom wanted $20 each from each parent for the gift. . :/



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I love teachers but that is insane. I work my ass off too and no one gives me a big gift at work.

Posted 10/17/14 2:53 PM
 

EatingMyVeggies

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Paying for a field trip?

And wanted to add. Props to high heaven for people who are up on this stuff and ask questions and maybe launch investigations. Not just for field trips ... But anything. One person can make a difference for us all.

Posted 10/17/14 2:53 PM
 

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Re: Paying for a field trip?

Posted by EatingMyVeggies

The more I have read on this thread (and what is going on in the school above regarding the surplus) - it's all aggravating. I guess because I know we all pay some of the highest school taxes in the country right? And you're all right - it is like you're constantly being hit up for money everywhere you look. With all that we pay and all the yearly increases usually, it's crazy to have to open your wallet in regards to school. Last year the class mom wanted $20 each from each parent for the gift. It just feels like a lot of financial pressure I suppose. Field trips are great but not mandatory to education. They are an asset of course but not the end all be all.

Sometimes I wish things went back to basics. Where school was about learning and book reports. Not selling wrapping paper and candy and silent auctions and etc. I know it's all to support the schools but where do you draw the line, you know? Especially when we live in such a high priced area such as Long Island and the majority of the property taxes goes to the schools.

Then we have to deal with common core shenanigans that from what I read have a lot to do with $$$$$.

Maybe I'm wrong. It is nice to have great schools that flourish. I won't deny that. And I don't know where every single cent gets spent but sometimes the schools feel more like a business than an educational entity.

I guess there's no good answer. I just don't know.

Not looking to debate. I know there are many sides. Just my feelings after reading this thread. :/



I agree with you. Things seem so crazy now. When I was a kid we had one field trip a year, one fundraiser..........maybe. My mom would make Italian pizzelle cookies as gifts for the teachers and things were simple. HW wasn't insane, I was able to figure it out myself and it made sense. Things have certainly changed a lot over the years.

I know I'll sound old, Chat Icon , but I sometimes miss the "old ways"...........and not even just education related. Life seemed simpler when I was young, people trusted each other more, things were more centered on family, the world seemed a little smaller. I will be the first to admit I love my iPad, the internet, etc. but there is such a disconnect nowadays with people. It's just a shame.

I miss the days of purple printed dittos for HW, round robin reading......and not until 1st grade,, family dinners, and your mom telling you to "go call for someone" on the block or "go out and play". Now life is all about HW a scientist couldn't figure out, quiet, empty neighborhoods, and play dates. (I cringe at the word)

It would be nice if we lived back in a simpler time.

Posted 10/17/14 2:54 PM
 

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Re: Paying for a field trip?

Posted by NervousNell

So here is my question- kind of off topic but kind of not..


This whole sending in 25 glue sticks, 100 pencils, etc at the beginning of the year- when I went to school we had to supply our own supplies, yes, but it was just for US.

So a glue stick for us- and if we ran out, we'd have to get a new one. For OURSELVES.
A box of crayons- for US to use personally.
Tissues for OUR desk.

Why is it now that each kid is supplying like 25 glue sticks? Does each child USE 25 glue sticks?
If not, where are those extra glue sticks going?

Please enlighten me...




Last year in Kindergarten the supplies I sent in were for the table, everyone shared. This year in 1st grade, my DD has her own desk within the table and her supplies are just for her. Everything is kept in her desk for her use. No community supplies.

Posted 10/17/14 2:56 PM
 

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Re: Paying for a field trip?

Posted by EatingMyVeggies

The more I have read on this thread (and what is going on in the school above regarding the surplus) - it's all aggravating. I guess because I know we all pay some of the highest school taxes in the country right? And you're all right - it is like you're constantly being hit up for money everywhere you look. With all that we pay and all the yearly increases usually, it's crazy to have to open your wallet in regards to school. Last year the class mom wanted $20 each from each parent for the gift. It just feels like a lot of financial pressure I suppose. Field trips are great but not mandatory to education. They are an asset of course but not the end all be all.

Sometimes I wish things went back to basics. Where school was about learning and book reports. Not selling wrapping paper and candy and silent auctions and etc. I know it's all to support the schools but where do you draw the line, you know? Especially when we live in such a high priced area such as Long Island and the majority of the property taxes goes to the schools.

Then we have to deal with common core shenanigans that from what I read have a lot to do with $$$$$.

Maybe I'm wrong. It is nice to have great schools that flourish. I won't deny that. And I don't know where every single cent gets spent but sometimes the schools feel more like a business than an educational entity.

I guess there's no good answer. I just don't know.

Not looking to debate. I know there are many sides. Just my feelings after reading this thread. :/



LI schools are so incredibly top heavy and plentiful. We have 121 or 122 districts on LI whereas the 5 boroughs of NYC have one. With over a 120 districts come at least 120 superintendents with their benefits, pensions and expense accounts..add on their asst. superintendents with their benefits, pensions and expense account and then there is usually another asst. sup in the mix. That's a lot of money every year.

Posted 10/17/14 2:59 PM
 

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Paying for a field trip?

And ziplocks!!!

Don't forget the ziplocks!!!


And yes. $20. I was shocked. It would have been a $300 dollar gift. Not that she didn't deserve it. But it all adds up after awhile with the bus driver etc. I miss the days of a nice handmade card from a kid and some cookies.
Please no one take any of this as teacher bashing. You all live and work here and pay the stupid high taxes along with us. I know no one has it easy really on either side.

Posted 10/17/14 3:02 PM
 

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Re: Paying for a field trip?

Posted by CookiePuss

Posted by EatingMyVeggies

The more I have read on this thread (and what is going on in the school above regarding the surplus) - it's all aggravating. I guess because I know we all pay some of the highest school taxes in the country right? And you're all right - it is like you're constantly being hit up for money everywhere you look. With all that we pay and all the yearly increases usually, it's crazy to have to open your wallet in regards to school. Last year the class mom wanted $20 each from each parent for the gift. It just feels like a lot of financial pressure I suppose. Field trips are great but not mandatory to education. They are an asset of course but not the end all be all.

Sometimes I wish things went back to basics. Where school was about learning and book reports. Not selling wrapping paper and candy and silent auctions and etc. I know it's all to support the schools but where do you draw the line, you know? Especially when we live in such a high priced area such as Long Island and the majority of the property taxes goes to the schools.

Then we have to deal with common core shenanigans that from what I read have a lot to do with $$$$$.

Maybe I'm wrong. It is nice to have great schools that flourish. I won't deny that. And I don't know where every single cent gets spent but sometimes the schools feel more like a business than an educational entity.

I guess there's no good answer. I just don't know.

Not looking to debate. I know there are many sides. Just my feelings after reading this thread. :/



LI schools are so incredibly top heavy and plentiful. We have 121 or 122 districts on LI whereas the 5 boroughs of NYC have one. With over a 120 districts come at least 120 superintendents with their benefits, pensions and expense accounts..add on their asst. superintendents with their benefits, pensions and expense account and then there is usually another asst. sup in the mix. That's a lot of money every year.



And yet when people call to reform and restructure the school districts and/or administration, everyone crawls out the woodworks because they don't want lower-income/diverse students tainting their "pristine" districts.

Even school districts are all about Keeping Up with the Joneses.

Posted 10/17/14 3:24 PM
 

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Re: Paying for a field trip?

Posted by Kitten1929

Posted by CookiePuss

Posted by EatingMyVeggies

The more I have read on this thread (and what is going on in the school above regarding the surplus) - it's all aggravating. I guess because I know we all pay some of the highest school taxes in the country right? And you're all right - it is like you're constantly being hit up for money everywhere you look. With all that we pay and all the yearly increases usually, it's crazy to have to open your wallet in regards to school. Last year the class mom wanted $20 each from each parent for the gift. It just feels like a lot of financial pressure I suppose. Field trips are great but not mandatory to education. They are an asset of course but not the end all be all.

Sometimes I wish things went back to basics. Where school was about learning and book reports. Not selling wrapping paper and candy and silent auctions and etc. I know it's all to support the schools but where do you draw the line, you know? Especially when we live in such a high priced area such as Long Island and the majority of the property taxes goes to the schools.

Then we have to deal with common core shenanigans that from what I read have a lot to do with $$$$$.

Maybe I'm wrong. It is nice to have great schools that flourish. I won't deny that. And I don't know where every single cent gets spent but sometimes the schools feel more like a business than an educational entity.

I guess there's no good answer. I just don't know.

Not looking to debate. I know there are many sides. Just my feelings after reading this thread. :/



LI schools are so incredibly top heavy and plentiful. We have 121 or 122 districts on LI whereas the 5 boroughs of NYC have one. With over a 120 districts come at least 120 superintendents with their benefits, pensions and expense accounts..add on their asst. superintendents with their benefits, pensions and expense account and then there is usually another asst. sup in the mix. That's a lot of money every year.



And yet when people call to reform and restructure the school districts and/or administration, everyone crawls out the woodworks because they don't want lower-income/diverse students tainting their "pristine" districts.

Even school districts are all about Keeping Up with the Joneses.



I completely agree. They lose the forest for the tree. Centralizing our school districts would provide such a benefit to all students...regardless of income.

Posted 10/17/14 3:28 PM
 

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Re: Paying for a field trip?

Posted by evrythng4areason

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by Sweetlax22

Posted by Sparrow

My kids aren't in school yet but I would have thought they'd be covered by the school honestly. Don't feel silly for asking, I would have been a bit surprised too. What happens for kids who's parents just can't afford it?



Most of the time the teacher pays , some schools or PTAs have funds set up for that situation also.



What teachers do you know that would pay for every kids field trip?? Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon

When I was teaching I did NOT (EVER) pay for a kids field trip, that is NOT my responsibility. No teacher I knew was paying for her class either.

Sometimes the field trip was covered by the school, which was very rare OR the cost of the trip was to be paid by the parents which is most common. Very, very rarely have I come across a completely field trip because they usually at least need money to cover the buses that day.

As far as a parent not being able to afford it, the trips are never that expensive and most parents can afford the few bucks it costs............and I've taught in some pretty low income areas. If you can't afford you can just opt out of your child going. Field trips aren't mandatory.



I think she said the teacher would sometimes pay if a family couldn't afford to send their child, which I have heard of happening.



Yupp, I was not clear that I was referring to a teacher paying towards maybe one or two students who cannot afford the trip. If it is more then one or two students that can't afford it I think the teacher has to rethink that trip.

I know myself as well as most of my colleagues and friends would never leave a student behind because they truly could not afford the trip.

Posted 10/17/14 3:55 PM
 

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Paying for a field trip?

Haven't read every single post but some of what I've read is surprising and I just wanted to share my take. Having taught in a district where some kids have and others don't, field trips were seen and strongly encouraged as a way to even the playing field. Background knowledge is a necessity when kids start to get into the higher levels. Those kids whose kids whose parents can't afford to take them places and give them experiences end up with a disadvantage. I taught in a district that bordered queens and when a math question came up that involved peak and off peak train fares my 12th graders had no idea what that meant. Kids need to get out of the classroom and be exposed to new things. I'm not sure how that should be paid for, but the kids who can afford it the least need it the most.

As far as huge surpluses, I'm pretty sure there are laws against it. I also think the state can't figure out how to handle this stuff at all. I think sachem was forced to use up the majority of their reserves a few years ago (versus increasing taxes) and then got penalized and given peanuts in government aid the next year. The whole system just seems messed up and no one seems to be able to look at the whole picture and figure out how to fix it.

Posted 10/17/14 4:12 PM
 

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Re: Paying for a field trip?

Posted by Sparrow

Posted by EatingMyVeggies

Last year the class mom wanted $20 each from each parent for the gift. . :/



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I love teachers but that is insane. I work my ass off too and no one gives me a big gift at work.



Nothing against teachers either, but last week people where asking how much or what type of gift to give teachers. I stated giving $$ etc seems as if they work for tips.

Why do teachers get gift cards and certificates, how did that all start??

not everyone can afford all the extras and the pressure to keep up for some is overwhelming.

In general, IMO gifts with a known monetary value is not for bosses, supervisors teachers etc, it is for friends and family. Cards and small gifts, picture frames, cookies etc. IMO are more appropriate.

I wish at my job I could get visa gift cards etc. for doing my job.

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Posted 10/17/14 4:33 PM
 

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Re: Paying for a field trip?

Posted by Hofstra26

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Posted by Hofstra26


Not to sound harsh, but kids cost money. They need money for new clothes every year, school supplies, medical care, school activities, etc. I'm not made of money myself but you have to find a way to budget for the things your child needs, it is your responsibility as a parent.



You know what....I'm a single mom, I have a deadbeat ex, he pays no child support. When I had my son, we had two incomes. Now I support him on mine alone. It is HARD to do.

Sometimes people fall on hard times, or situations change. I have been lucky that I have not had to look to other forms of help (YET) but my son's teacher has let me pay late for a field trip ($15) because I didn't have it when it was due because of these circumstances.





I understand that, I never said financially caring for kids was an EASY thing to do, it's not. They always need something and along with what they need you also need money for ten thousand other things as well..........debt, bills, food, etc.

But ultimately, as parents, we have to just figure out how to manage it all and somehow make it work because we don't have much of a choice.

My son was hospitalized with pneumonia earlier this year, two days in the hospital cost me OVER $6K out of pocket and that was WITH insurance. I wasn't banking on that expense but we had to figure it out. It's just how life goes. If your kids need money for something whether it be a field trip, or medical care, or clothes, or anything else somehow you just have to find a way. And it's NOT easy all of the time.




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Posted 10/17/14 8:02 PM
 

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Re: Paying for a field trip?

Posted by NervousNell

So here is my question- kind of off topic but kind of not..


This whole sending in 25 glue sticks, 100 pencils, etc at the beginning of the year- when I went to school we had to supply our own supplies, yes, but it was just for US.

So a glue stick for us- and if we ran out, we'd have to get a new one. For OURSELVES.
A box of crayons- for US to use personally.
Tissues for OUR desk.

Why is it now that each kid is supplying like 25 glue sticks? Does each child USE 25 glue sticks?
If not, where are those extra glue sticks going?

Please enlighten me...




YES! They absolutely do! I would have never believed it, until I saw it. I did my student teaching in a 1st grade classroom and those kids went through glue sticks like no ones business!!!

I think the reason they ask for it up front is because they don't want to hound parents every other week for a new glue stick or whatnot when most parents are working full time, parenting other kids and doing 100 other things.

Posted 10/17/14 9:40 PM
 

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Paying for a field trip?

Im part of my schools PTO. we hold fundraisers for field trips to keep cost down & make it easier for families. Sometimes field trips are free!

Posted 10/17/14 9:54 PM
 

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Re: Paying for a field trip?

Posted by NervousNell

So here is my question- kind of off topic but kind of not..


This whole sending in 25 glue sticks, 100 pencils, etc at the beginning of the year- when I went to school we had to supply our own supplies, yes, but it was just for US.

So a glue stick for us- and if we ran out, we'd have to get a new one. For OURSELVES.
A box of crayons- for US to use personally.
Tissues for OUR desk.

Why is it now that each kid is supplying like 25 glue sticks? Does each child USE 25 glue sticks?
If not, where are those extra glue sticks going?

Please enlighten me...




LOL I understand this post but I will tell you as a teacher for the last 14 years (1st & 2nd grade) you cannot believe how fast those glue sticks AND pencils go! It's insane I tell you! I almost NEVER have either item left by the end of June. Just so much easier to keep in class from the beginning as opposed to chasing down parents all year to send them in as the kids finish theirs. There are many wonderful parents but there's always a handful that afer numerous reminders just don't send them in. Of course then we just get them for the children ourselves because it's not worth the battle.

Posted 10/17/14 10:07 PM
 

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Posted by Jbon630

Posted by NervousNell

So here is my question- kind of off topic but kind of not..


This whole sending in 25 glue sticks, 100 pencils, etc at the beginning of the year- when I went to school we had to supply our own supplies, yes, but it was just for US.

So a glue stick for us- and if we ran out, we'd have to get a new one. For OURSELVES.
A box of crayons- for US to use personally.
Tissues for OUR desk.

Why is it now that each kid is supplying like 25 glue sticks? Does each child USE 25 glue sticks?
If not, where are those extra glue sticks going?

Please enlighten me...




YES! They absolutely do! I would have never believed it, until I saw it. I did my student teaching in a 1st grade classroom and those kids went through glue sticks like no ones business!!!

I think the reason they ask for it up front is because they don't want to hound parents every other week for a new glue stick or whatnot when most parents are working full time, parenting other kids and doing 100 other things.



Exactly lol.

Posted 10/17/14 10:08 PM
 

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Re: Paying for a field trip?

Posted by Kitten1

You know how teachers give out the supply list - like 25 glue sticks, 10 packs of crayons, etc...my friend is in Sachem and she says she knows of parents who absolutely have the funds to provide the supplies but don't because they know others will. Totally taking advantage.



That makes me mad bc I'm one of the parents who really couldn't afford the 15 LG glue sticks ($25 alone!!!) but I sent them In anyway cuz that's what the teacher asked for.

Posted 10/17/14 10:11 PM
 

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Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by NervousNell

So here is my question- kind of off topic but kind of not..


This whole sending in 25 glue sticks, 100 pencils, etc at the beginning of the year- when I went to school we had to supply our own supplies, yes, but it was just for US.

So a glue stick for us- and if we ran out, we'd have to get a new one. For OURSELVES.
A box of crayons- for US to use personally.
Tissues for OUR desk.

Why is it now that each kid is supplying like 25 glue sticks? Does each child USE 25 glue sticks?
If not, where are those extra glue sticks going?

Please enlighten me...




Last year in Kindergarten the supplies I sent in were for the table, everyone shared. This year in 1st grade, my DD has her own desk within the table and her supplies are just for her. Everything is kept in her desk for her use. No community supplies.



My f2f class has community supplies. I even had to buy a pack of post it's, for the teachers use! When I went to open school night she had all these unnecessary post it's around lol last year I had to buy 4 dry erase markers. I asked by dd if she ever used them she said no. So u mean to tell me in a year her teacher needed 4x25 dry erase markers????

Posted 10/17/14 10:22 PM
 

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Paying for a field trip?

I teach in NYC unless its a free trip the kids pay. We are going to the farm and it's $9 per person. We don't pay for the bus.

Posted 10/17/14 10:48 PM
 

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On the flip side, what about the taxpayers who don't have children using the school district? As if the taxes in our area aren't high enough, you think it's reasonable that they should be burdened with the responsibility of sending every kid in the district on field trips, too? Chat Icon There are certain expenses that are reasonable as a taxpayer... such as purchasing new textbooks that don't date back two centuries ago. There are other expenses that are completely outrageous... such as sending 300 kids to a pumpkin farm, or to see Les Mis...

I don't understand why everyone is jumping on Hofstra. Kids ARE expensive.... I think any parent can attest to this fact, regardless of their financial situation. I don't understand how her stating that simple fact comes across as her feeling like she's above anyone else. Unless I misread her post, I don't recall her saying anything derogatory or judgmental about struggling families. I completely understand that it is a hardship for some families to afford lavish extras (like trips to the zoo, Les Mis, Washington D.C., day camp, or extracurriculars like sports) and that financial circumstances can change. BUT, if families with students are struggling to afford the extra school-related expenses for their kids like a field trip, then that needs to be worked out on the school community level... like with PTA fundraisers/family nights/donations, etc. It shouldn't be tacked on as an extra expense for taxpayers. The taxes in our area are the highest in the country. Many families (both with children and those without) are struggling just to be able to pay their taxes. It's why so many people are looking to get out of NY. It's requests like this one (not singling out OP or ppl in this thread, speaking in general) and the funding of the ridiculously exorbitant and cushy salaries/pensions (how many taxpayers are afforded perks such as pensions of their own???) of the absurd amount of administrators in our school districts that are causing ppl to struggle just to afford their rising taxes in our area. Another option: kid doesn't go. When I was a kid parents were expected to pay for EVERYTHING, including field trips (and to participate in 1000 fundraisers). You either went on the trip, or you didn't.

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Posted 10/18/14 1:25 AM
 

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Re: Paying for a field trip?

Posted by cj7305

Posted by NervousNell

So here is my question- kind of off topic but kind of not..


This whole sending in 25 glue sticks, 100 pencils, etc at the beginning of the year- when I went to school we had to supply our own supplies, yes, but it was just for US.

So a glue stick for us- and if we ran out, we'd have to get a new one. For OURSELVES.
A box of crayons- for US to use personally.
Tissues for OUR desk.

Why is it now that each kid is supplying like 25 glue sticks? Does each child USE 25 glue sticks?
If not, where are those extra glue sticks going?

Please enlighten me...




LOL I understand this post but I will tell you as a teacher for the last 14 years (1st & 2nd grade) you cannot believe how fast those glue sticks AND pencils go! It's insane I tell you! I almost NEVER have either item left by the end of June. Just so much easier to keep in class from the beginning as opposed to chasing down parents all year to send them in as the kids finish theirs. There are many wonderful parents but there's always a handful that afer numerous reminders just don't send them in. Of course then we just get them for the children ourselves because it's not worth the battle.



I run a small day program and I can't believe how fast supplies go, so I can just imagine how it is in schools. Yesterday I thought there was going to be a freakin' revolt because I ran out of plastic forks.

I have to hide a lot of stuff too because it is swiped by people not even affiliated with my dept.

Highlighters, pens, markers and yes, glue sticks we go through very fast.

Posted 10/18/14 5:59 AM
 
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