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NTTCR:16 & Pregnant.. . . vent
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Re: NTTCR:16 & Pregnant.. . . vent
it is kind of disturbing how this show and teen mom are popular... idk maybe its my hate for anything reality related that is fueling my hate... but i agree with you, it almost glorifies it!
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Re: NTTCR:16 & Pregnant.. . . vent
I agree with you! I've never seen the show and refuse to watch it - I don't want to be part of the audience that perpetuates it.
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cateyemm
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Re: NTTCR:16 & Pregnant.. . . vent
i definitely think that if i was a teenager i wouldnt see the negatives of the show. Of course as an adult, i see it but as a kid i would just see how cute the baby is at the end.
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MrsKS
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Re: NTTCR:16 & Pregnant.. . . vent
See now I don't see much if any at all glorification.
Usually the girl misses out on graduating on time, if at all.
There's always some sort of family struggle. Usually friends become scarse...
And most of all they seem to always "think" the guy will change his ways and instead he gets worse and worse to the point that it's even painful to watch the loser guys without seriously wanting to slap them around.
The girl usually ends up sacraficing the most and doing most if not all of the work while the guy is absent and free to party it up and live his life as if nothing ever happened.
In the end the relationship is dissolved and not stronger as they thought it would be in the beginning. And usually shortly thereafter a custody battle ensues.
By the end of the scenario the girl is saying how she regrets it all and wishes she would have waited, etc. It's a pipe dream gone bad.
I really see it highlighting the negatives of the situation. The main message I see is WAIT, you are too young to sacraifice your teenage years for this adult responsibility.
If the only benefit they get out of the situation is the guy is able to sleep over or move in… I just don’t see how that outweighs all the crap that adds up to a mountain of negatives. And even so, usually the guy turns into the hugest jerk in the mist of all this so who really cares if he’s sleeping over or not? He might as well not even be there.
ETA: Now I see the TLC Sister Wives show as glorifying a poligymist lifestyle in a lot of ways....
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Re: NTTCR:16 & Pregnant.. . . vent
ITA , never watched and I find a lot of things on TV now that are "glorified " that really shouldn't be , 16 and pregnant is one of them !
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BABYblues2010
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Re: NTTCR:16 & Pregnant.. . . vent
Let me clarify. By glorify, I mean put these girls on T.V. make these girls" famous" for getting pregnant.
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| Posted 11/3/10 10:08 AM |
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Re: NTTCR:16 & Pregnant.. . . vent
I know someone who is in her early 20's, has 2 young children, one on the way, lives home with parents and the boyfriend lives there too.
It's really frustrating to hear of people getting pregnant who did not want to have a baby, then those that are ready and really want it have difficulties.
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Hofstra26
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Re: NTTCR:16 & Pregnant.. . . vent
It is entertaining to watch (after all, it's TV) but I do think that MTV is trying very hard to portray the msg. that it's not easy being a Teen Mom and to deal with a pregnancy at such a young age. I think the msg. has a little more meaning when you're seeing it than to just hear, "Safe sex. Don't get pregnant". I don't think MTV is glorifying being pregnant or advocating anything other than to practice safe sex and to realize the consequences of a teen pregnancy.............no parental support, loss of friends, not graduating, giving up your youth, and in most cases giving up your relationship.
Yes, in the end it's a reality show but I think the intentions of MTV are to send a msg. to teens about the benefits of safe sex and the hardships of becoming a teen mom. And if you ever watch the after shows or reunion shows the girls are all pretty honest about how it's so hard being a mom at such a young age and if they could they would do it all differently. I don't think any of them are making it seem like this was a wise choice or something they had wanted for themselves at such a young age. I think this show is just another way to convey a very important msg. to teens.
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Re: NTTCR:16 & Pregnant.. . . vent
I totally agree that this show promotes teen pregnancy.
I really believe 90% of it is staged and they don't show the real hardships associated with caring for a baby.
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| Posted 11/3/10 10:27 AM |
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MrsKS
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Re: NTTCR:16 & Pregnant.. . . vent
Posted by PennyJ923
It's really frustrating to hear of people getting pregnant who did not want to have a baby, then those that are ready and really want it have difficulties.
I couldn't agree more with this!!!
And even a step further... it annoys me to no end when I see soooooo many unfit parents out there and i'm just so beyond disgusted at the fact that they were given this precious gift meanwhile someone who would be soooo much better as a parent is out there having problems TTC.
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Re: NTTCR:16 & Pregnant.. . . vent
Posted by Hofstra26
It is entertaining to watch (after all, it's TV) but I do think that MTV is trying very hard to portray the msg. that it's not easy being a Teen Mom and to deal with a pregnancy at such a young age. I think the msg. has a little more meaning when you're seeing it than to just hear, "Safe sex. Don't get pregnant". I don't think MTV is glorifying being pregnant or advocating anything other than to practice safe sex and to realize the consequences of a teen pregnancy.............no parental support, loss of friends, not graduating, giving up your youth, and in most cases giving up your relationship.
Yes, in the end it's a reality show but I think the intentions of MTV are to send a msg. to teens about the benefits of safe sex and the hardships of becoming a teen mom. And if you ever watch the after shows or reunion shows the girls are all pretty honest about how it's so hard being a mom at such a young age and if they could they would do it all differently. I don't think any of them are making it seem like this was a wise choice or something they had wanted for themselves at such a young age. I think this show is just another way to convey a very important msg. to teens.
ITA!!!!
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Re: NTTCR:16 & Pregnant.. . . vent
ugh i saw part of this episode last night and i couldnt even watch. The girls are all in the bathroom giggling about how the one was pregnant and told her mom. They make it look like being pregnant at 16 is something funny rather than a serious issue.
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| Posted 11/3/10 10:33 AM |
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Hofstra26
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Re: NTTCR:16 & Pregnant.. . . vent
The unfortunate reality is there are MANY, MANY unfit, god awful, terrible, useless parents out there and it has NOTHING to do with age. I know plenty of people who are far from being a teen and who have kids and no clue..........they just $uck at it.
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MrsKS
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Re: NTTCR:16 & Pregnant.. . . vent
Posted by Hofstra26
The unfortunate reality is there are MANY, MANY unfit, god awful, terrible, useless parents out there and it has NOTHING to do with age. I know plenty of people who are far from being a teen and who have kids and no clue..........they just $uck at it.
Absolutely!!
The sister of a best friend of mine is one of those parents!!!  I swear I want to club her in the head and take her to get nuetered like you would a cat on the street!!
This girl has 2 kids. One was diagnosed with a very aggressive and powerful form of cancer and was given a 30% survival rate. He is in and out of the hospital on a weekly basis and at times has spent months in the hospital. The mother NEVER even goes to visit him at the hospital. She even saw him on the bus one day and IGNORED him!!! She is by far one of the worst mother's I have ever seen in my life. She is a battered and broken person from the inside and has been through a lot emotionally... but still you took on the responsibility of being a parent and having kids, you need to own up to it regardless.... and her actions are just unforgiving to me!! I literally mean it when I say she should be neutered. She is seeing a new guy now, and I fear she will spawn again and I feel terrible for the kids she already neglects!!!
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BABYblues2010
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Re: NTTCR:16 & Pregnant.. . . vent
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Re: NTTCR:16 & Pregnant.. . . vent
i refuse to watch those shows...
i know there are a lot of great young moms out there but generally speaking i don't think someone who is still in their teens has enough life experience and responsibility (finance wise, education wise, mentally etc.) to bring another person into the world.
i don't think you have to be married to have a baby but again generally speaking i think people who have made a commitment to eachother prior to having children have a better chance of bringing their child up in a healthy family situation than someone who got pregnant from their high school boyfriend...
i think mtv is disgusting. i really don't watch that channel anymore. they do glorify teenage pregnancy b/c these girls are on TV and they are getting their 15 minutes of fame. same thing for shows like the jersey shore. those idiots are famous now. unfortunately a lot of kids watch it and copy what they see...
i've posted about this before but my sister has a sh!tload of pregnant friends. having a baby daddy, no job and no money but rocking a baby bump makes you popular and cool these days...i go on her facebook and i want to vomit...
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Re: NTTCR:16 & Pregnant.. . . vent
this is why i get upset about shows like 16 and pregnant, and teen mom, but i hate to admit im totallly addicted to them...
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Hofstra26
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Re: NTTCR:16 & Pregnant.. . . vent
Posted by JDC112010
I totally agree that this show promotes teen pregnancy.
I really believe 90% of it is staged and they don't show the real hardships associated with caring for a baby.
Do you even watch the show? How exactly does it promote teen pregnancy? I've seen EVERY episode of EVERY season (Teen Mom included) and truth be told, they do NOT in any way paint a pretty picture of the realities of teen pregnancy. Most of the relationships fall apart, most of the parents are completely disappointed in their children, most of the girls fail out of school, and a lot of the girls lose their friends over everything. I don't know what teenager would watch that show and say, "Oh hey, this looks like fun. I'm going to go get myself knocked up". As I said earlier on this thread, sometimes seeing a person go through a struggle such as a teen pregnancy (even if it is on TV) has a greater impact than just hearing someone tell you to practice safe sex.
I have yet to see any episode where everything just worked out peachy keen for these girls and I think the show does a fine job of showing not only the struggles with being pregnant but what life is like once the baby arrives and speaking as a mom.........it's pretty accurate. Nothing is about you anymore, you're tired, you're stressed, you're "on call" 24/7, you have no time for yourself, your life is filled with diapers and bottles, and nothing matters anymore except the little person you brought into this world. That's the reality of motherhood and that's what both of these TV shows depict.
Trust me, both "16 and Pregnant" and "Teen Mom" are not in any way promoting teen pregnancy. Honestly, it's a silly thing to even say. I don't think there is a person, TV show, book, or magazine out there that would lead anyone to believe that getting pregnant as a teenager is a great idea and a wise path to take. The whole point of these shows to give teens an idea of what it actually means to be pregnant and have a baby and to DISCOURAGE (NOT promote) them from practicing unsafe sex. You're never going to convince a teen who wants to be sexually active to not engage in sexual activity but you can teach them about the realities of unsafe sexual activity and the consequences of getting pregnant at a young age. I think both shows achieve in sending this message to young women.
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Nik211
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Re: NTTCR:16 & Pregnant.. . . vent
hofstra that is what you get from the show as a mature adult watching....a 13, 14, 15 year old watching might think "well my boyfriend wouldn't treat me like that b/c he loves me", or "my family isn't dysfunctional like this girls parents and they will support me" or "i can still do everything i want and have a baby b/c i'll have more help than these girls"....i would think that a lot of teenagers have a different perspective, at least i know i did when i was teen (that i can do anything, i know everything type of attitude)...
and unfortunately there are insecure teen girls out there just looking for unconditional love - which they think they will get from a baby...or popularity which they think they will get from a baby...
my sister's friends are teens, they watch mtv and it certainly didn't stop a bunch of them from getting pregnant...and guess who pays for it - the govt which i don't want to get started on b/c it annoys me 
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BABYblues2010
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Re: NTTCR:16 & Pregnant.. . . vent
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Re: NTTCR:16 & Pregnant.. . . vent
Posted by Nik211
hofstra that is what you get from the show as a mature adult watching....a 13, 14, 15 year old watching might think "well my boyfriend wouldn't treat me like that b/c he loves me", or "my family isn't dysfunctional like this girls parents and they will support me" or "i can still do everything i want and have a baby b/c i'll have more help than these girls"....i would think that a lot of teenagers have a different perspective, at least i know i did when i was teen (that i can do anything, i know everything type of attitude)...
and unfortunately there are insecure teen girls out there just looking for unconditional love - which they think they will get from a baby...or popularity which they think they will get from a baby...
my sister's friends are teens, they watch mtv and it certainly didn't stop a bunch of them from getting pregnant...and guess who pays for it - the govt which i don't want to get started on b/c it annoys me
Not just because I agree with Hofstra... but they show a very wide array of family situations. Not all the girls on the show come from bad homes or families. They have adopted girls who are in good homes, they have broken homes, they have girls raised by their fathers, girls raised by their mothers, they have step-parent situations, etc. I think they purposely pick different family situations so people can relate that part to their own circumstances.
And not for one second do I think that ANY of those parents are NOT disapointed in their teen who got pregnant.... and I don't think a teen would think their parent would be proud of them for it either. I don't think you need to have a mature adult mind to figure out that it's not going to end up as all fun and games and it is serious and MANY MANY issues and problems will arise no matter who you are or what family you come from or where you live. I don't think it's a hard concept for a even a 14 year old to grasp.
I could see the girls thinking "oh my bf wouldn't do that"... but then when they see how these girls thought that exact thought in the beginning and it didn't turn out that way... it has to open someone's eyes to the fact that these things do indeed occur. The whole premise of the show is that these are girls who never thought it would all happen to them and yet it did.
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Re: NTTCR:16 & Pregnant.. . . vent
Posted by Nik211
hofstra that is what you get from the show as a mature adult watching....a 13, 14, 15 year old watching might think "well my boyfriend wouldn't treat me like that b/c he loves me", or "my family isn't dysfunctional like this girls parents and they will support me" or "i can still do everything i want and have a baby b/c i'll have more help than these girls"....i would think that a lot of teenagers have a different perspective, at least i know i did when i was teen (that i can do anything, i know everything type of attitude)...
and unfortunately there are insecure teen girls out there just looking for unconditional love - which they think they will get from a baby...or popularity which they think they will get from a baby...
my sister's friends are teens, they watch mtv and it certainly didn't stop a bunch of them from getting pregnant...and guess who pays for it - the govt which i don't want to get started on b/c it annoys me
First, *most* girls are not getting pregnant intentionally because they want someone to love them. Not to say that doesn't happen however, most girls think it will never happen to them and get pregnant on accident because they were careless or lacked the knowledge to protect themselves. What I think these shows demonstrate to young girls is that it CAN happen to you and it doesn't matter if you have a good family, bad family, no father, supportive boyfriend, jerky boyfriend, lots of money, no money, etc. etc. etc. If you don't practice safe sex you can end up pregnant.
Secondly, I don't think adults give enough credit to teenagers. I won't argue a teenager thinks they know everything and that they do lack life experience and sometimes maturity however, many, many teens are knowledgeable, intelligent, fairly mature, and adult enough to understand a concept such as safe sex and the consequences of getting pregnant at a young age. I was one of those teens which brings me to my next point.
I was sexually active at 16 years old with my then boyfriend, now husband. I was a mature, intelligent girl from a good family and I knew ALL of the risks associated with being sexually active and I can tell you with complete honesty that my DH (then boyfriend) used protection 100% of the time. I never once did anything that would cause an unwanted pregnancy. I knew the risks, I knew what getting pregnant at that age would mean for my life, and I can tell you that back then if I was watching these shows on MTV I wouldn't for a second think they were glamorizing being pregnant. I wouldn't think it's cool. I would never think that it couldn't happen to me. Seeing the struggles these girls have would have actually scared the cr@p out of me and made me even more careful when engaging in sexual activities.
Unfortunately I think too many people make the mistake of assuming that because you talk about sex or expose a young girl to certain issues regarding sexual activity it will cause them to go out and get themselves into trouble when really the best defense anyone has in the world is knowledge. Knowledge is power and let's be honest, most teens don't turn to their parents for advice or to learn about the world around them. I was a good kid and I know I didn't go to my parents with a lot of things at that age even though I loved my parents and trusted them. At that age a lot of what you learn comes from your friends and nowadays, from TV and the internet and if this show even gets one girl to change her ways and practice safe sex then its done its job. I think most girls watching these two shows would not think it's cool, I think it would scare the cr@p out of them or at least get them to think twice the next time they go out and have unprotected sex.
As for these girls being "famous".........they are not "famous". They are not running around advocating getting pregnant at 16 years old. They were merely sharing more of their story with different magazines as the show was airing to again, I feel, get the point across that it's NOT cool to get pregnant at 16 and it's NOT what they would have chosen for themselves. Honestly, once the show airs and ends truth be told, they are yesterday's news. In any case, I do think both shows show the ugly side of teen pregnancy and that it doesn't always end pleasantly, it doesn't always mean your boyfriend will love you forever, and it doesn't mean your life won't change..........dramatically. It's a glimpse into what NOT to do with your life.
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Re: NTTCR:16 & Pregnant.. . . vent
I love wathcing the show but its terrible for young girls to see.
these kids EACH make 60k from the show. so for each couple makes 120k. of course they can swing having a baby when your getting paid $ like that and living at home! they don't mention that!!
ETA- I get the idea MTV is going for, and its good, to teach girls how hard it really is, but when I watch the show, I feel like I really want a baby when the show is over. hard times and all. I'm afraid young girls who don't own a home, have a husband and really good jobs feel the same way. I don't think the show could do more to prove its not the right decision but I think they should make it known that these kids get a lot of money for doing the show, which makes their situation better.
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Re: NTTCR:16 & Pregnant.. . . vent
Posted by KellyM
I love wathcing the show but its terrible for young girls to see.
these kids EACH make 60k from the show. so for each couple makes 120k. of course they can swing having a baby when your getting paid $ like that and living at home! they don't mention that!!
ETA- I get the idea MTV is going for, and its good, to teach girls how hard it really is, but when I watch the show, I feel like I really want a baby when the show is over. hard times and all. I'm afraid young girls who don't own a home, have a husband and really good jobs feel the same way. I don't think the show could do more to prove its not the right decision but I think they should make it known that these kids get a lot of money for doing the show, which makes their situation better.
What would make you want a baby after watching the show? Would it be the fact that most of the boyfriends leave and these girls are left alone throughout their pregnancies? The fact that the girls are stressed and exhausted? The fact that they are essentially all alone raising a child at a young age? The fact that they have barely enough money to get by? Or the fact that they have little education and no chance at a good job? Sorry, but I don't see what part of the show would make you want a baby. Quite the opposite. I always wanted a husband, a house, a baby BUT even as a young girl I would not watch this show and think, "Hey, let's skip all this nonsense of education and husbands and get pregnant". That's just silly.
Again, people make the ignorant assumption that if we talk about something with our youth or give them information we are giving them "ideas" to get themselves into trouble. Good lord, regardless of anything anyone says teens are going to have sex and since most teens (and even kids) today are getting most, if not all, of their information from TV, magazines, and the internet why not have a show that highlights the struggles and difficulties facing a young mother?
Again, if the show even makes a difference in a handful of girls, if even just a few young girls decide to practice safe sex now when they didn't before then the show has done it's job. Nobody thinks anything bad will ever happen to them, even adults think that way sometimes, this show at least gives some insight as to how you're life can be ruined if you don't protect yourself and make wise choices.
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