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Re: I am so aggravated and appalled.

Posted by BJandDan

I also think some of the comments directed at LB (headover) are absolutely horrible. She is voicing an opinion that she feels strongly about, stop projecting hatred at her.




I think most of us have strong feelings about this topics. How could we not as women, mothers or simply as human beings.

I'm guessing you have a difference of opinion but I dont think anyone projected hatred on her (and I am also guessing that comment was directed towards me). I was probably overly aggressive and harsh but I never attacked her personally (ie. saying she, herself, was disgusting). I said I find the idea that she is more concerned about the rapist than the victim disgusting. Two different things in my eyes.

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Posted 10/29/10 9:52 PM
 
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Re: I am so aggravated and appalled.

Posted by jellybean1420

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I could understand being scared, but aggravated and appalled? How about concerned for his mental health? Should we just lock him up and throw away the key? And what if he is getting counseling, and doing well even - should he be shunned and harassed at school because of his prior history? Whatever happened to second chances? It saddens me that you are so "disgusted."




What is more aggravating and appalling is how you think a teenager who PRE-MEDITATED a rape of another teenage boy by going out and purchasing a date rape drug, drugging the boy, than raping and sodomizing him deserves a 2nd chance???? Chat Icon

Yes, everyone should be concerned about his mental health because IMO this is only an inkling of what this kid is going to be capable of in the future.

ETA: AND your're concerned about the rapist being shunned and harassed at school??? Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon

What about the boy he raped??? Don't you think everyone looks at him differently? Don't you think he feels embarrassed and may be shunned? Don't you think he will have to live with this for the rest of his life and this could have royally f'd him up mentally????

I FIND IT DISGUSTING THAT YOU ARE MORE CONCERNED WITH THE FEELINGS OF A RAPIST THAN THE FEELING OF A VICTIM!!!!



Could not agree more...

Posted 10/29/10 9:53 PM
 

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Re: I am so aggravated and appalled.

Posted by headoverheels

It is not likely that he just went to the detention center for a couple of months and then was sent home. He is more than likely on probation which includes mandatory counseling.

I could understand being scared, but aggravated and appalled? How about concerned for his mental health? Should we just lock him up and throw away the key? And what if he is getting counseling, and doing well even - should he be shunned and harassed at school because of his prior history? Whatever happened to second chances? It saddens me that you are so "disgusted."



Appalled, disgusting and putting a for sale sign on my house! She has EVERY right. Rapist and CHILD molestors do not deserve 2nd chances. How many times have we heard about repeat offender???? TOO MANY!!!

GIven the fact that he also fathered a child in the 7th grade obovisously there has been some kind of sexual abuse or deviancy in his own life and he is not breaking the cycle.


To be totally honest, I have had it with all this PC crap and rights-- lock em up!!

Example-- we had a kid busted on the next block for selling herion and roids. It was a HUGE bust. This is the 2nd time he was busted, the last time it was a weapons charge, but he was a minor. So he agrees to cooperate with the FBI-- that's how big, the FBI and DEA or invovled-- well he is still dealing, we all know it- and he is busted AGAIN, while working with the FBI in his house AGAIN and this time he is not coming out because he blew his deal. Enough with second and third chances. We condem cheaters by saying once a cheater always a cheater, well once a child molestor or abuser always one!!! Appauld is an understatment and it's not even my neighborhood!

Posted 10/29/10 10:03 PM
 

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Re: I am so aggravated and appalled.

Posted by Stacey1403

I find it a little hard to believe that this kid would be able to play sports and such without any kind of repercussionChat Icon I would think many, many parents would be outraged. I would think the victims family would fight this tooth and nail to get that kid away from other kids.

If it is true I would be super pizzed/fearful/upset, but I would investigate more to find out how true everything is. I have a feeling there may be some exaggeration in this story (not by the OP but by the ones telling it) I just can't see how there wouldn't be more public outrage.



I'm thinking this too. Again there is alot more to the story.

Message edited 10/29/2010 10:40:07 PM.

Posted 10/29/10 10:29 PM
 

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Re: I am so aggravated and appalled.

Posted by smdl
I do think he should have been in jail and trialed as an adult on the nature of his crime.

I could not agree more. I am wondering why he was tried as a minor.


Can you imagine what the raped boy is going through? He was raped and HE has to skip the game so he would not face the rapist. That's insane!!!!!

Agreed again - that poor child is being punished for being a victim. I am sorry but that is so wrong. What kind of message does this send? Not to mention that despite what the law dictates, the school has the right to take their own disciplinary action - they just need the brass ones to do it. Missing that much school alone could be grounds to dismiss him from the team.

I am also going to comment on headoverheels' posts. I am not saying that this particular child in this particular scenario is salvageable, but this rapist was an child too... with the potential and hope that we see in our kids. Somewhere, someone did something to this child (or ignored signs, or denied proper help if there is a mental illness here) that most likely led to a series of events that created a violent and criminal behaviour. All along, this kid was probably told over & over again how he was bad, a lost case, useless...etc. Could it be possible that if someone showed him some compassion at the right time in the right way, that maybe he could have seen enough value in his own life to begin to have some respect for the lives of others? If you tell a duck long enough that he is a chicken, he will eventually only know how to cluck.

To the OP. I am sorry you have to deal with this. Trying to raise your kids to be safe, happy and healthy is hard enough without such a present threat. I hope enough people keep an eye on this kid and maybe find a way to help everyone involved. I would definitely be more vigilant and would be disappointed in the way that the whole issue is being handled. Chat Icon

Posted 10/29/10 10:33 PM
 

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Re: I am so aggravated and appalled.

The likelihood of this happening again is pretty strong so I totally get where you are coming from. You really dont have to answer to anyone. Do yourself a favor and take some of the ideas/advice and see where you can go with this. There is so many resources of past cases dealing with the same exact issues. I cant imagine that anyone with a child would just blow it off like no big deal. It is a big deal and you have to protect your loved ones. Sorry you are going through this.Chat Icon

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Posted 10/30/10 8:03 AM
 

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Re: I am so aggravated and appalled.

Posted by Stacey1403

I find it a little hard to believe that this kid would be able to play sports and such without any kind of repercussionChat Icon I would think many, many parents would be outraged. I would think the victims family would fight this tooth and nail to get that kid away from other kids.

If it is true I would be super pizzed/fearful/upset, but I would investigate more to find out how true everything is. I have a feeling there may be some exaggeration in this story (not by the OP but by the ones telling it) I just can't see how there wouldn't be more public outrage.



ITA. If all the details are indeed fact (and I'm not saying the OP is untruthful, but this is the kind of story that can grow by leaps and bounds on its own) I'd find it hard to believe that he'd be allowed to play on a sports team. If he really did all those things he's clearly ill and that's a tragedy, but the safety of others should be a priority. I'd be very upset and scared if that child was my neighbor.

Posted 10/30/10 8:46 AM
 

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Re: I am so aggravated and appalled.

Posted by jellybean1420

Posted by BJandDan

I also think some of the comments directed at LB (headover) are absolutely horrible. She is voicing an opinion that she feels strongly about, stop projecting hatred at her.




I think most of us have strong feelings about this topics. How could we not as women, mothers or simply as human beings.

I'm guessing you have a difference of opinion but I dont think anyone projected hatred on her (and I am also guessing that comment was directed towards me). I was probably overly aggressive and harsh but I never attacked her personally (ie. saying she, herself, was disgusting). I said I find the idea that she is more concerned about the rapist than the victim disgusting. Two different things in my eyes.



Just want to throw this out there since I see both sides.

First, to defend LB. We are both in fields where we deal with these types of children often. First, if everything that the alleged rapist was accused of was 100% completely true, not even the best, craftiest attorney could get this child home in that short period of time. No way. I can tell you from someone who represented children such as the alleged rapist that first, this child would not be just sentenced to a juvenile detention. No way. Why? First, there is a liability issue on the state-if you put a child who is a sex offender in a juvenile facility and they harm another child, there would be a TON of lawsuits against OCFS (the agency in NY that runs the detention centers and many of the residential centers). Second, the aim of the juvenile system is to rehabilitate, not to just punish. This child would definitely be placed in a facility geared to sex offenders. The minimum placement would be a year and I can guarantee that the year would be extended over and over until the child is 18. Once the facility feels that the child is ready to transition back to society, so many safeguards are put into place-monitoring, counseling, short visits supervised by mental health professionals. These perpetrators are very highly monitored. This is why honestly, the story doesn't line up. I know and highly respect the Family Court and its judges and at least in Suffolk, there is not ONE judge who would permit a child to receive a short sentence and come back into the community with just an OP to stay away from the victim. But, people do talk and get outraged, rightfully so, and stories change. Unless this took place somewhere outside of NY where I do not know the laws and procedures, I have my doubts about the whole thing. Not that I am saying that a parent doesn't have a right to feel a certain way. I am just trying to show LB's point and explain to other posters that sometimes, things aren't what they seem. I reiterate, there is no court in NY that would allow this child to return home and live amongst other young children if what the OP described happened, or anything close honestly. And I can also say that I've had enough cases with sex offender children to see the whole process and to know that they are not just let out to live amongst other children, as it does no one good, not the victim, the respondent, or the other children in the neighborhood.

As a parent, I do understand everyone's outrage. Trust me, I would never want a convicted rapist, child or not near my kid. Period. I don't blame anyone else for being angry or scared either. But, then again, as an officer of the court, like LB, I do know that I really don't have to worry about a child like that being out and about with so little consequence by the court.

Posted 10/30/10 9:07 AM
 

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Re: I am so aggravated and appalled.

Sorry, but parts of this story sound completely fabricated to make it more sensational. I'm not saying the OP is a liar, I'm saying whoever starting telling the story seems to have added their own embellishments.


Posted 10/30/10 9:45 AM
 

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Re: I am so aggravated and appalled.

I am aggravated and appalled at some of the comments on this thread.

Posted 10/30/10 9:52 AM
 

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Re: I am so aggravated and appalled.

Posted by munchkinfacemama
Just want to throw this out there since I see both sides.

First, to defend LB. We are both in fields where we deal with these types of children often. First, if everything that the alleged rapist was accused of was 100% completely true, not even the best, craftiest attorney could get this child home in that short period of time. No way. I can tell you from someone who represented children such as the alleged rapist that first, this child would not be just sentenced to a juvenile detention. No way. Why? First, there is a liability issue on the state-if you put a child who is a sex offender in a juvenile facility and they harm another child, there would be a TON of lawsuits against OCFS (the agency in NY that runs the detention centers and many of the residential centers). Second, the aim of the juvenile system is to rehabilitate, not to just punish. This child would definitely be placed in a facility geared to sex offenders. The minimum placement would be a year and I can guarantee that the year would be extended over and over until the child is 18. Once the facility feels that the child is ready to transition back to society, so many safeguards are put into place-monitoring, counseling, short visits supervised by mental health professionals. These perpetrators are very highly monitored. This is why honestly, the story doesn't line up. I know and highly respect the Family Court and its judges and at least in Suffolk, there is not ONE judge who would permit a child to receive a short sentence and come back into the community with just an OP to stay away from the victim. But, people do talk and get outraged, rightfully so, and stories change. Unless this took place somewhere outside of NY where I do not know the laws and procedures, I have my doubts about the whole thing. Not that I am saying that a parent doesn't have a right to feel a certain way. I am just trying to show LB's point and explain to other posters that sometimes, things aren't what they seem. I reiterate, there is no court in NY that would allow this child to return home and live amongst other young children if what the OP described happened, or anything close honestly. And I can also say that I've had enough cases with sex offender children to see the whole process and to know that they are not just let out to live amongst other children, as it does no one good, not the victim, the respondent, or the other children in the neighborhood.

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I, too, worked with many children like this in various residential facilities for a number of years. I also am familiar with many of the family court judges in Nassau and Suffolk. I think there has to be more to the story. (OP, not saying you are lying or leaving out details at all...there may just be other details that u don't know about.)

I know many judges who have sent kids to placement facilities for 6+ plus just for repeated, minor (non-criminal) issues. I can't imagine that they would sent a juv sex offender away only for a few months and then just release them home. Often upon completing a sex offender program in a residential setting, they will be sent to a less restrictive residential setting, such as a therapeutic group home as a way to transition them back into society. That comes w/ all kinds of counseling and monitoring. Even if the child was released directly home, they are often sent to some type of Day School (for girls, a place like Madonna Heights) so that they are still in a structured school setting.

Regardless, I would be worried and scared in that (even the rumor of it) was happening in my neighborhood. Chat Icon

Posted 10/30/10 9:52 AM
 

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Re: I am so aggravated and appalled.

I don't trust the legal system enough to believe that a child *couldn't* be let out in that short of time. It happens ALL the time with adult sex offenders, who end up repeating their crime and end up killing their victims. So I honestly think it could potentially be no different with a child.

I would be informing every single parent I know and getting the media involved. Names don't need to be (and can't be) released, but the incident should be. The parents of children in that school and neighborhood have the right to know a rapist is among them so they can be on guard at all times and teach their children the same.

There should be a registry for ALL offenders, regardless of age.

Posted 10/30/10 9:54 AM
 

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Re: I am so aggravated and appalled.

Posted by BargainMama

I don't trust the legal system enough to believe that a child *couldn't* be let out in that short of time. It happens ALL the time with adult sex offenders, who end up repeating their crime and end up killing their victims. So I honestly think it could potentially be no different with a child.

I would be informing every single parent I know and getting the media involved. Names don't need to be (and can't be) released, but the incident should be. The parents of children in that school and neighborhood have the right to know a rapist is among them so they can be on guard at all times and teach their children the same.

There should be a registry for ALL offenders, regardless of age.



ITA!!!!

There are SO MANY cases we hear of where people are let off with a slap on the wrist only to go on and do it again and again... and then it escalates to murder before they are caught again. Had they not had such a light sentence to begin with... there would be so many people still living today.

I'm not saying that there aren't harsher sentences for some people like others have listed above... but there are also those who get away without barely a scrape.

I don't have that much faith in the legal system... If I did....there wouldn't be such a thing as "repeat offenders" because they wouldn't be out in the first place to repeat their crimes.

I feel the legal system is much more harsh on drug related charges then they are with sexual abuse cases... both with minors and adults. I think the legal system as whole... its twisted and flawed in so very many ways.

I think both adults and children offenders should be on a national registry.

I also think there should be an animal abuse registry. Not just to protect the animals... but I think a lot of people who start harming animals at a young age, usually graduate to harming humans not long after....

ETA: And whose to say that the abusers defense wasn't "it was consensual and he took the drugs himself"??? Could that cause doubt and get him a lighter sentence than he deserved??

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Posted 10/30/10 10:09 AM
 

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Re: I am so aggravated and appalled.

This is from USA Today

The Adam Walsh Child Protection and Safety Act, however, requires states to adopt uniform registry rules or risk losing certain federal funds. The act, passed in 2006, requires teens 14 and older to register if they commit serious sex crimes, which can include touching the genitals of someone younger than 12.

Offenders have to register every three months; failure to do so is a felony. The Justice Department says only Ohio has put the law into effect.

This is from wikipedia:
The Adam Walsh Child Protection and Safety Act[1] is a federal statute that was signed into law by U.S. President George W. Bush on July 27, 2006. The Walsh Act organizes sex offenders into three tiers and mandates that Tier 3 offenders (the most serious tier) update their whereabouts every three months with lifetime registration requirements. Tier 2 offenders must update their whereabouts every six months with 25 years of registration, and Tier 1 offenders (which includes minors as young as 14 years of age) must update their whereabouts every year with 15 years of registration. Failure to register and update information is a felony under the law.

How old is this kid??

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Posted 10/30/10 10:28 AM
 

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Re: I am so aggravated and appalled.

Posted by munchkinfacemama

Just want to throw this out there since I see both sides.

First, to defend LB. We are both in fields where we deal with these types of children often. First, if everything that the alleged rapist was accused of was 100% completely true, not even the best, craftiest attorney could get this child home in that short period of time. No way. I can tell you from someone who represented children such as the alleged rapist that first, this child would not be just sentenced to a juvenile detention. No way. Why? First, there is a liability issue on the state-if you put a child who is a sex offender in a juvenile facility and they harm another child, there would be a TON of lawsuits against OCFS (the agency in NY that runs the detention centers and many of the residential centers). Second, the aim of the juvenile system is to rehabilitate, not to just punish. This child would definitely be placed in a facility geared to sex offenders. The minimum placement would be a year and I can guarantee that the year would be extended over and over until the child is 18. Once the facility feels that the child is ready to transition back to society, so many safeguards are put into place-monitoring, counseling, short visits supervised by mental health professionals. These perpetrators are very highly monitored. This is why honestly, the story doesn't line up. I know and highly respect the Family Court and its judges and at least in Suffolk, there is not ONE judge who would permit a child to receive a short sentence and come back into the community with just an OP to stay away from the victim. But, people do talk and get outraged, rightfully so, and stories change. Unless this took place somewhere outside of NY where I do not know the laws and procedures, I have my doubts about the whole thing. Not that I am saying that a parent doesn't have a right to feel a certain way. I am just trying to show LB's point and explain to other posters that sometimes, things aren't what they seem. I reiterate, there is no court in NY that would allow this child to return home and live amongst other young children if what the OP described happened, or anything close honestly. And I can also say that I've had enough cases with sex offender children to see the whole process and to know that they are not just let out to live amongst other children, as it does no one good, not the victim, the respondent, or the other children in the neighborhood.

As a parent, I do understand everyone's outrage. Trust me, I would never want a convicted rapist, child or not near my kid. Period. I don't blame anyone else for being angry or scared either. But, then again, as an officer of the court, like LB, I do know that I really don't have to worry about a child like that being out and about with so little consequence by the court.




I agree there has to be more to the story than what the OP may even know regarding any kind of sentencing or punishment this kid may have received but it seems the main issue, this child committing the crime and back in the regular school system living in a neighborhood with children, remains the same which is SCARY!!!!

My DH is a cop and has a good friend who works in the sex crimes division. Part of his job is following up on convicted offenders in NYC and he doesnt have as much faith in the legal system as you do because he sees the type of people they put back on the street.

Posted 10/30/10 11:04 AM
 

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Re: I am so aggravated and appalled.

oh my god! i am livid reading this. this "kid" doesn't deserve a second chance. lock him up and throw away the key. it's MY KIDS that i would be concerned about. it's MY KIDS that could be raped or worse.

yeah, it's horrible that this kid has problems and i hope they get him help, but protect MY KIDS by letting ME know what is living on my street. let ME make decisions based on his decisions. and MY decision would probably be to move at that point. that kid is going to do much worse as he gets older.

to the OP, i am so sorry you have to live like this.Chat Icon

Posted 10/30/10 11:04 AM
 

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Re: I am so aggravated and appalled.

I can totally relate Barb! When all is said and done, protecting our precious children is 100% the right thing to do!

Err on the side of caution in the protetion of our children!Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon


ETA: When I was 18 a friend called me in the night to come stay with her at a families house where she was babysitting while the parents were out of town. She said she was scared by the demeanor of the 14 y/o in the house. HIs siter was 8. I went and I immediately felt hinky about the whole situation. (parents had lied about some problems they were having with the son). WEll that kid didn't like me because I wasn't putting up with his BS. Shortly after I was standing outside by their pool and the 14y/o came out and he had a hand gun pointed at me!
(she was told there were firearms in the house but not to worry they were locked up) well the kid laughed and said
he had the key. I froze and thought , this is it, I'm dead. I don't know how I did it but instead of shooting me he lobbed the gun at me and it grazed my head.Chat Icon I called the cops and had my friends dad come over , as he was physically beating in her car with his fists.

The family hemed and hawed and then admitted that their son han some emotional problems.Chat Icon

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Posted 10/30/10 2:53 PM
 

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Re: I am so aggravated and appalled.

Thank you everyone for responding.

I will admit, I don't know every single little detail. I don't know why he was in detention for so little time, why he is back in school, if he is on probation, what kind of therapy he is going through etc. All I know is that what he did is very true. It was confirmed to me once again by another parent (my daughter is friends with her daughter) who's sister is principal at another middle school in the district.

For those of you who asked, he's 13.

I even now know who he did this to. It was the type of kid who gets picked on.

As for the football game, this mother was at the game last week and said he was booed off the field. She said he walked off with a smug attitude like who he was.

The laws need to be changed. What if he did this to my kids -- how would I feel finding out after the fact that he had done it before? At least now I can take the precautions that I need to.

I'm sorry, but he got his hands on drugs and raped someone. He committed an adult crime, he needs to be treated like one.

Posted 10/30/10 3:06 PM
 

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Re: I am so aggravated and appalled.

I'm surprised the parents at the new school aren't outraged too. If my son was on the football team I wouldn't want him in the locker room the kid.

Posted 10/30/10 5:09 PM
 

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Re: I am so aggravated and appalled.

Posted by jellybean1420

Posted by BJandDan

I also think some of the comments directed at LB (headover) are absolutely horrible. She is voicing an opinion that she feels strongly about, stop projecting hatred at her.




I think most of us have strong feelings about this topics. How could we not as women, mothers or simply as human beings.

I'm guessing you have a difference of opinion but I dont think anyone projected hatred on her (and I am also guessing that comment was directed towards me). I was probably overly aggressive and harsh but I never attacked her personally (ie. saying she, herself, was disgusting). I said I find the idea that she is more concerned about the rapist than the victim disgusting. Two different things in my eyes.



I was not directing this at any one person, and really not you at all.Chat Icon There were several comments made that I personally felt were almost wishing ill towards her.

Posted 10/30/10 7:23 PM
 

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Re: I am so aggravated and appalled.

This boy is very dangerous and I would be very careful around him. To be acting out at such a young age and with such premeditation is frightening. There are no known programs to rehabitilate sexual offenders and I would bet my house that he will offend again. Be careful around him...very careful.

I will add that I worked with a few juvenille sexual offenders so this isn't just something I'm pulling out of the air. I wish there was known programs that are proven to help since this boy is most likely a victim himself.

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Posted 10/30/10 8:59 PM
 

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Re: I am so aggravated and appalled.

Posted by MrsKS

Posted by jellybean1420

Posted by headoverheels

I could understand being scared, but aggravated and appalled? How about concerned for his mental health? Should we just lock him up and throw away the key? And what if he is getting counseling, and doing well even - should he be shunned and harassed at school because of his prior history? Whatever happened to second chances? It saddens me that you are so "disgusted."




What is more aggravating and appalling is how you think a teenager who PRE-MEDITATED a rape of another teenage boy by going out and purchasing a date rape drug, drugging the boy, than raping and sodomizing him deserves a 2nd chance???? Chat Icon

Yes, everyone should be concerned about his mental health because IMO this is only an inkling of what this kid is going to be capable of in the future.

ETA: AND your're concerned about the rapist being shunned and harassed at school??? Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon

What about the boy he raped??? Don't you think everyone looks at him differently? Don't you think he feels embarrassed and may be shunned? Don't you think he will have to live with this for the rest of his life and this could have royally f'd him up mentally????



ITA Jellybean!!!!



Me too

Posted 10/30/10 9:59 PM
 

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Re: I am so aggravated and appalled.

What is sad is that at some point this was an innocent baby. Born as a blank slate and some horrible things were probably done to him (more than likely sexually violated himself and given the nature of his crime I am sure on more than one occasion) to make him into a monster. Yes I feel that he is a monster but at 13 he is not the only one to blame but sadly no one else will be prosecuted and punished and I'm guessing the family he is coming from isn't going to do anything helpful in rehabilitating him. So while he may deserve a second chance I don't think it will do any good because the people involved in that second chance are likely the ones who molded him into the sick, sick child he is today. He should still be locked up somewhere and away from any pleasures in life at this point.

Posted 10/30/10 10:30 PM
 

karacg
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Kara®

Re: I am so aggravated and appalled.

I am sorry but this POS's "rights" ended where the poor victim's began....or should have began, but his rights (to be safe, innocence, etc.) were taken away from him. It was the rapist's decision to give the vistim a drug and rape him -- and now it is society's responsibility to make sure he never has that "right" again.....

To the OP, I would do whatever you need to do. Tell your neighbors, contact your councilperson, talk to the school district...Yell, scream, whatever! He should be registered like any other sex offender and shouldn't be allowed to live near children. I don't care what the law says, this is what IMO SHOULD be....

Posted 10/30/10 11:53 PM
 

munchkinfacemama
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Name:
Michelle

Re: I am so aggravated and appalled.

Posted by 4ForMe

Thank you everyone for responding.

I will admit, I don't know every single little detail. I don't know why he was in detention for so little time, why he is back in school, if he is on probation, what kind of therapy he is going through etc. All I know is that what he did is very true. It was confirmed to me once again by another parent (my daughter is friends with her daughter) who's sister is principal at another middle school in the district.

For those of you who asked, he's 13.

I even now know who he did this to. It was the type of kid who gets picked on.

As for the football game, this mother was at the game last week and said he was booed off the field. She said he walked off with a smug attitude like who he was.

The laws need to be changed. What if he did this to my kids -- how would I feel finding out after the fact that he had done it before? At least now I can take the precautions that I need to.

I'm sorry, but he got his hands on drugs and raped someone. He committed an adult crime, he needs to be treated like one.




What county do you live in?

If it is Suffolk, I know without a shadow of doubt that he was placed in detention for something OTHER than the alleged rape. Why? Because I know that only the administrative judge handles JD cases and there is no way in HELL that this kid would be back in the general population at this point. This is why while I was skeptical about the veracity of everything to begin with.

But if this is true, then I really believe that this kid was not charged for what was done. If that is the case, the victim's family really should be contacting the police ASAP who will take a report and then forward either the the DA or County Attorney.

Posted 10/31/10 6:43 AM
 
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