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How do you handle nearly 2-year old tantrums?
Looking for advice!
I have read "Happiest Toddler on the Block" and I try to use those methods but the 2 major problems are A) I feel like that book assumes that you always KNOW what the child wants and that's not always the case for us and B) I feel like it doesn't give you a good enough strategy for when the child CAN'T have what he is asking for (I tried their "fast food" or whatever way and it worked when I could give him what he wanted, but not when I couldn't).
We had family over yesterday which is kind of rare for us since we live in CA, but my ILs were staying with us and my BIL was staying with my local BIL so there were like 9 people over.
Loey was FLIPPING OUT over the smallest things! It's kind of embarrassing, KWIM? And then he would hit, throw himself on the floor, knock everything off the coffee table, pick up toys and throw them... etc. Sometimes I just don't know how to react!
What do you do during a tantrum?
Sometimes I think I am "too nice" but for example like with yesterday, Loey has been sick and is on medication... plus we moved his crib to our room and then he woke up at 5:30 am (but did take a 3 hour nap). But DH thinks I'm "making excuses" for his behavior.
ALSO - DH is the "yeller" and I'm just not and this becomes something that DH and I will disagree about too... When is yelling appropriate? I only "yell" for dangerous things.
Would love any/all parenting thoughts, ideas, comments, advice... whatever!
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Re: How do you handle nearly 2-year old tantrums?
Dev just posted a book about this.. It's called 123 Magic and it's for 2-12 year olds. I'm not sure it's specifically for tantrums though, but discipline in general. Maybe it would help?
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Posted 10/31/11 1:55 PM |
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Re: How do you handle nearly 2-year old tantrums?
I ignore him. I wont give him an audience or give attention to his bad behavior. If he throws himself on the floor i leave and he'll get up and follow me and finish screaming there. so i leave the room again. he then gets bored with it and eventually stops. Hes screaming to get a reaction out of me and I wont give him one. Sounds mean but it works for us.
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Re: How do you handle nearly 2-year old tantrums?
For tantrums what I GENERALLY do is ignore and redirect. I'll try a few things to get his attention on something I think he'll like (a toy, a game, throwing a ball, putting on Yo Gabba Gabba, stuff like that). When we're out somewhere, I completely remove him from the situation and put on a stern face but otherwise try not to react.
I TRY to yell only in dangerous situations (usually it's him climbing on something high that he's sure to fall off of), but if he gets in something that I've already told him 5 times not to do, I will yell (even though I would love not to, it's just a natural reaction by that point).
My DH puts DS in the play pen/room when he's misbehaving, but I've asked him repeatedly not to because that's his play area, not his punishment area. I started doing time out recently (1 minute) when he won't listen, but I haven't done that for tantrums.
I'm sure someone else will have better ideas too!
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Re: How do you handle nearly 2-year old tantrums?
Ooh something else too. Sometimes when he's about to throw one he'll start to cry, stomp his feet and I'll look at him with a super confused expression and say something like "what's wrong? why are you crying?" and it's sometimes enough to get him to chillax for some reason. I'll ask him, what do you want? Mommy help? Where's your XYZ (toy, sippy, whatever)? so that he'll look for it. Seems to work before it gets full blown.
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Re: How do you handle nearly 2-year old tantrums?
I have set up the pack and play in the living room so when she is throwing a fit I put her in there until she calms down. DD is a little younger, 17 months, but it gives her something to cry about, to get out and she forgets what she was crying about in the first place. Then I pick her up after a minute and calm her down.
I try to ignore it but it doesn't always work and dh can't ignore it for the life of him.
I want to try that book mentioned above 123 "something" haha can't remember the name
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Re: How do you handle nearly 2-year old tantrums?
I don't really yell (unless it's danger) but I do speak sharply to him.
if he is doing something mean like hitting or swatting he gets a "LUCI_AN- que es eso...deja!" Lucian, what is that! stop doing it"
I will count to three, if he continues, he gets an immediate time out.
in the corner, facing the wall. he tries to escape I put him right back. I count to five...if he calms down he can get out.
he is ususally fine after the time out.
for things like not letting him have something he wants but can't have, I tell him no, explain why...tell him I am sorry he's sad but it's still NO and we move on. if he continues carrying on, I walk away or completely remove myself from his misery. he usually follows suit.
I find that when he is completely amok it is b/c he IS tired. and I really hate to dsicipline him when I know it's most likely my fault he's so tired lol then I'll throw him in the bath and let him mellow out in there...until it's a good time to get him to bed.
bath always works. it just does the trick. warm bath, his favorite toys and some time to just BE.
I HATE yelling. I grew up in a house of yellers and it's my natural instinct but I hate it, so I try to avoid it. and when I do yell, he stops immediately like "whoa...now I know it's bad" yelling too much decreases efficacy. it did for me and it's what I have witnessed with most kids in my family.
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Re: How do you handle nearly 2-year old tantrums?
If jack is throwing himself on the floor and crying I walk away and let him work it out. I will not give in to that. usually within 5 min he's back to himself. other times he'll still be crying and coming over to me mad and i have to ignore him. I'll gently push him into his playroom to try to distract him.
when the throwing or hitting starts, in time out he goes. and I have no problem raising my voice. Doesnt have to be yelling, but louder and more stern than normal, and he knows im not joking. when he's in his pack and play for time out, i walk into another room until he's done.
times when he's had metldowns in a store, i've been the mother that carries out the crazy crying kid..lol.
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Re: How do you handle nearly 2-year old tantrums?
Posted by LoveyQ
Dev just posted a book about this.. It's called 123 Magic and it's for 2-12 year olds. I'm not sure it's specifically for tantrums though, but discipline in general. Maybe it would help?
We started doing 1,2,3 magic and it has changed our life with discipline. I was going crazy and started yelling and found myself sitting on my hads because I wanted to smack her
Get the book...it's easy and it really works!
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Re: How do you handle nearly 2-year old tantrums?
Posted by Peainapod
times when he's had metldowns in a store, i've been the mother that carries out the crazy crying kid..lol.
I pick him right up too. no problems here
even the best behaved kids had their moments so anyone staring at me can suck it.
ETA: can someone tell me what else, besides counting to 3, the book talks about?
thanks!
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maybeamommy
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Re: How do you handle nearly 2-year old tantrums?
Thanks everyone!
I have been trying to do time outs - we started them at 12 months! But lately they have not been working as well. He doesn't want to stay there, so I have to physically hold him there and it gets really hard because I'm pregnant and he moves around so much that he will end up accidentally hurting me.
I do my own counting 1-2-3 and it works sometimes also, but not consistently. I tell him a consequence that will come when I get to 3 and I make sure to always follow through. Is that the right way to go about it??
I also try to ignore his tantrums, but sometimes I can't because he will do destructive things - he will hit our dog, throw something that can break, hit me/DH, etc. What do I do in that situation??
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Posted 10/31/11 2:22 PM |
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Re: How do you handle nearly 2-year old tantrums?
A child under the age of 2 is not "behaving badly" or "manipulating" IMO.
He/she is a BABY and is reacting to something. Either he/she is tired, hungry, scared, cold, hot, overstimulated, or just plan unhappy. There is no "dealing with" it... you remove the child from the situation, try to calm them down, and move on. Yelling or punishing at that age is a waste of time.
JMHO
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Re: How do you handle nearly 2-year old tantrums?
Posted by MrsGmomof3
A child under the age of 2 is not "behaving badly" or "manipulating" IMO.
He/she is a BABY and is reacting to something. Either he/she is tired, hungry, scared, cold, hot, overstimulated, or just plan unhappy. There is no "dealing with" it... you remove the child from the situation, try to calm them down, and move on. Yelling or punishing at that age is a waste of time.
JMHO
How do you do this though? I guess I'm looking for more real life advice than theory KWIM? I want to know how I can actually put these ideas into practice.
Let's say he wants ME to get him a granola bar but I'm busy doing something else. I tell him Daddy will get it for him. He goes over and says NO DADDY and hits DH. When DH gives him the granola bar, he crumbles it onto the floor and screams.
What do I do? I feel like I'm doing him a disservice by always giving in, KWIM?
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Re: How do you handle nearly 2-year old tantrums?
I agree with you. I feel like DD who is 16 months is just too young to really KNOW what she wants or to be able to express it to me or to be able to understand when I do all those techniques.
I feel like it's just frustration on her part- because she KNOWS what she wants and can't tell us.
I am reading the responses on this thread though to see what everyone else does and what works! I"ll try anything once!
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Posted 10/31/11 2:41 PM |
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Re: How do you handle nearly 2-year old tantrums?
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How do you do this though? I guess I'm looking for more real life advice than theory KWIM? I want to know how I can actually put these ideas into practice.
Let's say he wants ME to get him a granola bar but I'm busy doing something else. I tell him Daddy will get it for him. He goes over and says NO DADDY and hits DH. When DH gives him the granola bar, he crumbles it onto the floor and screams.
What do I do? I feel like I'm doing him a disservice by always giving in, KWIM?
in this situation, after he hits, he gets NOTHING. and I tell him why. You hit people that is NOT nice and they will not do nice things for you if you are not nice.
does he totally get it? maybe...but for sure he gets the gist of it.
like this morning...one of his markers fell off the table so I laughed and picked it up. then he started to make like he was going to knock it off the table and I told him no, that I won't pick it up b/c that is not a game.
so then he starts inching the entire box towards the edge of the table...I tell him "if you knock the box on the floor, no more drawing for you"
he knocks the box on the floor.
so I go, pick up the markers put them in the box and put his paper away.
drawing is OVEr for today. he screams. too bad. we go wash him hands. he gets distracted by the water running over his chubby little fingers and forgets his whole drama.
goes off to play with something else.
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Re: How do you handle nearly 2-year old tantrums?
in that specific instance where he is throwing things and being destructive.. I would remove him from the room. close the door but stay in there will him and have him calm down.. when he is calm enough to rejoin the group..then leave the room.. but while in the room let him calm down then explain why he's there..
eta: the granola bar issue.. I agree with Jess...he doesn't get one b/c he hit. when he asks daddy nicely..Please... then he can have one.. and you tell him that... he def has an issue with you vs DH...
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Posted 10/31/11 2:47 PM |
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Re: How do you handle nearly 2-year old tantrums?
Posted by MrsGmomof3
A child under the age of 2 is not "behaving badly" or "manipulating" IMO.
He/she is a BABY and is reacting to something. Either he/she is tired, hungry, scared, cold, hot, overstimulated, or just plan unhappy. There is no "dealing with" it... you remove the child from the situation, try to calm them down, and move on. Yelling or punishing at that age is a waste of time.
JMHO
My first step, is to stop and remind myself of this. Check anything that can be bothering him. (toddlers are like emotional basket cases with 10x the pms we'll ever have) .. then ask him if its bothering him. More often than not, he will react with a whine, a plea, or give me a sign to know I'm right. I'll repeat it with words, and say I'm sorry he didn't get it. Remind him to use words, that mommy understands words better than cries and screams. and talk to someone else about them "I wish I could understand Noah, but he's screaming"
and when they are good talk about them too "Noah uses such good words, I love to hear Noah talk!"
As for the OPs questions about Happiest Toddler. You don't know what is wrong half the time. What I do is say "I can see you are very upset" Sometimes they don't know what they are so upset over, but they like to know that you are noticing, and they like you to mention it!
We have a board book called "I love you through and through" When ever he is emotional, I bring up that book and ask him "are you like this baby" ... there are babies in there that are mad, sad, crying, eating, etc. Give them an outlet for their crazy feelings. Its like half way there. I think I'm going to expand on this and create a carry along flashcards of emotion pictures. If I'm desperate I'll distract, but its often my very last resort and that way it keeps the distraction effect fresh.
So if DS is going hysterical over something he wants, but can't have. I tell him I know he wants it, its great thing, and I want it to. But we can't do that right now and give a little reason.
"You want to go outside? Really? I want to go too!" "But we can't go outside its very cold and you might get sick and hurt, I don't want you to get hurt"
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"you want to ride that big green garbage truck! wow its great truck! but its not for babies, its for men and ladies, no even mommy can go" ... he always just whine and cries after this "Wow you are really upset that you can't ride it! I know you really want to!" and I don't know why exactly, but its like instant calm after that.
I'm a yeller by nature, but I reserve my yelling for DH it has little effect on DS, he thinks I'm being funny.
Also, in situations where DS is physically out of control. He gets removed and physically restrained. "I can see you are very mad, but I wont let you hurt yourself or anyone else." "stop, look at my eyes/nose/eyebrows" "tell me, with your words, what you want, or show me what you want"
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Re: How do you handle nearly 2-year old tantrums?
Hayley, I just wanted to add that I am really super strict about sticking to what I say and what he can and cannot do and it is really HARD sometimes b/c it would be easier to let it slide BUT I feel like he needs to know that I mean what I saw when I say it and that there is NO room for negotiation.
I am a total mushpot sap with him. I snuggle and huggle and kiss him ALL.DAY.LONG...but I hop to and put him right in line when he starts up. It's harder on me I think b/c it is hard to say no and see him cry and be sad. but I do feel like (or at least I hope) that setting these rules as just facts of his life (when mommy says it, she means it, be nice, not listening is automatic "uh-oh") it is my hope that moving forward he will just know what I expect and I won't have to be so quick to discipline him.
my react very swiftly right now with justice, he never gets more than 3 chances (if that).
SO FAR he's really not a terror and although I think it's more his personality than any awesome parenting on my part, he seems to be getting the concept that "mami doesn't play"
it's so hard when they are so lovable and squishy and we just want them to be happy. just remember that you are only helping him by teaching him what not to do.
remember my mantra
No means I love you!
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Re: How do you handle nearly 2-year old tantrums?
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"You want to go outside? Really? I want to go too!" "But we can't go outside its very cold and you might get sick and hurt, I don't want you to get hurt"
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"you want to ride that big green garbage truck! wow its great truck! but its not for babies, its for men and ladies, no even mommy can go" ... he always just whine and cries after this "Wow you are really upset that you can't ride it! I know you really want to!" and I don't know why exactly, but its like instant calm after that.
I do this too, but I really think it's just a form of distraction, except you are doing it with your voice. they get so caught up in the description that they kind of get knocked off course...I did it a lot more when he was a young toddler....now I see when he is being more "let's see what mami will do if I do THIS"
it's really an amazing time in their brains...I think they are capable of a lot more naughtly than we give them credit for.
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Re: How do you handle nearly 2-year old tantrums?
Posted by maybeamommy How do you do this though? I guess I'm looking for more real life advice than theory KWIM? I want to know how I can actually put these ideas into practice.
Let's say he wants ME to get him a granola bar but I'm busy doing something else. I tell him Daddy will get it for him. He goes over and says NO DADDY and hits DH. When DH gives him the granola bar, he crumbles it onto the floor and screams.
What do I do? I feel like I'm doing him a disservice by always giving in, KWIM?
In these kinds of situations, do you usually go and get him the granola bar (or whatever he wants you to get him)? If so I think he's learned that if he cries enough and denies it from Daddy when daddy gets it, he knows mommy will come do it. I think you should stop completely. If you say Daddy will do it, then daddy does it. If he throws it, I would pick up and put/throw away and explain he doesn't get any now. And if he hits, same. I don't think it's the easy answer, but I think eventually he will get it (although it might take a while to break his habit). Not easy, no, but in the end you want him to get out of that habit so you have to break it IMO.
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Re: How do you handle nearly 2-year old tantrums?
Posted by maybeamommy
Let's say he wants ME to get him a granola bar but I'm busy doing something else. I tell him Daddy will get it for him. He goes over and says NO DADDY and hits DH. When DH gives him the granola bar, he crumbles it onto the floor and screams.
What do I do? I feel like I'm doing him a disservice by always giving in, KWIM?
He is asking for your attention not the granola bar, I think. 20/20 in hindsight..., but try to rule out the usual suspects of what is bothering him, "hungry, thirsty, cold, hot, diaper, attention, boredom"
If you are genuinely busy, stop for a second to look him in the face, say "mommy is busy, if you wait, I will will be with you in a minute"
I wouldn't say "Daddy will get it for you" I will say, "do you want granola?" "mommy is busy, can you ask daddy?" My guess is that he'll scream "no!". So you can work on giving him the attention he's looking for, teaching him how to ask for it, and patience.
Try to open up some options for him. If he wants granola, maybe talk to him about which flavor he wants while your doing whatever you are doing.
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Re: How do you handle nearly 2-year old tantrums?
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"You want to go outside? Really? I want to go too!" "But we can't go outside its very cold and you might get sick and hurt, I don't want you to get hurt"
or
"you want to ride that big green garbage truck! wow its great truck! but its not for babies, its for men and ladies, no even mommy can go" ... he always just whine and cries after this "Wow you are really upset that you can't ride it! I know you really want to!" and I don't know why exactly, but its like instant calm after that.
I do this too, but I really think it's just a form of distraction, except you are doing it with your voice. they get so caught up in the description that they kind of get knocked off course...I did it a lot more when he was a young toddler....now I see when he is being more "let's see what mami will do if I do THIS"
it's really an amazing time in their brains...I think they are capable of a lot more naughtly than we give them credit for.
yeah I'm sure your right, I'm just at the tip of the iceberg now I'm sure.
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Re: How do you handle nearly 2-year old tantrums?
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yeah I'm sure your right, I'm just at the tip of the iceberg now I'm sure.
maybe not. the awesome thing about learning your child and what works and what doesn't is that when you get it right, that titanic blow never comes...and the sailing is relatively smooth. it could very well be that you have a bead on him and that is great.
we have (thus far) a relatively smooth home, with only minor torments here and there. I wish the same for all us toddler moms. it's a scary scary world during the storms.
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maybeamommy
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Re: How do you handle nearly 2-year old tantrums?
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Posted by maybeamommy
Let's say he wants ME to get him a granola bar but I'm busy doing something else. I tell him Daddy will get it for him. He goes over and says NO DADDY and hits DH. When DH gives him the granola bar, he crumbles it onto the floor and screams.
What do I do? I feel like I'm doing him a disservice by always giving in, KWIM?
He is asking for your attention not the granola bar, I think. 20/20 in hindsight..., but try to rule out the usual suspects of what is bothering him, "hungry, thirsty, cold, hot, diaper, attention, boredom"
If you are genuinely busy, stop for a second to look him in the face, say "mommy is busy, if you wait, I will will be with you in a minute"
I wouldn't say "Daddy will get it for you" I will say, "do you want granola?" "mommy is busy, can you ask daddy?" My guess is that he'll scream "no!". So you can work on giving him the attention he's looking for, teaching him how to ask for it, and patience.
Try to open up some options for him. If he wants granola, maybe talk to him about which flavor he wants while your doing whatever you are doing.
Generally speaking though, he wants me to do EVERYTHING. And it's really hard! I know he wants my attention and I give him TONS! But like let's say I am on the floor playing with him and DH is in the kitchen. Loey will say he wants pretzels and he ONLY wants me to get it. KWIM? I just don't know what to do...
Yesi - I probably haven't been consistent enough with Steve doing things for him too. Sometimes I'm just SO tired that in my head I'm like OMG OKAY I'll just get the stinkin granola bar! KWIM?
Shana - I have tried acknowledging his feelings when he can't have something, but he just doens't "move on" after that KWIM? When I try to redirect after acknowledging, he continues to tantrum or demand whatever it is that he wanted...
I think a big problem is my "working mom guilt" I know I'm not around as much as I would like so when I *AM* around, I want things to be as pleasant as possible...KWIM? I want to avoid the tantrums and crying fits and just have happy times!
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Re: How do you handle nearly 2-year old tantrums?
Posted by maybeamommy
I think a big problem is my "working mom guilt" I know I'm not around as much as I would like so when I *AM* around, I want things to be as pleasant as possible...KWIM? I want to avoid the tantrums and crying fits and just have happy times!
the one way I am able to do this is with consistency. if you are super FIRM with him, it will be ugly for a few days (or weeks I make no promises) but once he realizes that THIS (whatever the rule is) is what it is he will have no other recourse but to change his behavior.
YOU don't change (the rule..if you are being a jerk then yes, change) he has to get in line.
people think I am full of **** I am convinced but we have a pretty happy smiley playful home. as soon as he gets out of line, I deal with it sternly and then we are back to playing. I don't hold grudges and I don't harp on it after it's over.
lately Luce has been behaving like Loey..wanting me for everything. and it's no b/c I give it but b/c he's used to me doing it. the only way to change it is for someone else to DO. personally I don't mind it but I don't have any other children.
you are going to have TWO newborns soon enough...he needs to be able to get things from someone other than you. YOU owe it to both of you to be strong and stern and set the rules and expectations and act when he veers off.
he will still be your same snuggly buggly boy after he stops crying. Luce loves me something fierce and even my husband thinks I am too strict. I just don't let it consume our time together.
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