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wannabemom
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Re: Giving birth naturally.. no epi, no meds... no ANYTHING.
Posted by LadyH
Posted by sumlynmad
[and besides all this, is that the c-section rate in hospitals is ASTONISHING, and a LOT has to do with the fact that epidurals and pitocin and inductions are given.....
Really - Is that true? I didn't know that, and my dr. never said anything.
that actually seems to be possibly true.... becuase in the US, we have much higher incidence of cessarians than other developed nations with similar stats for successful birth rates
I'm not sure of the reasons why, though. I suspect a portion of it is due to the fact that we're encouraged to be horizontal during early labor, instead of walking / sitting on a birthing stool which would have gravity help us a bit. but logic suggests adding meds that numb the mom definitely could slow things down even more...
on the flip side, though.....
while women have been giving birth since the beginning of time w/o meds, they also had staggering risks of death due to labor (baby/mom/both).... so the completely natural way obviously needs a bit of help on a fairly regular basis.
this is why I'm torn on whether or not to have meds......
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LisaI
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Re: Giving birth naturally.. no epi, no meds... no ANYTHING.
Because some woman like to experience everything about the birth of their child. I thought about it but once in it, nope not for me! I'm not that strong or even want to go there My hat is off to those amazing brave woman though!
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Dragonfly75
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Re: Giving birth naturally.. no epi, no meds... no ANYTHING.
Posted by wannabemom
on the flip side, though.....
while women have been giving birth since the beginning of time w/o meds, they also had staggering risks of death due to labor (baby/mom/both).... so the completely natural way obviously needs a bit of help on a fairly regular basis.
this is why I'm torn on whether or not to have meds......
I just have to point out that most maternal deaths were due to poor sanitary conditions (including doctors not washing their hands and spreading disease) and poor nutrition. Not having access to an epidural did not kill those mothers or babies.
That's not to say that modern medicine isn't wonderful and doesn't save lives, but I wouldn't compare modern natural childbirth to "old time" natural childbirth.
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wannabemom
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Re: Giving birth naturally.. no epi, no meds... no ANYTHING.
well, it was more than just sanitary conditions.... many women died becuase they either bled to death, or the labor was so long and difficult that the baby's head swelled (due to bruising), and got stuck in the birth canal.
I just bring this up becuase sometimes, you do need meds to get the contractions stronger, or you do legitiamtely need a cessarian.
IMO I think a proper balance must be struck between the use of meds and procedures when it is necessary, and the acceptance that birth is a natural process that frequently can proceed with minimal intervention....
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Re: Giving birth naturally.. no epi, no meds... no ANYTHING.
Posted by LadyH
Posted by sumlynmad
[and besides all this, is that the c-section rate in hospitals is ASTONISHING, and a LOT has to do with the fact that epidurals and pitocin and inductions are given.....
Really - Is that true? I didn't know that, and my dr. never said anything.
Inductions lead to higher rates of c-sections because the drugs that they give to induce birth don't mimic all that the body does naturally so labor doesn't always progress. Another reason is that inductions are sometimes done for convenience so it's before the baby is ready to be born. If I remember correctly, 60% of inductions end up as c-sections. An epidural to help to delay the progression of labor because it can slow down the progress of labor.
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Re: Giving birth naturally.. no epi, no meds... no ANYTHING.
Ugggh I did it with my first b/c we were afraid of the side affects of an epi lets just say with my second I got an epi and with this one im getting it again no doubt LOL
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Goldi0218
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Re: Giving birth naturally.. no epi, no meds... no ANYTHING.
Every person's situation needs to be evaluated on a separate basis. We do not all disclose every single solitary medical (and even emotional) factor that contributes to our decision making processes. Just reading the TTC boards over the past year, you can see how many people ask if they can take anti-anxiety meds and anti-depressants when they are TTC and/or PG. If people are prone to anxiety, Im thinking blood pressure can be affected and possibly put a child in fetal distress.
I will be 38 years old when I deliver. I know now, at ONLY 13 and a half weeks that I could barely make it down the aisle at a supermarket without needing to stop. I simply do not have the energy. Pre-pregnancy, I was in the gym 3 times a week. I was a "normal" weight, relatively fit and had energy. If this is how the rest of my pregnancy pans out and I hope it won't, it is hardly likely that I will labor for more time than I feel necessary. A 38 year old woman laboring for 19 hours is very different from that of a 25 or 30 year old woman doing the same. And yes, I still go to the gym with a modified (and supervised) workout using a trainer. Pregnancy was not license for me to let myself go.
I think it is dangerous to imply that people are not educated on natural birth processes. I consider myself to be VERY well read and I do educate myself. I do know benefits as well as risks. I ask a lot of questions. Of course, if I feel I can deliver naturally, I will, but if I don't, I'll survive and so will my child. There is not ONE statistic out there that will sway my decision one way or the other.
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LisaI
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Re: Giving birth naturally.. no epi, no meds... no ANYTHING.
Posted by shamrock124
Posted by LadyH
Posted by sumlynmad
[and besides all this, is that the c-section rate in hospitals is ASTONISHING, and a LOT has to do with the fact that epidurals and pitocin and inductions are given.....
Really - Is that true? I didn't know that, and my dr. never said anything.
Inductions lead to higher rates of c-sections because the drugs that they give to induce birth don't mimic all that the body does naturally so labor doesn't always progress. Another reason is that inductions are sometimes done for convenience so it's before the baby is ready to be born. If I remember correctly, 60% of inductions end up as c-sections. An epidural to help to delay the progression of labor because it can slow down the progress of labor.
ok, this is not all acurate. Inductions are done in different ways so to lump it into one type does not make sense. Meaning, elective and medical inductions are done based on idividual evaluation. the processes are different for all depending on where your body and baby is at during the time of induction. Also inductions do increase your chances of a c-seciton , however 25% of an increase not 60%. I just went over this with my High Risk Doctor, OB and midwife along with doing a lot of research. I am getting a medical induction at 38 weeks and 2 days. Your OB does not do inductions electively anymore without reason. The Obsetrics board has changed their rules on this along with their insurance companies.
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julz33
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Re: Giving birth naturally.. no epi, no meds... no ANYTHING.
Posted by Goldi0218
I think it is dangerous to imply that people are not educated on natural birth processes.
Well, the OP's question was asking WHY would people choose the natural childbirth route... so I think it makes sense for people to try to educate others on this matter in response to that question.
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CalendarGirl16
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Re: Giving birth naturally.. no epi, no meds... no ANYTHING.
I'm going in with the attempt to go natural however being as though I do NOT do well with pain, i'm inclined to get meds if I just can't take it anymore... we'll see what happens
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Goldi0218
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Re: Giving birth naturally.. no epi, no meds... no ANYTHING.
What frightens me more is how many OB/GYNs are dropping the "OB" part because of the risks they prefer not to take. My GYN is not even 50 and he no longer delivers children. I must use his partners. In the future, I venture to say there could be a lot of compromised OB/GYN care because the premiums for malpractice insurance are so high and there could be a shortage. Maybe not for us now, but in years to come. Mini-digression.
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LisaI
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Re: Giving birth naturally.. no epi, no meds... no ANYTHING.
Posted by Goldi0218
What frightens me more is how many OB/GYNs are dropping the "OB" part because of the risks they prefer not to take. My GYN is not even 50 and he no longer delivers children. I must use his partners. In the future, I venture to say there could be a lot of compromised OB/GYN care because the premiums for malpractice insurance are so high and there could be a shortage. Maybe not for us now, but in years to come. Mini-digression.
yup, I agree. So many OB's are not anymore and it's simply b/c of the insurance costs and malpractice suits. It's so sad. that is why the obsetrics board has gotten tighter. There are some great OB's out there and I'm thankful to have mine. They are whatever side you prefer and are more cautous which I like.
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nicrae
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Re: Giving birth naturally.. no epi, no meds... no ANYTHING.
I give credit to women who can handle the pain of natural childbirth. I had an epi and was still in an exteme amount of pain. My doctor did not push an induction (even though I asked for one at every appointment past 37 weeks( until my baby was measuring over 9lbs. My induction did lead to a
c-section but it wasn't because of the induction. DD was too big to fit thru my very narrow pelvis. I think that to take drugs or not to take them is a personal choice. My BFF has two sons and did it both ways. She said that she would take 16 hours of labor with an epi over 2 hours of labor naturally any day! Again though, it is your own choice and luckily we are able to make it.
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I choose natural (no meds) b/c it works for me. How do I do it? I stay home as long as possible before going to the hospital. Lord knows if i have to stay strapped to the bed and take every contraction I'm calling for an epi! I've always went into labor naturally so nature always took it's course, therefore I never had to have potocin.
Speaking for myself only, I am 100% for natural birth but if i ever had to be artificially induced you bet your bottom dollar I am more than likely going to want an epi. I couldn't imagine being in the hospital for hours taking blow after blow. No thanks!!! Hats off to all the girls who have been induced.
Wanting meds to ease the pain is perfectly fine.ther eis nothing wrong with it. There is NO right or wrong in this discussion at all!
How did i do it naturally? I totally mentally prepared myself for it. I told myself........Self you are not being stabbed or attacked by a wild animal; your're simply having a baby. AND having a baby is natural therefore you are suppossed to feel pain. You won't die from this pain. It's a good kind of pain. The baby is the one who is fighting and working hard, not me. I am the just punching bag, and that's ok with me.
Am I a hero??? You damn skippy I am!!!!! I am a hero b/c my DD grew inside of my body for 9 months and then I gave birth to her. IMO, that makes me a hero. We all are hero's!!! It doesn't matter how we conceived our babies or how we gave birth to them.......we all are hero's!!! We have given our children life!!!!
Everyone's birth stories are differnet. You can take 10 of us BTDT Mom's and all 10 of us will have a different birth story. The only thing that we all have in common is that labor has phases; early, active and transition. Everyone's experience with them are different. I would never tell somone to do it MY way b/c MY way only worked for me.
My advice is to have some sort of plan then try your best to go with it.
Good luck to everyone and may we all have healthy happy babies!!!
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SpencersMommy
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Re: Giving birth naturally.. no epi, no meds... no ANYTHING.
GIVE ME DRUGSSS!!! 
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Re: Giving birth naturally.. no epi, no meds... no ANYTHING.
I had no other choice with my DD :)
I woke up the morning of Thanksgiving with contractions 2 minutes apart and made it to the hospital just in time. I'm extremly thankful that there were no cars on the road since the hospital is a 40 minute drive. We arrived at 6:30am went for a short painful walk till shift change at 7am she was crowing by 8am and born at 8:25am. I had her 100% natural because it went so fast no drugs, no IV, no monitoring... etc...
Luckily my Dh, Doula, head nurse and OB were awesome I didn't even tear.
DS was a kiwi vac extraction and no joke natural childbirth was easier!
Dh and I are totally in love and Jack is an AWESOME big Brother!! So far everything is great and Melanie and I were released within 24 hours.
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Goldi0218
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Re: Giving birth naturally.. no epi, no meds... no ANYTHING.
I have changed my mind. I am not delivering naturally OR c-section. My kid will be "beamed" up by Scotty.
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Mommy2Boys
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Re: Giving birth naturally.. no epi, no meds... no ANYTHING.
I swore up, down and every way I was going to give birth w/out an epidural or any meds...I was terrified of an epidural and do not like taking unnecessary medication. That being said, after 30 hrs. of being in labor (and only dilated 2 cm.) and 2 trips to the hospital, I caved. I was exhausted, needed to sleep and needless to say, after I was given the epi and the pitocin, my labor progressed and I opened right up. DS was born healthy and had no side effects from either.
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Re: Giving birth naturally.. no epi, no meds... no ANYTHING.
I never questioned NOT having drugs. They are there for a reason. The epi helped me sleep, let my body dilate without me screaming every time it did so...
I thought drugs were a GODSEND. I don't need to feel "all the pain" associated with pushing a child out. I would never go into a surgery drug free, and I wasn't about to have a baby drug free. I think for women who go natural its a good choice for them...I am in awe of it actually!!
My friend didn't have a choice with her second..she got the hospital and was already 8 cm. No epi for her..she said it was god awful, and that she vomited from the pain of the contractions. She did however admit that her recovery was easier than with her first where she laborered for 28 hours in the hospital and DID have drugs. So I guess there are benefits to both!!!
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Re: Giving birth naturally.. no epi, no meds... no ANYTHING.
Posted by Goldi0218
I have changed my mind. I am not delivering naturally OR c-section. My kid will be "beamed" up by Scotty.
Thats awesome!!
Let me know how that goes, maybe I'll consider that method 2nd time around! 
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Re: Giving birth naturally.. no epi, no meds... no ANYTHING.
Any drug they offer me I will take it! I 'm BEYOND AFRAID!!!!!
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sfp0701
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Re: Giving birth naturally.. no epi, no meds... no ANYTHING.
Posted by LadyH
Posted by sumlynmad
[and besides all this, is that the c-section rate in hospitals is ASTONISHING, and a LOT has to do with the fact that epidurals and pitocin and inductions are given.....
Really - Is that true? I didn't know that, and my dr. never said anything.
Ask your doctor what their c-section rate it. They will tell you honestly. They have to. My practice was over 50%. That is the norm around here.
Some good websites to look at:
www.pushedbirth.org
http://www.thebusinessofbeingborn.com/
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Re: Giving birth naturally.. no epi, no meds... no ANYTHING.
Posted by wannabemom
well, it was more than just sanitary conditions.... many women died becuase they either bled to death, or the labor was so long and difficult that the baby's head swelled (due to bruising), and got stuck in the birth canal.
I just bring this up becuase sometimes, you do need meds to get the contractions stronger, or you do legitiamtely need a cessarian.
IMO I think a proper balance must be struck between the use of meds and procedures when it is necessary, and the acceptance that birth is a natural process that frequently can proceed with minimal intervention....
I don't think that anyone here was saying that they would NEVER use meds or get a c-section if thier babies lives or thier lives are in danger. I think they prefer to go no meds and if an EMERGENCY should arise medical intervention would be allowed. I don't think anyone here would let thier baby die or let themselves bleed to death just to avoid meds or a c-section. That is a little insulting. Maybe I interpreting what you said wrong?
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Re: Giving birth naturally.. no epi, no meds... no ANYTHING.
Posted by Goldi0218
I have changed my mind. I am not delivering naturally OR c-section. My kid will be "beamed" up by Scotty.
Snotty beamed me twice last night. It was wonderful.
I can see why women would want a natural childbirth- what a huge accoimplishment. And a really down to Earth, nitty gritty experience. I am not one of them. Meaning that I have not made up my mind.
I will hold off on an epi if possible, and for as long as possible. My one main concern is slowing down labor. I am terrified of a c section, and I can see how, if an epi slows down labor, the chance of a c section increases.
But if I am in unbearable pain, then I will take it. Because I hate pain. I am pretty sure, though- that there doesn't exist a drug that makes an "easy way out" of labor. But if there was- I would probably take that too.
I have, however- decided I will absolutely not take the demerol. I had a terrible experience once with it.
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Re: Giving birth naturally.. no epi, no meds... no ANYTHING.
I, in no way, wanted to go the unmedicated route...no way, personally, I do not see the need
I was induced and got my epi when I was only a fingertip dialated. I wound up with a c-setion, had a GREAT experience and have NO regrets 
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