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AllyMally
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Re: Cheese? Is Kraft singles really so bad?
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I guess i'm a horrible mother and have screwed my kids because they had non organic milk, store bought white bread with margarine and kraft singles (aka a grilled cheese) for lunch. Oh and they had that with non organic bananas and non organic grapes and non organic grape juice and non filtered water. I guess it's all over now and someday I can explain it's because I never gave them a fighting chance in life.
I don't think your are a horrible mother. I agree that what I wrote came out sounding very dramatic. I do apologize.
No worries, and for the record I don't feed my kids the above lol. They drink organic whole milk, and have the occasional grilled cheese. Our food philosophy is to try and have as much food raw or natural as we can or to make our things. What we can't make we buy local. I buy things like organic heavy cream and make my own butter and so on. Food IS important I agree, but when faced with the choice of 3 organic bananas or a pint each of blueberries, and strawberries I choose #2. I think we sometimes go over board with the organic to the point that people who can't do it all feel bad. I much prefer growing my own and buying local in season.
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Re: Cheese? Is Kraft singles really so bad?
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Unless i grew it on my own farm, there is just no way to tell what was used, or how it was grown.
I am a skeptic though, but I understand why people buy organic..I just won't. I can't stand the way the milk tastes..but I also don't think there aren't any guarentees as to where the food came from..it can say it, sure, but you don't really know. You could be spending an extra $3 on produce, but you really don't know where it came from.
On a side note, there are 4 pediatricians in the practice that I have used, and not one have urged organic produce and milk over non-organic.
No offense to your peds, but most MDs are not well versed in nutrition. A good friend of mine who is a ped from a top medical school never even heard of GMOs until I told her what they were. Treating illness and making dietary recommendations are two separate domains. Quite frankly, I don't see how any knowledgeable medical professional would think it is better for a child to drink milk that contains antibiotics, hormones and GMO feed versus one that does not contain these things. Finally, the process to be registered as USDA organic is quite stringent. There are many steps to be taken to get there. The same goes for products that are non GMO verified. There are coding numbers on produce to tell you where it was from. If you buy locally produced organic products you can visit farm to see how things are done. For non local items, you can find out where the company sources its products and learn more about those farms. It isn't just an arbitrary thing where someone sticks a label on something and calls it organic.
No offense taken on behalf of the pediatricians I see. I find it hard to believe that a pediatrician had never heard of GMOs. Honestly, if the pediatricians urged it, I may have looked into it a bit more, but I still feel that unless I grew it myself, there is just no way to know. I understand everything you wrote, coding numbers, labels...but you still don't know exactly where it came from..after all, it is just coding and numbers, mistakes can be made, labels can be moved...you just don't know for sure.
I see it this way: If you buy organic the overwhelming odds are the product was grown organically ( given the factors I mentioned before) If you buy inorganic food then you know for sure that is contains pesticides, synthetic fertilizers, antibiotics, hormones etc. That is a good enough for me
 I don't understand the argument that you don't know how much better the organic really is or that the two could get mixed up. If buying organic isn't a priority to you, then that's your choice but I don't see not buying bc it there's a chance it might have pesticides, etc.
Yes, exactly this.
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SweetTooth
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Re: Cheese? Is Kraft singles really so bad?
My kids' pediatrician had never said not to give my kids fast food, but I think we can all unanimously agree that its bad for you.
Just because a doctor hasn't urged anything doesn't mean they have an opinion on it.
And like it has been said, a conventional apple had the same nutritional value has an organic one. So my ped asks if the kids are eating their fruits and vegetables, not if they are eating organic ones. I honestly don't think most peds would mention organics because, frankly, they are expensive, and there are many who can't afford it. So in that sense, choosing to give your kids a conventional apple over a cookie is definitely the better choice.
But to make some sort of claim that organic food is all a hoax to get people to spend more money seems pretty ridiculous.
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| Posted 4/3/13 9:09 PM |
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yankeebaby
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Re: Cheese? Is Kraft singles really so bad?
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LOL. I'm sorry but this makes me laugh... We grew up on Kraft... I still eat it all the time... I don't see the big deal... This whole organic, what is best movement is really getting out of control 
Ps: my dd had some of my Taco Bell food today... Oh the horror! LoL
My DS loves Wendy's
I agree & we also eat at McDonalds occassionaly.
I actually just read a scientific article in a medical journal about how there is no difference between eating organic and non organic besides the price. If I find it I will post it.
With that said I do believe in fresh fruits and veggies. Cleaning them well and limiting processed foods. I do agree though that we grew up on kraft and in moderation its fine. My son loves it and since he mainly eats part skim string cheese when he wants American cheese slices I give it to him.
This is misleading and absolutely not true. I believe what the study said is there is no difference in NUTRITIONAL value. BUT who buys organic because they think it is more nutritous? People buy organic because they do not want their food to be slathered in pesticides and chemicals! I
I was going to say the same thing - if it is the article I am thinking of it does only say what Dr. Mom is saying above.
Additionally, I believe there have been studies showing that the level of pesticides etc. is, in fact,harmful to young children especially with respect to nuerological issues...
Also, washing does nothing when it comes to certain fruits and vegetables and what about the meats, dairy etc...
I was going to say the same thing! That study was about nutritional value. I don't think that anyone who buys organic claims that the food is more nutritious..
I don't want my family eating pesticides, and that is why I buy organic.
I will look for the article it was months ago. It was not about nutritional value though. We may be looking at different articles. If the price is simialr I get it but unfortantly I dont have a lot of extra money. To buy organic you need to have money to do it. I get upset when people critize (not that you are) when they dont know a persons finacial situation.
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DiamondGirl
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Re: Cheese? Is Kraft singles really so bad?
It sucks that what should be an informational thread turns into a pissing contest over who is the better parent.
A person shouldn't need to put other parents down to qualify their own worth.
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MAC222
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Re: Cheese? Is Kraft singles really so bad?
Posted by SweetTooth
My kids' pediatrician had never said not to give my kids fast food, but I think we can all unanimously agree that its bad for you.
Just because a doctor hasn't urged anything doesn't mean they have an opinion on it.
And like it has been said, a conventional apple had the same nutritional value has an organic one. So my ped asks if the kids are eating their fruits and vegetables, not if they are eating organic ones. I honestly don't think most peds would mention organics because, frankly, they are expensive, and there are many who can't afford it. So in that sense, choosing to give your kids a conventional apple over a cookie is definitely the better choice.
But to make some sort of claim that organic food is all a hoax to get people to spend more money seems pretty ridiculous.
Not that you quoted me, but I will respond because I assume this was directed at my statement. I would think that if eating non-organic foods caused such serious issues later in life, and eating a Kraft single was so awful a pediatrician would urge at some point this isn't a good idea..you are harming your child. That is just what I would think, not what I expect. I was more answering the OP's question. My reasons on why I don'talways or strictly feed my kids organic are my own..just as yours are your own. Before someone is attacked, or put down (not that I was-nor do I feel that I was) maybe just realize that not everyone will see things the way you do (general you, not you).
About the fast food-sure it is bad for you, but I wouldn't deny my kids the simple pleasures of a happy meal once in while just because it is bad for you. Call me crazy!
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Teach723
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Re: Cheese? Is Kraft singles really so bad?
I can't believe this thread is still going.  Thanks for the responses. Since writing this I've been giving DD provolone and mozzarella. She seems to have forgotten about the Kraft cheese. Not that I won't give it to her, but my concern was every day. I also checked out that fooducate app which is pretty cool and informative. I found myself scanning everything on the aisles of the supermarket. I didn't mean for this to turn into an organic foods debate. You've all given me a lot to think about though. We can drive ourselves nuts over these things. Clearly we all want what's best for our children. No debate over that. 
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MeowMeow2
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Cheese? Is Kraft singles really so bad?
I choose to feed my dc an organic diet, I don't "look down" on parents who don't. I do hope that parents do some research on what exactly their kids are putting into their bodies. A common thing I hear is "I grew up eating that and I'm fine!" The truth of the matter is GMO foods weren't even introduced until the mid to late 1990s. Isn't it strange that developmental issues, allergies, adhd etc have all been on the rise since then? I'm not saying its the ONLY cause, but I DEFINITELY think there's a correlation.
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BeachGrl
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Re: Cheese? Is Kraft singles really so bad?
Posted by MeowMeow2
I choose to feed my dc an organic diet, I don't "look down" on parents who don't. I do hope that parents do some research on what exactly their kids are putting into their bodies. A common thing I hear is "I grew up eating that and I'm fine!" The truth of the matter is GMO foods weren't even introduced until the mid to late 1990s. Isn't it strange that developmental issues, allergies, adhd etc have all been on the rise since then? I'm not saying its the ONLY cause, but I DEFINITELY think there's a correlation.
And Autism!! I completely agree with you. We eat organic too for the same reasons. Our food isn't the same as it was when we were kids. I also feel the garbage in the food is what raised cancer rates too. Well that and environmental pollutants.
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NervousNell
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Re: Cheese? Is Kraft singles really so bad?
Kraft Singles....always bringing the drama! 
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MAC222
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Re: Cheese? Is Kraft singles really so bad?
Posted by NervousNell
Kraft Singles....always bringing the drama!
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Re: Cheese? Is Kraft singles really so bad?
Posted by alli3131
I grew up on Kraft. I wouldn't worry but I also do not do any organic stuff either so I may not be the best to ask
ditto ...but as other posters said, get lower sodium deli cheese
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Linda1003
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Re: Cheese? Is Kraft singles really so bad?
Posted by MAC222
Posted by SweetTooth
My kids' pediatrician had never said not to give my kids fast food, but I think we can all unanimously agree that its bad for you.
Just because a doctor hasn't urged anything doesn't mean they have an opinion on it.
And like it has been said, a conventional apple had the same nutritional value has an organic one. So my ped asks if the kids are eating their fruits and vegetables, not if they are eating organic ones. I honestly don't think most peds would mention organics because, frankly, they are expensive, and there are many who can't afford it. So in that sense, choosing to give your kids a conventional apple over a cookie is definitely the better choice.
But to make some sort of claim that organic food is all a hoax to get people to spend more money seems pretty ridiculous.
Not that you quoted me, but I will respond because I assume this was directed at my statement. I would think that if eating non-organic foods caused such serious issues later in life, and eating a Kraft single was so awful a pediatrician would urge at some point this isn't a good idea..you are harming your child. That is just what I would think, not what I expect. I was more answering the OP's question. My reasons on why I don'talways or strictly feed my kids organic are my own..just as yours are your own. Before someone is attacked, or put down (not that I was-nor do I feel that I was) maybe just realize that not everyone will see things the way you do (general you, not you).
About the fast food-sure it is bad for you, but I wouldn't deny my kids the simple pleasures of a happy meal once in while just because it is bad for you. Call me crazy!
Just wanted to ask though.. If you asked your pediatrician.. which one is better for you.. Kraft singles or an organic cheese.. or a low sodium cheese or even a deli cheese.. dont you think he'd say that kraft single is worse? If we dont ask the questions.. they aren't going to give us the answers.. and we already know the answers.. it's what we choose to do wit them that makes everyone differnt. Im not all organci b/c we cannot afford to be.. however.. i know my son LOVES cheese.. so i chose to give him the "better" version.. I know he LOVES apples.. so I chose to give himthe organic apples...
but my point was just about what you said about the pediatrician....
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MrsA1012
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Re: Cheese? Is Kraft singles really so bad?
Posted by Teach723
I can't believe this thread is still going. Thanks for the responses. Since writing this I've been giving DD provolone and mozzarella. She seems to have forgotten about the Kraft cheese. Not that I won't give it to her, but my concern was every day. I also checked out that fooducate app which is pretty cool and informative. I found myself scanning everything on the aisles of the supermarket. I didn't mean for this to turn into an organic foods debate. You've all given me a lot to think about though. We can drive ourselves nuts over these things. Clearly we all want what's best for our children. No debate over that.
I am glad it worked out for you
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yankeebaby
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Re: Cheese? Is Kraft singles really so bad?
Posted by NervousNell
Kraft Singles....always bringing the drama!
lol
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