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Dulcinea
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Designer Babies Anyone? POLL
Didn't realize there is already a thread about this... feel free to take the poll though, and the article is below:
Designer Babies
Message edited 3/4/2009 12:05:03 AM.
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MissJones
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Re: Designer Babies Anyone? POLL
H to the L no!!! We need to stop playing god!
ETA: Also, part of me is so freaking fearful of some George Orwell apocolyptic society where suddenly brown eyed people or those with curls are the outcasts of the society or are discarded at birth because of those natural characteristics. Another part of me has seen too many creepy science movies and it has instilled in me that no matter how much we try to outwit nature, it always comes back to bite us in the a$$.
Message edited 3/4/2009 5:17:58 PM.
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| Posted 3/4/09 6:44 AM |
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GoldenRod
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Re: Designer Babies Anyone? POLL
As a diabetic with high blood pressure and high cholesterol, you bet I would do whatever I can to prevent my DC from inheriting diabetes.... I wouldn't wish this disease, or any other disease on anyone....
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| Posted 3/4/09 8:01 AM |
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Domino
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Re: Designer Babies Anyone? POLL
As someone who just had PGD done, I selected yes to fatal defects. While it was not an issue in our case since all our chromosomally normal embies were the same sex, we would never have made our decision on which ones to put back based upon gender. Just looking for a healthy child...I dont care what gender or color they are
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| Posted 3/4/09 8:18 AM |
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mrswask
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Re: Designer Babies Anyone? POLL
I checked off yes for defects and illnesses. If I could protect my future child from some of the inherited diseases and illnesses that are in my family and that some family members suffer from, I certainly would!
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| Posted 3/4/09 8:26 AM |
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imyself
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Re: Designer Babies Anyone? POLL
I said only to reduce fatal defects. If my parents tried to avoid any defect I would not be here nor would my siblings. Two of us have genetic clotting factors and the other 2 have asthma. My son may have inherited my clotting factors but will live a full healthy life and I wouldn't trade him for anything.
I am also a little torn about even the fatal defects. Sometimes a child is only meant to be on this earth for a short amount of time. They touch so many lives in that short time. The people may not have been the same if that child was never born.
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| Posted 3/4/09 8:37 AM |
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lucyloo
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Re: Designer Babies Anyone? POLL
Posted by mrswask
I checked off yes for defects and illnesses. If I could protect my future child from some of the inherited diseases and illnesses that are in my family and that some family members suffer from, I certainly would!
ITA
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| Posted 3/4/09 9:11 AM |
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tj2008
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Re: Designer Babies Anyone? POLL
Posted by mrswask
I checked off yes for defects and illnesses. If I could protect my future child from some of the inherited diseases and illnesses that are in my family and that some family members suffer from, I certainly would!
ITA too, plus to reduce fatal defects
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| Posted 3/4/09 9:44 AM |
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TheDivineMrsM
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Re: Designer Babies Anyone? POLL
I voted "to reduce fatal defects." Both DH and I are Ashkenazi (E. European) Jews, and b/c of our heritage may potentially be carriers for Tay Sachs. The thought of bringing a baby into the world that will live a maximum of five years and be in pain and suffer for that entire time is abhorrent to me. But IMO, life-threatening disease is the only kind of testing I'd agree to. There are things that I'd like to see in my child (DH's musical talent, my hazel eyes) but I'd never pursue medical intervention to make them appear, KWIM?
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| Posted 3/4/09 10:20 AM |
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JenMarie
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Re: Designer Babies Anyone? POLL
Posted by MissJones
H to the L no!!! We need to stop playing god!
I 100% agree. I know how horrible it is when a child dies so young. And I know it would be great if we could rid our children of certain diseases. But I truly believe things happen for a reason and we shouldn't mess with that. It just seems so unnatural.
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| Posted 3/4/09 11:07 AM |
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azoodie
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Re: Designer Babies Anyone? POLL
Okay I may get some flames for this but I honestly don't see the harm in it.
Isn't it already "playing God" to some extent to be doing IVF or those sorts of procedures to begin with? What makes preventing genetic defects any different either - if God wills it who are we to try and prevent it?
To me it's all or nothing. You can't say it's playing God in one case but not in the other. If these embryos are already being tested why not allow them to pick blue eyes or brown hair?
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| Posted 3/4/09 11:12 AM |
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MrsM-6-7-08
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Re: Designer Babies Anyone? POLL
Posted by azoodie
Okay I may get some flames for this but I honestly don't see the harm in it.
Isn't it already "playing God" to some extent to be doing IVF or those sorts of procedures to begin with? What makes preventing genetic defects any different either - if God wills it who are we to try and prevent it?
To me it's all or nothing. You can't say it's playing God in one case but not in the other. If these embryos are already being tested why not allow them to pick blue eyes or brown hair?
ITA
I wanted to write what you wrote but was afraid of being flamed
personally i do not care what anyone does but what you said is exactly how i feel, playing god is playing god regardless of what you choose
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| Posted 3/4/09 11:28 AM |
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eroxgirl
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Re: Designer Babies Anyone? POLL
This really disturbs me. I mean, I can understand the desire to want to avoid diseases but even so, the idea of specifically choosing one embryo over another because of it's supposed superior genes just feels so entirely and completely WRONG to me.
I can't adequately put my thoughts into words but I think this sort of thing can have disastrous effects on the future. I also think it undermines the pro-choice movement...it makes the 'choice' seem frivolous when you're choosing blue eyes over brown...
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| Posted 3/4/09 11:40 AM |
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MrsMessina
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Re: Designer Babies Anyone? POLL
Posted by MissJones
H to the L no!!! We need to stop playing god!
ITA. It's survival of the fittest - and a natural order of things. IMO this is not a good idea... though unfortunately I'm sure it'll be awhile before anyone truly realizes the effects this will have on things... 
As someone who has been thru IVF twice and is still trying to get (and stay) pregnant, I CAN NOT imagine doing it for superficial reasons such as picking my kids hair and eye color--- it's morally wrong and disgusting IMO. Part of IVF is allowing the embryos to grow and keeping it as natural as possible, putting back those that are growing properly and are "on target" for where they should be---- and while I see why some people have PGD done, it's done for medically necessary reasons- not to choose the gender of your child or any other superficial reasons... 
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| Posted 3/4/09 11:44 AM |
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nrthshgrl
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Re: Designer Babies Anyone? POLL
While I agree that it shouldn't be done solely for looks or sex (mainly because it caused a huge imbalance in China of males), I don't agree with the you're playing god, the natural order of things or survival of the fittest arguement.
Playing God, survival of the fittest & the natural order of things doesn't allow for IVF, IUI, or any other fertility method. You are "playing God" with IVF, IUI, etc, since you are skipping the natural course of biology, which would normally dictate that many women & men *should not* have children whether it be an fatal disease, a biological anamoly or chromosome issue. Frankly I'd rather God stepped up to the plate, but he gave us science for that very reason.
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| Posted 3/4/09 12:41 PM |
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GoldenRod
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Re: Designer Babies Anyone? POLL
Posted by azoodie
Okay I may get some flames for this but I honestly don't see the harm in it.
Isn't it already "playing God" to some extent to be doing IVF or those sorts of procedures to begin with? What makes preventing genetic defects any different either - if God wills it who are we to try and prevent it?
To me it's all or nothing. You can't say it's playing God in one case but not in the other. If these embryos are already being tested why not allow them to pick blue eyes or brown hair?
I wrote something similar in the other related thread. Every one of us who has had surgery (including C-sections), antibiotics, vaccinations, etc, have all "played God" in one form or another.....
While I don't necessarily believe in "God", I believe that if there is one, he is allowing us to do this things. An omnipotent being could easily not let us come up with thoughts and techniques to "play God" if he didn't want us to. "The Lord works in mysterious ways." Sometimes the "mysterious ways" may be medicine and genetic manipulation.....
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| Posted 3/4/09 12:57 PM |
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maybebaby
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Re: Designer Babies Anyone? POLL
To those who said it isn't playing god...while I understand what you mean (being that IVF and other procedures do indeed create a child that would not be there otherwise) doesn't it seem like a huge difference?
I mean science was given to us for a reason. I firmly believe that! Some of my friends woudln't have their babies if it weren't for IVF. It is a blessing!
But it does not sit well with me AT ALL that it may someday come down to people hand picking traits they want their children to have. I think the two are very very different.
I just can't understand how all that money and time would be going to decisions such as eye or hair color. If my SIL got the blue eyed boy she'd hoped for then my beautiful brown eyed niece who is the light of their lives woudln't be here...it really makes you wonder.
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| Posted 3/4/09 1:02 PM |
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maybebaby
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Re: Designer Babies Anyone? POLL
Posted by GoldenRod
Posted by azoodie
Okay I may get some flames for this but I honestly don't see the harm in it.
Isn't it already "playing God" to some extent to be doing IVF or those sorts of procedures to begin with? What makes preventing genetic defects any different either - if God wills it who are we to try and prevent it?
To me it's all or nothing. You can't say it's playing God in one case but not in the other. If these embryos are already being tested why not allow them to pick blue eyes or brown hair?
I wrote something similar in the other related thread. Every one of us who has had surgery (including C-sections), antibiotics, vaccinations, etc, have all "played God" in one form or another.....
While I don't necessarily believe in "God", I believe that if there is one, he is allowing us to do this things. An omnipotent being could easily not let us come up with thoughts and techniques to "play God" if he didn't want us to. "The Lord works in mysterious ways." Sometimes the "mysterious ways" may be medicine and genetic manipulation.....
I guess as someone who does strongly believe in God, I tend to think that the plan wasn't to give us science for purposes such as picking superficial traits for our childen. Genetic defects/illnesses are one thing....but hair color, height etc...I just don't understand it I guess. It seems very unethical in my eyes. But that is only my opinion!
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| Posted 3/4/09 1:06 PM |
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LaurenExp
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Re: Designer Babies Anyone? POLL
I completely believe in PGD to check for genetic anamolies present in an embryo, but to discard perfectly good embryos based on hair color or eye color, I just feel is morally wrong.
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Celt
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Re: Designer Babies Anyone? POLL
Yet another case where the science has outpaced the ethics... as to playing god, so is birth control right?When the pill came out there was the same argument in many circles... 3+ decades later it's totally accepted. So the ethics will evolve as the science is applied I suppose. Using the technology strictly for physical traits is disgusting to me; and foolish really, do you think I could've "designed" this
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Not on my best day, thanks. I'll leave the "design" to the original architect; I'm responsible for maintenance. 
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| Posted 3/4/09 1:17 PM |
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Alli06
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Re: Designer Babies Anyone? POLL
Only to eliminated defects especially fatal ones. Other then that, no way!!!
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| Posted 3/4/09 1:19 PM |
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azoodie
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Re: Designer Babies Anyone? POLL
Posted by maybebaby
To those who said it isn't playing god...while I understand what you mean (being that IVF and other procedures do indeed create a child that would not be there otherwise) doesn't it seem like a huge difference?
But it does not sit well with me AT ALL that it may someday come down to people hand picking traits they want their children to have. I think the two are very very different.
Nope, I personally don't see a difference.
I 100% support IVF - but IMO (and of course this is my opinion I see no difference in the lab technician picking "quality" eggs or in the case of IUI "quality" sperm and PGD. EVERY case of PGD is technically the selection of desirable traits.
If it's their money and that's what they choose to do it with it so be it, not my place to judge. I honestly don't think many people would opt to do this for that sole purpose. PGD is not a procedure to be taken lightly and costs a lot of $$$$.
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Dani922
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Re: Designer Babies Anyone? POLL
If I knew that we were at a high risk for one reason or another of creating a child with a fatal defect, then I could see checking for that. As for choosing gender or eye color or some other trait... NO!
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| Posted 3/4/09 1:38 PM |
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azoodie
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Re: Designer Babies Anyone? POLL
Posted by LaurenExp
I completely believe in PGD to check for genetic anamolies present in an embryo, but to discard perfectly good embryos based on hair color or eye color, I just feel is morally wrong.
But isn't that what happens to every embryo that is not implanted anyway? They may be perfectly good as well but are just discarded.
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| Posted 3/4/09 1:38 PM |
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mtnmama
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Re: Designer Babies Anyone? POLL
Posted by colette
Yet another case where the science has outpaced the ethics... as to playing god, so is birth control right?When the pill came out there was the same argument in many circles... 3+ decades later it's totally accepted.
It is not totally accepted. Maybe by a majority, but some still see it as immoral
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