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that's not my job

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jellybean78
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Re: that's not my job

Posted by JennP

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Posted by b2b777

I might be in the minority but I would have probably just done it, especially if my boss was cc'd. I would have wanted my boss to see that i go above and beyond when asked. That attitude has served me well over the course of my career.



Me too and IME people remember when you do. I have a friend who is an assistant and she does regular tasks plus 100 other personal stuff for her boss but she is compensated very well. Personally I would have a hard time saying no to a favor for a higher up (within reason of course)

Side note: It will probably take you the same amount of time to write out the email declining with an explanation then it does to write out a sympathy card.



How is it the same amount of time? She’s got to go to the store, buy it, get the info, fill it out, and send it.

Like others have said every industry is different, but in general I’ve been in 2 very different industries and the person who takes on more work like this gets... more work like this.



What I meant is it takes time and energy to type out an email response declining to do something and to come here and ask for advice. The same time and energy that could have been spent just sending out the card.


And in my experience the people with the it's not my job attitude especially for simple tasks are the first to be let go when layoffs come around. They are also likely to be passed up for promotions. Once again this in my experience especially true if they are in an administrative position.

JMO.

Posted 10/23/18 8:57 AM
 
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Pomegranate5
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Re: that's not my job

Posted by klingklang77

If I were you, I’d just say that it will take me X amount of time and I would like to be paid extra for it. But I’ve become pushy like that.



You are freelance, so it's completely different for you.

No offense, but this is the worst thing SHE could do, especially to someone who is on the same level as her boss. It sounds like she is pretty low on the totem pole and IIRC she already received a somewhat negative job review recently, so at this point I would be saying yes to everything and doing so with a smile on my face.

If her boss doesn't want her doing it, he would have chimed in and replied back saying so.

Posted 10/23/18 9:07 AM
 

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Re: that's not my job

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Posted by klingklang77

If I were you, I’d just say that it will take me X amount of time and I would like to be paid extra for it. But I’ve become pushy like that.



You are freelance, so it's completely different for you.

No offense, but this is the worst thing SHE could do, especially to someone who is on the same level as her boss. It sounds like she is pretty low on the totem pole and IIRC she already received a somewhat negative job review recently, so at this point I would be saying yes to everything and doing so with a smile on my face.

If her boss doesn't want her doing it, he would have chimed in and replied back saying so.



You are right. Freelance is completely different.

The OP should be looking around for another job.

Posted 10/23/18 9:55 AM
 

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Re: that's not my job

Posted by MarathonKnitter

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thanks for the replies.

i'm going to tell her that sympathy cards are time sensitive and i am busy this week... which i am. there is a week-long specialist meeting that i'm "hosting."

i'm going t add that the precedent has been that each manager sends their own card because it's more personal and it allows them to have the team sign the card as well... JUST LIKE MANAGER X DID LAST WEEK WHEN AN EMPLOYEE LOST HIS WIFE TO CANCER.

i will be as polite and professional as i can.



I wouldn't include the last line in caps.. not sure if you were just stressing a point. I would also tell your manager so he knows. Just in case she goes to him and complains.



lol

it was not in caps. don't worry. i don't want to get fired lol

she copied my boss in her request. i copied him in my reply... another reason i was as sweet as pie when i turned her down.




How did she and your boss respond to your email?

Posted 10/23/18 10:03 AM
 

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Re: that's not my job

Posted by MsSissy

Posted by MarathonKnitter

Posted by Sash

Posted by MarathonKnitter

thanks for the replies.

i'm going to tell her that sympathy cards are time sensitive and i am busy this week... which i am. there is a week-long specialist meeting that i'm "hosting."

i'm going t add that the precedent has been that each manager sends their own card because it's more personal and it allows them to have the team sign the card as well... JUST LIKE MANAGER X DID LAST WEEK WHEN AN EMPLOYEE LOST HIS WIFE TO CANCER.

i will be as polite and professional as i can.



I wouldn't include the last line in caps.. not sure if you were just stressing a point. I would also tell your manager so he knows. Just in case she goes to him and complains.



lol

it was not in caps. don't worry. i don't want to get fired lol

she copied my boss in her request. i copied him in my reply... another reason i was as sweet as pie when i turned her down.




How did she and your boss respond to your email?



Im curious too.. Also @MarathonKnitter - I meant I wouldn't have included that line at all. But seems like the email had went out already.

Hope it worked out.

Posted 10/23/18 10:04 AM
 

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Re: that's not my job

Posted by b2b777

I might be in the minority but I would have probably just done it, especially if my boss was cc'd. I would have wanted my boss to see that i go above and beyond when asked. That attitude has served me well over the course of my career.



ditto

Posted 10/23/18 10:17 AM
 

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Re: that's not my job

Posted by Pomegranate5

Posted by klingklang77

If I were you, I’d just say that it will take me X amount of time and I would like to be paid extra for it. But I’ve become pushy like that.



You are freelance, so it's completely different for you.

No offense, but this is the worst thing SHE could do, especially to someone who is on the same level as her boss. It sounds like she is pretty low on the totem pole and IIRC she already received a somewhat negative job review recently, so at this point I would be saying yes to everything and doing so with a smile on my face.

If her boss doesn't want her doing it, he would have chimed in and replied back saying so.



Agree.

Also was it a sympathy card for someone within the company? I mean honestly I probably would have done it either way but if it's a sympathy card for someone within the company even more so.

Posted 10/23/18 11:11 AM
 

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Re: that's not my job

Posted by jellybean78

Posted by Pomegranate5

Posted by klingklang77

If I were you, I’d just say that it will take me X amount of time and I would like to be paid extra for it. But I’ve become pushy like that.



You are freelance, so it's completely different for you.

No offense, but this is the worst thing SHE could do, especially to someone who is on the same level as her boss. It sounds like she is pretty low on the totem pole and IIRC she already received a somewhat negative job review recently, so at this point I would be saying yes to everything and doing so with a smile on my face.

If her boss doesn't want her doing it, he would have chimed in and replied back saying so.



Agree.

Also was it a sympathy card for someone within the company? I mean honestly I probably would have done it either way but if it's a sympathy card for someone within the company even more so.



Agree x2.

Also, since her boss was cc'd on it, her boss could have stepped in and said that she's too busy. My interpretation of the boss being cc'd was that it should be done.

Posted 10/23/18 11:30 AM
 

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Re: that's not my job

i was away hosting an event and didn't see this. wow.

ok.
i didn't give all the details because i didn't think i had to. i was just looking for a little help on the wording of my reply.

so, since this has gone a bit sideways...

* yes, i had been given a not-so-wonderful review.... which was recently reversed because it was confirmed that this particular manager has made a habit of abusing my help.

* the fact that she cc'ed the boss backfired on her.

* this particular manager has pushed and has taken me away from tasks i'm supposed to be doing. at first, i was willing to help. it eventually got abusive and i pushed back... assuming we were all adults and she would get the hint. she pushed and pushed and got me in trouble, but it only worked until the boss got the big picture.



do i like being asked to do something that people are very capable of doing, and i know they have the time and resources to do? no. do i do it? usually. this particular manager with this particular task just felt "yucky." how do you not send a sympathy card to someone on your team? this is a manager who has a horrible office. morale is in the toilet. 99% of the reasons stated is that she refuses to relate to the people who report to her... again, this being the reason this request backfired. bossman said something about how can she expect to have good morale with her people if she can't pen a sympathy card.

i am not a lazy, dismissive employee. am i perfect, no... but i am not trying to not do my job. this was a very specific situation

Posted 10/25/18 12:16 PM
 

schmora15
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Re: that's not my job

If she copied your boss on the email I would have just did it or asked your boss about it. Your boss may have told her to have you do it.

Posted 10/29/18 8:00 PM
 
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