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Bugaboo
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Re: Please tell me I'm being silly - buyers asking for things
I would stand your ground. Have your lawyer go back and explain again that it has sentimental value but you would replace it with something of equal value or give them a credit. If they won't budge over something like this then they're completely unreasonable, even if it was an oversight on your part.
I think you're going to really regret letting them have it and it's going to eat away at you down the road. I'm not one to be really sentimental but if my parents gave me something like that I would definitely want to take it with me.
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Re: Please tell me I'm being silly - buyers asking for things
Posted by Bugaboo
I would stand your ground. Have your lawyer go back and explain again that it has sentimental value but you would replace it with something of equal value or give them a credit. If they won't budge over something like this then they're completely unreasonable, even if it was an oversight on your part.
I think you're going to really regret letting them have it and it's going to eat away at you down the road. I'm not one to be really sentimental but if my parents gave me something like that I would definitely want to take it with me.
Definitely! If you lose the buyer, I'm sure another one will come along! It's not like your house has been on the market for a year. It's a been a month. I personally wouldn't want to deal with shittttty buyers like them anyway!
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| Posted 4/24/15 10:50 AM |
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Hofstra26
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Re: Please tell me I'm being silly - buyers asking for things
This is one of those things where if you don't push the issue to try and get what you want then when all is said and done, you're going to be kicking yourself and have regrets about NOT getting the one thing that means a lot to you. Even if it is just a light fixture.
I would appeal to the new buyers by writing a letter and having the attorney present it to them. Give them the history, explain what it means to you to have this fixture come with you to your new home, and that you will be more than happy to work out something with them if they agree to giving you your fixture. I think that sometimes telling people "your story" makes them more likely to want to help you out. If all they hear is you want to keep your light with no other explanation they probably just responded with "too bad" because they don't understand what it means to you. So make them understand. I can't imagine if I was the buyer NOT being sympathetic and cooperative, for them it's "just a light fixture" and can EASILY be replaced by something else they like. For you it's memories and you shouldn't have to give that up.
I hope it all works out. 
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| Posted 4/24/15 11:37 AM |
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Hofstra26
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Re: Please tell me I'm being silly - buyers asking for things
Posted by LSP2005
Your realtor did a horrible job explaining things to you. Things that are attached to the walls and ceilings including but not limited to mirrors, shelving, chandeliers, towel holders, marble slab two leg table that is attached to the wall you might call it furniture, but it has become part of the home. If you want something like that to go with you remove before listing or specifically exclude it in the listing and tell your attorney that it is non negotiable.
That's so crazy! I'm glad I know this now because when it comes time to sell my house down the road I'll be damned if I'm leaving the new owners my decorative shelves, decorative mirrors, and even curtain rods I might love and want in my new home. That's nuts. I get the light fixture and appliances BUT to me, everything else is decorative and MINE. Now I'll be sure to have that excluded when and if we ever sell our home. I honestly had no idea either, I've never sold a home. I'm glad I saw this thread.
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| Posted 4/24/15 11:43 AM |
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tourist
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Re: Please tell me I'm being silly - buyers asking for things
You are not being silly I would be pissed too. If your realtor never explained it, I would have thought putting in the contract was enough.
I get what Christine is saying about the offer $ based on what the house looks like, but since you wrote it in the contract, it should have been obvious to the seller that you were attached to it & they should have accepted your offer of a credit. I wonder if they think that since you excluded in the contract that it is exceptionally valuable.
I didn't know that about shelves. I will obviously leave my Elfa in the closets,b/c they were designed to fit those closets, nut my sellers left a little decorative shelf that would just hold a candle or small vase & it was not my style at all. I would feel bad if they only left it b/c they thought they had to, since it ended up at Goodwill.
It's kind of odd, but I'd want my curtain rods too. Even if I wasn't sure if they would fit the new place--finding ones I liked was alawys a PIA.
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LILady7
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Please tell me I'm being silly - buyers asking for things
This whole post is upsetting to me. I can't believe that the buyers are pushing to keep something that has sentimental value to you.
For what it's worth, I recently purchased a home and was told from the start that the foyer chandelier was not included. Fast forward to after contracts were signed, the sellers told us they wanted to take the dining room chandelier with them as well (they matched, etc). We totally understood and had no problem with that either since we wanted to do our own decorating.
I agree with the other posters that you should contact your attorney right away to tell the buyers they cannot have it. I can't imagine them walking from the deal, but if they do so be it. It may be a blessing in disguise.
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| Posted 4/24/15 1:49 PM |
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JME78
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Re: Please tell me I'm being silly - buyers asking for things
Posted by LILady7
This whole post is upsetting to me. I can't believe that the buyers are pushing to keep something that has sentimental value to you.
The buyers do not know that it has sentimental value to her. They like the fixture that they saw and they want it. I don't fault them.
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| Posted 4/24/15 2:11 PM |
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MrsG823
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Please tell me I'm being silly - buyers asking for things
You are not being silly. If you think you will regret leaving the light fixture behind do not leave it. Explain your reason for wanting to take the light fixture with you. If the buyers still will not budge then you have to evaluate if the sentimental value of the fixture is worth losing the sale- in my case it would be--my Dining room chandelier was a gift from my parents-- it is close in style to the one my grandmother had in her dining room my entire life. my parents bought it for me the Cheistmas I was pregnant with my dd.
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| Posted 4/24/15 7:30 PM |
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LSP2005
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Re: Please tell me I'm being silly - buyers asking for things
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Posted by LILady7
This whole post is upsetting to me. I can't believe that the buyers are pushing to keep something that has sentimental value to you.
The buyers do not know that it has sentimental value to her. They like the fixture that they saw and they want it. I don't fault them.
I don't fault the buyers, I do take issue with the realtor for not explaining fixtures to the op.
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| Posted 4/24/15 7:41 PM |
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LIMomma
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Re: Please tell me I'm being silly - buyers asking for things
You are not being silly, PLEASE consider NOT signing until you get to keep it. Something similar happened to us and I did not take with me something that had no big monetary value but sentimental value. I regret it, every . single. day. PLEASE if it's bothering you now, do what you need to do to make sure that it stays with you.
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| Posted 4/24/15 7:50 PM |
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LILady7
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Re: Please tell me I'm being silly - buyers asking for things
Posted by JME78
Posted by LILady7
This whole post is upsetting to me. I can't believe that the buyers are pushing to keep something that has sentimental value to you.
The buyers do not know that it has sentimental value to her. They like the fixture that they saw and they want it. I don't fault them.
I missed that, I thought that it was explained to the buyers already. In any case I hope it works out for the OP.
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sunnygirl
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Re: Please tell me I'm being silly - buyers asking for things
i don't get this at all when I buy a house I fully expect the sellers to remove all chandeliers shelving etc even if they left it I would probably remove and get my own to match my style, and I know listings will say washer dryer included but again an item I fully expect to get on my own, I don't want to use someone else's old w/d
eta also some of you are saying you should remove the chandelier before showing but if you are living in the house how are you supposed to remove it and live with no light?? obv it should have been stated not included, I think if I saw a fixture I loved I would ask if its included but I would never expect it
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alli3131
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Re: Please tell me I'm being silly - buyers asking for things
Posted by sunnygirl
i don't get this at all when I buy a house I fully expect the sellers to remove all chandeliers shelving etc even if they left it I would probably remove and get my own to match my style, and I know listings will say washer dryer included but again an item I fully expect to get on my own, I don't want to use someone else's old w/d
eta also some of you are saying you should remove the chandelier before showing but if you are living in the house how are you supposed to remove it and live with no light?? obv it should have been stated not included, I think if I saw a fixture I loved I would ask if its included but I would never expect it
It is easy enough to remove the sentimental chandelier and hang up an cheap one from HD before you list. This is actually done all the time.
Easier than deal with the upset feelings the OP is dealign with now.
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ChilisWife
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Re: Please tell me I'm being silly - buyers asking for things
Can't you offer to give them a credit to buy a new light fixture? At the end of the day you are not obligated to sell your home to these buyers if you haven't signed a contract yet. I doubt they would kill a deal over it, if you were willing to adjust the sales price.
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| Posted 4/25/15 12:34 PM |
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FirstMate
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Re: Please tell me I'm being silly - buyers asking for things
If you were my clients, I would just tell them no. What I would tell you to do is offer them a replacement or a credit for the value of the chandelier. If they really want your house, they aren't going to bust a deal over a light. If they do, be glad you won't have to work with such difficult people. Inventory is low right now so I would hedge my bets and tell them the chandelier is non negotiable. Period.
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Sparrow
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Re: Please tell me I'm being silly - buyers asking for things
Posted by Jacquelina
I think you should just replace it with something similiar...i doubt they will even notice its not the same one...LOL. May be bad advice, but I dont see how you can remember exactly what something looks like going through a house only a couple of times!
I would be afraid to do this. They very likely might have pictures or it might be in photos in the listing. I wouldn't want to do anything that would go against the legal contract.
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sunnyflies
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Please tell me I'm being silly - buyers asking for things
I had a deal fall through last year after the buyer kept adding on things he wanted. It got crazy.
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MarisaK
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Re: Please tell me I'm being silly - buyers asking for things
Is there any way you could talk to your realtor about it? Maybe the 'credit' is what's throwing them off b/c then they have to go through the hassle of buying something and having the electrician in to hang it etc -
What if you replace the chandelier with something similar?
Is the current piece very distinctive?
I would think as long as something was there of a similar style, it wouldn't be a problem, unless they recognized the current piece as being something worth a samll fortune .......
Otherwise, they're just being petty jerks !
Sometimes when you deal w/ the lawyers it's all very black and white
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ave1024
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Please tell me I'm being silly - buyers asking for things
Getting just a "credit" is a hassle. If I was the buyer I would expect the chandelier. If not, then I would expect to pick out a chandelier that I wanted and have the sellers pay to install it so I don't need to be bothered.
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TheDivineMrsM
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Please tell me I'm being silly - buyers asking for things
I'd let it go... and then make sure that something "accidentally" happened to the fixture. ("Oh no! My cleaning lady was dusting and a piece broke right off!") Anything that breaks between contract and closing has to be replaced. Rather than a credit, let them pick out whatever fixture they'd like as a replacement and arrange to have it installed.
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Dani
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Re: Please tell me I'm being silly - buyers asking for things
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Thanks everyone. We placed a call back to our attorney and he is checking with the buyers attorney to see if they will accept a credit towards a new light fixture.
Whelp that was fast. They immediately declined the credit. They want the fixture that is currently there.
 Sucks, but looking back it's our own faults. We didn't think to take it down prior to listing and we didn't tell our realtor that it would stay because we assumed that would be something we discussed once we went to contract. Again, it the grand scheme of things I guess it's not a big issue, but it's disappointing. Thankfully it's not like a family heirloom or anything, but it would have been nice to be able to take it with us since it's come to every home I've owned thus far.
honestly, that buyer sounds ridiculous. there is no way i would have let them take mine because mine was from my parents too. it was written in as not included. i know you dont want to lose the sale, but theyre seriously going to give up a house because of a chandelier that was never theirs?
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BargainMama
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Re: Please tell me I'm being silly - buyers asking for things
Posted by TheDivineMrsM
I'd let it go... and then make sure that something "accidentally" happened to the fixture. ("Oh no! My cleaning lady was dusting and a piece broke right off!") Anything that breaks between contract and closing has to be replaced. Rather than a credit, let them pick out whatever fixture they'd like as a replacement and arrange to have it installed.
Ding ding!
What ended up happening OP?
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Pomegranate5
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Re: Please tell me I'm being silly - buyers asking for things
Posted by TheDivineMrsM
I'd let it go... and then make sure that something "accidentally" happened to the fixture. ("Oh no! My cleaning lady was dusting and a piece broke right off!") Anything that breaks between contract and closing has to be replaced. Rather than a credit, let them pick out whatever fixture they'd like as a replacement and arrange to have it installed.
I'm a spiteful B so this is what I would end up doing too. Are they really going to walk away midway through the process because of this? They sound obnoxious.
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ave1024
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Re: Please tell me I'm being silly - buyers asking for things
Posted by Pomegranate5
Posted by TheDivineMrsM
I'd let it go... and then make sure that something "accidentally" happened to the fixture. ("Oh no! My cleaning lady was dusting and a piece broke right off!") Anything that breaks between contract and closing has to be replaced. Rather than a credit, let them pick out whatever fixture they'd like as a replacement and arrange to have it installed.
I'm a spiteful B so this is what I would end up doing too. Are they really going to walk away midway through the process because of this? They sound obnoxious.
Many buyers may walk away and on the other hand as a seller do you want to lose a qualified buyer over a chandelier? But a new one and create new memories.
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| Posted 4/28/15 10:26 AM |
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HomeIsWithU
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Re: Please tell me I'm being silly - buyers asking for things
Posted by BargainMama
Posted by TheDivineMrsM
I'd let it go... and then make sure that something "accidentally" happened to the fixture. ("Oh no! My cleaning lady was dusting and a piece broke right off!") Anything that breaks between contract and closing has to be replaced. Rather than a credit, let them pick out whatever fixture they'd like as a replacement and arrange to have it installed.
Ding ding!
What ended up happening OP?
We ended up letting it go. By the time we had contacted our lawyer again to discuss it further, he had already sent the contract back over to them and we didn't want to retract it and delay the signing any more. I'm definitely bummed about it, but I also feel like it's too late now. We've both signed the contracts at this point.
We thought about replacing it with something similar but the chandelier is clearly obvious in several pictures of our listing, so I would be very nervous that at the walk through they would know it wasn't the same one and make a big deal about it.
I didn't think about this suggestion though, and it's a great one! I might just have to have a little "accident" and have to replace it 
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