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CrankyPants
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Re: A friend of a friend's 8 year old son...
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I am so sorry for them!
Do you know if he had the live vaccination?
In reading through the link, though other vaccines can cause ADEM, it doesn't appear that the flu vaccine can cause ADEM, but the flu itself can. If he got the live vaccine, maybe he developed the flu and that is how he got this?
In any case, my heart goes out to this little boy and his family
Where in that link does it say that the flu vaccine cannot cause it? Am I missing something? It says a vaccine can cause this, as well as a virus, infection, etc.
This sounds very similar to Guillan Barre syndrome, which can result from a flu shot or a viral infection itself.
In the causes section it says this:
Causes, Antecedent HistoryViral infections thought to induce ADEM include influenza virus, enterovirus, measles, mumps, rubella, varicella zoster, Epstein Barr virus, cytomegalovirus, herpes simplex virus, hepatitis A, and coxsackievirus; while the bacterial infections include Mycoplasma pneumoniae, Borrelia burgdorferi, Leptospira, and beta-hemolytic Streptococci.[14] The only vaccine proven to induce ADEM is the Semple form of the rabies vaccine, but hepatitis B, pertussis, diphtheria, measles, mumps, rubella, pneumococcus, varicella, influenza, Japanese encephalitis, and polio vaccines have all been implicated.[6][15][16][17][18][19][20][21][22][23][24] In rare cases, ADEM seems to follow from organ transplantation.[18] The risk of ADEM from measles vaccination is about 1 to 2 per million,[17] which is far lower than the risk of developing ADEM from an actual measles infection, which is about 1 per 1000 for measles (and 1 per 5000 for rubella).[19][25] Measles infection also appears to lead to worse ADEM outcomes than cases associated with measles immunization. Some vaccines, later shown to have been contaminated with host animal CNS tissue, have ADEM incident rates as high as 1 in 600
Edited because the Flu vaccine is listed as a vaccine that has been implicated.
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Re: A friend of a friend's 8 year old son...
How awful for that family. :(
Posted by Goobster
Posted by CrankyPants
I am so sorry for them!
Do you know if he had the live vaccination?
In reading through the link, though other vaccines can cause ADEM, it doesn't appear that the flu vaccine can cause ADEM, but the flu itself can. If he got the live vaccine, maybe he developed the flu and that is how he got this?
In any case, my heart goes out to this little boy and his family
Where in that link does it say that the flu vaccine cannot cause it? Am I missing something? It says a vaccine can cause this, as well as a virus, infection, etc.
This sounds very similar to Guillan Barre syndrome, which can result from a flu shot or a viral infection itself.
I think it said that the flu vacc has been implicated but is very rarely the cause and there was another vaccine that was cited as a more frequent culprit.
ETA- it said that the semple form of the rabies vaccine could cause it.
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CrankyPants
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Re: A friend of a friend's 8 year old son...
Posted by CrankyPants
Posted by Goobster
Posted by CrankyPants
I am so sorry for them!
Do you know if he had the live vaccination?
In reading through the link, though other vaccines can cause ADEM, it doesn't appear that the flu vaccine can cause ADEM, but the flu itself can. If he got the live vaccine, maybe he developed the flu and that is how he got this?
In any case, my heart goes out to this little boy and his family
Ack-I just saw the flu is listed in there
Where in that link does it say that the flu vaccine cannot cause it? Am I missing something? It says a vaccine can cause this, as well as a virus, infection, etc.
This sounds very similar to Guillan Barre syndrome, which can result from a flu shot or a viral infection itself.
In the causes section it says this:
Causes, Antecedent HistoryViral infections thought to induce ADEM include influenza virus, enterovirus, measles, mumps, rubella, varicella zoster, Epstein Barr virus, cytomegalovirus, herpes simplex virus, hepatitis A, and coxsackievirus; while the bacterial infections include Mycoplasma pneumoniae, Borrelia burgdorferi, Leptospira, and beta-hemolytic Streptococci.[14] The only vaccine proven to induce ADEM is the Semple form of the rabies vaccine, but hepatitis B, pertussis, diphtheria, measles, mumps, rubella, pneumococcus, varicella, influenza, Japanese encephalitis, and polio vaccines have all been implicated.[6][15][16][17][18][19][20][21][22][23][24] In rare cases, ADEM seems to follow from organ transplantation.[18] The risk of ADEM from measles vaccination is about 1 to 2 per million,[17] which is far lower than the risk of developing ADEM from an actual measles infection, which is about 1 per 1000 for measles (and 1 per 5000 for rubella).[19][25] Measles infection also appears to lead to worse ADEM outcomes than cases associated with measles immunization. Some vaccines, later shown to have been contaminated with host animal CNS tissue, have ADEM incident rates as high as 1 in 600
It appears that there are some vaccines that may cause this, but the flu one isn't listed.
Just edited my posts because the Flu vaccine is listed in there
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Goobster
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Re: A friend of a friend's 8 year old son...
 Either way, it's awful.
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4ForMe
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Re: A friend of a friend's 8 year old son...
I really don't know any of the specific details. My friend just told me that he got a flu shot on Tuesday and then mentioned ADEM and that it was very rare for this to happen. If I hear anymore details I will update.
I can't stop thinking about this poor family. 
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CrankyPants
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Re: A friend of a friend's 8 year old son...
Posted by 4ForMe
I really don't know any of the specific details. My friend just told me that he got a flu shot on Tuesday and then mentioned ADEM and that it was very rare for this to happen. If I hear anymore details I will update.
I can't stop thinking about this poor family.
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summerBaby10
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Re: A friend of a friend's 8 year old son...
omg, I am so sorry to hear this. What a nightmare for your friend.
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luvsbob4603
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DRMom
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Re: A friend of a friend's 8 year old son...
This is so horrible. All my thoughts are with them
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jellybean78
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Re: A friend of a friend's 8 year old son...
How horrible
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Re: A friend of a friend's 8 year old son...
truly heartbreaking
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Peainapod
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Re: A friend of a friend's 8 year old son...
This sounds exactly like what happened to me when i was an infant after I got vaccinated with the measle shot. I was running a fever and the dr. vaccinated me anyway.
Later that day or the next day i think (from what my mom said) i was convulsing, having seizures, high fevers. I was in intensive care for 2 weeks. They told my parents I would be lucky if i was brain dead the rest of my life.
Here i am today 30 years old.
I Hope and pray your friends son gets better
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Re: A friend of a friend's 8 year old son...
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karenchad
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Re: A friend of a friend's 8 year old son...
I'm not sure if this is the same family (which I assume it is)...The mother of the little boy is my childhood neighbor and we've known the family for over 30 years.
He passed away this morning after being taken off of life support. He has a younger brother too.
I can't even imagine what they are going through, and my heart breaks everytime I even think about it.
From what I have been told, the flu shot had nothing to do with him contracting ADEM, it was just a freak coincidence.
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Goobster
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Re: A friend of a friend's 8 year old son...
Posted by karenchad
I'm not sure if this is the same family (which I assume it is)...The mother of the little boy is my childhood neighbor and we've known the family for over 30 years.
He passed away this morning after being taken off of life support. He has a younger brother too.
I can't even imagine what they are going through, and my heart breaks everytime I even think about it.
From what I have been told, the flu shot had nothing to do with him contracting ADEM, it was just a freak coincidence.
I don't understand how it can fully be determined that the flu shot had nothing to do with the ADEM. Not looking to debate at all, though, so please don't take it that way.
How tragic and horrific for that family.
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danielleandscott
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Re: A friend of a friend's 8 year old son...
heartbreaking,
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Diane
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Re: A friend of a friend's 8 year old son...
We just found out today that the child's father is an old HS friend of my husband's. They are not super close friends but they are in the same crowd and they run into each other from time to time. My husband is very upset and so are his other friends. What we heard was that it's not totally confirmed to have been related to the flu shot but it is suspected. Either way, this is a horrible loss. My husband is probably going to the wake to pay his respects.
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Sash
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Re: A friend of a friend's 8 year old son...
This is heart wrenching, my prayers go out to his family and may his little soul rest in peace
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