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LuckyStar
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Re: When will we go back to "the old normal"?

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by LuckyStar

You cannot choose to go back to normal during a pandemic. The pandemic chooses for you. If there's another outbreak, everything will shut down again. More people could get sick and the economy could further suffer because of your kid's party or you not having to wear a mask at Disney (which takes the cake, IMO).

Also, this obsession some of you have with hugging people is super creepy. I hug my kid and my DH. Do you normally hug strangers? Bizarre.



I think what we're seeing is people settling into this "new normal" and becoming okay with a life that is limited in both social interactions and human experiences.

As for masks, they are a temporary solution to a problem which is hopefully short term. I am sure most people, including myself, have no desire for masks to be some new way of life permanently.

Hugging is creepy? That is literally the strangest comment I've ever read. Chat Icon There is no obsession with hugging however, craving human interaction and a desire to be near or even touch others is not weird, that's normal. I hug friends that I haven't seen in a while, I hug my parents still, I use to kiss people I was friends with on the cheek and shake hands with strangers. ALL normal.

Staying 6ft away from people and wearing a mask isn't normal. Or healthy.



I think the point is, everyone on here is complaining about such insane reasons for wanting to go back to normal. The focus on getting back to normal should be on people getting their jobs back and kids going back to school full time. There are people truly suffering and then there are people complaining about their cruises and Disney being less magical. It sounds absurd and completely out of touch with reality.

Posted 9/8/20 1:48 PM
 
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NervousNell
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Re: When will we go back to "the old normal"?

Posted by LuckyStar

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by LuckyStar

You cannot choose to go back to normal during a pandemic. The pandemic chooses for you. If there's another outbreak, everything will shut down again. More people could get sick and the economy could further suffer because of your kid's party or you not having to wear a mask at Disney (which takes the cake, IMO).

Also, this obsession some of you have with hugging people is super creepy. I hug my kid and my DH. Do you normally hug strangers? Bizarre.



I think what we're seeing is people settling into this "new normal" and becoming okay with a life that is limited in both social interactions and human experiences.

As for masks, they are a temporary solution to a problem which is hopefully short term. I am sure most people, including myself, have no desire for masks to be some new way of life permanently.

Hugging is creepy? That is literally the strangest comment I've ever read. Chat Icon There is no obsession with hugging however, craving human interaction and a desire to be near or even touch others is not weird, that's normal. I hug friends that I haven't seen in a while, I hug my parents still, I use to kiss people I was friends with on the cheek and shake hands with strangers. ALL normal.

Staying 6ft away from people and wearing a mask isn't normal. Or healthy.



I think the point is, everyone on here is complaining about such insane reasons for wanting to go back to normal. The focus on getting back to normal should be on people getting their jobs back and kids going back to school full time. There are people truly suffering and then there are people complaining about their cruises and Disney being less magical. It sounds absurd and completely out of touch with reality.



Honestly that is all I really want for now. My daughter starts school full time in person every day tomorrow, thank God. I want that to stay that way.
And I want to go back to work.
Real work, not working in my house with nowhere to sit and things so slow because our business is failing.
Seeing my co-workers. Meeting with clients. Selling. Driving business. In person.
Our business and numbers are truly suffering since the shut down as the nature of our business is dependent on people IN offices, etc.
So yeah, I want to have to stop worrying about my job.
I hate Disney and cruises. Chat Icon
I'd like to go to Europe eventually though.

Posted 9/8/20 1:53 PM
 

blu6385

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Re: When will we go back to "the old normal"?

Posted by LuckyStar

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by LuckyStar

You cannot choose to go back to normal during a pandemic. The pandemic chooses for you. If there's another outbreak, everything will shut down again. More people could get sick and the economy could further suffer because of your kid's party or you not having to wear a mask at Disney (which takes the cake, IMO).

Also, this obsession some of you have with hugging people is super creepy. I hug my kid and my DH. Do you normally hug strangers? Bizarre.



I think what we're seeing is people settling into this "new normal" and becoming okay with a life that is limited in both social interactions and human experiences.

As for masks, they are a temporary solution to a problem which is hopefully short term. I am sure most people, including myself, have no desire for masks to be some new way of life permanently.

Hugging is creepy? That is literally the strangest comment I've ever read. Chat Icon There is no obsession with hugging however, craving human interaction and a desire to be near or even touch others is not weird, that's normal. I hug friends that I haven't seen in a while, I hug my parents still, I use to kiss people I was friends with on the cheek and shake hands with strangers. ALL normal.

Staying 6ft away from people and wearing a mask isn't normal. Or healthy.



I think the point is, everyone on here is complaining about such insane reasons for wanting to go back to normal. The focus on getting back to normal should be on people getting their jobs back and kids going back to school full time. There are people truly suffering and then there are people complaining about their cruises and Disney being less magical. It sounds absurd and completely out of touch with reality.




I did not take anything anyone said as complaining. The question was when do you think we will be back to the old normal.

People gave their opinions.

Someone said what exactly isn’t normal now and people gave example of what’s not normal.

That’s not complaining they are just saying it will be normal when we can start doing those things again.

Message edited 9/8/2020 1:57:33 PM.

Posted 9/8/20 1:56 PM
 

TwinMommyToBoys
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Re: When will we go back to "the old normal"?

Posted by Hofstra26


As for masks, they are a temporary solution to a problem which is hopefully short term. I am sure most people, including myself, have no desire for masks to be some new way of life permanently. .



You hit the nail on the head in saying that masks are a temporary solution. They work in preventing the spread of Corona virus, there is the scientific evidence but then you just have these people out there that believe masks are somehow going to kill them or that mask wearing = communism and have non compliance and therefore spikes in covid cases and we have the vicious cycle. Most Americans care about one person... themselves and people don’t realize that mask wearing isn’t about what they believe it’s also about being courteous to others and protecting them...
So that gets me to the next point in making the masks temporary, more than likely there will be a vaccine for coronavirus and then you will have 1/2 of the population saying well I’m not getting vaccinated. Unfortunately people can’t have their cake and eat it too. People in this anti- vaccine movement (which for the life of me I don’t understand... vaccines don’t cause autism...) if you don’t want to vaccinate or don’t want to wear a mask then what is the solution!? In all seriousness. There was a day in my hospital on our highest case count we had 3 ICU beds left... not good... can’t go back to that so in someway the virus needs to be contained or eradicated. Things like measles were considered to be elongated based on the CDC data, people continue to contract measles though from other places that the disease is still present and then bring it to their home or home town and infect others because of the lack of vaccination and once again there is now an outbreak that could have been prevented through vaccination so I think it will come down to a choice of requiring a vaccine to go to school/ work or wearing a mask unless there is some alternative to prevent the spread out there that is not known and who knows if the vaccine (if there will be one) will ever prevent it the virus or he like the flu vaccine which isn’t going to prevent the flu. Too much unknown and too much divide in this country.

Posted 9/8/20 1:57 PM
 

ali120206
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Re: When will we go back to "the old normal"?

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by LuckyStar

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by LuckyStar

You cannot choose to go back to normal during a pandemic. The pandemic chooses for you. If there's another outbreak, everything will shut down again. More people could get sick and the economy could further suffer because of your kid's party or you not having to wear a mask at Disney (which takes the cake, IMO).

Also, this obsession some of you have with hugging people is super creepy. I hug my kid and my DH. Do you normally hug strangers? Bizarre.



I think what we're seeing is people settling into this "new normal" and becoming okay with a life that is limited in both social interactions and human experiences.

As for masks, they are a temporary solution to a problem which is hopefully short term. I am sure most people, including myself, have no desire for masks to be some new way of life permanently.

Hugging is creepy? That is literally the strangest comment I've ever read. Chat Icon There is no obsession with hugging however, craving human interaction and a desire to be near or even touch others is not weird, that's normal. I hug friends that I haven't seen in a while, I hug my parents still, I use to kiss people I was friends with on the cheek and shake hands with strangers. ALL normal.

Staying 6ft away from people and wearing a mask isn't normal. Or healthy.



I think the point is, everyone on here is complaining about such insane reasons for wanting to go back to normal. The focus on getting back to normal should be on people getting their jobs back and kids going back to school full time. There are people truly suffering and then there are people complaining about their cruises and Disney being less magical. It sounds absurd and completely out of touch with reality.



Honestly that is all I really want for now. My daughter starts school full time in person every day tomorrow, thank God. I want that to stay that way.
And I want to go back to work.
Real work, not working in my house with nowhere to sit and things so slow because our business is failing.
Seeing my co-workers. Meeting with clients. Selling. Driving business. In person.
Our business and numbers are truly suffering since the shut down as the nature of our business is dependent on people IN offices, etc.
So yeah, I want to have to stop worrying about my job.
I hate Disney and cruises. Chat Icon
I'd like to go to Europe eventually though.



Jealous - my kids (5th and 3rd) are remote this week all week and then they only get to go on Mondays and Tuesdays. Definitely not normal... I've given up on working today because every 5 minutes someone needs something. And DS 2 finally got his long break (DS 1 had huge breaks every period) but has to log back on as soon as DS 1 is done for the day.

Posted 9/8/20 2:01 PM
 

Hofstra26
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Re: When will we go back to "the old normal"?

Posted by LuckyStar

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by LuckyStar

You cannot choose to go back to normal during a pandemic. The pandemic chooses for you. If there's another outbreak, everything will shut down again. More people could get sick and the economy could further suffer because of your kid's party or you not having to wear a mask at Disney (which takes the cake, IMO).

Also, this obsession some of you have with hugging people is super creepy. I hug my kid and my DH. Do you normally hug strangers? Bizarre.



I think what we're seeing is people settling into this "new normal" and becoming okay with a life that is limited in both social interactions and human experiences.

As for masks, they are a temporary solution to a problem which is hopefully short term. I am sure most people, including myself, have no desire for masks to be some new way of life permanently.

Hugging is creepy? That is literally the strangest comment I've ever read. Chat Icon There is no obsession with hugging however, craving human interaction and a desire to be near or even touch others is not weird, that's normal. I hug friends that I haven't seen in a while, I hug my parents still, I use to kiss people I was friends with on the cheek and shake hands with strangers. ALL normal.

Staying 6ft away from people and wearing a mask isn't normal. Or healthy.



I think the point is, everyone on here is complaining about such insane reasons for wanting to go back to normal. The focus on getting back to normal should be on people getting their jobs back and kids going back to school full time. There are people truly suffering and then there are people complaining about their cruises and Disney being less magical. It sounds absurd and completely out of touch with reality.



But there are no "insane reasons". This has been a VERY long, VERY difficult year for all and for SO many different reasons. Craving a return to normalcy, even if it's as silly as a concert or a vacation, is okay. It is OK to miss the things you've lost that make life joyful, no matter how small or insignificant. Telling people grieving the loss of whatever made them happy in life doesn't do anyone any good. We've ALL gone without SO much this year and I know for myself, and I am sure many others, it's taking a mental toll.

So yes, I want my NORMAL life back with all the silly little things that don't matter but that make life better. That includes parties and movies and vacations and weddings and not living behind a mask forever.

Message edited 9/8/2020 2:07:47 PM.

Posted 9/8/20 2:07 PM
 

mommywantsababy
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Re: When will we go back to "the old normal"?

Posted by blu6385

Posted by mommywantsababy

There are multiple kids play places by me where you can rent out the facility.

You could host it at a restaurant.

You could talk to a pizza place about hosting there.

You’re just being stubborn, and there’s easy answers to your questions. I’ve been invited to multiple parties this summer. Granted, we turned them all down, but the invites were still there.



I am not being stubborn at all. I am being serious I dont know of any place open but if you do then please list them!!


As far as i know most places are closed.

I dont want it at a restaurant I am not looking for an adult party I am looking for a kids party for kids to have fun!


again though if places are open I kindly ask you to list them and i will start looking into them!



Sippy cups in seaford
Le play cafe in Long Beach
There’s a cute new art studio for older kids i believe in Roslyn?

I mean, my 6 year old would have a blast at a pizza place for a party-decorate some pizza boxes or something

I haven’t done much more research bc I told my kids no parties this year (they were fine bc they got new iPads instead)

I think the point is that life is what you make of it

Posted 9/8/20 4:22 PM
 

Pomegranate5
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Re: When will we go back to "the old normal"?

Posted by LuckyStar

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by LuckyStar

You cannot choose to go back to normal during a pandemic. The pandemic chooses for you. If there's another outbreak, everything will shut down again. More people could get sick and the economy could further suffer because of your kid's party or you not having to wear a mask at Disney (which takes the cake, IMO).

Also, this obsession some of you have with hugging people is super creepy. I hug my kid and my DH. Do you normally hug strangers? Bizarre.



I think what we're seeing is people settling into this "new normal" and becoming okay with a life that is limited in both social interactions and human experiences.

As for masks, they are a temporary solution to a problem which is hopefully short term. I am sure most people, including myself, have no desire for masks to be some new way of life permanently.

Hugging is creepy? That is literally the strangest comment I've ever read. Chat Icon There is no obsession with hugging however, craving human interaction and a desire to be near or even touch others is not weird, that's normal. I hug friends that I haven't seen in a while, I hug my parents still, I use to kiss people I was friends with on the cheek and shake hands with strangers. ALL normal.

Staying 6ft away from people and wearing a mask isn't normal. Or healthy.



I think the point is, everyone on here is complaining about such insane reasons for wanting to go back to normal. The focus on getting back to normal should be on people getting their jobs back and kids going back to school full time. There are people truly suffering and then there are people complaining about their cruises and Disney being less magical. It sounds absurd and completely out of touch with reality.



But every one of those reasons involves someone's job and livelihood. Whether you want to do that or not, there are millions of people who depend on these industries and on people resuming those activities. The two ideas are tied together.

Posted 9/8/20 4:30 PM
 

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Re: When will we go back to "the old normal"?

Posted by Pomegranate5

Posted by LuckyStar

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by LuckyStar

You cannot choose to go back to normal during a pandemic. The pandemic chooses for you. If there's another outbreak, everything will shut down again. More people could get sick and the economy could further suffer because of your kid's party or you not having to wear a mask at Disney (which takes the cake, IMO).

Also, this obsession some of you have with hugging people is super creepy. I hug my kid and my DH. Do you normally hug strangers? Bizarre.



I think what we're seeing is people settling into this "new normal" and becoming okay with a life that is limited in both social interactions and human experiences.

As for masks, they are a temporary solution to a problem which is hopefully short term. I am sure most people, including myself, have no desire for masks to be some new way of life permanently.

Hugging is creepy? That is literally the strangest comment I've ever read. Chat Icon There is no obsession with hugging however, craving human interaction and a desire to be near or even touch others is not weird, that's normal. I hug friends that I haven't seen in a while, I hug my parents still, I use to kiss people I was friends with on the cheek and shake hands with strangers. ALL normal.

Staying 6ft away from people and wearing a mask isn't normal. Or healthy.



I think the point is, everyone on here is complaining about such insane reasons for wanting to go back to normal. The focus on getting back to normal should be on people getting their jobs back and kids going back to school full time. There are people truly suffering and then there are people complaining about their cruises and Disney being less magical. It sounds absurd and completely out of touch with reality.



But every one of those reasons involves someone's job and livelihood. Whether you want to do that or not, there are millions of people who depend on these industries and on people resuming those activities. The two ideas are tied together.



Ok i get your point but let's be real. Do you really think the people complaining they can't book their cruise or Disney/ European vacation main concern is how their vacation is helping those employees? No, their main concern is enjoying their vacation. If they were so concerned then they would wear their masks while walking around Disney World and wouldn't haven't a problem quarantining when they got back from their vacation.

Posted 9/8/20 4:50 PM
 

Hofstra26
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Re: When will we go back to "the old normal"?

Posted by RainyDay

Posted by Pomegranate5

Posted by LuckyStar

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by LuckyStar

You cannot choose to go back to normal during a pandemic. The pandemic chooses for you. If there's another outbreak, everything will shut down again. More people could get sick and the economy could further suffer because of your kid's party or you not having to wear a mask at Disney (which takes the cake, IMO).

Also, this obsession some of you have with hugging people is super creepy. I hug my kid and my DH. Do you normally hug strangers? Bizarre.



I think what we're seeing is people settling into this "new normal" and becoming okay with a life that is limited in both social interactions and human experiences.

As for masks, they are a temporary solution to a problem which is hopefully short term. I am sure most people, including myself, have no desire for masks to be some new way of life permanently.

Hugging is creepy? That is literally the strangest comment I've ever read. Chat Icon There is no obsession with hugging however, craving human interaction and a desire to be near or even touch others is not weird, that's normal. I hug friends that I haven't seen in a while, I hug my parents still, I use to kiss people I was friends with on the cheek and shake hands with strangers. ALL normal.

Staying 6ft away from people and wearing a mask isn't normal. Or healthy.



I think the point is, everyone on here is complaining about such insane reasons for wanting to go back to normal. The focus on getting back to normal should be on people getting their jobs back and kids going back to school full time. There are people truly suffering and then there are people complaining about their cruises and Disney being less magical. It sounds absurd and completely out of touch with reality.



But every one of those reasons involves someone's job and livelihood. Whether you want to do that or not, there are millions of people who depend on these industries and on people resuming those activities. The two ideas are tied together.



Ok i get your point but let's be real. Do you really think the people complaining they can't book their cruise or Disney/ European vacation main concern is how their vacation is helping those employees? No, their main concern is enjoying their vacation. If they were so concerned then they would wear their masks while walking around Disney World and wouldn't haven't a problem quarantining when they got back from their vacation.
.



Why do you care if someone wants to vacation, Karen? Or if someone hates masks. Or if someone wants a normal life back? Get over yourself. Chat Icon

FTR, I actually have a few friends who are travel agents and they have been severely impacted by this pandemic.

Posted 9/8/20 5:06 PM
 

Naturalmama
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When will we go back to

I think the one thing everyone has to remember here is that the general public doesn't get to decide they are done. Cuomo makes the rules. The whole world can decide they will no longer wear a mask, but then they have to be willing to never go anywhere, because mask wearing is required when indoors.
Disney has been open since July. You can go on vacation, but you have to be willing to deal with the restrictions. I get nobody likes it. I HATE it. I am super depressed just thinking about another shutdown. But at the end of the day, WE have zero control over any of this. All we do have control over is being responsible- and if we aren't, we will be locked down again, whether any of us like it or not.

Posted 9/8/20 5:10 PM
 

seaside
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Re: When will we go back to "the old normal"?

Posted by TwinMommyToBoys

You hit the nail on the head in saying that masks are a temporary solution. They work in preventing the spread of Corona virus, there is the scientific evidence but then you just have these people out there that believe masks are somehow going to kill them or that mask wearing = communism and have non compliance and therefore spikes in covid cases and we have the vicious cycle. Most Americans care about one person... themselves and people don’t realize that mask wearing isn’t about what they believe it’s also about being courteous to others and protecting them...
So that gets me to the next point in making the masks temporary, more than likely there will be a vaccine for coronavirus and then you will have 1/2 of the population saying well I’m not getting vaccinated. Unfortunately people can’t have their cake and eat it too. People in this anti- vaccine movement (which for the life of me I don’t understand... vaccines don’t cause autism...) if you don’t want to vaccinate or don’t want to wear a mask then what is the solution!? In all seriousness. There was a day in my hospital on our highest case count we had 3 ICU beds left... not good... can’t go back to that so in someway the virus needs to be contained or eradicated. Things like measles were considered to be elongated based on the CDC data, people continue to contract measles though from other places that the disease is still present and then bring it to their home or home town and infect others because of the lack of vaccination and once again there is now an outbreak that could have been prevented through vaccination so I think it will come down to a choice of requiring a vaccine to go to school/ work or wearing a mask unless there is some alternative to prevent the spread out there that is not known and who knows if the vaccine (if there will be one) will ever prevent it the virus or he like the flu vaccine which isn’t going to prevent the flu. Too much unknown and too much divide in this country.



Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon THANK. YOU.
Mistrust of basic science, like mask wearing when it's necessary, is beyond dangerous.

We all want our old lives back. I don't know anyone who doesn't. Resilience is about grappling with what is and behaving in a healthy way and with regard for others.

The insane nastiness on here for months showed me early on how out of control this has made some people feel. People are usually inexplicably cruel and nasty when they feel most vulnerable and out of control.

But make no mistake--I don't know anyone who didn't enjoy their lives before and doesn't want theirs back. I doubt any of you do,

Posted 9/8/20 5:31 PM
 

LuckyStar
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Re: When will we go back to "the old normal"?

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by RainyDay

Posted by Pomegranate5

Posted by LuckyStar

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by LuckyStar

You cannot choose to go back to normal during a pandemic. The pandemic chooses for you. If there's another outbreak, everything will shut down again. More people could get sick and the economy could further suffer because of your kid's party or you not having to wear a mask at Disney (which takes the cake, IMO).

Also, this obsession some of you have with hugging people is super creepy. I hug my kid and my DH. Do you normally hug strangers? Bizarre.



I think what we're seeing is people settling into this "new normal" and becoming okay with a life that is limited in both social interactions and human experiences.

As for masks, they are a temporary solution to a problem which is hopefully short term. I am sure most people, including myself, have no desire for masks to be some new way of life permanently.

Hugging is creepy? That is literally the strangest comment I've ever read. Chat Icon There is no obsession with hugging however, craving human interaction and a desire to be near or even touch others is not weird, that's normal. I hug friends that I haven't seen in a while, I hug my parents still, I use to kiss people I was friends with on the cheek and shake hands with strangers. ALL normal.

Staying 6ft away from people and wearing a mask isn't normal. Or healthy.



I think the point is, everyone on here is complaining about such insane reasons for wanting to go back to normal. The focus on getting back to normal should be on people getting their jobs back and kids going back to school full time. There are people truly suffering and then there are people complaining about their cruises and Disney being less magical. It sounds absurd and completely out of touch with reality.



But every one of those reasons involves someone's job and livelihood. Whether you want to do that or not, there are millions of people who depend on these industries and on people resuming those activities. The two ideas are tied together.



Ok i get your point but let's be real. Do you really think the people complaining they can't book their cruise or Disney/ European vacation main concern is how their vacation is helping those employees? No, their main concern is enjoying their vacation. If they were so concerned then they would wear their masks while walking around Disney World and wouldn't haven't a problem quarantining when they got back from their vacation.
.



Why do you care if someone wants to vacation, Karen? Or if someone hates masks. Or if someone wants a normal life back? Get over yourself. Chat Icon

FTR, I actually have a few friends who are travel agents and they have been severely impacted by this pandemic.



The pandemic didn't put travel agents out of business. The internet did.

The person who abides by CDC guidelines without complaining and shows concern for others isn't the Karen.

The person whining about Disney and rolling their eyes at the person who realizes the world doesn't revolve around them is the Karen.

Posted 9/8/20 7:31 PM
 

Hofstra26
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Re: When will we go back to "the old normal"?

Posted by LuckyStar

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by RainyDay

Posted by Pomegranate5

Posted by LuckyStar

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by LuckyStar

You cannot choose to go back to normal during a pandemic. The pandemic chooses for you. If there's another outbreak, everything will shut down again. More people could get sick and the economy could further suffer because of your kid's party or you not having to wear a mask at Disney (which takes the cake, IMO).

Also, this obsession some of you have with hugging people is super creepy. I hug my kid and my DH. Do you normally hug strangers? Bizarre.



I think what we're seeing is people settling into this "new normal" and becoming okay with a life that is limited in both social interactions and human experiences.

As for masks, they are a temporary solution to a problem which is hopefully short term. I am sure most people, including myself, have no desire for masks to be some new way of life permanently.

Hugging is creepy? That is literally the strangest comment I've ever read. Chat Icon There is no obsession with hugging however, craving human interaction and a desire to be near or even touch others is not weird, that's normal. I hug friends that I haven't seen in a while, I hug my parents still, I use to kiss people I was friends with on the cheek and shake hands with strangers. ALL normal.

Staying 6ft away from people and wearing a mask isn't normal. Or healthy.



I think the point is, everyone on here is complaining about such insane reasons for wanting to go back to normal. The focus on getting back to normal should be on people getting their jobs back and kids going back to school full time. There are people truly suffering and then there are people complaining about their cruises and Disney being less magical. It sounds absurd and completely out of touch with reality.



But every one of those reasons involves someone's job and livelihood. Whether you want to do that or not, there are millions of people who depend on these industries and on people resuming those activities. The two ideas are tied together.



Ok i get your point but let's be real. Do you really think the people complaining they can't book their cruise or Disney/ European vacation main concern is how their vacation is helping those employees? No, their main concern is enjoying their vacation. If they were so concerned then they would wear their masks while walking around Disney World and wouldn't haven't a problem quarantining when they got back from their vacation.
.



Why do you care if someone wants to vacation, Karen? Or if someone hates masks. Or if someone wants a normal life back? Get over yourself. Chat Icon

FTR, I actually have a few friends who are travel agents and they have been severely impacted by this pandemic.



The pandemic didn't put travel agents out of business. The internet did.

The person who abides by CDC guidelines without complaining and shows concern for others isn't the Karen.

The person whining about Disney and rolling their eyes at the person who realizes the world doesn't revolve around them is the Karen.



Where did you read anywhere in this thread that people aren't abiding by guidelines? Hating this situation and wanting your old life back doesn't mean you aren't still doing the right thing. This attitude of superiority from some because they've settled into this new normal is nauseating. You aren't better than anyone because you've embraced your mask and don't care about ever vacationing again.


Also, I'll be sure to pass along your assessment of travel agents to all the travel agents that I know who were doing great business prior to COVID. Chat Icon

Posted 9/8/20 7:54 PM
 

MrsS2005
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Re: When will we go back to "the old normal"?

Posted by LittleDiva

Posted by chilltocam

Posted by LittleDiva

Posted by BFNY516

We could have been gone back to some sense of normal by now had we had a normal administration who encouraged masks and science and didn’t silence the health professionals. Also would have helped to not have a massive amount of dumb people who believed it was a hoax and refused to wear a mask or socially distance. Or governors who entirely dropped the ball and re-opened too quickly and now are the states in red. I saw plenty of geniuses having parties back in April and May calling others sheep. Our country needed everyone to be on the same page and a large percentage failed and continue to fail. 190k are dead and 400k projected dead by January. We are in this position due to selfishness and stupidity. I see people trying to rationalize it as a small percentage of deaths but that means nothing when it’s your loved one.

We won’t be back to any sense of normal until we have a change in leadership and an actual national plan and one cohesive message.



Did we forget the pissing match in the beginning of the pandemic. Remember when governors preached how the federal government can’t dictate what states do blah blah blah. The beginning of the pandemic was a disaster and a power struggle between state and federal. We all lost. And it’s every single person in governments fault...both federal and state. They couldn’t play nice and we all suffered.



There could have been a working “fusion” of both - a president who rallied all Americans to do what was necessary while individual states implemented the actual rules. Instead, we had ZERO federal leadership so the states had no choice but to do whatever they saw as the best course of action. If we had a president who was the least bit inspirational and brought people together, instead of being decisive and denying science, I believe we’d be in a very different place now



We are about to find out if science is right. If schools do the masks and social distancing along with all the other precautions - and no outbreaks ....well science was right. If we do all this and there are outbreaks well looks like science was wrong and maybe trump was on to something. I’m crossing my fingers and hoping (even as a trump supporter) he was wrong and all these things do help. We are screwed if all these ridiculous precautions don’t work and schools can’t stay open, we will never return to normal.


I think more of the outbreaks that will happen are going to be because of close, non-masked contact outside of school. Even if kids follow the rules in school, as long as they’re getting together, especially older ones, outside of school and not observing social distancing/mask wearing, we’re going to have issues. Colleges are certainly more of an issue, but I’m sure parents of teenagers are having a hard time keeping their kids from socializing with others.

Science isn’t wrong. The issue is people ignore science and recommendations. We would get back to normal a lot faster if everyone followed the rules.

Posted 9/9/20 5:50 AM
 

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Re: When will we go back to "the old normal"?

Posted by MrsS2005

Posted by LittleDiva

Posted by chilltocam

Posted by LittleDiva

Posted by BFNY516

We could have been gone back to some sense of normal by now had we had a normal administration who encouraged masks and science and didn’t silence the health professionals. Also would have helped to not have a massive amount of dumb people who believed it was a hoax and refused to wear a mask or socially distance. Or governors who entirely dropped the ball and re-opened too quickly and now are the states in red. I saw plenty of geniuses having parties back in April and May calling others sheep. Our country needed everyone to be on the same page and a large percentage failed and continue to fail. 190k are dead and 400k projected dead by January. We are in this position due to selfishness and stupidity. I see people trying to rationalize it as a small percentage of deaths but that means nothing when it’s your loved one.

We won’t be back to any sense of normal until we have a change in leadership and an actual national plan and one cohesive message.



Did we forget the pissing match in the beginning of the pandemic. Remember when governors preached how the federal government can’t dictate what states do blah blah blah. The beginning of the pandemic was a disaster and a power struggle between state and federal. We all lost. And it’s every single person in governments fault...both federal and state. They couldn’t play nice and we all suffered.



There could have been a working “fusion” of both - a president who rallied all Americans to do what was necessary while individual states implemented the actual rules. Instead, we had ZERO federal leadership so the states had no choice but to do whatever they saw as the best course of action. If we had a president who was the least bit inspirational and brought people together, instead of being decisive and denying science, I believe we’d be in a very different place now



We are about to find out if science is right. If schools do the masks and social distancing along with all the other precautions - and no outbreaks ....well science was right. If we do all this and there are outbreaks well looks like science was wrong and maybe trump was on to something. I’m crossing my fingers and hoping (even as a trump supporter) he was wrong and all these things do help. We are screwed if all these ridiculous precautions don’t work and schools can’t stay open, we will never return to normal.


I think more of the outbreaks that will happen are going to be because of close, non-masked contact outside of school. Even if kids follow the rules in school, as long as they’re getting together, especially older ones, outside of school and not observing social distancing/mask wearing, we’re going to have issues. Colleges are certainly more of an issue, but I’m sure parents of teenagers are having a hard time keeping their kids from socializing with others.

Science isn’t wrong. The issue is people ignore science and recommendations. We would get back to normal a lot faster if everyone followed the rules.



The thing is, these kids have been doing that all summer from what I saw and experienced. It's not as if they all waited for school to start to get together with friends outside of school unmasked.
What were they doing all summer?

Message edited 9/9/2020 6:04:43 AM.

Posted 9/9/20 6:04 AM
 

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Re: When will we go back to "the old normal"?

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by MrsS2005

Posted by LittleDiva

Posted by chilltocam

Posted by LittleDiva

Posted by BFNY516

We could have been gone back to some sense of normal by now had we had a normal administration who encouraged masks and science and didn’t silence the health professionals. Also would have helped to not have a massive amount of dumb people who believed it was a hoax and refused to wear a mask or socially distance. Or governors who entirely dropped the ball and re-opened too quickly and now are the states in red. I saw plenty of geniuses having parties back in April and May calling others sheep. Our country needed everyone to be on the same page and a large percentage failed and continue to fail. 190k are dead and 400k projected dead by January. We are in this position due to selfishness and stupidity. I see people trying to rationalize it as a small percentage of deaths but that means nothing when it’s your loved one.

We won’t be back to any sense of normal until we have a change in leadership and an actual national plan and one cohesive message.



Did we forget the pissing match in the beginning of the pandemic. Remember when governors preached how the federal government can’t dictate what states do blah blah blah. The beginning of the pandemic was a disaster and a power struggle between state and federal. We all lost. And it’s every single person in governments fault...both federal and state. They couldn’t play nice and we all suffered.



There could have been a working “fusion” of both - a president who rallied all Americans to do what was necessary while individual states implemented the actual rules. Instead, we had ZERO federal leadership so the states had no choice but to do whatever they saw as the best course of action. If we had a president who was the least bit inspirational and brought people together, instead of being decisive and denying science, I believe we’d be in a very different place now



We are about to find out if science is right. If schools do the masks and social distancing along with all the other precautions - and no outbreaks ....well science was right. If we do all this and there are outbreaks well looks like science was wrong and maybe trump was on to something. I’m crossing my fingers and hoping (even as a trump supporter) he was wrong and all these things do help. We are screwed if all these ridiculous precautions don’t work and schools can’t stay open, we will never return to normal.


I think more of the outbreaks that will happen are going to be because of close, non-masked contact outside of school. Even if kids follow the rules in school, as long as they’re getting together, especially older ones, outside of school and not observing social distancing/mask wearing, we’re going to have issues. Colleges are certainly more of an issue, but I’m sure parents of teenagers are having a hard time keeping their kids from socializing with others.

Science isn’t wrong. The issue is people ignore science and recommendations. We would get back to normal a lot faster if everyone followed the rules.



The thing is, these kids have been doing that all summer from what I saw and experienced. It's not as if they all waited for school to start to get together with friends outside of school unmasked.
What were they doing all summer?



Yes, some people who have no regard for science have been doing this all summer. However, if they tested positive, it went into the general daily tally and that was that.

Now, those people are going to be going into a building full of other people, many of whom were following science and data. Now, we have to rely on the people who don’t believe in caution to properly wear a mask to prevent the spread of disease in close quarters. So while these outbreaks may have happened over the summer, they didn’t impact a specific group of people, and there was no point in monitoring them so. Now there is. I’m sure there were faculty, staff, and students who tested positive over the summer, but it didn’t matter how many were from one school because they weren’t going to school. Now they are.

Posted 9/9/20 6:41 AM
 

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Re: When will we go back to "the old normal"?

Posted by mommywantsababy

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by MrsS2005

Posted by LittleDiva

Posted by chilltocam

Posted by LittleDiva

Posted by BFNY516

We could have been gone back to some sense of normal by now had we had a normal administration who encouraged masks and science and didn’t silence the health professionals. Also would have helped to not have a massive amount of dumb people who believed it was a hoax and refused to wear a mask or socially distance. Or governors who entirely dropped the ball and re-opened too quickly and now are the states in red. I saw plenty of geniuses having parties back in April and May calling others sheep. Our country needed everyone to be on the same page and a large percentage failed and continue to fail. 190k are dead and 400k projected dead by January. We are in this position due to selfishness and stupidity. I see people trying to rationalize it as a small percentage of deaths but that means nothing when it’s your loved one.

We won’t be back to any sense of normal until we have a change in leadership and an actual national plan and one cohesive message.



Did we forget the pissing match in the beginning of the pandemic. Remember when governors preached how the federal government can’t dictate what states do blah blah blah. The beginning of the pandemic was a disaster and a power struggle between state and federal. We all lost. And it’s every single person in governments fault...both federal and state. They couldn’t play nice and we all suffered.



There could have been a working “fusion” of both - a president who rallied all Americans to do what was necessary while individual states implemented the actual rules. Instead, we had ZERO federal leadership so the states had no choice but to do whatever they saw as the best course of action. If we had a president who was the least bit inspirational and brought people together, instead of being decisive and denying science, I believe we’d be in a very different place now



We are about to find out if science is right. If schools do the masks and social distancing along with all the other precautions - and no outbreaks ....well science was right. If we do all this and there are outbreaks well looks like science was wrong and maybe trump was on to something. I’m crossing my fingers and hoping (even as a trump supporter) he was wrong and all these things do help. We are screwed if all these ridiculous precautions don’t work and schools can’t stay open, we will never return to normal.


I think more of the outbreaks that will happen are going to be because of close, non-masked contact outside of school. Even if kids follow the rules in school, as long as they’re getting together, especially older ones, outside of school and not observing social distancing/mask wearing, we’re going to have issues. Colleges are certainly more of an issue, but I’m sure parents of teenagers are having a hard time keeping their kids from socializing with others.

Science isn’t wrong. The issue is people ignore science and recommendations. We would get back to normal a lot faster if everyone followed the rules.



The thing is, these kids have been doing that all summer from what I saw and experienced. It's not as if they all waited for school to start to get together with friends outside of school unmasked.
What were they doing all summer?



Yes, some people who have no regard for science have been doing this all summer. However, if they tested positive, it went into the general daily tally and that was that.

Now, those people are going to be going into a building full of other people, many of whom were following science and data. Now, we have to rely on the people who don’t believe in caution to properly wear a mask to prevent the spread of disease in close quarters. So while these outbreaks may have happened over the summer, they didn’t impact a specific group of people, and there was no point in monitoring them so. Now there is. I’m sure there were faculty, staff, and students who tested positive over the summer, but it didn’t matter how many were from one school because they weren’t going to school. Now they are.



My point is if all these "science denying" teens that are apparently rampant were running around and hanging out in groups, etc and spreading the virus like wild fire with their science denying teenage ways, where were the spikes in cases all over the state?
The infection rate overall in NY has been below 1%for weeks.
The poster here said that school won't be the issue as everyone will be in masks and following the rules. She said the issue will be them getting together outside of school without proper precautions. So my question was how is any different than what's been going on all summer?

Posted 9/9/20 7:13 AM
 

mommywantsababy
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Re: When will we go back to "the old normal"?

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by mommywantsababy

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by MrsS2005

Posted by LittleDiva

Posted by chilltocam

Posted by LittleDiva

Posted by BFNY516

We could have been gone back to some sense of normal by now had we had a normal administration who encouraged masks and science and didn’t silence the health professionals. Also would have helped to not have a massive amount of dumb people who believed it was a hoax and refused to wear a mask or socially distance. Or governors who entirely dropped the ball and re-opened too quickly and now are the states in red. I saw plenty of geniuses having parties back in April and May calling others sheep. Our country needed everyone to be on the same page and a large percentage failed and continue to fail. 190k are dead and 400k projected dead by January. We are in this position due to selfishness and stupidity. I see people trying to rationalize it as a small percentage of deaths but that means nothing when it’s your loved one.

We won’t be back to any sense of normal until we have a change in leadership and an actual national plan and one cohesive message.



Did we forget the pissing match in the beginning of the pandemic. Remember when governors preached how the federal government can’t dictate what states do blah blah blah. The beginning of the pandemic was a disaster and a power struggle between state and federal. We all lost. And it’s every single person in governments fault...both federal and state. They couldn’t play nice and we all suffered.



There could have been a working “fusion” of both - a president who rallied all Americans to do what was necessary while individual states implemented the actual rules. Instead, we had ZERO federal leadership so the states had no choice but to do whatever they saw as the best course of action. If we had a president who was the least bit inspirational and brought people together, instead of being decisive and denying science, I believe we’d be in a very different place now



We are about to find out if science is right. If schools do the masks and social distancing along with all the other precautions - and no outbreaks ....well science was right. If we do all this and there are outbreaks well looks like science was wrong and maybe trump was on to something. I’m crossing my fingers and hoping (even as a trump supporter) he was wrong and all these things do help. We are screwed if all these ridiculous precautions don’t work and schools can’t stay open, we will never return to normal.


I think more of the outbreaks that will happen are going to be because of close, non-masked contact outside of school. Even if kids follow the rules in school, as long as they’re getting together, especially older ones, outside of school and not observing social distancing/mask wearing, we’re going to have issues. Colleges are certainly more of an issue, but I’m sure parents of teenagers are having a hard time keeping their kids from socializing with others.

Science isn’t wrong. The issue is people ignore science and recommendations. We would get back to normal a lot faster if everyone followed the rules.



The thing is, these kids have been doing that all summer from what I saw and experienced. It's not as if they all waited for school to start to get together with friends outside of school unmasked.
What were they doing all summer?



Yes, some people who have no regard for science have been doing this all summer. However, if they tested positive, it went into the general daily tally and that was that.

Now, those people are going to be going into a building full of other people, many of whom were following science and data. Now, we have to rely on the people who don’t believe in caution to properly wear a mask to prevent the spread of disease in close quarters. So while these outbreaks may have happened over the summer, they didn’t impact a specific group of people, and there was no point in monitoring them so. Now there is. I’m sure there were faculty, staff, and students who tested positive over the summer, but it didn’t matter how many were from one school because they weren’t going to school. Now they are.



My point is if all these "science denying" teens that are apparently rampant were running around and hanging out in groups, etc and spreading the virus like wild fire with their science denying teenage ways, where were the spikes in cases all over the state?
The infection rate overall in NY has been below 1%for weeks.
The poster here said that school won't be the issue as everyone will be in masks and following the rules. She said the issue will be them getting together outside of school without proper precautions. So my question was how is any different than what's been going on all summer?



Because despite the parties and such (which were mostly outdoors anyways), you haven’t had all these kids together in close quarters in a building before now...

Posted 9/9/20 7:43 AM
 

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Re: When will we go back to "the old normal"?

Posted by mommywantsababy

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by mommywantsababy

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by MrsS2005

Posted by LittleDiva

Posted by chilltocam

Posted by LittleDiva

Posted by BFNY516

We could have been gone back to some sense of normal by now had we had a normal administration who encouraged masks and science and didn’t silence the health professionals. Also would have helped to not have a massive amount of dumb people who believed it was a hoax and refused to wear a mask or socially distance. Or governors who entirely dropped the ball and re-opened too quickly and now are the states in red. I saw plenty of geniuses having parties back in April and May calling others sheep. Our country needed everyone to be on the same page and a large percentage failed and continue to fail. 190k are dead and 400k projected dead by January. We are in this position due to selfishness and stupidity. I see people trying to rationalize it as a small percentage of deaths but that means nothing when it’s your loved one.

We won’t be back to any sense of normal until we have a change in leadership and an actual national plan and one cohesive message.



Did we forget the pissing match in the beginning of the pandemic. Remember when governors preached how the federal government can’t dictate what states do blah blah blah. The beginning of the pandemic was a disaster and a power struggle between state and federal. We all lost. And it’s every single person in governments fault...both federal and state. They couldn’t play nice and we all suffered.



There could have been a working “fusion” of both - a president who rallied all Americans to do what was necessary while individual states implemented the actual rules. Instead, we had ZERO federal leadership so the states had no choice but to do whatever they saw as the best course of action. If we had a president who was the least bit inspirational and brought people together, instead of being decisive and denying science, I believe we’d be in a very different place now



We are about to find out if science is right. If schools do the masks and social distancing along with all the other precautions - and no outbreaks ....well science was right. If we do all this and there are outbreaks well looks like science was wrong and maybe trump was on to something. I’m crossing my fingers and hoping (even as a trump supporter) he was wrong and all these things do help. We are screwed if all these ridiculous precautions don’t work and schools can’t stay open, we will never return to normal.


I think more of the outbreaks that will happen are going to be because of close, non-masked contact outside of school. Even if kids follow the rules in school, as long as they’re getting together, especially older ones, outside of school and not observing social distancing/mask wearing, we’re going to have issues. Colleges are certainly more of an issue, but I’m sure parents of teenagers are having a hard time keeping their kids from socializing with others.

Science isn’t wrong. The issue is people ignore science and recommendations. We would get back to normal a lot faster if everyone followed the rules.



The thing is, these kids have been doing that all summer from what I saw and experienced. It's not as if they all waited for school to start to get together with friends outside of school unmasked.
What were they doing all summer?



Yes, some people who have no regard for science have been doing this all summer. However, if they tested positive, it went into the general daily tally and that was that.

Now, those people are going to be going into a building full of other people, many of whom were following science and data. Now, we have to rely on the people who don’t believe in caution to properly wear a mask to prevent the spread of disease in close quarters. So while these outbreaks may have happened over the summer, they didn’t impact a specific group of people, and there was no point in monitoring them so. Now there is. I’m sure there were faculty, staff, and students who tested positive over the summer, but it didn’t matter how many were from one school because they weren’t going to school. Now they are.



My point is if all these "science denying" teens that are apparently rampant were running around and hanging out in groups, etc and spreading the virus like wild fire with their science denying teenage ways, where were the spikes in cases all over the state?
The infection rate overall in NY has been below 1%for weeks.
The poster here said that school won't be the issue as everyone will be in masks and following the rules. She said the issue will be them getting together outside of school without proper precautions. So my question was how is any different than what's been going on all summer?



Because despite the parties and such (which were mostly outdoors anyways), you haven’t had all these kids together in close quarters in a building before now...



Countless amounts of people have been back at work for MONTHS and MONTHS indoors, in close quarters and there were still no spikes. There is nothing to say that kids returning to school in the same capacity as those who returned to work will lead to a spike in cases.

For now, as long as proper protocol is being followed in the schools as it's been done in the workplace it will likely be ok. Many parents have chosen the remote only option as well and in my district, we're in a hybrid only model which has the kids in school just two days a week, for half a day at 50% capacity. I honestly think given those restrictions, we'll be fine all year and my hope is our district opens up more as the year progresses and infection rates continue to be low or decline further.

Message edited 9/9/2020 7:53:33 AM.

Posted 9/9/20 7:52 AM
 

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Re: When will we go back to "the old normal"?

Posted by mommywantsababy

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by mommywantsababy

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by MrsS2005

Posted by LittleDiva

Posted by chilltocam

Posted by LittleDiva

Posted by BFNY516

We could have been gone back to some sense of normal by now had we had a normal administration who encouraged masks and science and didn’t silence the health professionals. Also would have helped to not have a massive amount of dumb people who believed it was a hoax and refused to wear a mask or socially distance. Or governors who entirely dropped the ball and re-opened too quickly and now are the states in red. I saw plenty of geniuses having parties back in April and May calling others sheep. Our country needed everyone to be on the same page and a large percentage failed and continue to fail. 190k are dead and 400k projected dead by January. We are in this position due to selfishness and stupidity. I see people trying to rationalize it as a small percentage of deaths but that means nothing when it’s your loved one.

We won’t be back to any sense of normal until we have a change in leadership and an actual national plan and one cohesive message.



Did we forget the pissing match in the beginning of the pandemic. Remember when governors preached how the federal government can’t dictate what states do blah blah blah. The beginning of the pandemic was a disaster and a power struggle between state and federal. We all lost. And it’s every single person in governments fault...both federal and state. They couldn’t play nice and we all suffered.



There could have been a working “fusion” of both - a president who rallied all Americans to do what was necessary while individual states implemented the actual rules. Instead, we had ZERO federal leadership so the states had no choice but to do whatever they saw as the best course of action. If we had a president who was the least bit inspirational and brought people together, instead of being decisive and denying science, I believe we’d be in a very different place now



We are about to find out if science is right. If schools do the masks and social distancing along with all the other precautions - and no outbreaks ....well science was right. If we do all this and there are outbreaks well looks like science was wrong and maybe trump was on to something. I’m crossing my fingers and hoping (even as a trump supporter) he was wrong and all these things do help. We are screwed if all these ridiculous precautions don’t work and schools can’t stay open, we will never return to normal.


I think more of the outbreaks that will happen are going to be because of close, non-masked contact outside of school. Even if kids follow the rules in school, as long as they’re getting together, especially older ones, outside of school and not observing social distancing/mask wearing, we’re going to have issues. Colleges are certainly more of an issue, but I’m sure parents of teenagers are having a hard time keeping their kids from socializing with others.

Science isn’t wrong. The issue is people ignore science and recommendations. We would get back to normal a lot faster if everyone followed the rules.



The thing is, these kids have been doing that all summer from what I saw and experienced. It's not as if they all waited for school to start to get together with friends outside of school unmasked.
What were they doing all summer?



Yes, some people who have no regard for science have been doing this all summer. However, if they tested positive, it went into the general daily tally and that was that.

Now, those people are going to be going into a building full of other people, many of whom were following science and data. Now, we have to rely on the people who don’t believe in caution to properly wear a mask to prevent the spread of disease in close quarters. So while these outbreaks may have happened over the summer, they didn’t impact a specific group of people, and there was no point in monitoring them so. Now there is. I’m sure there were faculty, staff, and students who tested positive over the summer, but it didn’t matter how many were from one school because they weren’t going to school. Now they are.



My point is if all these "science denying" teens that are apparently rampant were running around and hanging out in groups, etc and spreading the virus like wild fire with their science denying teenage ways, where were the spikes in cases all over the state?
The infection rate overall in NY has been below 1%for weeks.
The poster here said that school won't be the issue as everyone will be in masks and following the rules. She said the issue will be them getting together outside of school without proper precautions. So my question was how is any different than what's been going on all summer?



Because despite the parties and such (which were mostly outdoors anyways), you haven’t had all these kids together in close quarters in a building before now...



Again..... the poster I was responding to said that school is not the issue due to all the precautions in the building. Masks are proven to work.
She was talking about gatherings outside of school being the issue.
That is what I was referring to. This quote...
"Even if kids follow the rules in school, as long as they’re getting together, especially older ones, outside of school and not observing social distancing/mask wearing, we’re going to have issues"

Message edited 9/9/2020 7:55:33 AM.

Posted 9/9/20 7:54 AM
 

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None of these college kids are even that sick - there have been zero hospitalizations and most have no or cold like symptoms, they were just tested as they were exposed to a few individuals who have had pneumonia like symptoms.

I do believe in the science - and the science says the majority of us are going to get it, the virus isn't going away.

We flattened the curve, our kids should be able to go to school full time. It's day 2 and we are asynchronous. I got up at 6am to work since I know I'm going to be swamped with school work.

Posted 9/9/20 8:10 AM
 

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Re: When will we go back to "the old normal"?

Posted by ali120206

None of these college kids are even that sick - there have been zero hospitalizations and most have no or cold like symptoms, they were just tested as they were exposed to a few individuals who have had pneumonia like symptoms.

I do believe in the science - and the science says the majority of us are going to get it, the virus isn't going away.

We flattened the curve, our kids should be able to go to school full time. It's day 2 and we are asynchronous. I got up at 6am to work since I know I'm going to be swamped with school work.



Remote learning sucks, I especially feel for working parents who have to juggle school with their jobs. It's a full time job as it is keeping kids on task all day with remote learning.

We have just two in person (half) days and the rest remote. I am praying that infection rates stay low and even decrease so that they will open up more in person learning.

I agree with you, we're not escaping this virus and we're going to have to learn to live with it like we do the flu, pneumonia or a cold. We don't go through life avoiding work, school, stores and people and also wearing a mask to avoid getting sick from other viruses, at some point we're going to have to get back to a normal way of life despite COVID as well. This is getting ridiculous as this point.

Posted 9/9/20 8:18 AM
 

NervousNell
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Re: When will we go back to "the old normal"?

Posted by ali120206

None of these college kids are even that sick - there have been zero hospitalizations and most have no or cold like symptoms, they were just tested as they were exposed to a few individuals who have had pneumonia like symptoms.

I do believe in the science - and the science says the majority of us are going to get it, the virus isn't going away.

We flattened the curve, our kids should be able to go to school full time. It's day 2 and we are asynchronous. I got up at 6am to work since I know I'm going to be swamped with school work.



Nobody wants to hear that though.
The real numbers to be looking at are hospitalizations and deaths- not positive cases.

Posted 9/9/20 8:27 AM
 

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