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SweetestOfPeas
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Re: Why do you think NYPD makes less than White Plains, Long Island etc?
what I don't understand is how anyone can live in NY while making $25k a year - at ANY job.
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Re: Why do you think NYPD makes less than White Plains, Long Island etc?
Posted by jellybean1420
I think also b/c the Mayor ***** and always cries poverty. A couple of months ago he said the city had a surplus, and now that it is coming time for the NYPD to settle their contract all of a sudden they are in deficit 
Typical management tactic. I think it's the oldest one in the book!!!
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| Posted 12/7/07 6:37 AM |
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rose825
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Re: Why do you think NYPD makes less than White Plains, Long Island etc?
Posted by 04bride
Posted by Ophelia
Posted by 04bride
Posted by Ophelia
less taxes.
bigger police force.
more to pay with less funds.
people in suburban mostly affluent areas pay more taxes.
people in NYC would flip if their taxes were $7000 a year. not only that, they couldn't afford it.
on the flip side. a lot of places with a higher paid police force have volunteer fire depts.
ETA: I didn't see CathyB's post. so what she said too.
who couldnt afford it?
the people that live in NYC.
i dont mean to start a riot here but i think that is an unfair statement to make that people in queens cant afford taxes. Some people might like living in queens. In some places near me in douglaston, bayside, little neck the houses are multi million dollar houses and the taxes are not that far behind that of a smaller house on LI. my landlord pays almost 6000 in taxes for 2 family in douglaston and my friend pays 5000 for a 1/3 of an acre in suffolk.
I am a queens girl and I think you are overreacting. The places you named are exceptions. I agree that MOST people living in NYC, especially most of Queens , would have some difficulty if there taxes went significantly up (just like nassau residents would have trouble if all the sudden their taxes went up higher). In NYC we pay more for our houses because taxes are less. Nowadays most people live where they can afford to, not where they can afford to live and have extra money on hand in case taxes go up.
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| Posted 12/7/07 6:49 AM |
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MissJones
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Re: Why do you think NYPD makes less than White Plains, Long Island etc?
Posted by 04bride
Posted by Ophelia
Posted by 04bride
Posted by Ophelia
less taxes.
bigger police force.
more to pay with less funds.
people in suburban mostly affluent areas pay more taxes.
people in NYC would flip if their taxes were $7000 a year. not only that, they couldn't afford it.
on the flip side. a lot of places with a higher paid police force have volunteer fire depts.
ETA: I didn't see CathyB's post. so what she said too.
who couldnt afford it?
the people that live in NYC.
i dont mean to start a riot here but i think that is an unfair statement to make that people in queens cant afford taxes. Some people might like living in queens. In some places near me in douglaston, bayside, little neck the houses are multi million dollar houses and the taxes are not that far behind that of a smaller house on LI. my landlord pays almost 6000 in taxes for 2 family in douglaston and my friend pays 5000 for a 1/3 of an acre in suffolk.
Yes, but take that multi million dollar house and put it in Hunt. Harbor or Eatons Neck or Setauket and you have taxes of $35,000. That's $500 a month vs. $3,000 a month just for taxes. Take an old couple who bought that house and are now retired. They couldn't afford that house if they had to pay that much in taxes. That's what makes NYC living more appealing. People can afford more home b/c they don't have to shell out another $1200 a month for taxes.
I completely understand where you are coming from, but I see the other posters point too. In all honesty, we'd totally buy a house in Queens because of the taxes. A house in Queens could have taxes of $2000 a year (and that's high). That same house on LI could have taxes of $12,000 a year. So yeah, that extra $10,000 a year makes a big difference in whether or not someone buys.
I don't think she was saying that people in NYC are poor because that would be a huge and rather distasteful generalization, but rather that in NYC, the lower taxes provide greater opportunities and if they paralleled LI, yes, a lot of people would be shut out of ownership. I know if my taxes went up to to paraellel LI taxes, we would have to go back to renting.
Sorry if I'm preaching to the choir.
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Ophelia
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Re: Why do you think NYPD makes less than White Plains, Long Island etc?
Posted by 04bride
Posted by Ophelia
Posted by 04bride
Posted by Ophelia
less taxes.
bigger police force.
more to pay with less funds.
people in suburban mostly affluent areas pay more taxes.
people in NYC would flip if their taxes were $7000 a year. not only that, they couldn't afford it.
on the flip side. a lot of places with a higher paid police force have volunteer fire depts.
ETA: I didn't see CathyB's post. so what she said too.
who couldnt afford it?
the people that live in NYC.
i dont mean to start a riot here but i think that is an unfair statement to make that people in queens cant afford taxes. Some people might like living in queens. In some places near me in douglaston, bayside, little neck the houses are multi million dollar houses and the taxes are not that far behind that of a smaller house on LI. my landlord pays almost 6000 in taxes for 2 family in douglaston and my friend pays 5000 for a 1/3 of an acre in suffolk.
I am struggling to find your point in this.
do you think I insulted people that live in the city? I live in the city and I have my entire life.
In fact, I grew up in a BIG brownstone, in Park Slope, with a back yard, front yard, bbq, patio and swimming pool.
my family would NOT have been able to afford LI taxes on this house.
especially b/c not only do we pay property tax but we ALSO pay CITY income tax.
and the general cost of living is higher than it is in LI.
I am literally  at my desk that you came to the rescue of Queens dwellers.
my comment was not to insinuate that people who opt in the city can't afford LI.
I can, I just find it ghastly that the taxes are so high. and I think that people are out of their effing minds charging that much tax.
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| Posted 12/7/07 10:14 AM |
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04bride
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Re: Why do you think NYPD makes less than White Plains, Long Island etc?
Posted by Ophelia
Posted by 04bride
Posted by Ophelia
Posted by 04bride
Posted by Ophelia
less taxes.
bigger police force.
more to pay with less funds.
people in suburban mostly affluent areas pay more taxes.
people in NYC would flip if their taxes were $7000 a year. not only that, they couldn't afford it.
on the flip side. a lot of places with a higher paid police force have volunteer fire depts.
ETA: I didn't see CathyB's post. so what she said too.
who couldnt afford it?
the people that live in NYC.
i dont mean to start a riot here but i think that is an unfair statement to make that people in queens cant afford taxes. Some people might like living in queens. In some places near me in douglaston, bayside, little neck the houses are multi million dollar houses and the taxes are not that far behind that of a smaller house on LI. my landlord pays almost 6000 in taxes for 2 family in douglaston and my friend pays 5000 for a 1/3 of an acre in suffolk.
I am struggling to find your point in this.
do you think I insulted people that live in the city? I live in the city and I have my entire life.
In fact, I grew up in a BIG brownstone, in Park Slope, with a back yard, front yard, bbq, patio and swimming pool.
my family would NOT have been able to afford LI taxes on this house.
especially b/c not only do we pay property tax but we ALSO pay CITY income tax.
and the general cost of living is higher than it is in LI.
I am literally at my desk that you came to the rescue of Queens dwellers.
my comment was not to insinuate that people who opt in the city can't afford LI.
I can, I just find it ghastly that the taxes are so high. and I think that people are out of their effing minds charging that much tax.
why do you find it huysterical that i came to the "rescue ' of Queens dwellers?
If I misunderstood then I apoligize but, what is so funny about me speaking my mind?
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Re: Why do you think NYPD makes less than White Plains, Long Island etc?
im confused bc i dont see ophelia mention queens at all???
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| Posted 12/7/07 10:19 AM |
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Ophelia
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Re: Why do you think NYPD makes less than White Plains, Long Island etc?
Posted by 04bride
why do you find it huysterical that i came to the "rescue ' of Queens dwellers?
If I misunderstood then I apoligize but, what is so funny about me speaking my mind?
I am laughing b/c I am extremely pro brooklyn and pro NYC, so I thinks its funny in that respect.
not laughing at YOU, but at the idea.
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| Posted 12/7/07 10:22 AM |
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04bride
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Re: Why do you think NYPD makes less than White Plains, Long Island etc?
"people in NYC would flip if their taxes were $7000 a year. not only that, they couldn't afford it."
She mentioned NYC I used Queens as an example bc I am aware of the areas where houses are $$$$ and taxes are not so cheap either.Queens is part of NYC to me.
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Ophelia
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Re: Why do you think NYPD makes less than White Plains, Long Island etc?
Posted by 04bride
"people in NYC would flip if their taxes were $7000 a year. not only that, they couldn't afford it."
She mentioned NYC I used Queens as an example bc I am aware of the areas where houses are $$$$ and taxes are not so cheap either.Queens is part of NYC to me.
Queens is part of NYC to the city govt too.
and I am sure you are aware, that while many people with money live in NYC, there is a freater number of people without, and they are finding it harder and harder to make ends meet.
the LAST thing they need is landlords raising rents b/c of higher taxes.
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| Posted 12/7/07 10:25 AM |
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Re: Why do you think NYPD makes less than White Plains, Long Island etc?
raises hand
"queens dweller here" 
i think dweller MIGHT be the word of the day
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| Posted 12/7/07 10:32 AM |
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photoshopbabe
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Re: Why do you think NYPD makes less than White Plains, Long Island etc?
Posted by 04bride
"people in NYC would flip if their taxes were $7000 a year. not only that, they couldn't afford it."
She mentioned NYC I used Queens as an example bc I am aware of the areas where houses are $$$$ and taxes are not so cheap either.Queens is part of NYC to me.
ohh okay-i thought she had mentiond queens-but i didnt see it anywhere.
is it weird i dont consider queens the "city"?
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| Posted 12/7/07 10:54 AM |
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04bride
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Re: Why do you think NYPD makes less than White Plains, Long Island etc?
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Posted by 04bride
"people in NYC would flip if their taxes were $7000 a year. not only that, they couldn't afford it."
She mentioned NYC I used Queens as an example bc I am aware of the areas where houses are $$$$ and taxes are not so cheap either.Queens is part of NYC to me.
ohh okay-i thought she had mentiond queens-but i didnt see it anywhere.
is it weird i dont consider queens the "city"?
i know what you mean. Normally when someone says i am going into te ecity i take it to mean manhattan but in this post when she said NYC i took it to mean all 5 bouroughs.
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| Posted 12/7/07 11:00 AM |
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Kristin616
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Re: Why do you think NYPD makes less than White Plains, Long Island etc?
Posted by CathyB
Just guessing, but they have over 30,000 officers and NYC property taxes are substantially less than out here, so I guess there just isn't a large enough pool of money to pay them more plus supply all the gear they need to do their job - the patrol cars, gas, maintenance, utility bills for all the precincts, the list goes on and on.
that's exactly way!
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| Posted 12/8/07 11:07 AM |
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Re: Why do you think NYPD makes less than White Plains, Long Island etc?
It is totally unfair! 
(but they get uniform allowance - taxed of course)
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| Posted 12/8/07 11:28 AM |
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SupportACop
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Re: Why do you think NYPD makes less than White Plains, Long Island etc?
I know! DH worked in Brooklyn before coming out to Nassau.
Here are my reasons for NYPD paying next to nothing....
NYPD hires twice per year, average class is 1-1,500 recruits, so each year at leat 2,000 people go through the training.
Nassau hired 2 times in the past 10 years and each class was only 100 recruits.
Nassau also pays for all gear and jackets and stuff needed, when DH was with NYPD he had to pay out of his pocket for everything
NYPD my hubby was in the 73rd precinct which only a few years ago had one of the highest murder rate in the nation.
He is now on Nassua and although not in the best of neighborhoods he is "safe" as he can be anyway better than where he was...
I agree with you on the pay for NYPD officers, we have many friends on NYPD and they tease DH for coming to Nassau but I am happy and hope all will find jobs where they will be safe and happy.
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| Posted 12/8/07 11:35 AM |
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LMFitz
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Re: Why do you think NYPD makes less than White Plains, Long Island etc?
Posted by SweetestOfPeas
what I don't understand is how anyone can live in NY while making $25k a year - at ANY job.
Partially explains why they are actually accpeting recruits who have some degree of a police record! Many simply can't live on what they offer - so they are forced to lower their standards.
DH is a State Trooper. The background check he had to undergo was rigorous - he had to justify any slight blemish on his record, including things as common as a speeding ticket, or the specifics of a no-fault car accident he was in (let alone what they allow into the NYPD force).
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Deedlebugs
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Re: Why do you think NYPD makes less than White Plains, Long Island etc?
This is why DH became a Nassau Cop
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| Posted 12/8/07 12:56 PM |
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beautyq115
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Re: Why do you think NYPD makes less than White Plains, Long Island etc?
It really is disgusting that they make so little!
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| Posted 12/8/07 12:57 PM |
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MrsKelly
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Re: Why do you think NYPD makes less than White Plains, Long Island etc?
Posted by LMFitz
Partially explains why they are actually accpeting recruits who have some degree of a police record! Many simply can't live on what they offer - so they are forced to lower their standards.
partially explains?! they don't hire people with "some" degree of a police record... they are blatently into hiring people that BELONG in jail, at this point. not to mention the standards to pass the academy have decreased dramatically. it's scary what is coming on the force at this point and to be honest, i'd rather most of them didn't show up, if i were to call for help. the city doesn't give a rats azz about the police, which is why the good of our department is not even recognized... they are so worried about their recruitment problem - forget about the money for a second, who wants a job where we get slammed every week and ripped to shreds, where everything we do is under a microscope and the people they are hiring to be our coworkers are the people we should be throwing handcuffs on? it's sick. and they wonder why people are leaving the job left and right, not only for other police departments - but for anything that wouldn't put them at poverty's doorstep.
the reason they can't pay us what they pay suffolk, nassau etc is because of how many cops are in the force. suffolk has a couple thousand, nypd has 30 thousand. plaain and simple. but if they want city cops to work, bring crime down etc - maybe they should at least TRY to give us something to work for. i understand i will never be making 106 grand for twiddling my thumbs, but hey 75 grand would be nice.
and to correct the comment about uniform allowance... we do get an allowance, once a year of 1,000 dollars - however it is added into one of our regular paychecks and they tax the crap out of it. to be honest, i will wear my uniforms until they are in shreds falling off of my body, i need to use that money for xmas presents each year. i find it ironic because they are really on us right now for the quality of our uniforms, how we look etc - but maybe if they did take the initiative to supply us with new boots, shirts, pants etc - maybe our boots wouldn't be past the point of being able to shine, and our uniforms wouldn't be faded. they want us to look professional, help us look the part - or at least raise our salary so maybe it wouldn't hurt our wallets so much to buy new uniforms each year. oh and not to mention when you enter the academy you have to fork over a check for like 3grand to purchase all of your equipment
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JenniferEver
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Re: Why do you think NYPD makes less than White Plains, Long Island etc?
Our property taxes are very low. and we have a LOT of cops and other civil employees. We have the same problems with teachers..why stay in NY when you can make a lot more in LI?
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