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LittleDiva
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Re: Unmask the children rally
Posted by Christine2
I'd seriously consider vaccinating my children simply due to all the anti-vaxxers out there. Adults unwilling to "follow the science" are putting children at risk. My physician, pediatrician and dentist have all recommended it. Children may not get as seriously ill, but this virus has detrimentally affected their quality of life.
Just watch - Cuomo has implemented this mandate as he is pushing the vaccine for kids. IMO, as much as I cannot stand the man, he is right to do it. We cannot protect our kids if the adults do not get vaccinated.
I’m tired of the “anti vaxxers” being blamed. You should also be concerned with those who are at 6+ months and have zero intentions of getting a booster or another round of shots. You should be concerned with those who got J&j. I’m not anti-vax in any way.....I’m not ready to get this vaccine until it’s been out for a while. What are we protecting kids from?!?! Have you seen the recent numbers for children?? The minuscule number of children who end up hospitalized?! Just say you want your children vaccinated so go pointing fingers.
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Re: Unmask the children rally
Posted by LittleDiva
Posted by Christine2
I'd seriously consider vaccinating my children simply due to all the anti-vaxxers out there. Adults unwilling to "follow the science" are putting children at risk. My physician, pediatrician and dentist have all recommended it. Children may not get as seriously ill, but this virus has detrimentally affected their quality of life.
Just watch - Cuomo has implemented this mandate as he is pushing the vaccine for kids. IMO, as much as I cannot stand the man, he is right to do it. We cannot protect our kids if the adults do not get vaccinated.
I’m tired of the “anti vaxxers” being blamed. You should also be concerned with those who are at 6+ months and have zero intentions of getting a booster or another round of shots. You should be concerned with those who got J&j. I’m not anti-vax in any way.....I’m not ready to get this vaccine until it’s been out for a while. What are we protecting kids from?!?! Have you seen the recent numbers for children?? The minuscule number of children who end up hospitalized?! Just say you want your children vaccinated so go pointing fingers.
Many more children have died of the flu this year than Covid. Make sure you get your kids their flu shots.... that to me is more important for that age group
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Re: Unmask the children rally
Posted by LittleDiva
Posted by Christine2
I'd seriously consider vaccinating my children simply due to all the anti-vaxxers out there. Adults unwilling to "follow the science" are putting children at risk. My physician, pediatrician and dentist have all recommended it. Children may not get as seriously ill, but this virus has detrimentally affected their quality of life.
Just watch - Cuomo has implemented this mandate as he is pushing the vaccine for kids. IMO, as much as I cannot stand the man, he is right to do it. We cannot protect our kids if the adults do not get vaccinated.
I’m tired of the “anti vaxxers” being blamed. You should also be concerned with those who are at 6+ months and have zero intentions of getting a booster or another round of shots. You should be concerned with those who got J&j. I’m not anti-vax in any way.....I’m not ready to get this vaccine until it’s been out for a while. What are we protecting kids from?!?! Have you seen the recent numbers for children?? The minuscule number of children who end up hospitalized?! Just say you want your children vaccinated so go pointing fingers.
Modern medical science created the vaccine. It did not appear out of thin air. They did not create this in a back-alley meth lab. The science that created the vaccine is not new. This is the kind of distinction that people fail to make when they throw around "it's too new."
What pray tell is too new about the science?
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| Posted 5/23/21 3:01 PM |
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Re: Unmask the children rally
Posted by mrsrainbow
Posted by LittleDiva
Posted by Christine2
I'd seriously consider vaccinating my children simply due to all the anti-vaxxers out there. Adults unwilling to "follow the science" are putting children at risk. My physician, pediatrician and dentist have all recommended it. Children may not get as seriously ill, but this virus has detrimentally affected their quality of life.
Just watch - Cuomo has implemented this mandate as he is pushing the vaccine for kids. IMO, as much as I cannot stand the man, he is right to do it. We cannot protect our kids if the adults do not get vaccinated.
I’m tired of the “anti vaxxers” being blamed. You should also be concerned with those who are at 6+ months and have zero intentions of getting a booster or another round of shots. You should be concerned with those who got J&j. I’m not anti-vax in any way.....I’m not ready to get this vaccine until it’s been out for a while. What are we protecting kids from?!?! Have you seen the recent numbers for children?? The minuscule number of children who end up hospitalized?! Just say you want your children vaccinated so go pointing fingers.
Modern medical science created the vaccine. It did not appear out of thin air. They did not create this in a back-alley meth lab. The science that created the vaccine is not new. This is the kind of distinction that people fail to make when they throw around "it's too new."
What pray tell is too new about the science?
I "think" is what people mean by being new, is that many vaccines take years of trials and studies before it can be approved. This one did not. That is my guess.
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| Posted 5/23/21 3:04 PM |
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mrsrainbow
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Re: Unmask the children rally
Posted by Diane
Posted by mrsrainbow
Posted by LittleDiva
Posted by Christine2
I'd seriously consider vaccinating my children simply due to all the anti-vaxxers out there. Adults unwilling to "follow the science" are putting children at risk. My physician, pediatrician and dentist have all recommended it. Children may not get as seriously ill, but this virus has detrimentally affected their quality of life.
Just watch - Cuomo has implemented this mandate as he is pushing the vaccine for kids. IMO, as much as I cannot stand the man, he is right to do it. We cannot protect our kids if the adults do not get vaccinated.
I’m tired of the “anti vaxxers” being blamed. You should also be concerned with those who are at 6+ months and have zero intentions of getting a booster or another round of shots. You should be concerned with those who got J&j. I’m not anti-vax in any way.....I’m not ready to get this vaccine until it’s been out for a while. What are we protecting kids from?!?! Have you seen the recent numbers for children?? The minuscule number of children who end up hospitalized?! Just say you want your children vaccinated so go pointing fingers.
Modern medical science created the vaccine. It did not appear out of thin air. They did not create this in a back-alley meth lab. The science that created the vaccine is not new. This is the kind of distinction that people fail to make when they throw around "it's too new."
What pray tell is too new about the science?
I "think" is what people mean by being new, is that many vaccines take years of trials and studies before it can be approved. This one did not. That is my guess.
and to those people I would say, that's not how this works.
https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/is-the-covid19-vaccine-safe
For those who won't click and presume to know what section of the article I am referring to:
How was the COVID-19 vaccine developed so quickly?
In the past, vaccines have taken many years to develop. However, the relatively quick development of this vaccine does not mean safety measures were skipped. There are several reasons why the COVID-19 vaccines were developed faster than other vaccines:
The technologies used to develop the COVID-19 vaccines have been years in development to prepare for outbreaks of infectious viruses. The manufacturing processes were ready very early in the pandemic.
Countries shared genetic information about the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus when it was available, which gave vaccine developers an early start at finding a vaccine.
The testing processes for the vaccines didn’t skip any steps, but the vaccine developers conducted some stages of the process simultaneously to gather as much data as quickly as possible.
Governments gave money to vaccine developers in advance, so the companies had resources they needed.
Some types of COVID-19 vaccines were created using messenger RNA (mRNA), a new technology that allows a faster approach than the traditional way vaccines are made.
Social media enabled companies to reach out to and enroll study volunteers, and plenty of people wanted to help, so there were enough research participants to test the COVID-19 vaccines.
Because the SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus is so contagious and widespread, many volunteers who got the vaccine were exposed to the virus, and with so many exposures, the trials took a shorter time to see if the vaccine worked.
Companies began manufacturing vaccines ahead of their authorization or approval so some supplies would be ready if authorization occurred.
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JennP
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Re: Unmask the children rally
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Posted by RainyDay
Posted by JennP
I admit that I wish people would get the vaccine. Science shows that is how we get out of this.
However, I understand that berating people into doing something is not really going to get anyone anywhere, so I don't say much about it and hope for the best.
I will say that if people decide not to, I hope the decision is based on facts and not because they are stuck in some nutty right wing media windtunnel. For example, that reuters article posted is literally line after line about how there doesn't seem to actually be anything to worry about. Now, if my child had heart problems or something, sure I would consult his cardiologist, ped, etc. and go with what they suggest. For that matter, for anyone who is that concerned, let them consult their doctor just like people do for any other medical procedure.
Anti maskers who talk about fearmongering are awfully fearful of a vaccine, IMO.
What pisses me off much more than any of that is people who are abusing the honor system and going maskless even though they are unvaccinated. At least two people on here seem to be doing that, unless they got vaccinated in the meantime or something. But if they didn't, those people are assholes. If you don't want to get the vaccine fine but then comply with the rules posted in public places to protect people who cannot get the vaccine due to age or another issue.
I tend to lean pretty far left and as of right now I refuse to get the vaccine. Let's not make this a political issue. At this point why are you so concerned about those who are unvaccinated? If we follow the science, those who are vaccinated have nothing to worry about. 
And these statements about those who are still unvaccinated are not wearing masks is a bunch of BS. Noone in my family or extended family that have yet to be vaccinated have stopped wearing masks. Please stop with the fear mongering
Unvaccinated should be wearing masks as children can not yet get the vaccine. I’m vaccinated and wear a mask because I usually have my son with me and he still needs to wear a mask.
This exactly.
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JennP
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Re: Unmask the children rally
Posted by Naturalmama
Posted by RainyDay
Posted by JennP
I admit that I wish people would get the vaccine. Science shows that is how we get out of this.
However, I understand that berating people into doing something is not really going to get anyone anywhere, so I don't say much about it and hope for the best.
I will say that if people decide not to, I hope the decision is based on facts and not because they are stuck in some nutty right wing media windtunnel. For example, that reuters article posted is literally line after line about how there doesn't seem to actually be anything to worry about. Now, if my child had heart problems or something, sure I would consult his cardiologist, ped, etc. and go with what they suggest. For that matter, for anyone who is that concerned, let them consult their doctor just like people do for any other medical procedure.
Anti maskers who talk about fearmongering are awfully fearful of a vaccine, IMO.
What pisses me off much more than any of that is people who are abusing the honor system and going maskless even though they are unvaccinated. At least two people on here seem to be doing that, unless they got vaccinated in the meantime or something. But if they didn't, those people are assholes. If you don't want to get the vaccine fine but then comply with the rules posted in public places to protect people who cannot get the vaccine due to age or another issue.
I tend to lean pretty far left and as of right now I refuse to get the vaccine. Let's not make this a political issue. At this point why are you so concerned about those who are unvaccinated? If we follow the science, those who are vaccinated have nothing to worry about.
And these statements about those who are still unvaccinated are not wearing masks is a bunch of BS. Noone in my family or extended family that have yet to be vaccinated have stopped wearing masks. Please stop with the fear mongering
I could be wrong, but I think she was referring to people on here who openly state they ditched the masks even though they are not vaccinated.
I am not afraid of the unvaccinated, like you said, I am protected so I don't care for myself. But I am very worried about this thing resurging. I have severe PTSD from last year, so I may just overthink it more than others lol.
Yes, thank you. That is what I meant.
I don't recall the thread (it might not be this one) but it's been said several times.
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| Posted 5/23/21 3:28 PM |
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Re: Unmask the children rally
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by KarenK122
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by Naturalmama
Posted by RainyDay
Posted by JennP
I admit that I wish people would get the vaccine. Science shows that is how we get out of this.
However, I understand that berating people into doing something is not really going to get anyone anywhere, so I don't say much about it and hope for the best.
I will say that if people decide not to, I hope the decision is based on facts and not because they are stuck in some nutty right wing media windtunnel. For example, that reuters article posted is literally line after line about how there doesn't seem to actually be anything to worry about. Now, if my child had heart problems or something, sure I would consult his cardiologist, ped, etc. and go with what they suggest. For that matter, for anyone who is that concerned, let them consult their doctor just like people do for any other medical procedure.
Anti maskers who talk about fearmongering are awfully fearful of a vaccine, IMO.
What pisses me off much more than any of that is people who are abusing the honor system and going maskless even though they are unvaccinated. At least two people on here seem to be doing that, unless they got vaccinated in the meantime or something. But if they didn't, those people are assholes. If you don't want to get the vaccine fine but then comply with the rules posted in public places to protect people who cannot get the vaccine due to age or another issue.
I tend to lean pretty far left and as of right now I refuse to get the vaccine. Let's not make this a political issue. At this point why are you so concerned about those who are unvaccinated? If we follow the science, those who are vaccinated have nothing to worry about.
And these statements about those who are still unvaccinated are not wearing masks is a bunch of BS. Noone in my family or extended family that have yet to be vaccinated have stopped wearing masks. Please stop with the fear mongering
I could be wrong, but I think she was referring to people on here who openly state they ditched the masks even though they are not vaccinated.
I am not afraid of the unvaccinated, like you said, I am protected so I don't care for myself. But I am very worried about this thing resurging. I have severe PTSD from last year, so I may just overthink it more than others lol.
I'm trying to scan through the threads, but they are long. But I don't recall anyone on here saying they ditched their masks and aren't vaccinated.
I know people were listing places that were no questions asked but I didn't see anyone here say they went maskless in those places.
But I could have missed it
I said it. I know at least 15 families and I'm sure there are many more in my area that are not getting the vaccine and ditched their masks for their entire family as soon as the mandate was changed. They are against masks and the vaccine. Personally, I don't care as I am vaccinated and next week both of my children will be.
Ok, I just thought they meant members on here saying they personally were doing it
There are. At least a couple. It might have been said in another thread. But at least two people who have been vocal about not getting vaccinated have stated they are ditching the masks.
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JennP
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Re: Unmask the children rally
Posted by RainyDay
Posted by JennP
I admit that I wish people would get the vaccine. Science shows that is how we get out of this.
However, I understand that berating people into doing something is not really going to get anyone anywhere, so I don't say much about it and hope for the best.
I will say that if people decide not to, I hope the decision is based on facts and not because they are stuck in some nutty right wing media windtunnel. For example, that reuters article posted is literally line after line about how there doesn't seem to actually be anything to worry about. Now, if my child had heart problems or something, sure I would consult his cardiologist, ped, etc. and go with what they suggest. For that matter, for anyone who is that concerned, let them consult their doctor just like people do for any other medical procedure.
Anti maskers who talk about fearmongering are awfully fearful of a vaccine, IMO.
What pisses me off much more than any of that is people who are abusing the honor system and going maskless even though they are unvaccinated. At least two people on here seem to be doing that, unless they got vaccinated in the meantime or something. But if they didn't, those people are assholes. If you don't want to get the vaccine fine but then comply with the rules posted in public places to protect people who cannot get the vaccine due to age or another issue.
I tend to lean pretty far left and as of right now I refuse to get the vaccine. Let's not make this a political issue. At this point why are you so concerned about those who are unvaccinated? If we follow the science, those who are vaccinated have nothing to worry about.
And these statements about those who are still unvaccinated are not wearing masks is a bunch of BS. Noone in my family or extended family that have yet to be vaccinated have stopped wearing masks. Please stop with the fear mongering
Most of the points I would make is response have been addressed in other posts but I want to add that just because YOUR family is still masking up, doesn't mean that everyone is doing the right thing. I say this often on here but anecdotes don't really matter. It's about what the larger population is doing. I'm sure many people are doing the right thing but I am also sure many are not based off of peoples' own words. You can't possibly believe that everyone who is maskless is vaccinated, can you?
And I didn't make this political. It's well established that right wing media perpetuates fear mongering about the vaccine. All I was saying that if people choose to skip it I hope it's not based off of mis and disinformation.
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I don’t think many have said on here they are unvaccinated and ditched the masks.
I will tell you though from being around this weekend, there are many that don’t feel like people on this board, vaccinated or unvaccinated.
Places do not ask or require and I have to tell you from what I see, the people unmasked are so much happier, just like they are in other states that are being given a choice.
Let’s see if there are any spikes here soon. Hopefully not so people will see this can work.
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LittleDiva
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Re: Unmask the children rally
Posted by JennP
Posted by RainyDay
Posted by JennP
I admit that I wish people would get the vaccine. Science shows that is how we get out of this.
However, I understand that berating people into doing something is not really going to get anyone anywhere, so I don't say much about it and hope for the best.
I will say that if people decide not to, I hope the decision is based on facts and not because they are stuck in some nutty right wing media windtunnel. For example, that reuters article posted is literally line after line about how there doesn't seem to actually be anything to worry about. Now, if my child had heart problems or something, sure I would consult his cardiologist, ped, etc. and go with what they suggest. For that matter, for anyone who is that concerned, let them consult their doctor just like people do for any other medical procedure.
Anti maskers who talk about fearmongering are awfully fearful of a vaccine, IMO.
What pisses me off much more than any of that is people who are abusing the honor system and going maskless even though they are unvaccinated. At least two people on here seem to be doing that, unless they got vaccinated in the meantime or something. But if they didn't, those people are assholes. If you don't want to get the vaccine fine but then comply with the rules posted in public places to protect people who cannot get the vaccine due to age or another issue.
I tend to lean pretty far left and as of right now I refuse to get the vaccine. Let's not make this a political issue. At this point why are you so concerned about those who are unvaccinated? If we follow the science, those who are vaccinated have nothing to worry about.
And these statements about those who are still unvaccinated are not wearing masks is a bunch of BS. Noone in my family or extended family that have yet to be vaccinated have stopped wearing masks. Please stop with the fear mongering
Most of the points I would make is response have been addressed in other posts but I want to add that just because YOUR family is still masking up, doesn't mean that everyone is doing the right thing. I say this often on here but anecdotes don't really matter. It's about what the larger population is doing. I'm sure many people are doing the right thing but I am also sure many are not based off of peoples' own words. You can't possibly believe that everyone who is maskless is vaccinated, can you?
And I didn't make this political. It's well established that right wing media perpetuates fear mongering about the vaccine. All I was saying that if people choose to skip it I hope it's not based off of mis and disinformation.
Give me a break. The right wing media perpetuates the fear mongering? I keep getting ready to consider it and someone like cuomo instills the fear into me. I just took ten steps backwards once he made the children 2 and up suddenly need to be masked up when they haven’t....you know, the next group of kids eligible for the vaccine. The blanket statements need to stop, the right wing media causing the fear LOL
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Re: Unmask the children rally
Posted by LittleDiva
Posted by JennP
Posted by RainyDay
Posted by JennP
I admit that I wish people would get the vaccine. Science shows that is how we get out of this.
However, I understand that berating people into doing something is not really going to get anyone anywhere, so I don't say much about it and hope for the best.
I will say that if people decide not to, I hope the decision is based on facts and not because they are stuck in some nutty right wing media windtunnel. For example, that reuters article posted is literally line after line about how there doesn't seem to actually be anything to worry about. Now, if my child had heart problems or something, sure I would consult his cardiologist, ped, etc. and go with what they suggest. For that matter, for anyone who is that concerned, let them consult their doctor just like people do for any other medical procedure.
Anti maskers who talk about fearmongering are awfully fearful of a vaccine, IMO.
What pisses me off much more than any of that is people who are abusing the honor system and going maskless even though they are unvaccinated. At least two people on here seem to be doing that, unless they got vaccinated in the meantime or something. But if they didn't, those people are assholes. If you don't want to get the vaccine fine but then comply with the rules posted in public places to protect people who cannot get the vaccine due to age or another issue.
I tend to lean pretty far left and as of right now I refuse to get the vaccine. Let's not make this a political issue. At this point why are you so concerned about those who are unvaccinated? If we follow the science, those who are vaccinated have nothing to worry about.
And these statements about those who are still unvaccinated are not wearing masks is a bunch of BS. Noone in my family or extended family that have yet to be vaccinated have stopped wearing masks. Please stop with the fear mongering
Most of the points I would make is response have been addressed in other posts but I want to add that just because YOUR family is still masking up, doesn't mean that everyone is doing the right thing. I say this often on here but anecdotes don't really matter. It's about what the larger population is doing. I'm sure many people are doing the right thing but I am also sure many are not based off of peoples' own words. You can't possibly believe that everyone who is maskless is vaccinated, can you?
And I didn't make this political. It's well established that right wing media perpetuates fear mongering about the vaccine. All I was saying that if people choose to skip it I hope it's not based off of mis and disinformation.
Give me a break. The right wing media perpetuates the fear mongering? I keep getting ready to consider it and someone like cuomo instills the fear into me. I just took ten steps backwards once he made the children 2 and up suddenly need to be masked up when they haven’t....you know, the next group of kids eligible for the vaccine. The blanket statements need to stop, the right wing media causing the fear LOL
There is fear mongering on both sides, for sure.
It's just very strange to me that this has become political.
A virus. Like many viruses before.
Why is a pandemic political?
It really makes me sick the way politics has become in this country.
On BOTH sides.
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| Posted 5/23/21 4:45 PM |
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LittleDiva
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Re: Unmask the children rally
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by LittleDiva
Posted by JennP
Posted by RainyDay
Posted by JennP
I admit that I wish people would get the vaccine. Science shows that is how we get out of this.
However, I understand that berating people into doing something is not really going to get anyone anywhere, so I don't say much about it and hope for the best.
I will say that if people decide not to, I hope the decision is based on facts and not because they are stuck in some nutty right wing media windtunnel. For example, that reuters article posted is literally line after line about how there doesn't seem to actually be anything to worry about. Now, if my child had heart problems or something, sure I would consult his cardiologist, ped, etc. and go with what they suggest. For that matter, for anyone who is that concerned, let them consult their doctor just like people do for any other medical procedure.
Anti maskers who talk about fearmongering are awfully fearful of a vaccine, IMO.
What pisses me off much more than any of that is people who are abusing the honor system and going maskless even though they are unvaccinated. At least two people on here seem to be doing that, unless they got vaccinated in the meantime or something. But if they didn't, those people are assholes. If you don't want to get the vaccine fine but then comply with the rules posted in public places to protect people who cannot get the vaccine due to age or another issue.
I tend to lean pretty far left and as of right now I refuse to get the vaccine. Let's not make this a political issue. At this point why are you so concerned about those who are unvaccinated? If we follow the science, those who are vaccinated have nothing to worry about.
And these statements about those who are still unvaccinated are not wearing masks is a bunch of BS. Noone in my family or extended family that have yet to be vaccinated have stopped wearing masks. Please stop with the fear mongering
Most of the points I would make is response have been addressed in other posts but I want to add that just because YOUR family is still masking up, doesn't mean that everyone is doing the right thing. I say this often on here but anecdotes don't really matter. It's about what the larger population is doing. I'm sure many people are doing the right thing but I am also sure many are not based off of peoples' own words. You can't possibly believe that everyone who is maskless is vaccinated, can you?
And I didn't make this political. It's well established that right wing media perpetuates fear mongering about the vaccine. All I was saying that if people choose to skip it I hope it's not based off of mis and disinformation.
Give me a break. The right wing media perpetuates the fear mongering? I keep getting ready to consider it and someone like cuomo instills the fear into me. I just took ten steps backwards once he made the children 2 and up suddenly need to be masked up when they haven’t....you know, the next group of kids eligible for the vaccine. The blanket statements need to stop, the right wing media causing the fear LOL
There is fear mongering on both sides, for sure.
It's just very strange to me that this has become political.
A virus. Like many viruses before.
Why is a pandemic political?
It really makes me sick the way politics has become in this country.
On BOTH sides.
Bc it happened during an election year and with a president who was hated by many while worshiped by others. Perfect storm.
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JennP
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Re: Unmask the children rally
Posted by LittleDiva
Posted by JennP
Posted by RainyDay
Posted by JennP
I admit that I wish people would get the vaccine. Science shows that is how we get out of this.
However, I understand that berating people into doing something is not really going to get anyone anywhere, so I don't say much about it and hope for the best.
I will say that if people decide not to, I hope the decision is based on facts and not because they are stuck in some nutty right wing media windtunnel. For example, that reuters article posted is literally line after line about how there doesn't seem to actually be anything to worry about. Now, if my child had heart problems or something, sure I would consult his cardiologist, ped, etc. and go with what they suggest. For that matter, for anyone who is that concerned, let them consult their doctor just like people do for any other medical procedure.
Anti maskers who talk about fearmongering are awfully fearful of a vaccine, IMO.
What pisses me off much more than any of that is people who are abusing the honor system and going maskless even though they are unvaccinated. At least two people on here seem to be doing that, unless they got vaccinated in the meantime or something. But if they didn't, those people are assholes. If you don't want to get the vaccine fine but then comply with the rules posted in public places to protect people who cannot get the vaccine due to age or another issue.
I tend to lean pretty far left and as of right now I refuse to get the vaccine. Let's not make this a political issue. At this point why are you so concerned about those who are unvaccinated? If we follow the science, those who are vaccinated have nothing to worry about.
And these statements about those who are still unvaccinated are not wearing masks is a bunch of BS. Noone in my family or extended family that have yet to be vaccinated have stopped wearing masks. Please stop with the fear mongering
Most of the points I would make is response have been addressed in other posts but I want to add that just because YOUR family is still masking up, doesn't mean that everyone is doing the right thing. I say this often on here but anecdotes don't really matter. It's about what the larger population is doing. I'm sure many people are doing the right thing but I am also sure many are not based off of peoples' own words. You can't possibly believe that everyone who is maskless is vaccinated, can you?
And I didn't make this political. It's well established that right wing media perpetuates fear mongering about the vaccine. All I was saying that if people choose to skip it I hope it's not based off of mis and disinformation.
Give me a break. The right wing media perpetuates the fear mongering? I keep getting ready to consider it and someone like cuomo instills the fear into me. I just took ten steps backwards once he made the children 2 and up suddenly need to be masked up when they haven’t....you know, the next group of kids eligible for the vaccine. The blanket statements need to stop, the right wing media causing the fear LOL
So, you are making your health decisions based on Cuomo's policies for children being masked which most of us agree does not seem to be based on logic? That's silly.
An article with examples of right wing mis and disinformation about vaccines
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| Posted 5/23/21 4:58 PM |
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LittleDiva
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Re: Unmask the children rally
Posted by JennP
Posted by LittleDiva
Posted by JennP
Posted by RainyDay
Posted by JennP
I admit that I wish people would get the vaccine. Science shows that is how we get out of this.
However, I understand that berating people into doing something is not really going to get anyone anywhere, so I don't say much about it and hope for the best.
I will say that if people decide not to, I hope the decision is based on facts and not because they are stuck in some nutty right wing media windtunnel. For example, that reuters article posted is literally line after line about how there doesn't seem to actually be anything to worry about. Now, if my child had heart problems or something, sure I would consult his cardiologist, ped, etc. and go with what they suggest. For that matter, for anyone who is that concerned, let them consult their doctor just like people do for any other medical procedure.
Anti maskers who talk about fearmongering are awfully fearful of a vaccine, IMO.
What pisses me off much more than any of that is people who are abusing the honor system and going maskless even though they are unvaccinated. At least two people on here seem to be doing that, unless they got vaccinated in the meantime or something. But if they didn't, those people are assholes. If you don't want to get the vaccine fine but then comply with the rules posted in public places to protect people who cannot get the vaccine due to age or another issue.
I tend to lean pretty far left and as of right now I refuse to get the vaccine. Let's not make this a political issue. At this point why are you so concerned about those who are unvaccinated? If we follow the science, those who are vaccinated have nothing to worry about.
And these statements about those who are still unvaccinated are not wearing masks is a bunch of BS. Noone in my family or extended family that have yet to be vaccinated have stopped wearing masks. Please stop with the fear mongering
Most of the points I would make is response have been addressed in other posts but I want to add that just because YOUR family is still masking up, doesn't mean that everyone is doing the right thing. I say this often on here but anecdotes don't really matter. It's about what the larger population is doing. I'm sure many people are doing the right thing but I am also sure many are not based off of peoples' own words. You can't possibly believe that everyone who is maskless is vaccinated, can you?
And I didn't make this political. It's well established that right wing media perpetuates fear mongering about the vaccine. All I was saying that if people choose to skip it I hope it's not based off of mis and disinformation.
Give me a break. The right wing media perpetuates the fear mongering? I keep getting ready to consider it and someone like cuomo instills the fear into me. I just took ten steps backwards once he made the children 2 and up suddenly need to be masked up when they haven’t....you know, the next group of kids eligible for the vaccine. The blanket statements need to stop, the right wing media causing the fear LOL
So, you are making your health decisions based on Cuomo's policies for children being masked which most of us agree does not seem to be based on logic? That's silly.
An article with examples of right wing mis and disinformation about vaccines
No, I’m making it based on my own personal risk vs. reward. And cuomo’s hard push to get everyone vaccinated and trying to force it raises red flags for me.
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| Posted 5/23/21 5:03 PM |
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Unmask the children rally
How about we don't criticize one another for their decision whether to vaccinate their kids? It's a tough decision with really no good answer...
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Re: Unmask the children rally
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by LittleDiva
Posted by JennP
Posted by RainyDay
Posted by JennP
I admit that I wish people would get the vaccine. Science shows that is how we get out of this.
However, I understand that berating people into doing something is not really going to get anyone anywhere, so I don't say much about it and hope for the best.
I will say that if people decide not to, I hope the decision is based on facts and not because they are stuck in some nutty right wing media windtunnel. For example, that reuters article posted is literally line after line about how there doesn't seem to actually be anything to worry about. Now, if my child had heart problems or something, sure I would consult his cardiologist, ped, etc. and go with what they suggest. For that matter, for anyone who is that concerned, let them consult their doctor just like people do for any other medical procedure.
Anti maskers who talk about fearmongering are awfully fearful of a vaccine, IMO.
What pisses me off much more than any of that is people who are abusing the honor system and going maskless even though they are unvaccinated. At least two people on here seem to be doing that, unless they got vaccinated in the meantime or something. But if they didn't, those people are assholes. If you don't want to get the vaccine fine but then comply with the rules posted in public places to protect people who cannot get the vaccine due to age or another issue.
I tend to lean pretty far left and as of right now I refuse to get the vaccine. Let's not make this a political issue. At this point why are you so concerned about those who are unvaccinated? If we follow the science, those who are vaccinated have nothing to worry about.
And these statements about those who are still unvaccinated are not wearing masks is a bunch of BS. Noone in my family or extended family that have yet to be vaccinated have stopped wearing masks. Please stop with the fear mongering
Most of the points I would make is response have been addressed in other posts but I want to add that just because YOUR family is still masking up, doesn't mean that everyone is doing the right thing. I say this often on here but anecdotes don't really matter. It's about what the larger population is doing. I'm sure many people are doing the right thing but I am also sure many are not based off of peoples' own words. You can't possibly believe that everyone who is maskless is vaccinated, can you?
And I didn't make this political. It's well established that right wing media perpetuates fear mongering about the vaccine. All I was saying that if people choose to skip it I hope it's not based off of mis and disinformation.
Give me a break. The right wing media perpetuates the fear mongering? I keep getting ready to consider it and someone like cuomo instills the fear into me. I just took ten steps backwards once he made the children 2 and up suddenly need to be masked up when they haven’t....you know, the next group of kids eligible for the vaccine. The blanket statements need to stop, the right wing media causing the fear LOL
There is fear mongering on both sides, for sure.
It's just very strange to me that this has become political.
A virus. Like many viruses before.
Why is a pandemic political?
It really makes me sick the way politics has become in this country.
On BOTH sides.
Exactly. How people don’t see how this has become political amazes me.
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| Posted 5/23/21 6:25 PM |
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Re: Unmask the children rally
Posted by LittleDiva
Posted by JennP
Posted by LittleDiva
Posted by JennP
Posted by RainyDay
Posted by JennP
I admit that I wish people would get the vaccine. Science shows that is how we get out of this.
However, I understand that berating people into doing something is not really going to get anyone anywhere, so I don't say much about it and hope for the best.
I will say that if people decide not to, I hope the decision is based on facts and not because they are stuck in some nutty right wing media windtunnel. For example, that reuters article posted is literally line after line about how there doesn't seem to actually be anything to worry about. Now, if my child had heart problems or something, sure I would consult his cardiologist, ped, etc. and go with what they suggest. For that matter, for anyone who is that concerned, let them consult their doctor just like people do for any other medical procedure.
Anti maskers who talk about fearmongering are awfully fearful of a vaccine, IMO.
What pisses me off much more than any of that is people who are abusing the honor system and going maskless even though they are unvaccinated. At least two people on here seem to be doing that, unless they got vaccinated in the meantime or something. But if they didn't, those people are assholes. If you don't want to get the vaccine fine but then comply with the rules posted in public places to protect people who cannot get the vaccine due to age or another issue.
I tend to lean pretty far left and as of right now I refuse to get the vaccine. Let's not make this a political issue. At this point why are you so concerned about those who are unvaccinated? If we follow the science, those who are vaccinated have nothing to worry about.
And these statements about those who are still unvaccinated are not wearing masks is a bunch of BS. Noone in my family or extended family that have yet to be vaccinated have stopped wearing masks. Please stop with the fear mongering
Most of the points I would make is response have been addressed in other posts but I want to add that just because YOUR family is still masking up, doesn't mean that everyone is doing the right thing. I say this often on here but anecdotes don't really matter. It's about what the larger population is doing. I'm sure many people are doing the right thing but I am also sure many are not based off of peoples' own words. You can't possibly believe that everyone who is maskless is vaccinated, can you?
And I didn't make this political. It's well established that right wing media perpetuates fear mongering about the vaccine. All I was saying that if people choose to skip it I hope it's not based off of mis and disinformation.
Give me a break. The right wing media perpetuates the fear mongering? I keep getting ready to consider it and someone like cuomo instills the fear into me. I just took ten steps backwards once he made the children 2 and up suddenly need to be masked up when they haven’t....you know, the next group of kids eligible for the vaccine. The blanket statements need to stop, the right wing media causing the fear LOL
So, you are making your health decisions based on Cuomo's policies for children being masked which most of us agree does not seem to be based on logic? That's silly.
An article with examples of right wing mis and disinformation about vaccines
No, I’m making it based on my own personal risk vs. reward. And cuomo’s hard push to get everyone vaccinated and trying to force it raises red flags for me.
As well as myself and others. The bribery is just so out of hand. A vaccine that is not even approved but we all run for it because we are told if you do, you will be able to unmask and get back to normal. Then you are told oh no, you still need to mask up and get at least 3 shots and a booster.
People are over this. The numbers are low in places that have unmasked months ago and our numbers are under 1%.
This is a virus that will never go away and the goal is to have little to no hospitalizations and deaths. It is not to cover up and stay apart forever.
I can assure you that not all people are scared like people on this board. So many vaccinated and unvaccinated people going without masks and trying to get back to normal.
You do you and if you are that terrified, continue wearing a mask, stay home or do whatever to do to solve that for you.
I can assure you though that from reading the posts on here in the last few months and just an entire weekend of things being open, people are MUCH happier without the restrictions and I honestly have gotten more depressed reading these responses as it seems many people here will never stop being paranoid even after getting vaccinated and it is truly ruining your mental health.
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| Posted 5/23/21 6:34 PM |
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jlm2008
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Re: Unmask the children rally
Posted by JennP
Posted by Naturalmama
Posted by RainyDay
Posted by JennP
I admit that I wish people would get the vaccine. Science shows that is how we get out of this.
However, I understand that berating people into doing something is not really going to get anyone anywhere, so I don't say much about it and hope for the best.
I will say that if people decide not to, I hope the decision is based on facts and not because they are stuck in some nutty right wing media windtunnel. For example, that reuters article posted is literally line after line about how there doesn't seem to actually be anything to worry about. Now, if my child had heart problems or something, sure I would consult his cardiologist, ped, etc. and go with what they suggest. For that matter, for anyone who is that concerned, let them consult their doctor just like people do for any other medical procedure.
Anti maskers who talk about fearmongering are awfully fearful of a vaccine, IMO.
What pisses me off much more than any of that is people who are abusing the honor system and going maskless even though they are unvaccinated. At least two people on here seem to be doing that, unless they got vaccinated in the meantime or something. But if they didn't, those people are assholes. If you don't want to get the vaccine fine but then comply with the rules posted in public places to protect people who cannot get the vaccine due to age or another issue.
I tend to lean pretty far left and as of right now I refuse to get the vaccine. Let's not make this a political issue. At this point why are you so concerned about those who are unvaccinated? If we follow the science, those who are vaccinated have nothing to worry about.
And these statements about those who are still unvaccinated are not wearing masks is a bunch of BS. Noone in my family or extended family that have yet to be vaccinated have stopped wearing masks. Please stop with the fear mongering
I could be wrong, but I think she was referring to people on here who openly state they ditched the masks even though they are not vaccinated.
I am not afraid of the unvaccinated, like you said, I am protected so I don't care for myself. But I am very worried about this thing resurging. I have severe PTSD from last year, so I may just overthink it more than others lol.
Yes, thank you. That is what I meant.
I don't recall the thread (it might not be this one) but it's been said several times.
Little Diva has admitted that she goes into stores without a mask and is not vaccinated...there is no way she is the only one on this website. I would bet on at least 5 posters off the top of my head who do it. But whateves
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| Posted 5/23/21 11:33 PM |
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Re: Unmask the children rally
So I just read the reversed the decision that kids 2-5 need to start wearing masks. It’s back to the old rule.
Not sure if this was posted since I didn’t read through all of the recent posts
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| Posted 5/24/21 12:03 AM |
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NervousNell
Just another chapter in life..
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Re: Unmask the children rally
Posted by blu6385
So I just read the reversed the decision that kids 2-5 need to start wearing masks. It’s back to the old rule.
Not sure if this was posted since I didn’t read through all of the recent posts
So what made him reverse it so soon after coming out with it?
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| Posted 5/24/21 12:07 AM |
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ali120206
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Re: Unmask the children rally
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by blu6385
So I just read the reversed the decision that kids 2-5 need to start wearing masks. It’s back to the old rule.
Not sure if this was posted since I didn’t read through all of the recent posts
So what made him reverse it so soon after coming out with it?
I think pushback. Many of the Mid Hudson Execs sent a letter saying they weren’t enforcing this mandate and mentioned further guidance would be coming.
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| Posted 5/24/21 12:11 AM |
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LittleDiva
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Re: Unmask the children rally
Posted by jlm2008
Posted by JennP
Posted by Naturalmama
Posted by RainyDay
Posted by JennP
I admit that I wish people would get the vaccine. Science shows that is how we get out of this.
However, I understand that berating people into doing something is not really going to get anyone anywhere, so I don't say much about it and hope for the best.
I will say that if people decide not to, I hope the decision is based on facts and not because they are stuck in some nutty right wing media windtunnel. For example, that reuters article posted is literally line after line about how there doesn't seem to actually be anything to worry about. Now, if my child had heart problems or something, sure I would consult his cardiologist, ped, etc. and go with what they suggest. For that matter, for anyone who is that concerned, let them consult their doctor just like people do for any other medical procedure.
Anti maskers who talk about fearmongering are awfully fearful of a vaccine, IMO.
What pisses me off much more than any of that is people who are abusing the honor system and going maskless even though they are unvaccinated. At least two people on here seem to be doing that, unless they got vaccinated in the meantime or something. But if they didn't, those people are assholes. If you don't want to get the vaccine fine but then comply with the rules posted in public places to protect people who cannot get the vaccine due to age or another issue.
I tend to lean pretty far left and as of right now I refuse to get the vaccine. Let's not make this a political issue. At this point why are you so concerned about those who are unvaccinated? If we follow the science, those who are vaccinated have nothing to worry about.
And these statements about those who are still unvaccinated are not wearing masks is a bunch of BS. Noone in my family or extended family that have yet to be vaccinated have stopped wearing masks. Please stop with the fear mongering
I could be wrong, but I think she was referring to people on here who openly state they ditched the masks even though they are not vaccinated.
I am not afraid of the unvaccinated, like you said, I am protected so I don't care for myself. But I am very worried about this thing resurging. I have severe PTSD from last year, so I may just overthink it more than others lol.
Yes, thank you. That is what I meant.
I don't recall the thread (it might not be this one) but it's been said several times.
Little Diva has admitted that she goes into stores without a mask and is not vaccinated...there is no way she is the only one on this website. I would bet on at least 5 posters off the top of my head who do it. But whateves
And just to be clear, I’m not an a-hole about it. If I’m running in and getting my coffee and having zero human interaction....no mask. If I’m shopping and no one is around me....my mask is down. I just don’t see the logic in wearing it when I’m not in close contact with people. I still wear it to go to a doctors office....don’t even question it. If I see people with a mask on in the store....I wear it. I am not running around like a maskless lunatic, I just use common sense and courtesy.
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Re: Unmask the children rally
Posted by ali120206
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by blu6385
So I just read the reversed the decision that kids 2-5 need to start wearing masks. It’s back to the old rule.
Not sure if this was posted since I didn’t read through all of the recent posts
So what made him reverse it so soon after coming out with it?
I think pushback. Many of the Mid Hudson Execs sent a letter saying they weren’t enforcing this mandate and mentioned further guidance would be coming.
It doesn’t say but from what I can tell it was from all the pushback from parents and I think owners of daycare‘s etc.
So basically he probably got bombarded with calls, emails and fax.
I think that’s what really needs to be done!!
Everyone who is not happy should be calling writing emails etc. once a week or maybe daily the more people that do that theres more or a chance he might reverse some of the rules!! Not sure how much of a chance but a chance! 
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NervousNell
Just another chapter in life..
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Re: Unmask the children rally
Posted by blu6385
Posted by ali120206
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by blu6385
So I just read the reversed the decision that kids 2-5 need to start wearing masks. It’s back to the old rule.
Not sure if this was posted since I didn’t read through all of the recent posts
So what made him reverse it so soon after coming out with it?
I think pushback. Many of the Mid Hudson Execs sent a letter saying they weren’t enforcing this mandate and mentioned further guidance would be coming.
It doesn’t say but from what I can tell it was from all the pushback from parents and I think owners of daycare‘s etc.
So basically he probably got bombarded with calls, emails and fax.
I think that’s what really needs to be done!!
Everyone who is not happy should be calling writing emails etc. once a week or maybe daily the more people that do that theres more or a chance he might reverse some of the rules!! Not sure how much of a chance but a chance!
Interesting! And nice to see we may still have a say! I was really starting to feel helpless lately when it comes to that.
I thought for sure another woman had come forward saying he was being a pervy creep at work....that usually works too!
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