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Re: Thoughts on Obamas presidency in light of election?

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I will give him the utmost respect for being the first african american president. However, I am very happy his presidency has come to an end.

His presidency affected myself and my family greatly.

I got laid off.
My healthcare went from fabulous to terrible. Having to pay thousands out of pocket is unacceptable.
I am heavily taxed. The sequester changed our paycheck drastically.
Race relations are beyond tense.
The immigration and lack of border control is a joke.
The mass shootings since he took office.

I could go on and on. So I am happy to see him and his family go. Buh bye!




I agree with all of this. Also my husband has been laid off 2 times during Obama's presidency, after 20+ years in the same field and never having been laid off. I cannot express how happy we are that he is done.



I know someone that was laid off 3x during GWB, is that Obama's fault too?



I would feel that was GWBs fault in that case. And in this case, Obama's reign will be blamed.

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Re: Thoughts on Obamas presidency in light of election?

Posted by Meg1234

Posted by MrsMick

I said issues happened in the 60's and 70's. Obama reignited the war. How the hell is that racist? It's obvious! Whites and Blacks are further more divided now- more than ever. Racisim won't go away. Neither will anti semitisim, hates against gays, etc. But I truly beliebe that Obama re-started it again. During a couple of shootings, some of his comments should have never been said. I always felt that he was always there to divide when he in fact as a man born to a white woman and a black man could use that as a tool to bring in togetherness. That is how I see it. I don't feel he delivered well on trying to unite people. How the hell is that racist?



I also agree. Race issues should be better after Obama (esp being half white, half black), when they are clearly worse. Not saying he created them, but he ignited a further divide, vs bringing people together.



I am glad someone sees my perspective. It is so obvious. To many people I know at least. Even my *gasp* black friends!

Posted 11/2/16 5:14 PM
 

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Re: Thoughts on Obamas presidency in light of election?

Posted by MC09

Posted by Meg1234

Posted by MrsMick

I will give him the utmost respect for being the first african american president. However, I am very happy his presidency has come to an end.

His presidency affected myself and my family greatly.

I got laid off.
My healthcare went from fabulous to terrible. Having to pay thousands out of pocket is unacceptable.
I am heavily taxed. The sequester changed our paycheck drastically.
Race relations are beyond tense.
The immigration and lack of border control is a joke.
The mass shootings since he took office.

I could go on and on. So I am happy to see him and his family go. Buh bye!




I agree with all of this. Also my husband has been laid off 2 times during Obama's presidency, after 20+ years in the same field and never having been laid off. I cannot express how happy we are that he is done.



I know someone that was laid off 3x during GWB, is that Obama's fault too?



My husband has been laid off several times, including as of last Friday, under both presidents because his field is one that is outsourced easily. Do we blame Obama for the most recent layoff? Absolutely not. We blame his POS head of the department who took credit for a major project that DH did and basically made himself look indispensable and got the higher ups to agree to toss the rest of the department and outsource to another company (not overseas).

Posted 11/2/16 5:53 PM
 

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Re: Thoughts on Obamas presidency in light of election?

Posted by Meg1234

I am also glad to see Obama go, as I believe the issues of disrespect and hostility towards police officers and formation of BLM - those are clearly evidence of worse race relations now than before Obama. Obama has shown serious disrespect towards our police, who put their lives on the line every single day protecting us from criminals. Goodbye OBAMA.



Pretty sure that's been disproven time and time again on previous posts on the subject. But it's clear by your statement you're not knowledgable on the subject of BLM or race relations.

Posted 11/2/16 5:57 PM
 

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Re: Thoughts on Obamas presidency in light of election?

Posted by ElizaRags35

Posted by Meg1234

I am also glad to see Obama go, as I believe the issues of disrespect and hostility towards police officers and formation of BLM - those are clearly evidence of worse race relations now than before Obama. Obama has shown serious disrespect towards our police, who put their lives on the line every single day protecting us from criminals. Goodbye OBAMA.



Pretty sure that's been disproven time and time again on previous posts on the subject. But it's clear by your statement you're not knowledgable on the subject of BLM or race relations.



I do not recall being disproven. Please disprove my statement and Explain why I am wrong. However just because you disagree does not mean I am disproven either.

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Posted 11/2/16 7:15 PM
 

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wont miss him or his wife with the devil eyes

Posted 11/2/16 7:30 PM
 

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Thoughts on Obamas presidency in light of election?

I shouldn't be shocked by the disgusting racism on this thread but yet again I am.

It's apparent many people have no concept of what "race relations" even means but they like to claim that they are so knowledgeable on black experiences because of their black friend from 7th grade.

Please disabuse yourself of the notion ant you are somehow enlightened to the systemic oppression and silencing that black people have been subjected to for hundreds of years because your black coworker calls you homegirl because the black man at the supermarket was a really nice guy and it surprised you!

If you have no interest in racism beyond the surface, don't get in the way of people who are actively dismantling and calling it out. If you don't have to give a crap about racism don't think your ignorance goes unnoticed either.

Black people did not create racism and they do not benefit from it. It is not their responsibility to say, hey white people let's be cool and forget about all the horrific, fuckked up shit you've done to us for hundreds of years and then blame us for. If you think Barack Obama had a responsibility to get black communities to unite and sing kumbaya with the white people who call them the n word behind their backs, who turn up their nose at black communities, who always claim to be "not racist" while eying the black man in the parking lot you are the people who keep racism alive because you just want it to go away while still believing all your racist ********.

I lived in that racist bubble and shattered it. There are many many people invested in our black communities and whose hearts break every time Sam Hunt or Sandra Bland become a hashtag. So miss us with your anecdotes and pithy commentary. If you don't like Obama that's fine. It being ignorant is your own fault and even he can't help you with that.

Posted 11/2/16 7:55 PM
 

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Thoughts on Obamas presidency in light of election?

I didn't vote for him either time, but I would lady keep him instead of the other two bozos

Posted 11/2/16 8:21 PM
 

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Re: Thoughts on Obamas presidency in light of election?

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wont miss him or his wife with the devil eyes



I don't understand all the criticism of her looks. It's disgusting.

Posted 11/2/16 9:31 PM
 

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Re: Thoughts on Obamas presidency in light of election?

No matter how you feel about him right now, I'm sure that everyone will be wishing he was back in office in a few months from now.....

I think he did fine. Not great, not horrible. Just fine. It was nice having a president who was so well spoken and had such charisma. Having to listen to either Trump or Clinton for the next 4 years is going to be horrible.

Posted 11/2/16 9:50 PM
 

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Re: Thoughts on Obamas presidency in light of election?

I think he is a very good man that really wanted to make big, positive changes in our country. I think he tried his hardest but was met with resistance every step of the way. I swear if had said the sky was blue Congress would have shut him down and said it was red, just because. I am not a fan of his foreign policies and think he should have been more aggressive with some other countries and kept us out of some others affairs all together. I always felt like he was lecturing or playing Risk, but he needed to be more decisive and take action instead.
I think his family is beautiful and real. Real class acts (even if one smokes pot Chat Icon ). He had his pulse on the younger generations, something that most presidents could never achieve, nor cared about. I think that has brought a lot of younger people into being more political and understanding they can have a voice and should use it. I think he will go on to do great things and be a real humanitarian, like Jimmy Carter. And I'd take a 3rd term over Tweedle Dumb or Tweedle Dumber any day!

How anyone thinks he is directly responsible for the current state of race relations is beyond me. All he did was show people of color they have a voice and they CAN achieve many great things. The fact that he had the opportunity to use his race to shine a light on racial inequality should be applauded. He never once said anything to "stir people up" or that wasn't an actuality about race. The unfortunate thing that came about was the opportunity for the racists and bigots to blame him for it all, instead of addressing and accepting their own attitudes and acknowledging the problems. The fact is most of them just could not handle the fact that a black man got ahead and was elected the President twice. Just look at some posts on this thread. The racism is blatant and sad. And they use Obama as an excuse for it. Don't tell me for one minute that the majority of shenanigans that went on, still go on, in Congress was NOT due to the color of the man's skin. Don't tell me we'd be short a Supreme Court Justice if the sitting POTUS was white.

Posted 11/2/16 10:10 PM
 

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Re: Thoughts on Obamas presidency in light of election?

Posted by ElizaRags35

Posted by hmm

wont miss him or his wife with the devil eyes



I don't understand all the criticism of her looks. It's disgusting.



People on this board criticize trump for his looks all the time

Posted 11/2/16 10:21 PM
 

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Re: Thoughts on Obamas presidency in light of election?

Posted by evrythng4areason

Posted by ElizaRags35

Posted by hmm

wont miss him or his wife with the devil eyes



I don't understand all the criticism of her looks. It's disgusting.



People on this board criticize trump for his looks all the time



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Posted 11/2/16 10:31 PM
 

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Re: Thoughts on Obamas presidency in light of election?

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I think he is a very good man that really wanted to make big, positive changes in our country. I think he tried his hardest but was met with resistance every step of the way. I swear if had said the sky was blue Congress would have shut him down and said it was red, just because. I am not a fan of his foreign policies and think he should have been more aggressive with some other countries and kept us out of some others affairs all together. I always felt like he was lecturing or playing Risk, but he needed to be more decisive and take action instead.
I think his family is beautiful and real. Real class acts (even if one smokes pot Chat Icon ). He had his pulse on the younger generations, something that most presidents could never achieve, nor cared about. I think that has brought a lot of younger people into being more political and understanding they can have a voice and should use it. I think he will go on to do great things and be a real humanitarian, like Jimmy Carter. And I'd take a 3rd term over Tweedle Dumb or Tweedle Dumber any day!

How anyone thinks he is directly responsible for the current state of race relations is beyond me. All he did was show people of color they have a voice and they CAN achieve many great things. The fact that he had the opportunity to use his race to shine a light on racial inequality should be applauded. He never once said anything to "stir people up" or that wasn't an actuality about race. The unfortunate thing that came about was the opportunity for the racists and bigots to blame him for it all, instead of addressing and accepting their own attitudes and acknowledging the problems. The fact is most of them just could not handle the fact that a black man got ahead and was elected the President twice. Just look at some posts on this thread. The racism is blatant and sad. And they use Obama as an excuse for it. Don't tell me for one minute that the majority of shenanigans that went on, still go on, in Congress was NOT due to the color of the man's skin. Don't tell me we'd be short a Supreme Court Justice if the sitting POTUS was white.




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Re: Thoughts on Obamas presidency in light of election?

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Hated him from day 1... Happy to see him go!

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Was going to post the same, glad somebody beat me to it. The change monkey can go take a long walk off a short pier for all I care.

It's amazing that for the first african american president, we now have some of the worst race relations ever.



Calling an African American person a monkey is horrific, offensive and everyone's favorite word: RACIST. Seriously, you could have picked 348723987237 derrogatory terms without going there.

Also, I think racial tensions being as charged as they are is a sign of improvement. When people talk about how there was none of this 20 years ago, they don't understand that that was not because things were better. They may have been 'better' for me as a white person, but they were absolutely not better for people of color. Change doesn't come about quietly, it comes with noise and disruption of the status quo. Pick any point in history when things got better for any group and you'll see it was acheived through protest, fight and often times violence.

That people of color are feeling strong enough to organize, speak out and yes, even riot is a sign that things are improving. As a group, they wouldn't be able to stand up if they were still afraid of being lynched for vocalizing their opinions.

I like Obama - can you tell? I'll miss him.



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Posted 11/2/16 10:59 PM
 

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Re: Thoughts on Obamas presidency in light of election?

I find him personally very charming and agree that it's been nice to have a smart, well-spoken, personal-scandal-free role model in the White House.

I just have major issues with policy decisions: the Iran deal and the plane-loads of cash, the mind-boggling expansion of spying on the populace and the huge data facility out West with the capacity for 1984-like invasion of privacy, the executive order granting amnesty to illegal immigrants without a major immigration overhaul in place so that could be part of a more comprehensive plan, the record-shattering campaign donation hauls from Wall Street.

I voted for him the first time, but the second time I cast a 3rd party protest vote because I felt confident that he would win NY.

Posted 11/3/16 3:19 AM
 

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Re: Thoughts on Obamas presidency in light of election?

Skipping over a lot of replies and will catch up later, I'm sad to see him go. I agreed with a lot that he did, but I wish he would have done more in / for Syria. Taking the rebel side was an easy (and questionable) way to not get involved. I mean I understand why he did it, but it's a humanitarian crisis at this point. I also disagreed with the way Bill Clinton did not get involved with Rwanda, so there's that.

The FACTA (FBAR in particular) also bothers me and that happened under Obama. I don't like how that affects my husband, who is not a US citizen or green card holder. I feel that is a violation of privacy even if my name is also on the account. There is no exception to this rule. But this is more of an expat issue, so I get how no one here would understand this.

I'm going to miss him as a President. The US was much better respected when he was President than GWB. at least that's what I've seen being abroad for close to 13 years.


Posted 11/3/16 3:41 AM
 

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Re: Thoughts on Obamas presidency in light of election?

Posted by Kitten1929

I shouldn't be shocked by the disgusting racism on this thread but yet again I am.

It's apparent many people have no concept of what "race relations" even means but they like to claim that they are so knowledgeable on black experiences because of their black friend from 7th grade.

Please disabuse yourself of the notion ant you are somehow enlightened to the systemic oppression and silencing that black people have been subjected to for hundreds of years because your black coworker calls you homegirl because the black man at the supermarket was a really nice guy and it surprised you!

If you have no interest in racism beyond the surface, don't get in the way of people who are actively dismantling and calling it out. If you don't have to give a crap about racism don't think your ignorance goes unnoticed either.

Black people did not create racism and they do not benefit from it. It is not their responsibility to say, hey white people let's be cool and forget about all the horrific, fuckked up shit you've done to us for hundreds of years and then blame us for. If you think Barack Obama had a responsibility to get black communities to unite and sing kumbaya with the white people who call them the n word behind their backs, who turn up their nose at black communities, who always claim to be "not racist" while eying the black man in the parking lot you are the people who keep racism alive because you just want it to go away while still believing all your racist ********.

I lived in that racist bubble and shattered it. There are many many people invested in our black communities and whose hearts break every time Sam Hunt or Sandra Bland become a hashtag. So miss us with your anecdotes and pithy commentary. If you don't like Obama that's fine. It being ignorant is your own fault and even he can't help you with that.



Wow. Did not know you were quite the expert there. Give me a break. I will still maintain that I have probably have a more diverse group of friends than you do. Does that make me an expert on blacks? No. I do not sit there and dwell on history that we don't have control over. Your way of thinking will never contribute to any type of change.

You are just as transparent with all your BS like your girl Hillary Clinton.

Stop trying to twist and turn my words. Stop trying to assume that I am something that I am not. You act like you are perfect and all tolerant. But you and Liz and some of the others are the most hypocritical full of sh*t people on here.

And while trying to type out a well thought out, intellectual response- try using less run on sentences and try formulating something that actually makes sense.

Posted 11/3/16 6:54 AM
 

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Re: Thoughts on Obamas presidency in light of election?

Posted by BaseballWidow

I think he is a very good man that really wanted to make big, positive changes in our country. I think he tried his hardest but was met with resistance every step of the way. I swear if had said the sky was blue Congress would have shut him down and said it was red, just because. I am not a fan of his foreign policies and think he should have been more aggressive with some other countries and kept us out of some others affairs all together. I always felt like he was lecturing or playing Risk, but he needed to be more decisive and take action instead.
I think his family is beautiful and real. Real class acts (even if one smokes pot Chat Icon ). He had his pulse on the younger generations, something that most presidents could never achieve, nor cared about. I think that has brought a lot of younger people into being more political and understanding they can have a voice and should use it. I think he will go on to do great things and be a real humanitarian, like Jimmy Carter. And I'd take a 3rd term over Tweedle Dumb or Tweedle Dumber any day!

How anyone thinks he is directly responsible for the current state of race relations is beyond me. All he did was show people of color they have a voice and they CAN achieve many great things. The fact that he had the opportunity to use his race to shine a light on racial inequality should be applauded. He never once said anything to "stir people up" or that wasn't an actuality about race. The unfortunate thing that came about was the opportunity for the racists and bigots to blame him for it all, instead of addressing and accepting their own attitudes and acknowledging the problems. The fact is most of them just could not handle the fact that a black man got ahead and was elected the President twice. Just look at some posts on this thread. The racism is blatant and sad. And they use Obama as an excuse for it. Don't tell me for one minute that the majority of shenanigans that went on, still go on, in Congress was NOT due to the color of the man's skin. Don't tell me we'd be short a Supreme Court Justice if the sitting POTUS was white.




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Re: Thoughts on Obamas presidency in light of election?

Posted by MrsMick

And while trying to type out a well thought out, intellectual response- try using less run on sentences and try formulating something that actually makes sense.



I'm not going to get involved in the politics discussion, but... if you are going to call someone out on sentence structure, you should probably make sure you are using the right words in your comment. It should be "FEWER run on sentences," not "less."

Posted 11/3/16 7:18 AM
 

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Re: Thoughts on Obamas presidency in light of election?

Posted by Meg1234

Posted by ElizaRags35

Posted by Meg1234

I am also glad to see Obama go, as I believe the issues of disrespect and hostility towards police officers and formation of BLM - those are clearly evidence of worse race relations now than before Obama. Obama has shown serious disrespect towards our police, who put their lives on the line every single day protecting us from criminals. Goodbye OBAMA.



Pretty sure that's been disproven time and time again on previous posts on the subject. But it's clear by your statement you're not knowledgable on the subject of BLM or race relations.



I do not recall being disproven. Please disprove my statement and Explain why I am wrong. However just because you disagree does not mean I am disproven either.



http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2016/jul/12/william-johnson/law-enforcement-lobbyist-says-pro-police-speech-ma/

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Obama has repeatedly condemned violence against police.

Most recently, he expressed his support for police the night before the Dallas attack happened, amid protests over two police shootings of black men, and again after the sniper attack on police officers.

Obama’s consistent objections to violence against police is similar to rhetoric by Johnson, Nixon and the vast majority of American politicians and presidents.

Johnson’s statement is outrageously wrong. We rate this claim Pants on Fire.

Posted 11/3/16 7:30 AM
 

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Re: Thoughts on Obamas presidency in light of election?

When they go low, we go high.

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Posted 11/3/16 9:41 AM
 

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Re: Thoughts on Obamas presidency in light of election?

Posted by Kitten1929

I shouldn't be shocked by the disgusting racism on this thread but yet again I am.

It's apparent many people have no concept of what "race relations" even means but they like to claim that they are so knowledgeable on black experiences because of their black friend from 7th grade.

Please disabuse yourself of the notion ant you are somehow enlightened to the systemic oppression and silencing that black people have been subjected to for hundreds of years because your black coworker calls you homegirl because the black man at the supermarket was a really nice guy and it surprised you!

If you have no interest in racism beyond the surface, don't get in the way of people who are actively dismantling and calling it out. If you don't have to give a crap about racism don't think your ignorance goes unnoticed either.

Black people did not create racism and they do not benefit from it. It is not their responsibility to say, hey white people let's be cool and forget about all the horrific, fuckked up shit you've done to us for hundreds of years and then blame us for. If you think Barack Obama had a responsibility to get black communities to unite and sing kumbaya with the white people who call them the n word behind their backs, who turn up their nose at black communities, who always claim to be "not racist" while eying the black man in the parking lot you are the people who keep racism alive because you just want it to go away while still believing all your racist ********.

I lived in that racist bubble and shattered it. There are many many people invested in our black communities and whose hearts break every time Sam Hunt or Sandra Bland become a hashtag. So miss us with your anecdotes and pithy commentary. If you don't like Obama that's fine. It being ignorant is your own fault and even he can't help you with that.



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I was at the Center for Human and Civil Rights in Atlanta this past weekend for a work related conference and walking through that museum it was clear as day that nothing has changed in the last 50-60 years. Our country is still as divided as ever and that's not because of Obama, it's because our country is still filled with racists who refuse to take responsibility for the way our nation has treated other races since its creation.



Posted 11/3/16 10:06 AM
 

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Re: Thoughts on Obamas presidency in light of election?

IMO he will go down as the worst president in modern times.

Although, he didn't have any Lewinsky type scandals,
I would hardly say he had a scandal free presidency.

Benghazi
IRS
Sebelius demands
class warfare

List can go on... That being said, every president has something.

Posted 11/3/16 10:23 AM
 

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Thoughts on Obamas presidency in light of election?

I don't think many of the posters on here understand how government actually works and what powers the president possesses. Google the sun king complex. Their is far more limited in scope than most people realize. Many of the things Obama is being blamed for were not in his control.

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