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BigB
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Swimming and Kids
It is no joke and it is YOUR responsibility to make sure that YOUR children learn how to swim! Or, YOU keep them out of pools and oceans!
A person could literally drown in a puddle of water. You many life at this, but it is true.
Those arm bands, inner tube seats, any other type of flotation device is NOT a substitution for teaching your children learn how to swim.
In a nano-second, your child can go under and then are YOU prepared as to what needs to happen next? Most parents are not!
My husband was a life guard many moons ago and he has seen too many children and families not prepared to handle water emergencies. And while, our first inclination is to blame the life guards, the first line of defense is the family!
So, make sure you get your kids swimming lessons and that YOU also can swim and are 100% Attentive in any water filled vessel.
Okay, my soap box is over.....
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Posted 7/18/15 10:27 AM |
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Re: Swimming and Kids
It is 100% the responsibility of the parents. Life guards are there as a back up.
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Posted 7/18/15 10:56 AM |
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ElizaRags35
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Re: Swimming and Kids
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Posted 7/18/15 11:03 AM |
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Lara&Aidansmommy
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Re: Swimming and Kids
True! As i write this im out the door with my 3 and 5 year for their lesson
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Posted 7/18/15 11:10 AM |
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Sweetlax22
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Re: Swimming and Kids
So true! I was at a hotel pool last summer and there was a family there with two boys around 8-10 years old who could not swim. They kept almost drowning because they would venture towards where they could not stand. Their mother (who was very pregnant , not sure if that is relevant) was also in the pool and stated that she could not swim either. They were also hanging over the deep end of the pool to get their toys and I was so afraid they would fall in.
My friend and I were just sitting on the side trying to have a few drinks but this became pretty stressful for us as there where no lifeguards at the pool. We were trying to verbally help the kids swim (I actually teach swimming) and we were the ones reminding them to be careful bc they could not stand. They were picking up on things and listening to us but it really was too little too late and not our job in that situation at all. Thankfully nothing happened but I remember my friend an I saying to each other that we will not be happy if we have to jump in and save these kids and if that happens the mother better watch out.
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Posted 7/18/15 11:34 AM |
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sunnyflies
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Swimming and Kids
My brother had to jump into the deep end of a public pool to pull a kid out because the lifeguard did not see the 4 yr old jump in and flounder around, unable to swim. The lifeguard was also abut 75' away. The parents were busy enjoying lunch on a deck one flight up and didn't see their being so far away as a problem. Some people just don't get it.
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Posted 7/18/15 12:28 PM |
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Blubtrflygrl
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Re: Swimming and Kids
Honestly there are so many parents who don't GAF.
We were at Tanner last weekend and there was a kid who fell in the SPRAY PARK. He had been running around playing with DS, so DH who was supervising took him by his hand and asked him where his mother was. She was way over on the other side of the park, sunning herself.
Her response to DH: oh, go look for his father and let him handle it.
DH was so mad that he went off on the father (also not supervising) and said if neither one of them cared about their kid, he doesn't care either. (Sadly not the case but you KWIM).
This also happens a lot down there. There were kids in the bay beach last weekend and I didn't see any adults supervising.
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Posted 7/18/15 12:30 PM |
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2BadSoSad
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Re: Swimming and Kids
Im sorry, this is SO inappropriate to post KNOWING the family of the parents of the little boy who lost his life is on this board. Of course it is ultimately the parents responsibility and not the lifeguards (which was mentioned in the other post, wonder where the LGs were, etc) but how insensitive to lecture people right now on whose job it is to prevent you kids from drowning based on recent events on here. Im not saying what your post is about isnt true or important just in poor taste given recent events. Sometimes, tragic ACCIDENTS happen, even to the best parents, have some tact.
Message edited 7/18/2015 10:22:15 PM.
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Posted 7/18/15 2:04 PM |
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WannaBeAMom11
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Swimming and Kids
I agree. Everyone questions us why dd has been in lessons since she was 6 months old and why I'm in the pool when she is perfectly fine with her puddle jumper. Um drowning happens very quickly I'm not willing to take that chance.
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Posted 7/18/15 2:06 PM |
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WonderLady
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Re: Swimming and Kids
Posted by 2BadSoSad
Im sorry, this is SO inappropriate to post KNOWING the family of the parents of the little boy who lost his life is on this board. Of course it is the parents responsibility and not the lifeguards (which was mentioned in the other post, wonder where the LGs were, etc) but how insensitive to lecture people right now on whose job it is to prevent you kids from drowning based on recent events on here. Im not saying what your post is about isnt true or important just in poor taste given recent events.
I agree.
Also, just as an aside, I have had my kids in 2 sets of group swim lessons and they still don't know how to swim independently at 3 and 5. Private lessons for 2 kids, at like 30 bucks per lesson per week, is a little crazy.
Sometimes I feel like the puddle jumpers I've been strapping on them forever, are actually hindering their ability to learn. When I was 5 I was all over the pool on my own. My parents never put floaties on me. I just was sort of forced into learning to swim, if you know what I mean.
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Posted 7/18/15 2:18 PM |
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BlessedMomma
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Re: Swimming and Kids
Posted by 2BadSoSad
Im sorry, this is SO inappropriate to post KNOWING the family of the parents of the little boy who lost his life is on this board. Of course it is the parents responsibility and not the lifeguards (which was mentioned in the other post, wonder where the LGs were, etc) but how insensitive to lecture people right now on whose job it is to prevent you kids from drowning based on recent events on here. Im not saying what your post is about isnt true or important just in poor taste given recent events.
OP, Who are you to judge to and lecture anyone???
ETA: A child drowned and your pointing fingers at the parents? Do you have a heart or a conscious? Its not their fault. Accidents happen. Have some respect.
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Posted 7/18/15 2:34 PM |
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NervousNell
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Re: Swimming and Kids
And your kids can have swimming lessons and you can watch them like a hawk and they can still drown. Adults drown. Good swimmers drown. in the case at Disney the boy was 3. How many 3 year olds know how to swim?. Lessons or not. Accidents happen. He got away from his parents somehow from.what I read. It could happen to anyone. I wouldnt be so quick to judge or get on a soapbox.
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Posted 7/18/15 2:39 PM |
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Sash
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Re: Swimming and Kids
Posted by WonderLady
Also, just as an aside, I have had my kids in 2 sets of group swim lessons and they still don't know how to swim independently at 3 and 5. Private lessons for 2 kids, at like 30 bucks per lesson per week, is a little crazy.
Sometimes I feel like the puddle jumpers I've been strapping on them forever, are actually hindering their ability to learn. When I was 5 I was all over the pool on my own. My parents never put floaties on me. I just was sort of forced into learning to swim, if you know what I mean.
I was just about to post something similar. How my son has been going to swim for almost two years and he is a bad swimmer. The swim program he's in is good but he just doesn't advance like others. I actually took him out for the summer. The classes made him more comfortable in the water and he is much better but I still have to be on him like a hawk even with two years of swimming. He just wants to goof around.
Sadly, accidents and tragedies like this happen even when you think you did everything right. It's sad and scary.
Eta: my son will swim the whole length of the pool in swim class well and then get in a regular pool and flounder/flop around.
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Posted 7/18/15 3:03 PM |
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kristin597
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Re: Swimming and Kids
Both my kids are in swimming lessons. My 4yr old ds jumped into my sisters pool last year not realizing he couldn't stand. He panicked and went under. It was a party, my husband thought I had him and vice versa. My sister saw him and jumped in and got him. It could have been tragic had she not. Even kids who can swim and have gotten lessons can drown. It takes a moment.
Someone mentioned the puddle jumper hindering learning. My sons coaches told us to put them in life jackets not puddle jumpers bc the puddle jumpers restrict arm motion which is necessary in swimming.
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Posted 7/18/15 3:18 PM |
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StaceyWill
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Re: Swimming and Kids
Posted by 2BadSoSad
Im sorry, this is SO inappropriate to post KNOWING the family of the parents of the little boy who lost his life is on this board. Of course it is the parents responsibility and not the lifeguards (which was mentioned in the other post, wonder where the LGs were, etc) but how insensitive to lecture people right now on whose job it is to prevent you kids from drowning based on recent events on here. Im not saying what your post is about isnt true or important just in poor taste given recent events. Sometimes, tragic ACCIDENTS happen, even to the best parents, have some tact.
Perfectly said!!
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Posted 7/18/15 3:50 PM |
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NewLeaf2012
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Re: Swimming and Kids
Posted by WonderLady
Posted by 2BadSoSad
Im sorry, this is SO inappropriate to post KNOWING the family of the parents of the little boy who lost his life is on this board. Of course it is the parents responsibility and not the lifeguards (which was mentioned in the other post, wonder where the LGs were, etc) but how insensitive to lecture people right now on whose job it is to prevent you kids from drowning based on recent events on here. Im not saying what your post is about isnt true or important just in poor taste given recent events.
I agree.
Also, just as an aside, I have had my kids in 2 sets of group swim lessons and they still don't know how to swim independently at 3 and 5. Private lessons for 2 kids, at like 30 bucks per lesson per week, is a little crazy.
Sometimes I feel like the puddle jumpers I've been strapping on them forever, are actually hindering their ability to learn. When I was 5 I was all over the pool on my own. My parents never put floaties on me. I just was sort of forced into learning to swim, if you know what I mean.
So I have to keep my 5 year old out of a pool because even with swim lessons, he can't swim... He is always within arms length of me in the pool. With or without floaties.
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Posted 7/18/15 9:29 PM |
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LizD
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Re: Swimming and Kids
my daughter is 11 and is on a swim team. She is an excellent swimmer. That being said, I still watch like a hawk when she is swimming. Even though she is such a good swimmer, if there is a pool party, I stay. No one, not another parent or a lifeguard is going to watch your child the way you do. Also, please keep in mind it's not just pools and the ocean/bay. I had a great nephew drown a few years ago in Colorado. They moved to a new complex that had a pool, fenced in, but also had a small man made water feature. I guess the thought of the water feature never crossed anyones mind. He was 7, a good swimmer, etc. But if they fall in somewhere and panic it does not matter how good they are at swimming. Besides the sides were slanted and he could not get out. It took two firemen to help another fireman out of it after they found him. I am overprotective and I know it and I do not apologize for I one bit!!
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Posted 7/19/15 7:28 AM |
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BigB
C & J are 10!

Member since 6/05 5914 total posts
Name: Stacey
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Re: Swimming and Kids
Posted by NewLeaf2012
Posted by WonderLady
Posted by 2BadSoSad
Im sorry, this is SO inappropriate to post KNOWING the family of the parents of the little boy who lost his life is on this board. Of course it is the parents responsibility and not the lifeguards (which was mentioned in the other post, wonder where the LGs were, etc) but how insensitive to lecture people right now on whose job it is to prevent you kids from drowning based on recent events on here. Im not saying what your post is about isnt true or important just in poor taste given recent events.
I agree.
Also, just as an aside, I have had my kids in 2 sets of group swim lessons and they still don't know how to swim independently at 3 and 5. Private lessons for 2 kids, at like 30 bucks per lesson per week, is a little crazy.
Sometimes I feel like the puddle jumpers I've been strapping on them forever, are actually hindering their ability to learn. When I was 5 I was all over the pool on my own. My parents never put floaties on me. I just was sort of forced into learning to swim, if you know what I mean.
So I have to keep my 5 year old out of a pool because even with swim lessons, he can't swim... He is always within arms length of me in the pool. With or without floaties.
I don't think it is insensitive at all...I think it is more then appropriate to remind folks of how the water is NO JOKE for non-swimmers and swimmers a like...We all think that it won't happen to us, but look it happens EVERY summer . Some neighborhood kids drowns in a neighbor's pool, a 21 yr old dies at Demi Moore's house, a kids dies in the ocean, and everyone justs says how terrible it is....and yes, it is, but it can be prevented.
And yes, If your child cannot swim or swim well enough, I think that they shouldn't be in the pool without proper on task supervision.
And, yes, swim lessons are expensive...but they are a necessity if you are going to be in water. Shoot, I am a terrible driver, hence I don't drive. I don't want to be responsible for harming anyone!
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Posted 7/19/15 9:48 PM |
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jteach
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Swimming and Kids
A 5 yr old girl drowned last night just a few blocks away from where I live.I ccan't stop thinking about it, about what her parents are doing and feeling at this very moment. I am sure they will forever blame themselves but its called an accident fir a reason. Like previous posters mentiined it can happen to the most vigilant of parents and a kid who CAN swim. Lets nit be so quick to judge. A good reminder to be super vigilant is welcome
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Posted 7/19/15 10:16 PM |
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WonderLady
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Re: Swimming and Kids
Posted by BigB
Posted by NewLeaf2012
Posted by WonderLady
Posted by 2BadSoSad
Im sorry, this is SO inappropriate to post KNOWING the family of the parents of the little boy who lost his life is on this board. Of course it is the parents responsibility and not the lifeguards (which was mentioned in the other post, wonder where the LGs were, etc) but how insensitive to lecture people right now on whose job it is to prevent you kids from drowning based on recent events on here. Im not saying what your post is about isnt true or important just in poor taste given recent events.
I agree.
Also, just as an aside, I have had my kids in 2 sets of group swim lessons and they still don't know how to swim independently at 3 and 5. Private lessons for 2 kids, at like 30 bucks per lesson per week, is a little crazy.
Sometimes I feel like the puddle jumpers I've been strapping on them forever, are actually hindering their ability to learn. When I was 5 I was all over the pool on my own. My parents never put floaties on me. I just was sort of forced into learning to swim, if you know what I mean.
So I have to keep my 5 year old out of a pool because even with swim lessons, he can't swim... He is always within arms length of me in the pool. With or without floaties.
I don't think it is insensitive at all...I think it is more then appropriate to remind folks of how the water is NO JOKE for non-swimmers and swimmers a like...We all think that it won't happen to us, but look it happens EVERY summer . Some neighborhood kids drowns in a neighbor's pool, a 21 yr old dies at Demi Moore's house, a kids dies in the ocean, and everyone justs says how terrible it is....and yes, it is, but it can be prevented.
And yes, If your child cannot swim or swim well enough, I think that they shouldn't be in the pool without proper on task supervision.
And, yes, swim lessons are expensive...but they are a necessity if you are going to be in water. Shoot, I am a terrible driver, hence I don't drive. I don't want to be responsible for harming anyone!
The tragedies serve to remind me about water safety- not this post.
And to say that "swim lessons are a necessity". Talk about first world problems...
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Posted 7/20/15 12:31 AM |
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klingklang77
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Re: Swimming and Kids
Posted by WonderLady
Posted by BigB
Posted by NewLeaf2012
Posted by WonderLady
Posted by 2BadSoSad
Im sorry, this is SO inappropriate to post KNOWING the family of the parents of the little boy who lost his life is on this board. Of course it is the parents responsibility and not the lifeguards (which was mentioned in the other post, wonder where the LGs were, etc) but how insensitive to lecture people right now on whose job it is to prevent you kids from drowning based on recent events on here. Im not saying what your post is about isnt true or important just in poor taste given recent events.
I agree.
Also, just as an aside, I have had my kids in 2 sets of group swim lessons and they still don't know how to swim independently at 3 and 5. Private lessons for 2 kids, at like 30 bucks per lesson per week, is a little crazy.
Sometimes I feel like the puddle jumpers I've been strapping on them forever, are actually hindering their ability to learn. When I was 5 I was all over the pool on my own. My parents never put floaties on me. I just was sort of forced into learning to swim, if you know what I mean.
So I have to keep my 5 year old out of a pool because even with swim lessons, he can't swim... He is always within arms length of me in the pool. With or without floaties.
I don't think it is insensitive at all...I think it is more then appropriate to remind folks of how the water is NO JOKE for non-swimmers and swimmers a like...We all think that it won't happen to us, but look it happens EVERY summer . Some neighborhood kids drowns in a neighbor's pool, a 21 yr old dies at Demi Moore's house, a kids dies in the ocean, and everyone justs says how terrible it is....and yes, it is, but it can be prevented.
And yes, If your child cannot swim or swim well enough, I think that they shouldn't be in the pool without proper on task supervision.
And, yes, swim lessons are expensive...but they are a necessity if you are going to be in water. Shoot, I am a terrible driver, hence I don't drive. I don't want to be responsible for harming anyone!
The tragedies serve to remind me about water safety- not this post.
And to say that "swim lessons are a necessity". Talk about first world problems...
I agree. There is someone on this board that lost their family mamber at the Disney drowning. Your soapbox is not at all helpful in this situation. It's judgmental and condescending.
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Posted 7/20/15 5:36 AM |
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MsSissy
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Re: Swimming and Kids
I agree with many of the PP. While the message you want to get across is an imporant one and I don't think anyone would argue that. It's the timing and the way you come across that could've been more sympathetic.
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Posted 7/20/15 6:51 AM |
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DaniJude
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Re: Swimming and Kids
I agree with many here.
Terrible timing.
Extremely insensitive.
Lacks so much empathy.
Please TRY and put yourself in their shoes for a moment... And I hope you wouldn't say, I can't put myself in their position bc that would never happen to me. Because the tone in your post sounds like that would be your response to that. Which is not true, anything could happen to anyone when it comes to children. It's so hard. They don't say all it takes is a second for nothing.
I honestly thought you were unaware of the fact that there is a poster on here who lost a loved one literally DAYS ago to a drowning... I figured you would say, I'm sorry, I didn't know, I was just upset since its summer and I'll edit it but you did not and that bothered me more.
That is why I posted. I waited to allow you the opportunity to do the right thing.
But now I feel like, if you were aware, then did you make the post in response to that?? Are you finger-wagging to those poor people??
I wish you'd reconsider and edit the post. I really wish you would have that level of sensitivity and grace.
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Posted 7/20/15 7:06 AM |
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DH were just talkin about swim lessons. I feel that they "should" be considered a necessity but year round lessons are $$$. I wish there was more $ assistance so kids can learn at a youger age. Not just parents who can afford $200 per month for lessons.
The town lessons that are offered that can be a little cheaper are only in summer and start at 4yo. Most kids can't learn to swim that quickly in such short period of time(summer) at such young age so they need lessons throughout the year. For my family growing up, it would have been unattainable for us to afford lessons.
I don't understand how one can be so flippant about stating parents should find a way to pay for these lessons. It's just not possible for many. I have also found that kids that have confidence in the water from lessons sometimes don't know their limitations in other pools. I saw 2 kids plucked out of the water yesterday by lifeguards at a public pool yesterday who seemed to have been swimming fine until they panicked in the deep end. So even lessons will not save all children. DD has been doing lessons for 2 years outside of her instructing pool she won't apply the skills.
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Posted 7/20/15 7:23 AM |
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Blubtrflygrl
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Re: Swimming and Kids
Not for nothing, but I've gotten lots of negative feedback about many of these swim lesson places on LI.
Like, half hour lesson where there are one or two instructors who play favorites amongst a not so small group of kids.
Not arguing that being a vigilant parent is not important, but I also don't think shelling out $$ for lessons is the answer either.
I eventually learned how to swim but under my parents supervision and not costly lessons.
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Posted 7/20/15 8:09 AM |
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