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AmyG13
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Re: Spinoff to Pro-Life/Pro-Choice: Do you think there is a difference between being Pro-Choice and Pro-Abortion?
Posted by shiv
My question is, what do you with all the rest. Should they just be allowed to abort whenever they want to because you continually support and vote for pro-choice?
Yes.
Don't you believe there should be some regulation around the circumstance of an abortion?
No.
Women should be able to decide what is best for themselves without having to justify it to anyone else.
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Re: Spinoff to Pro-Life/Pro-Choice: Do you think there is a difference between being Pro-Choice and Pro-Abortion?
Posted by shiv
Don't you believe there should be some regulation around the circumstance of an abortion?
No I don't...it is NOT the governments place to say who or why an abortion is okay
The person who uses abortion as a form of birth control will need to answer to that decision someday but it is still HER DECISION.
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Ang-Rich
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Re: Spinoff to Pro-Life/Pro-Choice: Do you think there is a difference between being Pro-Choice and Pro-Abortion?
Posted by shiv
My question is, what do you with all the rest. Should they just be allowed to abort whenever they want to because you continually support and vote for pro-choice? Don't you believe there should be some regulation around the circumstance of an abortion?
I didn't list what would be acceptable or not (and you did not say I did) but I wanted to reply.
I do not believe that the majority of abortions performed in this country happen under the scenario that you stated above - 'allowed whenever they want' but if you have factual information by an accredited organization to support that the majority of reported and/or performed abortions fall under this reasoning then I would respectfully like to see it. It would influence my opinion.
But since I have never come across anything to that effect, I believe that until one is faced with the decision, they can never really understand the situation. To judge someone and to come across as knowing better than them to make a decision for them, in my opinion, is wrong...equally wrong as the children left behind - unwanted, unloved and in some cases in very bad mental/physical/emotion states.
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JenMarie
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Re: Spinoff to Pro-Life/Pro-Choice: Do you think there is a difference between being Pro-Choice and Pro-Abortion?
Posted by stephanief
Posted by shiv
Don't you believe there should be some regulation around the circumstance of an abortion?
No I don't...it is NOT the governments place to say who or why an abortion is okay
The person who uses abortion as a form of birth control will need to answer to that decision someday but it is still HER DECISION.
See, to me this is like saying there should be no regulations around murder because the murderer will answer to their decision someday.
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pinkandblue
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Re: Spinoff to Pro-Life/Pro-Choice: Do you think there is a difference between being Pro-Choice and Pro-Abortion?
Posted by Jennifer907
Posted by stephanief
Posted by shiv
Don't you believe there should be some regulation around the circumstance of an abortion?
No I don't...it is NOT the governments place to say who or why an abortion is okay
The person who uses abortion as a form of birth control will need to answer to that decision someday but it is still HER DECISION.
See, to me this is like saying there should be no regulations around murder because the murderer will answer to their decision someday.
Murder is ILLEGAL, abortion is NOT....please stop comparing the two. I said that the government should not dictate who can have an abortion and under what circumstances. That is all I was trying to say.
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shiv
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Re: Spinoff to Pro-Life/Pro-Choice: Do you think there is a difference between being Pro-Choice and Pro-Abortion?
Posted by Ang-Rich
Posted by shiv
My question is, what do you with all the rest. Should they just be allowed to abort whenever they want to because you continually support and vote for pro-choice? Don't you believe there should be some regulation around the circumstance of an abortion?
I didn't list what would be acceptable or not (and you did not say I did) but I wanted to reply.
I do not believe that the majority of abortions performed in this country happen under the scenario that you stated above - 'allowed whenever they want' but if you have factual information by an accredited organization to support that the majority of reported and/or performed abortions fall under this reasoning then I would respectfully like to see it. It would influence my opinion.
But since I have never come across anything to that effect, I believe that until one is faced with the decision, they can never really understand the situation. To judge someone and to come across as knowing better than them to make a decision for them, in my opinion, is wrong...equally wrong as the children left behind - unwanted, unloved and in some cases in very bad mental/physical/emotion states.
I'm not sure what your asking. I was lumping all abortions other than for rape, incest, death of mother, into one category and speaking to those circumstances. The ones who accidentally get prego, who abort because it's not the right time, who believe they could not support or care for the child. There are so many organizations to help these people, they aren't in it alone. It won't be easy, but abortion is not the only choice.
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Ophelia
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Re: Spinoff to Pro-Life/Pro-Choice: Do you think there is a difference between being Pro-Choice and Pro-Abortion?
Posted by Ang-Rich
Posted by shiv
My question is, what do you with all the rest. Should they just be allowed to abort whenever they want to because you continually support and vote for pro-choice? Don't you believe there should be some regulation around the circumstance of an abortion?
I didn't list what would be acceptable or not (and you did not say I did) but I wanted to reply.
I do not believe that the majority of abortions performed in this country happen under the scenario that you stated above - 'allowed whenever they want' but if you have factual information by an accredited organization to support that the majority of reported and/or performed abortions fall under this reasoning then I would respectfully like to see it. It would influence my opinion.
But since I have never come across anything to that effect, I believe that until one is faced with the decision, they can never really understand the situation. To judge someone and to come across as knowing better than them to make a decision for them, in my opinion, is wrong...equally wrong as the children left behind - unwanted, unloved and in some cases in very bad mental/physical/emotion states.
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Ang-Rich
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Re: Spinoff to Pro-Life/Pro-Choice: Do you think there is a difference between being Pro-Choice and Pro-Abortion?
Posted by shiv
Posted by Ang-Rich
Posted by shiv
My question is, what do you with all the rest. Should they just be allowed to abort whenever they want to because you continually support and vote for pro-choice? Don't you believe there should be some regulation around the circumstance of an abortion?
I didn't list what would be acceptable or not (and you did not say I did) but I wanted to reply.
I do not believe that the majority of abortions performed in this country happen under the scenario that you stated above - 'allowed whenever they want' but if you have factual information by an accredited organization to support that the majority of reported and/or performed abortions fall under this reasoning then I would respectfully like to see it. It would influence my opinion.
But since I have never come across anything to that effect, I believe that until one is faced with the decision, they can never really understand the situation. To judge someone and to come across as knowing better than them to make a decision for them, in my opinion, is wrong...equally wrong as the children left behind - unwanted, unloved and in some cases in very bad mental/physical/emotion states.
I'm not sure what your asking. I was lumping all abortions other than for rape, incest, death of mother, into one category and speaking to those circumstances. The ones who accidentally get prego, who abort because it's not the right time, who believe they could not support or care for the child. There are so many organizations to help these people, they aren't in it alone. It won't be easy, but abortion is not the only choice.
You had asked if the people outside of rape, incest, etc be allowed to "abort whenever they want to " and my question to you was where is the information to support that people abort whenever they want to? How many women have had more than one abortion in the group you single out? How do you know what their reasons are? We could go back and forth and make a list of what is acceptable but who are we to decide that? I decide for myself and only myself - I do not presume to know better for you or for anyone else...that's your choice.
And as for the comment about the organizations that help these women..where are they? The ones that are underfunded and overwhelmed and can't keep every child out of the foster system...they can't be at every hospital to take an abused child...the can't be at ever scene to stop an unfortunate incident.
I agree...abortion is not the only choice and I do not believe that everyone looks at it that way.
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Ophelia
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Re: Spinoff to Pro-Life/Pro-Choice: Do you think there is a difference between being Pro-Choice and Pro-Abortion?
Posted by shiv
I'm not sure what your asking. I was lumping all abortions other than for rape, incest, death of mother, into one category and speaking to those circumstances. The ones who accidentally get prego, who abort because it's not the right time, who believe they could not support or care for the child. There are so many organizations to help these people, they aren't in it alone. It won't be easy, but abortion is not the only choice.
you are making me sad for every woman who has ever been in the position. ever sat in the chair, crying. ever looked at a baby after and felt that guilt...but MADE THEIR DECISION BASED ON WHAT WAS RIGHT.
any woman that is reading this, and sees something so painful lumped into a vast catergory...a horrid stereotype...a PERSONAL PAIN you know nothing about, and yet spit on it, with every salt laden word you type.
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pinkandblue
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Re: Spinoff to Pro-Life/Pro-Choice: Do you think there is a difference between being Pro-Choice and Pro-Abortion?
Posted by Ophelia
Posted by shiv
I'm not sure what your asking. I was lumping all abortions other than for rape, incest, death of mother, into one category and speaking to those circumstances. The ones who accidentally get prego, who abort because it's not the right time, who believe they could not support or care for the child. There are so many organizations to help these people, they aren't in it alone. It won't be easy, but abortion is not the only choice.
you are making me sad for every woman who has ever been in the position. ever sat in the chair, crying. ever looked at a baby after and felt that guilt...but MADE THEIR DECISION BASED ON WHAT WAS RIGHT.
any woman that is reading this, and sees something so painful lumped into a vast catergory...a horrid stereotype...a PERSONAL PAIN you know nothing about, and yet spit on it, with every salt laden word you type.
VERY well stated....it is so easy to judge when you are not in the situation isn't it.......
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smdl
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Re: Spinoff to Pro-Life/Pro-Choice: Do you think there is a difference between being Pro-Choice and Pro-Abortion?
Posted by shiv
Since no other pro-lifers are chiming in here, I will state that I agree most pro-choicers are not for abortions. But many of you (not all) have said that if a women is raped, incest, etc. than she should have the right to have an abortion. That makes a very very small % of the population of abortions.
My question is, what do you with all the rest. Should they just be allowed to abort whenever they want to because you continually support and vote for pro-choice? Don't you believe there should be some regulation around the circumstance of an abortion?
I wil be VERY honest here.
DH and I are "older" 1st parent. We both don't believe in abortion as a form of birth control. We both wanted a child since we had not been able to until late in our 30's. So we were thrilled when we found out I was PG and we both love DS. Thrilled that we were able to finally have a child.
That being said, we agreed on an amnio and YES I would have terminated the pregnancy if DS had down syndrome or CP. That's sad but true. That was OUR decision. Because in the end, ONLY DH and I would have a responsibility toward the child, would have to raise him/her. And you know what. What would happen to this child when we are old and die? We are already older parents/ Who would take care of him/her? Yes, we could die tomorrow but let's be honest. You alwasy feel like it would be a "burden" to have to place a child in someone's family to take care of a child. But just imagine what it would be with a child with disability. We don't have any family member. My mom is already 60 and overseas.
Yes, it's sounds horrible but that's the truth. We both have a responsibility to our child and her/his future.
Am I for abortion? No. Would I have an abortion if I was to have an unplanned pregnancy? No. But again this is MY situation.
I think it's easy to say for other people to tell you how horrible and a murderer you are when they are not in your situation neither will they take care of the child.
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shiv
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Re: Spinoff to Pro-Life/Pro-Choice: Do you think there is a difference between being Pro-Choice and Pro-Abortion?
Posted by Ang-Rich
I do not believe that the majority of abortions performed in this country happen under the scenario that you stated above - 'allowed whenever they want' but if you have factual information by an accredited organization to support that the majority of reported and/or performed abortions fall under this reasoning then I would respectfully like to see it. It would influence my opinion.
Do mean where i know the % of abortions from rape, incest, risk to mother is very low? I've known that for years from being a pro-life advocate . But here is a copy and link to wikipedia which talks about it
Reasons for abortions
In 2000, cases of rape or incest accounted for 1% of abortions.
Another study, in 1998, revealed that women reported the following reasons for choosing an abortion:
25.5% Want to postpone childbearing
21.3% Cannot afford a baby
14.1% Has relationship problem or partner does not want pregnancy
12.2% Too young; parent(s) or other(s) object to pregnancy
10.8% Having a child will disrupt education or job
7.9% Want no (more) children
3.3% Risk to fetal health
2.8% Risk to maternal health
2.1% Other
Wiki link
ETF: spelling
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MarisaK
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Re: Spinoff to Pro-Life/Pro-Choice: Do you think there is a difference between being Pro-Choice and Pro-Abortion?
I have a question - for those who are Ok with a woman's right to choose ONLY in the case of Rape, Incest etc.........
Did it ever occur to anyone HOW LONG it would take for a woman to prove she was the victim of one of these crimes?
What would the law require of her?
HOW many women would become SO desperate to abort their pregnancies that they would consider ruining the life of an innocent man by claiming rape or incest?
Who draws the lines? Who makes the final decisions? By the time something like this played out in court the unwatned child could be 10 years old !! -
Just a thought ...........
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Baby2love
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Re: Spinoff to Pro-Life/Pro-Choice: Do you think there is a difference between being Pro-Choice and Pro-Abortion?
Yes- I DO NOT believe saying that you believe in giving a woman a choice is saying you are pro-abortion.
They have done studies(Newsweek recent article) that found HIGHER abortion rates in countries where it was illegal. Here in America, our rates are actually pretty low. All that making it legal does is make sure that woman are not butchered by back alley doctors.
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pinkandblue
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Re: Spinoff to Pro-Life/Pro-Choice: Do you think there is a difference between being Pro-Choice and Pro-Abortion?
Posted by shiv
Posted by Ang-Rich
I do not believe that the majority of abortions performed in this country happen under the scenario that you stated above - 'allowed whenever they want' but if you have factual information by an accredited organization to support that the majority of reported and/or performed abortions fall under this reasoning then I would respectfully like to see it. It would influence my opinion.
Do mean where i know that the % of abortions from rape, incest, risk to mother is very low? I've known that for years from being part a pro-life advocate for many years. But here is a copy and link to wikipedia which talks about it
Reasons for abortions
In 2000, cases of rape or incest accounted for 1% of abortions.
Another study, in 1998, revealed that women reported the following reasons for choosing an abortion:[b]
25.5% Want to postpone childbearing
21.3% Cannot afford a baby
14.1% Has relationship problem or partner does not want pregnancy
12.2% Too young; parent(s) or other(s) object to pregnancy
10.8% Having a child will disrupt education or job
7.9% Want no (more) children
3.3% Risk to fetal health
2.8% Risk to maternal health
2.1% Other
Wiki link
but who are we, who are you to judge anyone's reasoning???? What if they are in an abusive relationship and the father threathens to kill the mom if she does not have an abortion? What about the young girl who is not MENTALLY ready to be a mom.....no one should be FORCED to have a baby or carry a baby to term and give it up for adoption. The last thing I want is the GOVERNMENT deciding what "I" can do with my body...that is a scary thought
eta - not sure why this is bolded 
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Ang-Rich
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Re: Spinoff to Pro-Life/Pro-Choice: Do you think there is a difference between being Pro-Choice and Pro-Abortion?
Posted by shiv
Posted by Ang-Rich
I do not believe that the majority of abortions performed in this country happen under the scenario that you stated above - 'allowed whenever they want' but if you have factual information by an accredited organization to support that the majority of reported and/or performed abortions fall under this reasoning then I would respectfully like to see it. It would influence my opinion.
Do mean where i know that the % of abortions from rape, incest, risk to mother is very low? I've known that for years from being part a pro-life advocate for many years. But here is a copy and link to wikipedia which talks about it
Reasons for abortions
In 2000, cases of rape or incest accounted for 1% of abortions.
Another study, in 1998, revealed that women reported the following reasons for choosing an abortion:[b]
25.5% Want to postpone childbearing
21.3% Cannot afford a baby
14.1% Has relationship problem or partner does not want pregnancy
12.2% Too young; parent(s) or other(s) object to pregnancy
10.8% Having a child will disrupt education or job
7.9% Want no (more) children
3.3% Risk to fetal health
2.8% Risk to maternal health
2.1% Other
Wiki link
I appreciate this information but I was looking for facts that come from accredited medical associations...I have to do more research but Wink cites Guttmacher.org as it's source...that makes me Plus the data is from 1998 - 10 years old.
But my question was how do you know that people 'abort whenever they want to'?
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JenMarie
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Re: Spinoff to Pro-Life/Pro-Choice: Do you think there is a difference between being Pro-Choice and Pro-Abortion?
Posted by shiv
Posted by Ang-Rich
I do not believe that the majority of abortions performed in this country happen under the scenario that you stated above - 'allowed whenever they want' but if you have factual information by an accredited organization to support that the majority of reported and/or performed abortions fall under this reasoning then I would respectfully like to see it. It would influence my opinion.
Here's a link to a study that shows unwanted pregnancy as the top reasons for abortion. The table is on page 4. Link
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eroxgirl
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Re: Spinoff to Pro-Life/Pro-Choice: Do you think there is a difference between being Pro-Choice and Pro-Abortion?
Posted by shiv
Do mean where i know that the % of abortions from rape, incest, risk to mother is very low? I've known that for years from being part a pro-life advocate for many years. But here is a copy and link to wikipedia which talks about it
Reasons for abortions
In 2000, cases of rape or incest accounted for 1% of abortions.
Another study, in 1998, revealed that women reported the following reasons for choosing an abortion:
25.5% Want to postpone childbearing
21.3% Cannot afford a baby
14.1% Has relationship problem or partner does not want pregnancy
12.2% Too young; parent(s) or other(s) object to pregnancy
10.8% Having a child will disrupt education or job
7.9% Want no (more) children
3.3% Risk to fetal health
2.8% Risk to maternal health
2.1% Other
Wiki link
I honestly don't have a problem with these reasons for aborting. To me, the largest groups are of people saying "I can't adequately care for/love/support this child." And I think that is FAR FAR better than those who are too selfish to make the choice to abort and deal with the pain of aborting, and then in turn abuse the child or mistreat the child.
I would rather be unborn than unloved.
I'll always be pro-choice.
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shiv
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Re: Spinoff to Pro-Life/Pro-Choice: Do you think there is a difference between being Pro-Choice and Pro-Abortion?
Posted by Ophelia
Posted by shiv
I'm not sure what your asking. I was lumping all abortions other than for rape, incest, death of mother, into one category and speaking to those circumstances. The ones who accidentally get prego, who abort because it's not the right time, who believe they could not support or care for the child. There are so many organizations to help these people, they aren't in it alone. It won't be easy, but abortion is not the only choice.
you are making me sad for every woman who has ever been in the position. ever sat in the chair, crying. ever looked at a baby after and felt that guilt...but MADE THEIR DECISION BASED ON WHAT WAS RIGHT.
any woman that is reading this, and sees something so painful lumped into a vast catergory...a horrid stereotype...a PERSONAL PAIN you know nothing about, and yet spit on it, with every salt laden word you type.
WOW that's being a little ridiculous don't you think? Do you think i'm some kind of monster becasue I want to protect those children from the fate of an abortion? That I want these women to know that there are people to help them through this, that they are not alone? I don't just preach, I am out there helping. Giving these helpless women and their children a chance. We are doing what we can so that there is no reason why a women should feel she has to abort her child and go through that pain.
etf: spelling
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pinkandblue
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Re: Spinoff to Pro-Life/Pro-Choice: Do you think there is a difference between being Pro-Choice and Pro-Abortion?
Posted by shiv
Posted by Ophelia
Posted by shiv
I'm not sure what your asking. I was lumping all abortions other than for rape, incest, death of mother, into one category and speaking to those circumstances. The ones who accidentally get prego, who abort because it's not the right time, who believe they could not support or care for the child. There are so many organizations to help these people, they aren't in it alone. It won't be easy, but abortion is not the only choice.
you are making me sad for every woman who has ever been in the position. ever sat in the chair, crying. ever looked at a baby after and felt that guilt...but MADE THEIR DECISION BASED ON WHAT WAS RIGHT.
any woman that is reading this, and sees something so painful lumped into a vast catergory...a horrid stereotype...a PERSONAL PAIN you know nothing about, and yet spit on it, with every salt laden word you type.
WOW that's being a little ridiculous don't you think? Do you think i'm some kind of monster becasue I want to protect those children from the fate of an abortion? That I want these women to know that there are people to help them through this, that they are not alone? I don't just preach, I am out there helping. Giving these helpless women and their children a chance. We are doing what we can so that there is no reason why a women should feel she has to abort her child and go through that pain.
etf: spelling
I appreciate what you are doing to help. I do not think you are a monster...you are passionate about your beliefs as I am about the RIGHT to choose to abort.
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smdl
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Re: Spinoff to Pro-Life/Pro-Choice: Do you think there is a difference between being Pro-Choice and Pro-Abortion?
Posted by MarisaK
I have a question - for those who are Ok with a woman's right to choose ONLY in the case of Rape, Incest etc.........
Did it ever occur to anyone HOW LONG it would take for a woman to prove she was the victim of one of these crimes?
What would the law require of her?
HOW many women would become SO desperate to abort their pregnancies that they would consider ruining the life of an innocent man by claiming rape or incest?
Who draws the lines? Who makes the final decisions? By the time something like this played out in court the unwatned child could be 10 years old !! -
Just a thought ...........
Everybody's opinion is going to be different.
Mine: pro-choice
BUT
- timeframe on how advanced in the pregnancy it can be done for a healthy child: after that, there are adoption option
- Consideration of mother's health and babies
- Some babies born have such disabilities that they will die and live in pain.
For all the example of pro-life, there are the examples of parents who have had to carry a child to term knowing the child would die and in pain once born. That is a torture for a parent! I hope you never have to talk to one of this parents. I met 2 of them. It would bring you to tears. They all wished they had known better and had a choice to terminate.
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Re: Spinoff to Pro-Life/Pro-Choice: Do you think there is a difference between being Pro-Choice and Pro-Abortion?
Wrong thread.
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Ang-Rich
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Re: Spinoff to Pro-Life/Pro-Choice: Do you think there is a difference between being Pro-Choice and Pro-Abortion?
Posted by Jennifer907
Posted by shiv
Posted by Ang-Rich
I do not believe that the majority of abortions performed in this country happen under the scenario that you stated above - 'allowed whenever they want' but if you have factual information by an accredited organization to support that the majority of reported and/or performed abortions fall under this reasoning then I would respectfully like to see it. It would influence my opinion.
Here's a link to a study that shows unwanted pregnancy as the top reasons for abortion. The table is on page 4. Link
Thank you for the link but I have to say I am concerned by this statement:
In 2004, a structured survey was completed by 1,209 abortion patients at 11 large providers, and in-depth
interviews were conducted with 38 women at four sites. Bivariate analyses examined differences in the reasons for
abortion across subgroups, and multivariate logistic regression models assessed associations between respondent characteristics and reported reasons.
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MarisaK
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Re: Spinoff to Pro-Life/Pro-Choice: Do you think there is a difference between being Pro-Choice and Pro-Abortion?
Posted by smdl
Posted by MarisaK
I have a question - for those who are Ok with a woman's right to choose ONLY in the case of Rape, Incest etc.........
Did it ever occur to anyone HOW LONG it would take for a woman to prove she was the victim of one of these crimes?
What would the law require of her?
HOW many women would become SO desperate to abort their pregnancies that they would consider ruining the life of an innocent man by claiming rape or incest?
Who draws the lines? Who makes the final decisions? By the time something like this played out in court the unwatned child could be 10 years old !! -
Just a thought ...........
Everybody's opinion is going to be different.
Mine: pro-choice
BUT
- timeframe on how advanced in the pregnancy it can be done for a healthy child: after that, there are adoption option
- Consideration of mother's health and babies
- Some babies born have such disabilities that they will die and live in pain.
For all the example of pro-life, there are the examples of parents who have had to carry a child to term knowing the child would die and in pain once born. That is a torture for a parent! I hope you never have to talk to one of this parents. I met 2 of them. It would bring you to tears. They all wished they had known better and had a choice to terminate.
I understand everyone's opinion will be totally different.......but how did you answer my original question?
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| Posted 6/10/08 3:05 PM |
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Ang-Rich
Beyond Compare
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Re: Spinoff to Pro-Life/Pro-Choice: Do you think there is a difference between being Pro-Choice and Pro-Abortion?
Message edited 6/10/2008 3:15:51 PM.
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| Posted 6/10/08 3:13 PM |
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