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ANewDayHasCome
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Spinoff to mall shooting...the victims
Police identified the dead employees as Brianna Benlolo, 21, of College Park, Maryland, and Tyler Johnson, 25, of Ellicott City, Maryland. Both worked at Zumiez, a shop that caters to skaters, where the shootings took place.
She had a young son! So sad......
Supposedly the shooter was contained to just that store and he came from the back area or dressing room.
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Re: Spinoff to mall shooting...the victims
So sad. My brother lives in the area and he said the local news reported that the shooter was the ex of the woman and the man was her new boyfriend. So so incredibly sad.
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| Posted 1/25/14 7:02 PM |
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Ltdentway99
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Re: Spinoff to mall shooting...the victims
I seriously hate this! There should be laws enacted that if you shoot up a mall, school or workplace, automatic death penalty.
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| Posted 1/25/14 8:34 PM |
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jax1023
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Re: Spinoff to mall shooting...the victims
Posted by Saphire01
I seriously hate this! There should be laws enacted that if you shoot up a mall, school or workplace, automatic death penalty.
Except that you know most of them kill themselves in the end, so the death penalty can't really be enforced. Or isn't much of a deterent.
I honestly think that the news is part of the problem. Two people get shot at a mall in a domestic dispute, it's national news. Two people get shot in their apartment in a domestic dispute, your never hear of it in all likelihood. I think so much of the attention may spur on those that are already unstable. That and stricter gun laws.
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| Posted 1/25/14 8:39 PM |
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Re: Spinoff to mall shooting...the victims
I don't think the media is the problem. We've somehow ended up with a generation of young men who do not know how to deal with their feelings- whether it's parenting-related or due to mental illness- and are too easily able to get their hands on guns. It seems the shooter had a lot of ammo on him- it could have been so much worse.
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| Posted 1/25/14 9:02 PM |
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jax1023
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Re: Spinoff to mall shooting...the victims
Posted by MrsProfessor
I don't think the media is the problem. We've somehow ended up with a generation of young men who do not know how to deal with their feelings- whether it's parenting-related or due to mental illness- and are too easily able to get their hands on guns. It seems the shooter had a lot of ammo on him- it could have been so much worse.
Oh, it's not the only problem. The access to guns and large quantities of ammo is the problem. But I don't think all the publicity helps. I think some of these people are mentally ill and want to go down in a blaze of glory. And know they can get it this way.
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| Posted 1/25/14 9:17 PM |
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Re: Spinoff to mall shooting...the victims
I am from that area, and had an ex-coworker and friend in the mall. She is fine, just has to shelter in place a long time. The shooter was obviously planning on going out regardless, the police were there within minutes so I'm sure he knew if he didn't kill himself, he'd be taken out. Today they are are reporting he had explosives in his backpack as well. I don't know what the answer is. MD has very strict gun laws, and some people are saying if people were allowed to carry guns they could have stopped him. That seems pretty stupid and simplistic as we would have no idea what was going on in his head. There were other injuries involved with escaping and one woman not in the store was shot in the foot. It is a beautiful upscale mall with a Nordstroms, an ice rink, and a merry go round. I'm sure many families were there after being stuck inside during the snow. So scary all around!
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| Posted 1/26/14 8:40 AM |
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Ltdentway99
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Re: Spinoff to mall shooting...the victims
Posted by jax1023
Posted by Saphire01
I seriously hate this! There should be laws enacted that if you shoot up a mall, school or workplace, automatic death penalty.
Except that you know most of them kill themselves in the end, so the death penalty can't really be enforced. Or isn't much of a deterent.
I honestly think that the news is part of the problem. Two people get shot at a mall in a domestic dispute, it's national news. Two people get shot in their apartment in a domestic dispute, your never hear of it in all likelihood. I think so much of the attention may spur on those that are already unstable. That and stricter gun laws.
It is true that most of them kill themselves. Something needs to be done, though. Gun control is necessary, but never works. States with the strictest gun control laws have more shootings. I guess the only thing to do is have undercover armed guards who carry.
There was a shooting in a mall in Colorado a few weeks ago that was only stopped by a mall shopper who happened to carry. The only way to stop a shooter is with a trained shooter.
Message edited 1/26/2014 9:05:00 AM.
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| Posted 1/26/14 9:01 AM |
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LemonHead
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Spinoff to mall shooting...the victims
I don't believe gun control is the answer. I don't know what the answer is, but I think someone who is crazy enough to enact a mad shooting is going to get his hands on a gun regardless. Criminals don't pay attention to gun laws! Violent video games and movies are considered entertainment in this culture. A whole generation of young men are being raised on this stuff, and as a result are completely desensitized to all of it. Most of these guys fit a profile- lonely, unstable guys who are within a certain age bracket.
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| Posted 1/26/14 10:45 AM |
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Re: Spinoff to mall shooting...the victims
Posted by LemonHead
I don't believe gun control is the answer. I don't know what the answer is, but I think someone who is crazy enough to enact a mad shooting is going to get his hands on a gun regardless. Criminals don't pay attention to gun laws! Violent video games and movies are considered entertainment in this culture. A whole generation of young men are being raised on this stuff, and as a result are completely desensitized to all of it. Most of these guys fit a profile- lonely, unstable guys who are within a certain age bracket.
Maybe its not, but it certainly doesnt hurt to try. So we try, it doesn't work but at least we tried.
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| Posted 1/26/14 10:47 AM |
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Spinoff to mall shooting...the victims
I know this sounds horrible.... but, I wish they would just skip to the part where they just kill themselves. They're so unhappy, leave the innocent people out of it.
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| Posted 1/26/14 10:50 AM |
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Re: Spinoff to mall shooting...the victims
Posted by jax1023
Posted by Saphire01
I seriously hate this! There should be laws enacted that if you shoot up a mall, school or workplace, automatic death penalty.
Except that you know most of them kill themselves in the end, so the death penalty can't really be enforced. Or isn't much of a deterent.
I honestly think that the news is part of the problem. Two people get shot at a mall in a domestic dispute, it's national news. Two people get shot in their apartment in a domestic dispute, your never hear of it in all likelihood. I think so much of the attention may spur on those that are already unstable. That and stricter gun laws.
ITA!
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| Posted 1/27/14 1:11 PM |
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ElizaRags35
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Re: Spinoff to mall shooting...the victims
Posted by 2BadSoSad
Posted by LemonHead
I don't believe gun control is the answer. I don't know what the answer is, but I think someone who is crazy enough to enact a mad shooting is going to get his hands on a gun regardless. Criminals don't pay attention to gun laws! Violent video games and movies are considered entertainment in this culture. A whole generation of young men are being raised on this stuff, and as a result are completely desensitized to all of it. Most of these guys fit a profile- lonely, unstable guys who are within a certain age bracket.
Maybe its not, but it certainly doesnt hurt to try. So we try, it doesn't work but at least we tried.
I completely agree. I think video games and the media are being used as a scapegoat for a much bigger problem.
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| Posted 1/27/14 1:32 PM |
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Posted by LemonHead
I don't believe gun control is the answer. I don't know what the answer is, but I think someone who is crazy enough to enact a mad shooting is going to get his hands on a gun regardless. Criminals don't pay attention to gun laws! Violent video games and movies are considered entertainment in this culture. A whole generation of young men are being raised on this stuff, and as a result are completely desensitized to all of it. Most of these guys fit a profile- lonely, unstable guys who are within a certain age bracket.
 I agree with this. We need better mental health resources and parents who are paying better attention to the stuff they are letting their children be exposed to regularly.
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Re: Spinoff to mall shooting...the victims
Posted by MrsDamonSalv7319
Posted by LemonHead
I don't believe gun control is the answer. I don't know what the answer is, but I think someone who is crazy enough to enact a mad shooting is going to get his hands on a gun regardless. Criminals don't pay attention to gun laws! Violent video games and movies are considered entertainment in this culture. A whole generation of young men are being raised on this stuff, and as a result are completely desensitized to all of it. Most of these guys fit a profile- lonely, unstable guys who are within a certain age bracket.
I agree with this. We need better mental health resources and parents who are paying better attention to the stuff they are letting their children be exposed to regularly.
I disagree with the idea that stricter gun controls are not needed. Of course we should certainly have better mental health services, but the culture that we have in this country with regard to guns is unparalleled.
This is an interesting article on how the UK responded to the massacre at Dunblane:
Time Magazine article about the UK's response to a massacre similar to Newtown
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| Posted 1/27/14 1:59 PM |
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Re: Spinoff to mall shooting...the victims
Posted by blustar214
Posted by MrsDamonSalv7319
Posted by LemonHead
I don't believe gun control is the answer. I don't know what the answer is, but I think someone who is crazy enough to enact a mad shooting is going to get his hands on a gun regardless. Criminals don't pay attention to gun laws! Violent video games and movies are considered entertainment in this culture. A whole generation of young men are being raised on this stuff, and as a result are completely desensitized to all of it. Most of these guys fit a profile- lonely, unstable guys who are within a certain age bracket.
I agree with this. We need better mental health resources and parents who are paying better attention to the stuff they are letting their children be exposed to regularly.
I disagree with the idea that stricter gun controls are not needed. Of course we should certainly have better mental health services, but the culture that we have in this country with regard to guns is unparalleled.
This is an interesting article on how the UK responded to the massacre at Dunblane:
Time Magazine article about the UK's response to a massacre similar to Newtown
I didn't say they aren't needed anywhere in my post- I said that I don't believe that is the answer. Obviously something needs to change, and I am not sure what it is.
There is undoubtably a thriving gun culture in this country, however, there are millions of responsible gun owners who go about their daily lives without shooting up malls, schools, or other public places.
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| Posted 1/27/14 6:04 PM |
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ElizaRags35
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Re: Spinoff to mall shooting...the victims
Posted by LemonHead
There is undoubtably a thriving gun culture in this country, however, there are millions of responsible gun owners who go about their daily lives without shooting up malls, schools, or other public places.
Yes there are. But there are also millions of responsible car owners who are required to have insurance, take driving tests, go for frequent renewals, get their cars inspected, etc. Why can't responsible gun owners go through extensive background checks? No one is saying they can't own a gun. Just prove your responsible. I don't think it's asking too much at all.
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Posted by ElizaRags35
Posted by LemonHead
There is undoubtably a thriving gun culture in this country, however, there are millions of responsible gun owners who go about their daily lives without shooting up malls, schools, or other public places.
Yes there are. But there are also millions of responsible car owners who are required to have insurance, take driving tests, go for frequent renewals, get their cars inspected, etc. Why can't responsible gun owners go through extensive background checks? No one is saying they can't own a gun. Just prove your responsible. I don't think it's asking too much at all.
ITA. I can't believe people don't think our gun culture and easy access to guns isn't part of the problem. You don't hear about these things happening as often in other countries because they have stricter laws. Australia made major changes after the 1996 Port Arthur massacre, where 35 people were killed. But mental health is also a huge issue- and it seems to me that the NRA is not overly concerned about the mentally ill getting guns.
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