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Redhead
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Re: Spinoff - Should convicted Rapists be Castrated??
hmm...you may be right...
i don't know that either...i just thought that it was prevention of ones sex drive/urge
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Lichi
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Re: Spinoff - Should convicted Rapists be Castrated??
Should theives have their hands cut off?
I voted no.
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| Posted 9/14/05 11:36 AM |
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Redhead
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Re: Spinoff - Should convicted Rapists be Castrated??
Posted by Lichi
Should theives have their hands cut off?
I voted no.
Do i think murderers should have their hands chopped off......YES 
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| Posted 9/14/05 11:38 AM |
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unknown1
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Re: Spinoff - Should convicted Rapists be Castrated??
Posted by MrsERod
Posted by MrsTC
no....i think that is inhumane and barbaric.
eta- i KNOW what they did is awful but castration seems extreme.
so is raping innocent victims....i know you said you realize the crime is awful.....
but let the punishment fit the crime...thats my opinion.
I agree
Barbaric Crimes deserve Barbaric punishments !
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| Posted 9/14/05 11:43 AM |
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unknown1
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Re: Spinoff - Should convicted Rapists be Castrated??
Posted by Redhead
Posted by Lichi
Should theives have their hands cut off?
I voted no.
Do i think murderers should have their hands chopped off......YES
So do I ... 
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| Posted 9/14/05 11:43 AM |
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-Lisa-
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Re: Spinoff - Should convicted Rapists be Castrated??
I'd say no, not because they don't deserve it, but what about those wrongly convicted?
Innocent people have been convicted of rape charges, only to later be released and proven innocent.
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| Posted 9/14/05 11:45 AM |
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CaseyGirl
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Re: Spinoff - Should convicted Rapists be Castrated??
Posted by unbelievable
Posted by MrsERod
Posted by MrsTC
no....i think that is inhumane and barbaric.
eta- i KNOW what they did is awful but castration seems extreme.
so is raping innocent victims....i know you said you realize the crime is awful.....
but let the punishment fit the crime...thats my opinion.
I agree
Barbaric Crimes deserve Barbaric punishments !
but this isn't the dark ages!!!!
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| Posted 9/14/05 11:46 AM |
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Redhead
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Re: Spinoff - Should convicted Rapists be Castrated??
Posted by -Lisa-
I'd say no, not because they don't deserve it, but what about those wrongly convicted?
Innocent people have been convicted of rape charges, only to later be released and proven innocent.
I have to say i don't think that someone should be castrated on first offense...
But to the people that are repeat offenders....
well they aren't likely to be ones of wrongful conviction
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| Posted 9/14/05 11:48 AM |
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Redhead
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Re: Spinoff - Should convicted Rapists be Castrated??
Posted by MrsTC
Posted by unbelievable
Posted by MrsERod
Posted by MrsTC
no....i think that is inhumane and barbaric.
eta- i KNOW what they did is awful but castration seems extreme.
so is raping innocent victims....i know you said you realize the crime is awful.....
but let the punishment fit the crime...thats my opinion.
I agree
Barbaric Crimes deserve Barbaric punishments !
but this isn't the dark ages!!!!
NO it isn't...and chemical castration is something law makers are seriously considering for pedofiles.....
So i welcome the darkness
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| Posted 9/14/05 11:49 AM |
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unknown1
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Re: Spinoff - Should convicted Rapists be Castrated??
Posted by MrsTC
Posted by unbelievable
Posted by MrsERod
Posted by MrsTC
no....i think that is inhumane and barbaric.
eta- i KNOW what they did is awful but castration seems extreme.
so is raping innocent victims....i know you said you realize the crime is awful.....
but let the punishment fit the crime...thats my opinion.
I agree
Barbaric Crimes deserve Barbaric punishments !
but this isn't the dark ages!!!!
I undertand that but maybe we should go back. Less crime back then ... I mean what are we doing really throwing them in jail wasting peoples money to provide for them trust me most are use to that life I am sure they are not first time offenders so maybe we need to step it up a notch and fitting punishment to the crime.
Message edited 9/14/2005 11:50:33 AM.
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| Posted 9/14/05 11:49 AM |
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Erica
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Re: Spinoff - Should convicted Rapists be Castrated??
Posted by Redhead
Posted by Lilith
Red - I think all executions are cruel IMO
yea that is where we disagree...
i think that they are necessary
I totally understand why people are pro-capital punishment. Its just not my school of thought.
I see it more the way Lisa does, I'd hate to be the innocent that suffered (although castration wouldn't affect me ). I'd rather see a guilty man free than an innocent man in jail, but that's my bleeding heart and thankfully I have not (nor have my close friends or family) been in a situation that might change this view point.
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| Posted 9/14/05 11:50 AM |
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unknown1
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Re: Spinoff - Should convicted Rapists be Castrated??
Posted by Lilith
Posted by Redhead
Posted by Lilith
Red - I think all executions are cruel IMO
yea that is where we disagree...
i think that they are necessary
I totally understand why people are pro-capital punishment. Its just not my school of thought.
I see it more the way Lisa does, I'd hate to be the innocent that suffered (although castration wouldn't affect me ). I'd rather see a guilty man free than an innocent man in jail, but that's my bleeding heart and thankfully I have not (nor have my close friends or family) been in a situation that might change this view point.
I see your point as far as being innocent but how would you get into that position ? Why would you have been a suspect?
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| Posted 9/14/05 11:51 AM |
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Redhead
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Re: Spinoff - Should convicted Rapists be Castrated??
Posted by Lilith
I totally understand why people are pro-capital punishment. Its just not my school of thought.
I see it more the way Lisa does, I'd hate to be the innocent that suffered (although castration wouldn't affect me ). I'd rather see a guilty man free than an innocent man in jail, but that's my bleeding heart and thankfully I have not (nor have my close friends or family) been in a situation that might change this view point.
i see your point.....which is why imo this kind of measure shouldn't be used on a first time offender...And i think the probability of a wrongful conviction is HIGH in rape cases....
A repeat offender is another story in my opinion though! I highly doubt someone convicted of this 2-3 times is innocent
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| Posted 9/14/05 11:54 AM |
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Re: Spinoff - Should convicted Rapists be Castrated??
Posted by unbelievable
I see your point as far as being innocent but how would you get into that position ? Why would you have been a suspect?
because someone falsly accuses you - there have been plenty of intsnaces where rape cases have been disproven or the women changes her story. Its a hard thing to prove, particularly in date rape cases.
(onbviously not as hard to prove for the serial rapist caught in the act)
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| Posted 9/14/05 11:56 AM |
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~Colleen~
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Re: Spinoff - Should convicted Rapists be Castrated??
Posted by -Lisa-
I'd say no, not because they don't deserve it, but what about those wrongly convicted?
Innocent people have been convicted of rape charges, only to later be released and proven innocent.
That's the same reason (or rather, one of the reasons why) I'm not for the death penalty either.
I also agree with Shelly - cutting off their wanker isn't going to stop them from raping since sex isn't what drives these "people" to rape. I don't think it would be a deterrent either...seeing as the death penalty hasn't deterred murderers in those states that have the DP.
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| Posted 9/14/05 11:57 AM |
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Redhead
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Re: Spinoff - Should convicted Rapists be Castrated??
Posted by -Lisa-
Posted by unbelievable
I see your point as far as being innocent but how would you get into that position ? Why would you have been a suspect?
because someone falsly accuses you - there have been plenty of intsnaces where rape cases have been disproven or the women changes her story. Its a hard thing to prove, particularly in date rape cases.
(onbviously not as hard to prove for the serial rapist caught in the act)
true....and i agree
BUT then why not for the repeat offenders?
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| Posted 9/14/05 11:58 AM |
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baghag
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Re: Spinoff - Should convicted Rapists be Castrated??
Posted by Colleen9304
I don't think it would be a deterrent either...seeing as the death penalty hasn't deterred murderers in those states that have the DP.
I think the death penalty would be more effective as a deterrent if it were done more often. Most of the prisoners wait in prison for ages while appeals and all legal avenues are exhausted.
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| Posted 9/14/05 12:04 PM |
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~Colleen~
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Re: Spinoff - Should convicted Rapists be Castrated??
Posted by baghag
I think the death penalty would be more effective as a deterrent if it were done more often. Most of the prisoners wait in prison for ages while appeals and all legal avenues are exhausted.
And all too often, we hear stories of people who sat on death row for years...only to be found innocent.
I think people who murder, rape, etc - are wired differently thank those of us who can rationally understand the law. Therefore, I don't see how the DP or castration - or any other for of "eye for an eye" - could be processed by a perpetrator and understood to be a deterrent.
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| Posted 9/14/05 12:07 PM |
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~Colleen~
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Re: Spinoff - Should convicted Rapists be Castrated??
Posted by unbelievable
Less crime back then ...
Less crime? In the BARBARIAN times? Isn't that an oxymoron to the time period? 
IF there was less crime - it was only b/c there were far less people.
As a historical time period, barbarians are only just slightly above savages...yet still lacking social graces that would prevent them from committing such "barbaric" acts.
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| Posted 9/14/05 12:11 PM |
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Lichi
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Re: Spinoff - Should convicted Rapists be Castrated??
Posted by unbelievablePosted by RedheadPosted by Lichi
Should theives have their hands cut off?I voted no.
Do i think murderers should have their hands chopped off......YES
So do I ...
That's a different story! lol 
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| Posted 9/14/05 12:12 PM |
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baghag
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Re: Spinoff - Should convicted Rapists be Castrated??
Posted by Colleen9304
Posted by baghag
I think the death penalty would be more effective as a deterrent if it were done more often. Most of the prisoners wait in prison for ages while appeals and all legal avenues are exhausted.
And all too often, we hear stories of people who sat on death row for years...only to be found innocent.
I think people who murder, rape, etc - are wired differently thank those of us who can rationally understand the law. Therefore, I don't see how the DP or castration - or any other for of "eye for an eye" - could be processed by a perpetrator and understood to be a deterrent.
I know...I feel very bad for those people whose lived are wasted. I haven't decided one way or the other if I support the DP or not.
That is a really interesting thought- that they are wired differently than we are. We need a thoughtful looking smiley here.
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| Posted 9/14/05 12:12 PM |
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Redhead
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Re: Spinoff - Should convicted Rapists be Castrated??
Posted by Colleen9304
Posted by baghag
I think the death penalty would be more effective as a deterrent if it were done more often. Most of the prisoners wait in prison for ages while appeals and all legal avenues are exhausted.
And all too often, we hear stories of people who sat on death row for years...only to be found innocent.
I think people who murder, rape, etc - are wired differently thank those of us who can rationally understand the law. Therefore, I don't see how the DP or castration - or any other for of "eye for an eye" - could be processed by a perpetrator and understood to be a deterrent.
sad enough....these types of people
psychopaths/sociopaths...
do understand right from wrong and do usaully FEAR harm to themselves....
Do i think it would stop one of them from commiting a heinous crime no....
Do i think it helps the family of their victims....YES.
ETA...and i just think they deserve it
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~Colleen~
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Re: Spinoff - Should convicted Rapists be Castrated??
I understand that they know right from wrong - I'm having a hard time articulating what I mean...b/c the way I wrote it sounds like I'm making excuses for people who rape and murder. I'm definitely not.
Most of us can process right from wrong. A lot of us express anger and even act on it. There's just something that takes a murderer and rapist a little further from the rest of us...and I'm not sure what it is. Furthermore, I'm not sure living in an 'eye for an eye' society will teach anyone...
I also can't imagine the parents of a murder victim finding peace in knowing their child's murder, was killed. Their child is still gone. Their life is still forever changed.
I think laws wrt rape, need to be changed. A convicted rapist getting a few months in prison or maybe a couple of years...while a small time pot dealer gets 10-life? That's a huge disconnect for me.
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| Posted 9/14/05 12:18 PM |
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Ambersmom
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Re: Spinoff - Should convicted Rapists be Castrated??
Posted by Redhead
Posted by MrsTC
Posted by unbelievable
Posted by MrsERod
Posted by MrsTC
no....i think that is inhumane and barbaric.
eta- i KNOW what they did is awful but castration seems extreme.
so is raping innocent victims....i know you said you realize the crime is awful.....
but let the punishment fit the crime...thats my opinion.
I agree
Barbaric Crimes deserve Barbaric punishments !
but this isn't the dark ages!!!!
NO it isn't...and chemical castration is something law makers are seriously considering for pedofiles.....
What's a chemical castration, Red?
It makes me sick when I hear/see these ba$tards that molest children. The hell with castration, public execution is the way to go with these monsters!!
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| Posted 9/14/05 12:19 PM |
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Redhead
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Re: Spinoff - Should convicted Rapists be Castrated??
Posted by Colleen9304
I understand that they know right from wrong - I'm having a hard time articulating what I mean...b/c the way I wrote it sounds like I'm making excuses for people who rape and murder. I'm definitely not.
Most of us can process right from wrong. A lot of us express anger and even act on it. There's just something that takes a murderer and rapist a little further from the rest of us...and I'm not sure what it is. Furthermore, I'm not sure living in an 'eye for an eye' society will teach anyone...
I also can't imagine the parents of a murder victim finding peace in knowing their child's murder, was killed. Their child is still gone. Their life is still forever changed.
I think laws wrt rape, need to be changed. A convicted rapist getting a few months in prison or maybe a couple of years...while a small time pot dealer gets 10-life? That's a huge disconnect for me.
well then i agree to disagree...
because i can only imagine what a person feels like after finding out their loved one was murdered...And for me that would be to kill the *******..Regardless of whether my loved one wasn't coming back
As far as teaching an eye for an eye....well i guess i agree with it....
It is the same to me as "do unto others as you would like done to you"
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