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Re: See what supporters of Obama list as his legislative accomplishments
not at all surprised - he has experience doing what exactly? 
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Re: See what supporters of Obama list as his legislative accomplishments
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Uch I cant run for President. I cannot take Dramamine for the eleventy billion plane rides Id have to take. Dammit!
I nominate Phyl!
Phyl for President! Phyl for President! 
Lord help us if I'm the Pres!! Free beverages and food for all!
You and Don can be co-presidents. Change the Bald Eagle to the Azzhorse and you got my vote!
I promise to change the Bald Eagle to the Azzhorse if elected!........
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Re: See what supporters of Obama list as his legislative accomplishments
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Uch I cant run for President. I cannot take Dramamine for the eleventy billion plane rides Id have to take. Dammit!
I nominate Phyl!
Phyl for President! Phyl for President!
Lord help us if I'm the Pres!! Free beverages and food for all!
that's reason enough for me 
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Re: See what supporters of Obama list as his legislative accomplishments
where are the videos of the McCain supporters listing his accomplishments?  Fact is, most of America is not well-versed in the legislative accomplishments of our candidates. Does this speak to Obama's past, or the ignorance of the American public?
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Re: See what supporters of Obama list as his legislative accomplishments
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where are the videos of the McCain supporters listing his accomplishments? Fact is, most of America is not well-versed in the legislative accomplishments of our candidates. Does this speak to Obama's past, or the ignorance of the American public?
that 1st video (w/Chris Matthews) is a Senator
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Re: See what supporters of Obama list as his legislative accomplishments
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where are the videos of the McCain supporters listing his accomplishments? Fact is, most of America is not well-versed in the legislative accomplishments of our candidates. Does this speak to Obama's past, or the ignorance of the American public?
that 1st video (w/Chris Matthews) is a Senator
I didn't even bother watching. But to me that says more about the Senator he interviewed than Obama himself. Did he question McCain supporters about his accomplishments? I'm not even an Obama supporter, but I don't think it's right to do this for one candidate and not the others.
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Re: See what supporters of Obama list as his legislative accomplishments
Posted by SweetestOfPeas
Posted by nov04libride
where are the videos of the McCain supporters listing his accomplishments? Fact is, most of America is not well-versed in the legislative accomplishments of our candidates. Does this speak to Obama's past, or the ignorance of the American public?
that 1st video (w/Chris Matthews) is a Senator
exactly
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Re: See what supporters of Obama list as his legislative accomplishments
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Posted by nov04libride
where are the videos of the McCain supporters listing his accomplishments? Fact is, most of America is not well-versed in the legislative accomplishments of our candidates. Does this speak to Obama's past, or the ignorance of the American public?
that 1st video (w/Chris Matthews) is a Senator
I didn't even bother watching. But to me that says more about the Senator he interviewed than Obama himself. Did he question McCain supporters about his accomplishments? I'm not even an Obama supporter, but I don't think it's right to do this for one candidate and not the others.
You would have to see it to understand. I am sure Mc Cain supporters could name some of his accomplishments b/c he HAS actual accomplishments that the general public know about.
Bottom line is Obama's supporters can't name any b/c he has NONE that are well known. It's not a fluke or just a small section of people who happened to be ignorant on what he has done. It was every single "supporter" including a senator, coming on two huge national tv programs, who were stammering and stuttering, speechless.
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Re: See what supporters of Obama list as his legislative accomplishments
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BTW, I am over 35 and I work well with the elderly also - maybe I should run.
Im at a loss.
But are you an inspirational speaker, like Jesse Jackson? (see video #2).
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Re: See what supporters of Obama list as his legislative accomplishments
it's the dumbing of America... people are actually getting on TV to support someone w/o knowing a single thing about him.
Nice.
ETA - but I bet if you asked them all about Britney Spears or American Idol - they would be able to talk for hours.
Its sad
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Re: See what supporters of Obama list as his legislative accomplishments
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BTW, I am over 35 and I work well with the elderly also - maybe I should run.
Im at a loss.
But are you an inspirational speaker, like Jesse Jackson? (see video #2).
You wanna see JESSE at his finest? Check THIS out:
JESSE
(Bad quality of video, but you get the point)
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Re: See what supporters of Obama list as his legislative accomplishments
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ETA - but I bet if you asked them all about Britney Spears or American Idol - they would be able to talk for hours.
Its sad
So true!
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Re: See what supporters of Obama list as his legislative accomplishments
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Posted by SweetestOfPeas
Posted by nov04libride
where are the videos of the McCain supporters listing his accomplishments? Fact is, most of America is not well-versed in the legislative accomplishments of our candidates. Does this speak to Obama's past, or the ignorance of the American public?
that 1st video (w/Chris Matthews) is a Senator
exactly
That first video is of a STATE senator from Texas. Not a US senator. Regardless, it is still sad and it makes HIM look dumb. The second video is of supporters off the street. Just because they are uneducated about Obama's voting record does not mean that he doesn't have one, or a good one at that.
Those who are interested in some FACTS about Obama's record, click here. It is long, but I think it's worthwhile to read through.
And I am an Obama supporter.
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Re: See what supporters of Obama list as his legislative accomplishments
Posted by dediko
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Obama representative cannot even name ONE of Obama's accomplishments in a TV interview w/ Chris Matthews. Unbelievable.
Interview w/ Chris Matthews
Hannity and Colmes video of Obama supporters who cannot name one accomplishment
Too many people are jumping on the Obama hype train when they really don't even know anything about him. They just are buying into the hype and assuming he will be better/different b/c he isn't the usual "white, older" candidate. Speaking well is great, and being inspirational is great also, but being a president is about more than these two things.
These people all look ridiculous to not know one thing to say about the candidate they are standing behind on national tv.
Thank you , you are so correct about him and his supporters, ITA, and the videos, omg what's more embarrassing than that. They have no idea who he is, really.
ITA. And I am glad you posted this. I ask his supporters why they like him. They say "Because he will bring change" I ask how.....they always
It amazes me. He has the best PR campaign ever. Celebs are backing him...but why? Do they have a clue what he is really going to do or is he just going to give us 4 years of living in a big spin?
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SweetestOfPeas
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Re: See what supporters of Obama list as his legislative accomplishments
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Posted by dediko
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Posted by nov04libride
where are the videos of the McCain supporters listing his accomplishments? Fact is, most of America is not well-versed in the legislative accomplishments of our candidates. Does this speak to Obama's past, or the ignorance of the American public?
that 1st video (w/Chris Matthews) is a Senator
exactly
That first video is of a STATE senator from Texas. Not a US senator. Regardless, it is still sad and it makes HIM look dumb. The second video is of supporters off the street. Just because they are uneducated about Obama's voting record does not mean that he doesn't have one, or a good one at that.
Those who are interested in some FACTS about Obama's record, click here. It is long, but I think it's worthwhile to read through.
And I am an Obama supporter.
it doesn't make anyone look dumb. no one can name an accomplishment of his b/c he doesn't have one!
a voting record is not an "accomplishment"
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Goobster
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Re: See what supporters of Obama list as his legislative accomplishments
Posted by SweetestOfPeas
Posted by Chai77
Posted by dediko
Posted by SweetestOfPeas
Posted by nov04libride
where are the videos of the McCain supporters listing his accomplishments? Fact is, most of America is not well-versed in the legislative accomplishments of our candidates. Does this speak to Obama's past, or the ignorance of the American public?
that 1st video (w/Chris Matthews) is a Senator
exactly
That first video is of a STATE senator from Texas. Not a US senator. Regardless, it is still sad and it makes HIM look dumb. The second video is of supporters off the street. Just because they are uneducated about Obama's voting record does not mean that he doesn't have one, or a good one at that.
Those who are interested in some FACTS about Obama's record, click here. It is long, but I think it's worthwhile to read through.
And I am an Obama supporter.
it doesn't make anyone look dumb. no one can name an accomplishment of his b/c he doesn't have one!
a voting record is not an "accomplishment"
And neither is an "attribute" such as he is well spoken, or inspirational.
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Re: See what supporters of Obama list as his legislative accomplishments
Posted by nov04libride
where are the videos of the McCain supporters listing his accomplishments? Fact is, most of America is not well-versed in the legislative accomplishments of our candidates. Does this speak to Obama's past, or the ignorance of the American public?
This is a good point. I think for the most part the public doesn't know anything about the candidates. They are voting based on hearsay and gossip.
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Ophelia
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Re: See what supporters of Obama list as his legislative accomplishments
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Posted by nov04libride
where are the videos of the McCain supporters listing his accomplishments? Fact is, most of America is not well-versed in the legislative accomplishments of our candidates. Does this speak to Obama's past, or the ignorance of the American public?
that 1st video (w/Chris Matthews) is a Senator
I didn't even bother watching. But to me that says more about the Senator he interviewed than Obama himself. Did he question McCain supporters about his accomplishments? I'm not even an Obama supporter, but I don't think it's right to do this for one candidate and not the others.
i agree with this.
it's not Obama's fault...or anyone elses that we are a country of selectively ignorant people.
actually, most people are followers. they want other people making decisions, telling them to a certain extent what to do...it's easier. so it doesn't surprise me ONE bit.
how do you think GWB got elected?
ETA: a voting record is VERY important b/c VOTES are how things GET done in this country. NO politician goes out and "does" things. they lobby for causes hopefully near and dear to those of their constituents. they vote in the Senate for those and otehr causes, as well as those that keep this country "running"
I am interested to know what John McCain has done? or Hilary Clinton...what have they gone out and done?
(btw, I am a clinton supporter
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Re: See what supporters of Obama list as his legislative accomplishments
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Posted by nov04libride
where are the videos of the McCain supporters listing his accomplishments? Fact is, most of America is not well-versed in the legislative accomplishments of our candidates. Does this speak to Obama's past, or the ignorance of the American public?
that 1st video (w/Chris Matthews) is a Senator
I didn't even bother watching. But to me that says more about the Senator he interviewed than Obama himself. Did he question McCain supporters about his accomplishments? I'm not even an Obama supporter, but I don't think it's right to do this for one candidate and not the others.
i agree with this.
it's not Obama's fault...or anyone elses that we are a country of selectively ignorant people.
actually, most people are followers. they want other people making decisions, telling them to a certain extent what to do...it's easier. so it doesn't surprise me ONE bit.
how do you think GWB got elected?
ETA: a voting record is VERY important b/c VOTES are how things GET done in this country. NO politician goes out and "does" things. they lobby for causes hopefully near and dear to those of their constituents. they vote in the Senate for those and otehr causes, as well as those that keep this country "running"
I am interested to know what John McCain has done? or Hilary Clinton...what have they gone out and done?
(btw, I am a clinton supporter
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Let's stick with the topic of what OBAMA has done. Instead of flipping it back to McCain or Clinton, why not list things Obama has done? Why can't anyone DO THAT? Just do that, and then your point is made w/o dragging Hill or McCain into it. To flip this arguement to the other candidates to me is a cop out and avoidance of the point here, and that is.... why can't anyone list what Obama has done?
Me personally, I am not going to list what McCain or Clinton has done. I am not the one going on national tv programs saying vote for Hillary or McCain. I want people who support Obama to come on this thread and LIST what he has accomplished in legislature.
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Re: See what supporters of Obama list as his legislative accomplishments
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Posted by Ophelia
Posted by nov04libride
Posted by SweetestOfPeas
Posted by nov04libride
where are the videos of the McCain supporters listing his accomplishments? Fact is, most of America is not well-versed in the legislative accomplishments of our candidates. Does this speak to Obama's past, or the ignorance of the American public?
that 1st video (w/Chris Matthews) is a Senator
I didn't even bother watching. But to me that says more about the Senator he interviewed than Obama himself. Did he question McCain supporters about his accomplishments? I'm not even an Obama supporter, but I don't think it's right to do this for one candidate and not the others.
i agree with this.
it's not Obama's fault...or anyone elses that we are a country of selectively ignorant people.
actually, most people are followers. they want other people making decisions, telling them to a certain extent what to do...it's easier. so it doesn't surprise me ONE bit.
how do you think GWB got elected?
ETA: a voting record is VERY important b/c VOTES are how things GET done in this country. NO politician goes out and "does" things. they lobby for causes hopefully near and dear to those of their constituents. they vote in the Senate for those and otehr causes, as well as those that keep this country "running"
I am interested to know what John McCain has done? or Hilary Clinton...what have they gone out and done?
(btw, I am a clinton supporter
)
Let's stick with the topic of what OBAMA has done. Instead of flipping it back to McCain or Clinton, why not list things Obama has done? Why can't anyone DO THAT? Just do that, and then your point is made w/o dragging Hill or McCain into it.
B/c what Obama has "done" isn't the point of this thread either.
the point of THIS particular thread it seemed to me from the content of the videos and your outrage, is that people are voting for Obama without knowing his record....which I am sure is the same for ALL the candidates for MANY MANY people on either of the three bandwagons.
my question was rhetorical. I am sorry you didn't sense that. I was making a point with it...which I feel I was successful at.
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Re: See what supporters of Obama list as his legislative accomplishments
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Let's stick with the topic of what OBAMA has done. Instead of flipping it back to McCain or Clinton, why not list things Obama has done? Why can't anyone DO THAT? Just do that, and then your point is made w/o dragging Hill or McCain into it. To flip this arguement to the other candidates to me is a cop out and avoidance of the point here, and that is.... why can't anyone list what Obama has done?
Me personally, I am not going to list what McCain or Clinton has done. I am not the one going on national tv programs saying vote for Hillary or McCain. I want people who support Obama to come on this thread and LIST what he has accomplished in legislature.
Seems to me this was meant to Obama-bash, but it says more to me about Chris Matthews than it does about Obama. I found this on a site, and I do agree with it:
Last night, Texas State Senator Kirk Watson, an Obama supporter, was embarrassed on national TV when he couldn't name any of Obama's legislative achievements. (He wrote what I think is a pretty decent and disarming account of it here.) David Kurtz, for whom I normally have enormous respect, writes:
I suspect this is a bit of a Rorschach test. Depending on your perspective, it's proof that Obama is a lightweight, just goes to show what a gasbag Matthews is, or appeals to the same voyeuristic instinct that makes you slow down and gawk at a car accident."
I think it's only a Rorschach test for people who don't bother to find whether or not Obama actually has any actual legislative achievements. If he does, then of course this just shows that this one supporter didn't know what they are. If he doesn't, it might show something more, e.g. that Obama is a lightweight. As it happens, Obama does have substantive legislative achievements.
Chris Matthews, by contrast, is paid large sums of money to provide political commentary and insight. I assume he has research assistants at his disposal. He could have done this work a lot more easily than I did. But he didn't. He was more interested in gotcha moments than in actually enlightening the American people.
So here's a challenge for Chris Matthews, or anyone else in the media who wants to take it up. Go over Clinton and Obama's actual legislative records. Find the genuine legislative accomplishments that each has to his or her name. Report to the American people on what you find. Until you do, don't accept statements from either side about who has substance and who does not, or who traffics in "speeches" and who offers "solutions". That's lazy, unprofessional, and a disservice to your audience. "
To sum up my favorite reforms (though not an Obama supporter):
* Ethics Reform: Obama was the Senate's point person on ethics reform, and sponsored or co-sponsored the bills that made up what the Washington Post called "the strongest ethics legislation to emerge from Congress yet." I'm also a fan of this bill, which I think of as the Journalists, Bloggers, and Citizens' Muckraking Empowerment Act: it creates a searchable database of recipients of federal grants and contracts.
* The Lugar-Obama initiative to strengthen the Nunn-Luger framework for securing loose nukes, and to extend it to securing and destroying stockpiles of conventional arms. (For instance, shoulder-fired missiles that could be used against passenger airlines, fired at our forces, or used to make any number of ongoing conflicts more deadly.)
* Various bills concerning the response to Hurricane Katrina, including an amendment putting strict limits on the use of no-bid contracts after disasters, requiring planning for the evacuation of people with special needs and senior citizens, creating a National Emergency Family Locator System, etc.
There are also a lot of good bills he worked
Legislation sponsored (not counting those that were co-sponsored)
by Obama that became law:
109th Congress, Obama:
S.2125 : A bill to promote relief, security, and democracy in the Democratic Republic of the Congo.Sponsor: Sen Obama, Barack [IL] (introduced 12/16/2005) Latest Major Action: Became Public Law No: 109-456
S.3757 : A bill to designate the facility of the United States Postal Service located at 950 Missouri Avenue in East St. Louis, Illinois, as the "Katherine Dunham Post Office Building". Sponsor: Sen Obama, Barack [IL] (introduced 7/27/2006) Note: For further action, see H.R.5929, which became Public Law 109-333 on 10/12/2006.
110th Congress, Obama: (8 amendments)
S.AMDT.41 to S.1 To require lobbyists to disclose the candidates, leadership PACs, or political parties for whom they collect or arrange contributions, and the aggregate amount of the contributions collected or arranged. Sponsor: Sen Obama, Barack [IL] (introduced 1/11/2007) Cosponsors (1) Latest Major Action: 1/18/2007 Senate amendment agreed to. Status: Amendment SA 41 agreed to in Senate by Unanimous Consent.
S.AMDT.524 to S.CON.RES.21 To provide $100 million for the Summer Term Education Program supporting summer learning opportunities for low-income students in the early grades to lessen summer learning losses that contribute to the achievement gaps separating low-income students from their middle-class peers. Sponsor: Sen Obama, Barack [IL] (introduced 3/21/2007) Cosponsors (None) Latest Major Action: 3/23/2007 Senate amendment agreed to. Status: Amendment SA 524 agreed to in Senate by Unanimous Consent.
S.AMDT.599 to S.CON.RES.21 To add $200 million for Function 270 (Energy) for the demonstration and monitoring of carbon capture and sequestration technology by the Department of Energy. Sponsor: Sen Obama, Barack [IL] (introduced 3/22/2007) Cosponsors (4) Latest Major Action: 3/23/2007 Senate amendment agreed to. Status: Amendment SA 599 agreed to in Senate by Unanimous Consent.
S.AMDT.905 to S.761 To require the Director of Mathematics, Science, and Engineering Education to establish a program to recruit and provide mentors for women and underrepresented minorities who are interested in careers in mathematics, science, and engineering. Sponsor: Sen Obama, Barack [IL] (introduced 4/23/2007) Cosponsors (None) Latest Major Action: 4/25/2007 Senate amendment agreed to. Status: Amendment SA 905 as modified agreed to in Senate by Unanimous Consent.
S.AMDT.923 to S.761 To expand the pipeline of individuals entering the science, technology, engineering, and mathematics fields to support United States innovation and competitiveness. Sponsor: Sen Obama, Barack [IL] (introduced 4/24/2007) Cosponsors (None) Latest Major Action: 4/25/2007 Senate amendment agreed to. Status: Amendment SA 923 as modified agreed to in Senate by Unanimous Consent.
S.AMDT.924 to S.761 To establish summer term education programs. Sponsor: Sen Obama, Barack [IL] (introduced 4/24/2007) Cosponsors (1) Latest Major Action: 4/25/2007 Senate amendment agreed to. Status: Amendment SA 924 as modified agreed to in Senate by Unanimous Consent.
S.AMDT.2519 to H.R.2638 To provide that one of the funds appropriated or otherwise made available by this Act may be used to enter into a contract in an amount greater than $5 million or to award a grant in excess of such amount unless the prospective contractor or grantee certifies in writing to the agency awarding the contract or grant that the contractor or grantee owes no past due Federal tax liability. Sponsor: Sen Obama, Barack [IL] (introduced 7/26/2007) Cosponsors (3) Latest Major Action: 7/26/2007 Senate amendment agreed to. Status: Amendment SA 2519 agreed to in Senate by Unanimous Consent.
S.AMDT.2588 to H.R.976 To provide certain employment protections for family members who are caring for members of the Armed Forces recovering from illnesses and injuries incurred on active duty. Sponsor: Sen Obama, Barack [IL] (introduced 7/31/2007) Cosponsors (8) Latest Major Action: 8/2/2007 Senate amendment agreed to. Status: Amendment SA 2588 agreed to in Senate by Unanimous Consent.
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Re: See what supporters of Obama list as his legislative accomplishments
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B/c what Obama has "done" isn't the point of this thread either.
the point of THIS particular thread it seemed to me from the content of the videos and your outrage, is that people are voting for Obama without knowing his record....which I am sure is the same for ALL the candidates for MANY MANY people on either of the three bandwagons.
my question was rhetorical. I am sorry you didn't sense that. I was making a point with it...which I feel I was successful at.
I agree. And if the real question you had was "what has Obama done?", well, maybe anyone who is genuinely curious and doesn't merely want to bash should google his name to see for themselves his accomplishments, as Chris Matthews should have done.
I'm not even an Obama supporter, but I think it is ridiculous to sit around whining about the lack of accomplishments instead of finding out the real information and having a valid discussion on the merits of each candidate. And if you want to do that, and have a well-versed discussion of the backgrounds of the candidates, then it is very valid what McCain and Clinton have brought to the table.
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Re: See what supporters of Obama list as his legislative accomplishments
Posted by SweetestOfPeas
Posted by Chai77
Those who are interested in some FACTS about Obama's record, click here. It is long, but I think it's worthwhile to read through.
no one can name an accomplishment of his b/c he doesn't have one!
a voting record is not an "accomplishment"
The link above is actually not a voting record. It is a list of bills sponsored by Obama and includes a list of those successfully passed by Congress.
That's what senators do -- they sponsor bills. When a bill is passed it is rightfully counted as an accomplishment.
For anyone concerned that the link is pro-Obama propaganda, I urge you to look up the candidates' legislative accomplishments yourself at the Library of Congress.
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Re: See what supporters of Obama list as his legislative accomplishments
Posted by Ophelia
Posted by Goobster
Let's stick with the topic of what OBAMA has done. Instead of flipping it back to McCain or Clinton, why not list things Obama has done? Why can't anyone DO THAT? Just do that, and then your point is made w/o dragging Hill or McCain into it.
B/c what Obama has "done" isn't the point of this thread either.
the point of THIS particular thread it seemed to me from the content of the videos and your outrage, is that people are voting for Obama without knowing his record....which I am sure is the same for ALL the candidates for MANY MANY people on either of the three bandwagons.
my question was rhetorical. I am sorry you didn't sense that. I was making a point with it...which I feel I was successful at.
Yes, what Obama has done is the point of this thread. People are coming out of the woodwork, supporting this man on national tv, knowing they may be interviewed, but nothing Obama has done is obviously well known enough that even one minor legislative accomplishment could be mentioned by even one person. Is that entirely coincidence? The point of those videos is that there is a HUGE hype for Obama, more than ANY other candidate, and the simple reason is b/c people are jumping on the hype...
There is no hype train for McCain or Hillary. And there lies the difference. People are massively supporting this man simply b/c they are ASSUMING based on him being "different" than previous candidates that that difference equates a change. And that is the point.
Find me equal videos about McCain or Hill on Youtube...and then you may have a point. ETA- None of this is to say I am a supporter of Hill or McCain. I am not sure where I stand, but neither am I going around supporting their campaigns on national tv, nor would I.
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Re: See what supporters of Obama list as his legislative accomplishments
Some of Obama's successes from 2007 (these are bills he helped pass:
S.AMDT.1041 to S.1082 To improve the safety and efficacy of genetic tests.
S.AMDT.3073 to H.R.1585 To provide for transparency and accountability in military and security contracting.
S.AMDT.3078 to H.R.1585 Relating to administrative separations of members of the Armed Forces for personality disorder.
S.AMDT.41 to S.1 To require lobbyists to disclose the candidates, leadership PACs, or political parties for whom they collect or arrange contributions, and the aggregate amount of the contributions collected or arranged.
S.AMDT.524 to S.CON.RES.21 To provide $100 million for the Summer Term Education Program supporting summer learning opportunities for low-income students in the early grades to lessen summer learning losses that contribute to the achievement gaps separating low-income students from their middle-class peers.
S.AMDT.599 to S.CON.RES.21 To add $200 million for Function 270 (Energy) for the demonstration and monitoring of carbon capture and sequestration technology by the Department of Energy.
S.AMDT.905 to S.761 To require the Director of Mathematics, Science, and Engineering Education to establish a program to recruit and provide mentors for women and underrepresented minorities who are interested in careers in mathematics, science, and engineering.
S.AMDT.923 to S.761 To expand the pipeline of individuals entering the science, technology, engineering, and mathematics fields to support United States innovation and competitiveness.
S.AMDT.924 to S.761 To establish summer term education programs.
S.AMDT.2519 to H.R.2638 To provide that one of the funds appropriated or otherwise made available by this Act may be used to enter into a contract in an amount greater than $5 million or to award a grant in excess of such amount unless the prospective contractor or grantee certifies in writing to the agency awarding the contract or grant that the contractor or grantee owes no past due Federal tax liability.
S.AMDT.2588 to H.R.976 To provide certain employment protections for family members who are caring for members of the Armed Forces recovering from illnesses and injuries incurred on active duty.
S.AMDT.2658 to H.R.2642 To provide that none of the funds appropriated or otherwise made available by this Act may be used to enter into a contract in an amount greater than $5,000,000 or to award a grant in excess of such amount unless the prospective contractor or grantee makes certain certifications regarding Federal tax liability.
S.AMDT.2692 to H.R.2764 To require a comprehensive nuclear threat reduction and security plan.
S.AMDT.2799 to H.R.3074 To provide that none of the funds appropriated or otherwise made available by this Act may be used to enter into a contract in an amount greater than $5,000,000 or to award a grant in excess of such amount unless the prospective contractor or grantee makes certain certifications regarding Federal tax liability.
S.AMDT.3137 to H.R.3222 To provide that none of the funds appropriated or otherwise made available by this Act may be used to enter into a contract in an amount greater than $5,000,000 or to award a grant in excess of such amount unless the prospective contractor or grantee makes certain certifications regarding Federal tax liability.
S.AMDT.3234 to H.R.3093 To provide that none of the funds appropriated or otherwise made available by this Act may be used to enter into a contract in an amount greater than $5,000,000 or to award a grant in excess of such amount unless the prospective contractor or grantee makes certain certifications regarding Federal tax liability.
S.AMDT.3331 to H.R.3043 To provide that none of the funds appropriated or otherwise made available by this Act may be used to enter into a contract in an amount greater than $5,000,000 or to award a grant in excess of such amount unless the prospective contractor or grantee makes certain certifications regarding Federal tax liability.
Senate Resolutions Passed:
S.RES.133 : A resolution celebrating the life of Bishop Gilbert Earl Patterson.
S.RES.268 : A resolution designating July 12, 2007, as "National Summer Learning Day".
For more information:
The Library of Congress
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